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Last thread was deleted, not archived. Why?

I can't imagine it would be deleted for "off topic" on /x/ and this isn't meant to be a "TROLL LOL" or some psyop (for the record, I believe pizzagate is REAL! JQ is valid).

There are real doubts in my mind the heliocentric theory is wrong in many ways and this thread is meant to express these doubts.

You think flat earth is dumb? Its so easy to prove flat earth isn't real? PROVE IT!
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NASA/EESA make BILLIONS each year, and they can't produce real pictures/footage of earth?

Why fake something that shouldn't require being faked at all?

WHERE ARE RAW, NATURAL, NON-CGI/FISHEYE LENS SHOTS OF EARTH?
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NASA ARTIST ROBERT SIMMON

https://youtu.be/fFBAznZwqVg?t=196
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>>19498504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM
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The fact that people are KNOWINGLY using fisheye lens and spending tons on CGI to procure an artificial curve on the earth speaks volumes.

If the earth has the correct curvature we're told, why give flat earthers any ammo by using a fisheye lens or cgi replica AT ALL??

The easiest way to end this argument is to have a REAL UNEDITED pic of earth!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bns4R5ZsVUw
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>>19498513

How do satellites/ISS not fucking melt in the thermosphere at 1500+ degress??

Where are the REAL pictures of satellites? How come you never see the THOUSANDS of satellites in any pictures/footage of earth in orbit?

https://youtu.be/N09ItYiSkj4
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Its totally possible the earth is still round, but the curvature isn't correct.

The math is 8(miles squared)
or
8in.(distance in miles^2)

Which means to take the square root of the distance traveled in miles and then multiply that figure by eight inches.

So for example, if you traveled one mile, the formula would look something like this;

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature

And for the first ten miles traveled of curvature in inches…

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature
8(2×2) = 32 Inches of total curvature
8(3×3) = 72 Inches of total curvature
8(4×4) = 128 Inches of total curvature
8(5×5) = 200 Inches of total curvature
8(6×6) = 288 Inches of total curvature
8(7×7) = 392 Inches of total curvature
8(8×8) = 512 Inches of total curvature
8(9×9) = 648 Inches of total curvature
8(10×10) = 800 Inches of total curvature


Yet -- we cannot find that curve based on the current math.
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Webcam footage, sun distance seen 3:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2k


Pay attention to the lack of curvature shown had extreme height, also see the small and local hotspot below the sun.

IF the sun is 93 million miles away and HUGE, why is the hotspot so SMALL???
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>>19498527
How small do you think the earth is, you're not gonna see all of them and theyre probably small
And they make them out of stuff with higher than 1500 melting point I guess? It's just rocket science, Its not that complicated
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Oh actauly this si a perfect time to ask, what happens if you go to the edge of like the disc?
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>>19498496

does the earth orbit the sun?

is the earth even moving?
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>>19498547

Its not a disc. In this theory, the realm we exist on is a flat, stationary, endless plane and where the sun doesn't exist is just frozen ice.

The propaganda with the disc and water falling off is made to make this idea seem stupid. You go south in any direction and you reach the south pole correct? Well not because its an island, but because its a giant ice wall surrounding the suns local orbit about 3k miles up.
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>>19498555

According to NASA, no. There is no movement in the earth, and the sun is smaller and closer than what we're told.

The sun and moon orbit above us, which is why were can see them at the same time in the sky sometimes.
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>>19498564
But
What happens if you go over it
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>>19498555
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>>19498571
Great question, I'm glad you asked.

Admiral Byrd was the first man to fly over the north AND south pole.
>Admiral Richard Byrd said theres more land to be discovered outside of south pole
>Byrd says antartica (south pole) is full of uranium and mountains of coal that could "generate enough energy for the entire earth for centuries"
>Byrd says theres a continent as big as america beyond the south pole from south america

"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the southpole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

This map was found that shows numerous lands BEYOND the arctic circle. Assuming this is true and created CENTURIES ago, it has a perfect flat earth map with the sun season-rings and shows 33 new lands to be discovered.
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>>19498576

mmmhmm, and what season was that photo taken in? what season and time of year is that picture representing?
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>>19498587

People like to ask "why would they hide the shape of earth? What would they gain?"

Why do we have global conflict AT ALL???

If instead of planets, we have islands beyond the frozen barriers, this is HUGE!

Just look at the vast differences in eco systems around the world, like kangaroos in AUS. Different islands means new life!

New plants, new fungi, new minerals, new creatures, new foods, possible humanoids or preexisting highly advanced species (ie aliens or diety?)

NEW EVERYTHING!
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>>19498595
I have no idea what this pic represents.

How can you explain the Midnight Sun?

https://youtu.be/LjvtmzbEgm8

>During Arctic summer, from the 22nd to the 25th of June, at a high enough latitude and altitude, you can watch a phenomenon known as “the Midnight Sun” where the Sun stays continuously visible in the sky for 3 days straight! The “Midnight Sun” rises on the 22nd and for the next 72 hours never disappears from sight, slowly ascending and descending every 12 hours, showing 3 brilliant “sunsets” and “sunrises” without ever actually setting below the horizon. If the Earth were actually a spinning globe revolving around the Sun, the only place such a phenomenon as the Midnight Sun could be observed would be at the poles. Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight. To see the Sun for an entire revolution on a spinning globe at a point other than the poles, you would have to be looking through miles and miles of land and sea for part of the revolution! Anyone below the 89th parallel could never witness the Sun for 72 hours, 3 whole revolutions, straight because to do so would be to assume you are somehow seeing “through the globe” and to the Sun on the other side! Since such an assumption is ridiculous, and yet the Midnight Sun can clearly be seen as low as the 65 parallel, this is another absolute proof that Earth is the flat, stationary center of the universe.
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Timezones work perfectly on flat earth
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>>19498587

did anyone bother to read the article regarding this FAKE MAP!!!!!
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I need to figure out how to archive these threads before the next one gets deleted again...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_space_agencies
That's a lot of countries that dislike and hate each other all with their own space agencies, but somehow they all work together to lie about the earth's fucking shape?
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>>19498595
>>19498576

that would be summer, like summer fags posting flat earth threads
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Flat Earth is a psyop and you are willing recipients. Get smarter.
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>>19498615

Can you explain this? Your own image has the same problem
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>>19498624

jesus shit he thinks the earth orbits the sun every 24 hours...

THE EARTH ROTATES NUMB NUT, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE DAY AND NIGHT

THOSE REPRESENTATIONS ARE NOT 12:00 PM EVEN IF YOU PUT A SHITTY LABEL USING MS PAINT SAYING IT IS
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>ITT: people who don't understand physics
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>>19498624
Revolution vs rotation
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>>19498624
Holy shit
This can't be serious
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>>19498633
further, earths orbit aroudn the sun is not a Perfect circle, its an elliptical which further exacerbates the seasons
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You can see the sun set twice in the burn Khalifa, once on the ground floor and then again at the top. This would not be possible if the world was flat.
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>>19498607

with that said, if you loosers are going to reference that map you better explain to us the entire story about the schizo and the temple he found in japan, that in of itself deserves its own thread, not to mention this doctor Kobayashi and the newspaper itself which would be willign enough to publish sutcha story

criticize the source
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>>19498633
>jesus shit he thinks the earth orbits the sun every 24 hours...
Thats not what it says, learn2read.

"The sun makes a full rotation every 24 hours..."
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>>19498664
Source?
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>>19498671
Nope. The sun takes 24 days to rotate.
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>>19498671

i was going off of the visuals saying "12:00PM". again, highly deceptive graphic

granted now that i think of it, 12:00 pm what time zone, in each season poorly represented
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>>19498496
im in the navy. our navigational charts would be useless if the earth were flat. I can also see other ships go over the horizon which is about 12nm away when im standing on the flight deck.
We would have to be traveling in a curved line in order to travel east or west if the earth were flat.
Anyone that believes any of this flat earth bullshit should be chemically castrated. You fucking retards. also, this ISNT paranormal.
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>>19498671
>>19498624

lol I need to learn to write

"the ***Earth makes a full rotation every 24 hours"

Your bullshit is fucking with me, good job
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>>19498673
Not that guy, but here's a dude doing it with a drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-z7O7LddYs
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>>19498674
see >>19498682
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>>19498682

is this, dare I say, a flat earther civil war?

heliocentric vs ummm, earth centric orientation of the world?
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Why are other planets and stars quite visibly circular using telescopes if Earth is flat?
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>>19498680
>Paranormal: denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding.

I agree this SHOULD be within scientific understanding
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>>19498692
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>>19498684
Damn
How will flat tards ever recover from this?
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>>19498692
A good graphic from the last thread
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>>19498694
Explain to me why those things wouldn't work.
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>>19498692
Hard to say if they truly are round/spherical. They only data we have that supports a spherical shape is from CGI at NASA
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>>19498694
please, go out on a ship at night and sail way from light house, watch it dissappear, then come back in during the day and watch it appear on the horizon top down

we can actually test this which makes it better than the other shit posted here

also, what do you mean by "work"? please define that word
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>>19498707
t. i failed 8th grade geometry class and scaling shapes

are you even from the US?
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>>19498705
>>19498705

The curvature would fuck it up, it requires a flat surface to operate
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>>19498496
Be enlightened

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLI7WZZRJQ
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>>19498725
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>>19498576
>the equator is the hottest place on earth
Stopped caring right there
Tropics, fucking moron.
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>>19498723

>6 miles
>space elevator height towers

anon...

>*map is not to scale

granted, someone with some trig skills could tell the actual angle of that triangle, calculate the arc angle and length between those two lines, and probably tell you the size of that "earth" depicted in the picture
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>>19498707
You just conveniently ignore all the amateur astronomers that could easily come up with that data on their own. Just look up "planets seen from earth with telescope/camera" on youtube.

This is some disingenuous bullshit right here. This is why you flat earth fags get no credibility or respect.
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>>19498732
there you go again posting graphics that wre just proven to be deceptive
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>>19498732

what is "work"? what is not doing "work"?
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>>19498736
This is what we actually see
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>>19498744
>picks the smallest planet beside mercury to prove his point
>ignore the detail you can see in jupiter or saturn or the FUCKING MOON

Try harder
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>>19498742
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>>19498687
I've seen it. How do you explain lunar eclipses.
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>>19498673

I've seen it, it's indisputable
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>>19498753
>>19498753

see>>19498697
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>>19498697
>bought a p900
>doesn't know how to focus

good times
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>>19498744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdecDSzLYnE
Took me literally ten seconds to find
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actually retards
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>>19498759
see
>>19498760
Works both ways
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>>19498754

what time of year was this ocean picture taken?

does it line up with the presented time of year for the earths tilt relative to the sun >>19498615
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>>19498768
No, it only works well when you focus.

You do understand the difference between "zoom" and "focus," right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSqPbMoASM4
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>>19498772

not to mention oceans (and most bodies of water) heat up and cool off at a much slower rate then land, and are subject to currents, changing every year
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>>19498772
What you people are failing to realize is that it takes more than one day, or one week or one month, in order to heat up the ocean any significant amount.

The equator gets more sun than the tropics. Furthermore it's right in the doldrums, which means it gets little wind and doesn't mix compared to other parts of the ocean.

So the equator having the hottest waters is exactly what you expect on a globe earth.
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>>19498775
Stop moving the goddamn goalposts
You can clearly see the other planets are spherical on your own, so why are you changing the subject?
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>>19498496
Deleted because we have already overcome this ultimate retardation of a belief before the advent of any internet or other technological marvel
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>>19498785
it looks liek whoever made the graphic took a picture from one time of year, and just tilted it not knowing about earth axis relative to the sun during the time of the year, thinking they could just force their proof
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>>19498781
>>19498772
>>19498768


see>>19498600

How can you explain the Midnight Sun?

https://youtu.be/LjvtmzbEgm8

>During Arctic summer, from the 22nd to the 25th of June, at a high enough latitude and altitude, you can watch a phenomenon known as “the Midnight Sun” where the Sun stays continuously visible in the sky for 3 days straight! The “Midnight Sun” rises on the 22nd and for the next 72 hours never disappears from sight, slowly ascending and descending every 12 hours, showing 3 brilliant “sunsets” and “sunrises” without ever actually setting below the horizon. If the Earth were actually a spinning globe revolving around the Sun, the only place such a phenomenon as the Midnight Sun could be observed would be at the poles. Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight. To see the Sun for an entire revolution on a spinning globe at a point other than the poles, you would have to be looking through miles and miles of land and sea for part of the revolution! Anyone below the 89th parallel could never witness the Sun for 72 hours, 3 whole revolutions, straight because to do so would be to assume you are somehow seeing “through the globe” and to the Sun on the other side! Since such an assumption is ridiculous, and yet the Midnight Sun can clearly be seen as low as the 65 parallel, this is another absolute proof that Earth is the flat, stationary center of the universe.
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>>19498789
>implying science has never been wrong
>suggesting science is 100% correct today

Why censor something just because you think its incorrect?
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>>19498801
The earth is tilted. Same reason you can see a midnight sun in the south pole six months later.
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>>19498624
You are correct Anon. If the earth wouldmake a whole rotation every 24 hours then day and night would be switched. But we don't define a day based on th rotation of the earth. We define ourday based on the position of the sun above our heads - 12 pm will always have the sun at zenith.

A full rotation of the earth takes 23 h 56 m 4.0916 s. This is known as a Siderial Day and it behaves exactly like your picture.
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>>19498801
The earth tilts.
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>>19498801

the midnight sun is again a product of the earth axis being tilted towards or away from the sun during times of the year (years beign a measurement of the number of days it takes to orbit the sun, being broken down into the number of hours it takes the earth to spin 460 on its stationary axis)

see this>>19498615 and this>>19498595
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>>19498496
https://discord.gg/XXAEd6

flat earth discord, dedicated to general space fakery and comparison of the geocentric vs heliocentric models.
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>>19498807
>>19498812
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>>19498813
*360 degrees
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>>19498816

>its a cop out forcing the thread to be discarded instead of staying and arguing to visual and written evidence

im not joining your gay discord
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>>19498817
A) The sun isnt changing size, its just dimmer from diffusing light near the horizon.
B)The days are longer, in the summer. and they're shorter in the winter. Just like EVERYWHERE ELSE just more extreme.
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>>19498817
Exactly.

And the sun doesn't change size.
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>>19498595
this is damning and cool at the same time

time lapse/ long exposure overlay photography FTW
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>>19498835

Days are shorter in winter due to LONGER rotation (also explains longer shadows)

Vice versa for summer, shorter rotation
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>>19498843
>longer rotation
wat

are you saying time slows down and we experience time longer than 24 hours in the winter?
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>>19498843
That wouldn't explain shorter days, it would just make each day longer than 24 hours.
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>>19498843
I just fucking said that you goddamn idiot.

Fuck, i'm too stressed out for this shit.
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>>19498843
So the sun magically speeds up and slows down throughout the year?
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>>19498854
NO , its CLEARLY the earth rotates at faster and slower speeds, we just dont feel the acceleration and deceleration
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>>19498847
>>19498848
>>19498849
>>19498854
>>19498855
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>>19498843

you better distinguish between day as in 24 hours, and day as in the amount of time we have sunlight vs night where there is little or no sunlight (excluding temporary 24 hour phenomenons)
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>>19498871
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>>19498867

what is the scale of these graphs, what are they measuring, in units
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>>19498855
but that's not how it works. The different lengths of the day are due to the axial tilt. Also the reason summer and winter are switched on northern and southern hemisphere. There is no need for the earthto speed up and slow down in the "globe theory" as you lke to call it.
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>>19498871
When sun enters or leaves perspective, the light follows. See >>19498606
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>>19498873
Lightbulbs do light up the whole wall though
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>>19498873
we dont see 24 hour light except in the extreme north and south during certain postions of the earth orbit around the sun

what the fuck is this eve arguing?
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>>19498867
what does that even have to do with anything?
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>>19498884
>>19498888

Just ignore this followup I guess >>19498879
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>>19498879

umm, light is still there, the yellow part simply changes to orange.red because of light refraction in the atmosphere
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>>19498897
That wasnt a followup to the lightbulb thing at all what lol
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>>19498879
>>19498873
these things are just cool to look at

they are called Analemma's
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While i do not believe the earth is flat,
I still do not understand why people who believe the earth is a globe willingly go into flat earth threads amd fight tooth and nail for a belief that ultimately has zero effect in their lives.
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>>19498955
Its fun
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the earth is not flat you fucking doofuses
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>>19498969
>>19498985
No it isn't, you sheeps never consider the evidence and only belive what they told you.
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>>19498991
But it is fun...
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>>19498991
ignore Analemmas, sunlight and the stars at your peril
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Who gives a fuck? Round Earth/Flat Earth; people still gonna suck!!
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>>19498873

take the lightbulb off the ground and see how well it illuminates the entire wall

now apply that logic to the sun
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>>19498496
flat earthers should remove themselves from the gene pool .
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>>19499019
*off og the wall?

another example of a deceptive graphic, put tingthe "wall" on the ground
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If the earth ain't flat.
How do astrolabes work?
They are literally DESIGNED to work for a flat Earth model. And they actually work.
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>>19499051
>what is trigonometry
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>>19499055
Jewish tricks
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>>19499055
Trigonometry doesn't disprove flat Earth.
If anything it proves it.
Science!
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>>19499066
astrolabes do not disprove round earth or prove flat earth either

they are tools that work with angles and straight lines

>>19499058
was pythagoras a jew?
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>>19498571
you go back to the Berenstein Bear universe
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>>19498587
But Byrd also said the earth was hollow.
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I think those of us that understand that the earth is a sphere come to these threads because 1) flat earth is hilariously stupid 2) we find it annoying that people are so willfully ignorant as to find a way to "fight the establishment"

Also don't forget to include plate tectonics and seismic earth mapping as to why the earth is a globe. We can add in atmospheric convection cells that follow rotation as well. Coriolis effect, halo-saline cycle of the oceans, and magnostratigraphy are good evidence against flat earth as well.
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As an engineer. Who spent 5 years studying physics, this thread triggers me on levels I didn't even know I had
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As a geologist I think this entire thread is hilarious. Smoking weed and drinking alcohol to all this ridiculousness.
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>>19498496
gonna do an abbreviated version of a flat-earth-is-impossible proof i thought of a while back

gravity is real.
stuff goes "down" at an acceleration of c. 9.8 meters per second.
either the earth is a sphere and gravity functions or its a flat disc accelerating thru space at 9.8 m/s to make the illusion of a gravity-like downwards force. For this to be maintained, this accel. would need to be continual. which means that after 354.063277116 days (speed of light in meters per second / 9.8mps / 60 secs per min / 60 mins per hour / 24 hours per day) the disc earth would hit the speed of light and all the molecules making it up would sheer apart, losing all atomic integrety after reaching a speed impossible to exceed. I remember stuff from more than a year ago, the earth has yet to explode, therefore, the earth isnt flat.
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>>19499256
>gravity is proven therefore sphere earth

Gravity and relativity are theories, not proven. Why?
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>>19499256
>speeding faster than speed of light
>no way to track movement
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>>19499394
But they are proven.
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>>19499401
They are theories, correct? Theory of relativity? Theory of gravity?
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Don't listen to any of these shills. They're trying to cover up the fact that the earth is a cube.
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>>19499409
Germ theory. Color theory. Legal theory.

Words have different meanings in different contexts.

In this case:

theory- a body of principles related to one subject.

alternatively: a branch of science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice.
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>>19498496
probably because you faggots keep leaking out of your containment threads and spamming up the board
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>>19499409
Law of Gravitation
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>>19499409
Have you never been to science class in your life?
Youre joking right?
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>>19499092
True, and that was his only theory.
This is flatearther's cut edition.
Byrd stated that the Earth was pretty much an "empty globe"

I always saw Flat earther as a stupid decoy to avoid hollow earth tread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A

Full edition without cuts so without flat earth misconception of Byrd's speech.
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>>19498496
Chandler Wobble.
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>>19499442
>>19499450
>>19499452

Gravity was invented to explain why water sticks to ball.

Relativity was invented to explain why we can't feel the motion of traveling faster than the speed of sound.

They aren't proven, they aren't disproven either (cant replicate a giant ball with water spinning at 1000 mph)
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Just a real picture of earth, FLATTARDS BTFO LOL
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>>19498576
>Flat earthers actually believe this is evidence.
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This thread stinks of confirmation bias. Way to make the rest of /x/ look sane guys
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>>19498564

An Airship has the endurance to cross somewhere like that. We have had them since the 1930's, and probably long distance balloons in antiquity as well. I think the Moon is basically a balloon.
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this has to be a troll
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>>19498496
>You think flat earth is dumb? Its so easy to prove flat earth isn't real? PROVE IT!

look up to the sky. its all spheres... earth must be flat doe
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Read this book. It debunks the insane ideas behind the heliocentric model

https://archive.org/details/kingsdethronedhi00hickrich
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>>19500514
>Read
If globies could read they wouldn't need bill nye and black science man to tell them how to think
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>>19498496
>discrediting pizzagate with flat earth by association

Damn good plan CIA.
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>>19498684
This. How would flat earthers explain this ?
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How long are days in the southern hemisphere? How long are nights?

Actually, don't answer me, because you can't.
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>>19500797
Just ask someone who lives in the southern hemisphere? They will probably tell you it's more or less the same as it is in the northern.
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>>19500806
Right. (You answered so I already know you are not a flat earther) So if the sun is like a flashlight shining on a wall, then in the southern hemisphere the circle that would be the sun's path would be much larger. So the sun would have to go faster to keep the nights the right length, but this would shorten days, or it would go the right speed for days, but this would lengthen nights.
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Much love to all .The geocentrics have this one hands down good science will prevail . provable repeateble observable got a new telescope proof is in the puttin...
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>>19498520
I usually think all these threads are stupid but that pic is pretty interesting.
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>>19498496

We really need to purge you chimps.
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>>19498697

You legitimately deserve to die for being this stupid.
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>>19498744

>my shitty cell phone videos prove my mental illness is reality
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>>19500643

Considering how often you retarded chimps post eric dubay videos, you should probably just stop posting.
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So there's always one thing that never gets brought up in these threads.

Ok, let's say, hypothetically, that all the clear, demonstrable evidence of a round earth is false. Let's say the ancient Mesopotamians were right and the earth is a flat disk floating in the ocean with a vaulted sky firmament over it. Or whatever.

And let's say that NASA/the Jews/the Government/literally anyone who has a decent telescope and actually knows how to use it/anyone who has a drone and decides to fly it in the direction of the setting sun/any sailor/anyone who's flown overseas/anyone who's ever gone to the top of a tall hill or building/etc. secretly know this and are part of some massive conspiracy to cover up the Truth.

That begs the question: Why? What would be the point of this massive cover-up? Why would "They" (whoever "They" are) be so invested in the shape of the planet? How would it affect them or their secret global schemes or whatever one way or the other? What would be the point?

Because I mean, the amount of resources that would have to go into this cover-up would be unfathomable. Somehow magically making every single possible thing that would provide evidence one way or the other point toward a round earth, and not to mention the sheer number of people that would have to be involved in this cover-up or on their payroll. They would be gaining nothing, and it would probably be cheaper just to actually go around the planet and pay every single living person in the world to castrate themselves and become their slaves. The sheer impossible impracticality of this supposed NASA conspiracy never gets brought up.
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>>19501245
Because fuck you, it's god
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>>19498617
What do you know, maybe they are actual paid shills and they know it's a psyop...
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>>19498689
It's really "Americans who went to school" vs "Americans who didn't".
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>>19498680
Well, the idiocy of flatearthers is paranormal.
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>>19498707
ERATOSTHENES FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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>>19498786
Because Trump taught them that they can easily create their own convenient reality all while actually accusing the rest of the world of being "fake news".
All of this works well for people who have never been accepted in any university and resent that...
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>>19498789
Also deleted because probably there are some americans left who are tired of being the laughing stock of the whole world...
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>>19498806
Because some things in life ARE proven beyond any reasonable doubt, after centuries. Rediscussing those amounts to regression, not progress.
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>>19498955
Zero effect?
May I remind you that that other wacky cult called "Creationism" actually has managed to sneak their "curriculum" in some schools in the US?
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>>19499409
Imbecile. "Theory" does not mean "unproven idea".
There are proven theories and unproven ones... you guys have trouble believing the dictionary as well now..?
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>>19500287
Oh it is.
A troll on a psyop.
A trollop.
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>>19501398
Goddamn this country. Is it weird that I'm joining the military mostly so I can get the fuck out?
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>>19501411
>There are proven theories
ye it's called fact
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>>19498527
1. High Earth Orbit Satellites orbit at 35,786 km, at which range the pull of the earth equals the pull of the sun, so they stay in that range around the earth.

2. There are thousands of satellites, but they're somewhere over earth at any given point in time. That's like if you spread 5000 basketballs equally over the entire state of california, odds are you wouldn't be able to see one from the other.
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>>19501462
No, that's pretty much everyone in the militarys idea.
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>>19501462
There are other ways to get the fuck out.
You don't need to become a Halliburton private drone in order to travel...
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>>19501466
Lol, there's really no saving you guys...
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>>19501502
What if you're a poorfag though? I mean yeah, there's always college, but that's expensive unless you get the military to pay for it, and there's little guarantee that you'll actually be able to get a job when you finish, much less be able to permanently emigrate relatively soon, and won't just be trapped even harder by student debt.
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>>19498697
>bought a p900
>thinks it's the Keck telescope
Kek
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>>19498587
>as big as the U.S.
if you go in a straight line from the US and cross the south pole, wouldn't you be looking at africa/asia (something as big as the US) on the other side?
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>>19500514
>Read this book
I stopped reading after the epic blunder on p.12 and 13
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>>19498527
>melt in the thermosphere at 1500+ degress??
''temperature is proportional to the average kinetic energy of the random microscopic motions of the constituent microscopic particles, such as electrons, atoms, and molecules''

There very few molecules at 100 km altitude.
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>>19500514
>published in 1922
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>>19498570
If the earth is flat then why cant we make an accurate map that all landmasses are in the correct proportions?
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>>19498576
because the equator is exposed for the longest time.
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>>19498537
that's not how curvature works
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The main question that no one has yet to answer is; Why would anyone *care* about hiding the flat earth/spherical earth truth? What is there to gain from them saying the Earth is a sphere OR that the Earth is flat? Remember that the Earth was theorized to be round during the times of the Ancient Greeks, with Pythagoras concluding spherical Earth by observing the moon orbit. After him, Aristotle concluded the same result based on star constellations. Both of these men were extremely intelligent, and used common mathematics to conclude the same result based on different observations. Actually, past around 700AD, the idea of flat earth has been dismissed almost entirely. In a key time of exploration and discovery, why would the scholars/entire world either A) believe a false narrative, B) change the way we look at the Earth if it wasn't proven, C) have a reason to lie to the people about something as trivial as the shape of our planet (when they had no aspirations of ever actually viewing it from afar), or D) come up with the same results from multiple credible sources (using different methods) that the Earth is a/n sphere/ellipsoid? Most, if not all, of your conspiracies revolve around modern times, and you seem to happily forget about the fact that this has been believed and proven for over a century.
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>>19499018
big fuckin mood
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Alright, let's say the earth is flat. Sure. I don't care to disprove, or acknowledge the fact.

The issue is that flat earthers only insist on proving the shape of the earth. Why? My question is, what does it prove, or how does it help us in the greater cause, to debate the shape of the earth? Why does the shape of the earth, even fucking matter in the slightest bit to us?

From what I can gather, and I'm being fair here okay, is that flat earthers are trying to basically say that "the bible is true" because the earth is indeed flat, because the bible says so. When flat earthers create a flat earth thread, if not for the disingenuous purpose of just filling space on the board and starting arguments, they are pushing and propogating the roman holy bible and its obsolete organized religion. Which, quite frankly, is koolaid that no one tends to drink.

Another issue is that flat earthers have stopped even including the bible or Christianity in their argument for flat earth, which is obviously where it stems from. I find this suspicious, because it removes all purpose from arguing that the earth is flat in the first place (if you would call that purpose in the first place)

So, flat earthers, what are you trying to prove with the earth being flat? Or are you just blowing a bunch of useless wind? Are you saying the bible is true, "Satan" is real, accept Jesus into your heart etc?

Because if not, then explain why the earth being flat is important. Does that mean we should all go to the north pole and slip through the hole in the earth to be free from the matrix? What is the follow-up to the earth being flat?
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>>19502001
Selling globes
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>>19502032
Even though I know this is a troll response, wouldn't the map making companies make more money if everyone on earth had to buy a new "Flat Earth" map to replace their globe?
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>>19502030


Because as of now the earth being flat DOES NOT make a bit of difference in regards to the plight of the earth, regardless of its god damn shape. If the earth is flat, the government is still corrupt, evidence is staggeringly showing that global warming is an issue, species are going extinct, people are starving to death/dying of thirst, war and people killing each other because their corrupt governments told them to, our resources are being depleted at a rate faster than we have grown as a species, and ocean acidification may change the fate of our water supply.

knowing the earth is flat doesn't help us fight against any of these things. some have argued that none of them are real, because of "the earth is flat/matrix" argument. And if that's your stance on the issue, I would like an explanation of what truly needs to be dealt with (e.g. here you would say well the earth is flat & you need to accept Jesus in your heart/aliens are demons/write in your blood over intent/migrate to the holy grail at the north pole)
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>>19502040
Circle maps have a lot of waste cut out
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>>19498496

Oh you poor idiot...

Here's a little proof. If yoy lay down at sunset. facing sunset, then, just as the sun disappears, you can see the sunset again by standing up quickly. In fact, there is a large building so tall that the discrepancy between the top floor's sunset and the bottom floor's sunset is so big that Islam had to make new rules regarding Ramadan for just that building.

The reason this is important is, on a flat earth, the sunset would be uniform regardless of height.

Also, in the same vein, you can see more of the earth by ascending and less by descending. If this is difficult to believe, get into a plane and watch your field of view grow just after takeoff. This would not happen on a flat earth as you would have to ascend at an astronomical rate to increase your field of view.

Assuming that gravity functions by the ascension of earth at 9.8 m/s^2, then earth would reach terminal velocity. Likewise, this would involve birds constantly ascending at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2 just to HOVER. And birds do far more than hover. In fact some birds can fly quite high. I've seen birds upwards of 200-200 feet in the air (60.96-91.44 m). This would take astronomical flight ability to ascend to that height. Not to mention how high planes go...

And, the ultimate question: Motive. What do they have to gain from telling what is, to you, an obvious lie?
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>>19498576
Except as you can see here, the pole facing the sun is warmer. granted this is air temperature, but still.

>>19498744
>ground based telescope that isn't on top of a mountain or the size of a building
>expecting anything decent

>>19498694
>implying sundials work

>>19498626
>implying that works

>>19498570
>This report makes some maths for if you had a rigid plane of constant mass flying in calm conditions over a flat plane
Oh no, that must mean the earth is flat.
ever heard of differentiation?

>>19498527
yeah, the individual atoms are that hot, but there are almost none of them, so the spacecraft doesn't heat up much because it's radiating heat away rather quickly.
>>19498509
they photoshop the pictures purely to make the colours look right, because Cameras don't always sense the right wavelengths of light we do, as strongly as we do. and different cameras detect different wavelengths...

>>19498496
And as for you. The moon doesn't orbit directly over the equator, so it's path isn't a straight line.
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"Why are my threads being deleted and not archived!" he cries as he continues to shitpost and use borderline troll physics for his argument.
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>>19500013
the atmosphere is what matters, why are astronauts in space shuttles able to hear each other, or the co pilot in an f-18 trainer able to hear the pilot?

That's because it all relative. It only matters about the medium its travelling through, such as air. That's why we cant hear in space. That's why we CAN hear on earth.
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>>19502046
So flatfags are basically trying to draw attention away from the real problems that we as a species need to deal with by spamming this dumb bullshit?

That makes a strange amount of sense.
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>>19502079
just lift weights until you're able to light the weight of yourself AND the chair

it's fool-proof!
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>>19502087

Air/oxygen filling the space. otherwise they'd suffocate. However, at high speeds, the air literally is forced out of your lungs, so we developed a system to pump said air into the body. And a system to pick up and amplify the sound so that everyone can hear it.
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flat earth is not a paranormal / spiritual topic. perhaps if you post in the science or random thread it wont be deleted
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>>19500230

Then where was the moon before we had balloons?
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>>19500449

Different perspective, weather conditions, different color-correction technology, and the earth spins kinda slow... You'd barely notice...
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>>19502118
Well yeah but paranormal is the only board where it might not get immediately laughed at.

>>19502121
Everyone knows the world is only 100 or so years old and everything before that is just a lie, take your disinfo lies elsewhere you fucking shill.
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>>19502132
Make no mistake, we're laughing at you.
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>>19502132

Sounds like last Thursdayism...
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>>19502132
What is there to gain from such a massive, asinine conspiracy to hide this information?
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>>19502162

I made this post
>>19502062

Asking the same question and nobody answered or acknowledged me...

You'll be lucky to get one
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>>19498542
because you only see the light reflecting infront of you into your camera/eye. you can test this on the ocean and you will see that the hot spot moves with you....i dont even know why i have to write the obvious...
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>>19502030
>>19502001

It's pretty funny that no one can rebuttal you and I, they just pick and choose their arguments
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>>19502201

Basically, anyone with anything resembling an informed opinion is instantly ignored. In this sense they aren't unlike religious zealots.
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>>19501993
Then tell us how it works.
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>>19502465

How about you actually look at people with informed opinions? Instead of picking and choosing only the weakest arguments.

I'd recommend these
>>19502030
>>19502046
>>19502062
>>19502072
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Helio centrecism disproves flat earth

but flat earth OPs always seem to forget whatever was discussed in previous thread when making new ones, and they turn into touretts repeating the same canned arguements and photos, like that fucking vampire thread


HELIOCENTRIC EARTH DISPROVES FLAT EARTH
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>>19502030
See >>19498597

ITS THE TRUTH! I dont give a shit about religion, maybe it would prove some things.

If this map is true, THERES SO MUCH MORE TO BE DISCOVERED!

If we live on a ball, we've already discovered everything. If this non-curved realm we live on is possibly ENDLESS, where can that take us???

The possibilities are endless. We wouldn't need giant rocketships, just a plane to get us past the frozen barriers, see>>19498564
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>>19501993

Thanks for clearing that up.

Earth may not be flat, but the curve we are given is INCORRECT!
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>>19502728

So they deny heliocentrism to avoid the problem
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>>19501339

see>>19498732
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>>19501245
see>>19502754
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>>19502754

So you just want to explore... Really? That's the crux of your argument here? That's beyond unscientific
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>>19502754
>we've already discovered everything.
If you believe in this shit because you are afraid that earth is finish go to hollow earth. And if it can lesser your fearness of being nothing in a great universe, we explored less than 10% of the seas and oceans.
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>>19502775

So the UN map beign as inclusive as possible is evidence now? And you still give no evidence...
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>>19502776
Whats unscientific?

If there was new minerals, new plants, new fungi, new animals, NEW EVERYTHING, science would be in a golden era of DISCOVERY!
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>>19502781
You must've missed the link provided

see>>19502754
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>>19502784

Which is total bullshit and wishful thinking... Debunk my points. Then I'll concede you are right. You have to PROVE that the earth is flat, in order to assume that the infinite space (which would cause catastrophic and exponential growth which would tear the world apart, not to mention the upward acceleration would rip the world apart even if the exponential growth of the earth didn't)
>>19502062
>>19499256 (Not me)
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>>19502796

See
>>19502813

Debunk literally one of my points. One. I will an hero at this point if you can.
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>>19502820

Note: Silence will be regarded as admission of being wrong. You have one hour.
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>>19498873
that is not how light attenuation works
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>>19502754

go back to your wagecuck job
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>>19502878

That is not how you win an argument with these people. You wait on them to die and hope their stupidity repels all others from them except for other idiots. Thus the selective nature of the species will let them die off, unless they inbreed. However, after a few generations of inbreeding, they will develop so many deadly conditions that no children can survive.
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Is there a pilot here (i dont mean a rookie) that also thinks the earth is flat?? And if so post a photo of the ege of the world from a airplane..
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>>19502930

They'll default to "There is no edge it never ends" as they've done with this

Either it has an edge and you can fall or it never ends.
>>19502813
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>>19502813
>You have to PROVE that the earth is flat

Obviously, what do you think this thread is here to do, listen to your insults and rehearsed (((science)))?

If this were easy, it wouldn't be a debate would it? Heliocentric indoctrination starts in public school day 1, even fucking alex jones' logo has a globe earth!

Propaganda is strong, NASA and other agencies have strong budgets, and non-bias speculation is a rare trait in most people.

I don't know for sure what the shape the earth is, I'm willing to admit I could be wrong. I think most people suffer from herd mentality, they just assume what is assumed by everyone else is correct. If you break down some of the information, it creates several cracks in the interest of the heliocentric theory.

I dont know who (You) are, I can try to refute your points best I can if you link them.
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>>19502970
SUCH ART
CATHY TITLES
NORMAL PEOPLE
LONG LINE
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>>19502970

I've linked to them... Literally every post I've made...

>>19502936
>>19502820
>>19502813

Bottom line:

1. What motive do they have?
2. How is the earth not collapsing, imploding, or vaporizing from the motion of the earth up or exponential infinite growth
3. It is science. If it weren't you'd have debunked them. Hence why I am speculative.
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>>19498668
agreed - cherry picking w/o backstory is worse than cherry picking.
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>>19498692
the flat -heads claim it is a fallacy to believe that the Earth is circular just because the other cosmic bodies we observe are circular.
Flat Earth bullshit is a psyop to promote abrahamic idiocy as well as red button propaganda to dismiss true red pill discourse.
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>>19503023
circular - I mean spherical
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>>19503023

Yeah, they basically just say "All blood is blue until you look at it and it gets exposed to air" (Yeah it is an actual myth I had to debunk)
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>>19498587
>>19498597
>>19498564
>>19502784
Alright, before the thread becomes 404.

Let's make flat earth thread history.

I'll bite. So we can settle the argument.

I'll admit that I'm biased because I think the idea that there are 3,000 mile high ice walls surrounding us is absurd.

But, let's say that's the truth, okay? Or we at least have reason to think of it as a possibility.

Besides Admiral Byrd, who is EVER going to be the legendary hero to somehow cross past those ice walls? Who is keeping us from doing that? I think it's common at this point that flat earthers say, in reference to the expedition to prove there is a hole at the north pole or something, those people are dissidents/exposing the truth/whatever, and they get abducted or killed off in order to keep the secret.

So I guess, what is your end game with the flat earth threads? Just to spread awareness, to introduce the idea, only to result in no one ever really going so far as to go past the ice walls?

You can argue and battle it out that the earth is flat, there are infinite resources past those ice walls, but what exactly is it going to take to actually GO PAST THE WALLS and get to those other pocket realms or whatever?

Right? Let's say sure, there are other realms with four legged horse-eared rabbit men in them past the ice walls. How are you going to get there, who is stopping us? Are all of you flat earthers hoping to inspire an expedition? Why don't you just form your own expedition and prove it to all the non-flatearth believers? Surely an infinite realm of resources and other civilizations is worth the effort of a group of flat earthers pooling together their own money, and taking out bank loans to have such a once in a lifetime experience as seeing another realm. Or are you flatearthers not faithful enough in your own theory to test it? Surely it must be worth it.

Or, plot twist, maybe all the flat earthers are immigrants from Asgard, or Niflheim.
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>>19503090

Ive called for it before and I will call for it again

have a drone conduct a transantarctic flight, complete with telemetrics and gps/ camera during the time of year when there is 24 hour sunlight
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>>19503108
How much would this cost? That sounds like a swimming idea, my good old chap. And I'll bring it up in every flat earth thread God knows there will be more to come. I believe this is the biggest hole in the flat earth concept.

Because so far the idea goes: "the earth is flat, NASA is lying, there are realms with infinite resources, but we can't go there because... reasons".

That's where it falls apart and if no flat earthers will comment on that then I'll be disappointed.

For criminy, I'll have one day made enough money to expedite my own drone flight, hopefully with the willing help. Just to settle this garbage. It can and will be proven or disproven, it's just people would rather argue on the internet than actually do something.
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>>19503177

And to top it all off... They bitch and moan that nobody wants to argue... But you give them real scientific evidence and they ignore it
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>>19498564
THIS IS HOW YOU BEAT GATEKEEPERS!
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Are y'all retarded or just trolling?
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>>19503223

I'd say trolling.
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>>19503108

FLY IN STRAIGHT PATH FAGGOTS

HELIOCENTRICISM DISPROVES FLAT EARTH
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>>19503240

Then they default to heliocentrism is false
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>>19503214
No, that is not how you "beat" a "gatekeeper". What he did is he posted on an image board. He did not fly to Antarctica and attempt to go over the "wall".

I am willing to acknowledge the argument, because it can't be proven until someone goes there, sees it, does it, then comes back and says "well, here's the results guys."

Flatearthers seem to be mainly people who just post stuff on the internet, and that's it. Sure, they may sometimes post something well coordinated and somewhat scientific, but in essence that is still just the mere activity of posting something on the internet.

Someone needs to get off their ass and DO SOMETHING. Until then, everyone is just flapping their gums.

And from the looks of it, flat earthers are usually defending their points less intelligently than the opposing side, much less common, and most often with the least substance.

The verdict is swinging towards the idea that flat earth is a "psyop", a contrived idea to fill board space, especially because the flat earth squad doesn't want to commit to going to Antarctica. Instead just posting on the internet.
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>>19503347

Funny thing, no flat earther can explain eclipses....
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>>19503253
please go reread the thread, its already been proven to be true
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>>19502993
Not the person you were talking to but I'll put on my flat earth hat and answer you because I fucking love flat earth threads.

1. The motive is to disprove religious descriptions of the earth and universe to separate people from god and also from their own higher natures. If you think you are a tiny spec of dust in a vast empty universe it will demoralIze you. If you think you are a prince of the kingdom of heaven and a steward of God's creation you can hold your head high and act accordingly.

2. It's not collapsing because velocity isn't the only way to explain what keeps us in place. Density and buoyancy can also explain that AND disprove gravity at the same time. Think of the way a submarine floats.
Also something something electro magnetism (honestly I forgot the specifics but there's a magnet explanation somewhere)

3. Technically this isn't science at all but nature. Semantics aside though, the heliocentric model is full to the brim with holes in the theory. It really falls flat on it's face. There isn't a single shred of proof anywhere to support it.
If you don't believe me then try to prove the earth is round and that it orbits the sun. I guarantee you that you won't be able to find any evidence that can't be debunked.

I'm not saying the earth is flat but it sure as FUCK is not anything close to what we were taught it was. It might be flat though so get right with God I guess.
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>>19502465
you know what?
I'll fucking do you one better

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/0cztfioh1s

In this link, you will find a simply constructed mathematical model to Output the distance from the earth's surface to the viewer when he travels forwards in a straight line.

If you would like any other maths done, don't hesitate to ask.
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>>19503461
http://biblehub.com/job/26-7.htm

He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

You can prove that the earth is moving in relation to the sun by watching the progression of the constellations throughout the year.
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>>19503616
That doesn't prove anything. Have you considered the possibility that the earth is stationery and that the sun and constellations are what's actually moving?
You can't prove either one because you can't observe both the earth and the celestial bodies from a fixed perspective
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>>19500643
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>>19501245
BUT WHY, WHY, WHY. All you parrots talk about, read for yourself, research and come to the conclution by yourself you lazy fuck.

You're either sheep or a shill
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>>19502030
What a stupid question. Read a book
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>>19503795
>>19502001

I mean, really? have you done any research at all?
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>>19503791
So in other words you don't have an answer.
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>company releases shitty unfinished product
>company goes bankrupt
>employees leave

Boy, sure is spoopy
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>>19503791
READ instead of asking. Idiot
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>>19503883
what did you mean by this?
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>>19502741
You didn't even read the description on your own fucking map
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>>19498682
This seriously makes the earth look like a dome, or hemisphere.
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>>19504500
Fuck you that's god's map
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Jesus fucking Christ I haven't seen so many types of cancer in one thread. Absolutely kill yourselves you fucking idiots.
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>>19498527
Because they're all about 10 miles apart, there are pictures of the ISS, it can be seen by the naked eye in certain parts. The ISS is in the mid thermosphere, this is a near vacuum environment, that means the few particles you come into contact with aren't enough to transfer any meaningfully high amount of temperature.
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>>19498564
So how do you explain gravity in a stationary model?
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>>19498542
What do you mean hotspot? If you're talking about the temperature, it's because the farther you go up the closer to vacuum you become, the less particles, the less heat transfer.
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>>19498587
Is this a hxh reference
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>>19498496
lol the Earth can't be flat just one go direction and you'll eventually end up were you started
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>>19504685
Niggas can't explain gravity in ANY model. But see >>19503461
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>>19498687

>what is long exposure
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>>19503669
It has slready been explained how it we live in a heliocentic solar system

Go reread the thread
>and flat earthers tell us WE cant read....
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>>19498520

When the globe eathers and flat eathers are equally retarded and using the same bad examples to fight each other. There ain't enough popcorn for this shit.
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>cant explain muh gravity

What is there to explain about it? Are you not experiencing it?
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So it seems if you can prove heliocenrecism and that the earth is rotating on it axis at an angle and that distributions of light/seasons, eclipses, time of air travel between continents and red shift/blue shif of stars are by products of this then you can disprove flat earth, and should be the basis or future arguements in other threads

HOWEVER the main claims flat earthers are going with is 1." Visual Evidence" of photos taken too close to the earths surface to capture the earths curviture, 2. Defaulting arguing about gravity ( which is present in both models ) 3. Claiming no one has travelled to see "muh ice walls" or flown in a straight line over antarctica from say south america to australia,and peope will be killed ny governments of the world if they do so

This is thr current state of flat earth debates, and people always forget what is said in previous threads, meaning no Comrehension is gained by either side about their opponents, resulting in the same repeating canned arguements in each thread. The biggest problem lies in reading comprehension and continuity of arguements. You all should improve on this
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>Flat earth
>Eclipse
>Mfw
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>>19505713
This
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>>19505794
sweetie, imagine both objects spinning above earth and one overlapping the other
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>>19505808
>>>19505794 (You)
>sweetie, imagine both objects spinning above earth and one overlapping the other
i hope you have a ladder for that rabbit hole, alice
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>>19505722
They keep doing the four year old's "But why?" routine. So you get to the point where there isn't an answer and they claim that therefore there's no such thing as gravity.

Even though you can play the "but why?" game with any topic and in only a few steps you get to no answer.
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Did anyone ever explain why all or even any governments would give a damn about the shape of the Earth?
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>>19502030
The verses they use do not even plainly state anything about the earth being flat. If it were as big a deal as they make it, while they're trying to use the bible as their main reasoning behind why they care, the bible would make a deal about it but it just doesnt.

If they really care about saving people and getting people the truth they would be spreading the gospel as Jesus commanded.

He didn't say go forth and tell every creature that the earth is flat.
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>>19505866
They're all in league with each other and also with Satan so they try to lead us away from God.
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>>19505691
Bruh. My nigga. My man. My dude. My guy, listen. You cannot prove that the earth is orbiting the sun and I will explain why.

You would need a stationary observation point that could observe both the sun and the earth simultaneously to properly chart the movement of both bodies. This is simply not possible from a heliocentric OR flat earth model.

In heliocentrism the sun is moving fast as shit through space and pulling the earth with it. There's no way to be stationary and get a proper observation because you would be dragged along by gravity. Geocentricism has NOT been disproven. The entire universe may very well revolve around the earth.

In flat earth you can't get past the dome so gg.

Heliocentrism cannot be proven conclusively. If it could we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You would just be able to btfo me with an infographic or an info dump because this subject has been discussed ad nauseum.
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>>19506802
It's perfectly possible that the earth is still round but the universe is geocentric. Like you said no way to prove it and any astronomer who knows what he's talking about would tell you that. The math works for both heliocentric and geocentric.

But that does not prove the earth is flat.
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Didn't know that /x/ can have YLYL threads
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>>19500019
pizzagate yeah sure. flat earth? nah.
it would actually be really hard to see all of earth with a naked eye because being that far away from earth to see it is kinda hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhxL1LzKww
I'm not coming back, /x/ spoop threads are what you're good at.
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>>19506802
Thanks for this.
It's good to see level-headed rationality every now and again.
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If these people are serious, they should just do these simple measurements themselves and calculate the "real" distance of the Sun and Moon from the Earth.

Kindly remind them in every thread,
if their model really worked then this shouldn't pose any challenge.
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>>19506942
If the universe IS geocentric like a lot of religions claim then I would be inclined to believe that it is flat as well because multiple religions/traditions with access to historical knowledge that they shouldn't be able to have claim it is.

Also the idea of living on a plane of existence that is a proxy for a spiritual civil war is just way more fucking cool than the idea of being a speck of dust on a rock in the middle of empty nothingness
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>>19502072
(TFW forgot the poles image, whoops)
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>>19505808
This is obviously how lunar eclipses work. When the sun moves in front of the moon above the flat earth, you can no longer see the moon.
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>>19507500
>>19506942
The universe is geocentric.
it's also Heliocentric
and Galactocentric

and centred on everything at the same time
because everything is relative.
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I think it's odd that wherever the sun and moon may actually be, it's one hell of a nice coincidence that during an eclipse they happen to be the same size.
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>>19509103
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>>19507026
isn't every thread here a YLYL tread?
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>>19498496
REAL PIC OF EARTH, FLATHEADS BTFO LOL
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>>19504701
This small bright spot below the (((giant sun 93 millions miles away)))

...because that makes sense

If the sun is so huge and far away, how is this little bright spot under it?

>inb4 muh small opening in the clouds, muh refraction duh
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>>19503090
>>19503108

Spreading awareness is important, why not? I started this whole thing thinking it was dumb, trying to understand how someone could be so retarded they would believe the earth is flat.

Just like former IRS workers realizing there is now law to collect income tax, I started to seriously doubt the heliocentric theory.

Would I like to fly a drone from New Zealand over Antarctica and find out whats beyond? Without a doubt yes. I could be wrong, I'M STILL WAITING TO BE WRONG!

I don't have the resources and I don't want to be a target of some attack because of my hypothesis. NGT says flatearthers shouldnt be allowed to create policy, which IMO is discrimination.

Why doesn't someone send a drone? Why doesn't NASA send me a check to STFU instead? That'd be nice. I don't have the money and I don't want to become a victim of discrimination or silenced for exposing the truth.

Enjoy the awareness in the meantime.
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>>19509805
isn't that just a composite shot?
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>>19509833
You say you don't want to be silenced for you hypothesis, and then you say you don't want to be silenced for exposing the truth. Those are two different things. A hypothesis hasn't been proven where the truth is, well, true.

Plus, you can't sit there and say, "The earth could be flat just because I don't have the money to travel it." If you're going to have that mentality, then it would be the same to say, "There's nothing beyond the end of the street because I've never walked that way."

Math and observation and testing of hypothesis has proven the world to be round. Flat earthers usually just deny it because they don't understand it and it doesn't match what they "see". But then again, if you sat down and explained to them everything, showed them how the math works, take them up in a rocket and let them see the world from a far, they'll still argue the earth is flat, just because they're afraid of a reality bigger than they can conceive and don't want to be wrong about what they cling to.
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>>19498722
No, Canada
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>>19509833

So, in other words you're a basement dwelling chimp with a mental illness who is and always be a perpetual drain on society.
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>>19510275
>Confirmed for not knowing anything at all about flat earth theory or heliocentrism

I can tell by your post that you have never spent even 5 minutes researching either subject. You are just regurgitating what TV and movies have told you.
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