Who wins in the end: G-d or Satan?

>>19492542
Satan is just a shitty tulpa made by the Almighty. Of course the almighty wins.

>>19492542
How do you plan to identify the victor?

>>19492542
why not both?

>>19492551
I know, but why do Satanists worship and sell their souls to Satan if they know that they're gonna burn in the lake of fire eventually?

>>19492588
maybe they want to burn. why do you post on a satanist lake burner forum?

>>19492588
>>19492601
I'm a deviant but don't want to burn

>>19492542
They are the same.
Both fake by the way

>>19492542
>teleports behind both of them
>nothin' personnel kid

>>19492752
Why do you believe they're both fake?

>>19492542
God.

>>19492542
Whoever wins, we lose

>>19492542
why are you afraid to type "god"?

>>19493039
I would assume it's because they're Jewish. Probably thinks by showing humility by being unworthy of speaking His name it'll make up for crucifying His son.

Neither. It's an eternal battle.

>>19492588
They believe in an incorrect cosmology, where they think they can live separate from God, and where God is a selfish asshole that is making them suffer.

>>19493213
>they think they can live separate from God
Implied by free will.
>God is a selfish asshole that is making them suffer
He either has the power to improve the condition of the people who choose to distance themselves from him or he's not omnipotent. Ergo, if he is all powerful, it's his choice to have his absence take on the characteristics that it does. He can control his meta-nature if he's the true creator.

>>19493213
They're close. Satan is the asshole making us suffer and we can live without him.

>>19493230
>Implied by free will.
Not really. We are all connected to God even though we have free will. God perceives his creation through us.

>He either has the power to improve the condition of the people who choose to distance themselves from him or he's not omnipotent.
Or maybe he wants people to have free will so he lets them live with the consequences of doing evil things. The whole point of free will is to help us learn.

So I guess you're butthurt that life isn't 100% bliss 100% of the time? That seems like it would get old FAST. Everything is relative.

>>19493241
>100% bliss 100% of the time
That's purposelessness. That IS hell.

>>19493241
>The whole point of free will
*ahem*

No.

>>19492542

>thinking they were ever separate things
>not realizing satan is literally the Demiurge with a sock puppet

Heaven and are hell are the same. It is torture and ecstasy before destruction.

Our only hope is to accept it.

>>19492542
Neither. R*ger R*bbit wins.

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>>19493263
Yaweh = Demiurge = Satan = Lucifer
Monad = God
Catholic Bible = book of lies written by Satanists

Take the Gnostic pill

>>19493277
No. Kind of. Close enough.
The dubs of Kek approve.

>>19493293
I'm curious, where do you think I'm wrong?

>>19493300
You're right in everything but the Bible being written by Satanists. The Old Testament is incredibly corrupt (but important history.) However, the New Testament is good. It's just missing the Gnostic parts, which is quite a shame because it leaves some questions unanswered.

>>19493312
Do you find the similarities between Mithras and Jesus as portrayed in the Bible suspicious, especially considering that at the time Christianity was legalized in Rome there were many mithraic priests as officers in the military?

Do you think it's weird how much modern christianity sounds like idol worship of Jesus?
>accept him as your personal saviour or go to hell

>>19493312
Also interested to hear what you think of the Book of Enoch

>>19493319
I don't know much about Mithras. Can you please explain?

>>19493338
Very confusing and full of mistranslations but there is info in there.

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Can't even say His name commie..

>>19493340
I believe that Mithras was born in a manger and 3 Zoroastrian priests followed a star to find it and gave him gifts. Other similarities I forget as well.

>>19493277
quick rundown on the Gnostic pill?

>>19493039
>>19493353
because it's a sin, u niggers

>>19492907
This is the most frightening comment

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>>19492542
DOES YOUR SINFUL ARROGANCE KNOW NO BOUNDS THAT YOU WOULD DARE DEFY ME, SATAN?

We need to question is if God is source, why does Satan think he needs to battle god if he knows he will not win in the end? Unless there is a possibility that he can win, and he knows what can lead to that possibility, thus making God mortal. But can the source of the universe really be something that can be defeated? Thus Satan's enemy isn't The Source.

I guess what could make sense is the Qabbalah belief that satan is G-d's left hand.

guess it depends on what the author wants to happen. Those retards in the desert made a story full of plot holes in inconsistencies.

>>19493508
You just replied to a post containing most of it

(((They))) indirectly serve Satan. (((They))) are the chosen ones, but chosen not by God but by Satan. (((They))) want to corrupt humanity and to use them as slaves, all at the command of Satan.

>>19492542
>Who wins in the end: the wimpy absent faggot or nasty mean faggot?
Fuck both of them, neither is good for Man.

>>19493633
Think about all the shit we put our tulpas through in our works of fiction. Why should we expect any different from God?

>people in this thread think "god" is the name of God
How are you this fucking stupid? You cant say the actual name of God, that would be YHWH. Thats why you use "god" instead, like using "Sir" isntead of someone's name.

>>19492542
None.
Seth wins.

>>19492542
>G-d
>>19493051
>>19493515
No need to be such a pussy about saying "God," that's not even his name.
>>19493673
Exactly. It's a fucking title.

>>19492901
Hell is literally made up.

>>19493832
That's just wording what you said in a different way. Like how did you come to that conclusion

>>19493846
Hell is an advent of the catholic church to control people with fear. People couldn't read back then for the most part.

satan

>>19492542
Michael casts Satan out of heaven.
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

>>19492542
Satan gets this world, but God gets his people and we move to the next.

>>19493241
Almost nobody is butthurt because they want a tasp. If anything, you're probably projecting. 100% bliss 100% of the time won't be something you've seen coming in from outside your consciousness, so it must have originated from within. You're going to have to let go of that if you hope to understand other humans.

why, my peenus weenus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah

ITT: Who wins in the end: G-d or Satan - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!

>>19492542
Me.

>>19493673
>YHWH
Edgy pretender god, not God.

>>19495394
i was going to kill myself tonight in about an hour and a half but thanks to this post i'm not going to do it. tonight at least. i really can't make any promises other than that but hopefully with the light of the p3n0r i will find true contentment and inner peace someday

praise peanus weenus

All I know is the creator of this world whoever he is is far from a perfect being.

>Still believes in Abrahamic cosmology

>>19495938
>Uses the word "Abrahamic" as though it's a historically or categorically meaningful term.
>Is 14 years old.

Why do people believe in Christianity?

>>19492551
sorry but the creator of this world is not almighty. he is merely and apprentice god

>>19495972
Why would anyone? It plainly exists in the noosphere, there are shittons of buildings and books and such all over the place that were made to express its existence in various ways. You've probably seen some of these things yourself. It might be less "real" than the keyboard or touchscreen you typed that post from, but it has as much of a claim to reality as anything else that exists mainly as cortical nerve-data, including all information you consider as being part of your self-identify.

>>19493574
He thinks he can win he has a huge god complex to the point that he tries to be god by imitating everything he does but for some reason the knock off thinks he can win

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>>19493508
>>19493603
Yes I know that. Will (((they))) be thrown into the lake of fire along with Satan in the end?

>>19495979
Who's the big boss of Gods? The man at the top of the power pyramid?

The Children of Seth will rise.

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>>19495126
Why did 33% of Heaven's angels decide to go with Satan?

What did he promise them and how was he able to convince so many?

>>19492605
then you are blessed

>>19496208
Free Will.

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>>19492588
Don't be a retard, real satanists don't believe Satan is a bad guy. They aren't edgy.

You wanna know what a real satanist is? The Yezidi people worship the "peacock angel" Melek Taus, who when God told him to bow before Adam, refused and declared he will not bow before Adam because he is made of dust while he himself is a direct emanation of God. God then praised Melek Taus instead of banishing him (Lucifer) and made him the chief of all angels and declared Earth his kingdom. He became the God of this world while the original God fucked off because he's too important to care about Earth.

The muslims around them ofc think they're devil worshippers and rape and kill them all the time, unfortunately.

Even the edgy western Satanists don't believe that Satan is a bad guy, they think he's either in service to God or is THE God.

>>19492588
Short sighted

>>19492605
Ohhhh yeahhh....yeahhh you do baby

Now kys you deviant fuck

>>19492588
>>19496215
I know that Satanists consider Satan to be the good guy that only wanted to help humanity from the beginning by giving them knowledge and freedom of choice etc.

But why would Satan not bow before Adam if he really does care about humans?

>>19496223
t. limp dick

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>>19493673
>Can't say the name of God
>Doesn't know the 7 holy names and how to pronounce them

This is why we will always continue to control you.

>>19493272
Please kys

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>>19495126
Yaldabaoth
>>19493673
Yahweh is not God, he is of God, born of God, perhaps even a son of God, but he is not God.

El Elyon is the Most High God

Yahweh gave birth to Enli/Enki/Allah, etc, the false gods of man, but yet avenues unto the divine.

El Elyon gave birth to Jesus, Jesus is to Yahweh as Yahweh is to El Elyon, both are sons of God. The two represent the polarity that exists within God, but it is an illusion as all are part of One.

The Most High God does not interfere with creation the way these other "gods" do.
>>19496208
>>19493263
>Yaweh = Demiurge = Satan = Lucifer
Monad = God
Catholic Bible = book of lies written by Satanists

Take the Gnostic pill

>>19493673
YHWH (Yahweh) = Satan

>>19493300
In your case...from being born

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>>19496225
Melek Taus fell for a moment, he repented, his tears quenching the fires of Hell. His story is a story of repentance.

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>>19496232
I wonder how many people is truly Gnostic at this point of time...

>>19496240
Not sure, but I've recently opened up to it. It makes a lot of sense and explains the various religions and struggles.

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>>19496242
>Tfw you mix Gnosticism and Law of One so everything makes absolute sense.

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>>19496257
Tfw you delude yourself with cancer white magick and miss the fundamentals of esotericism

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>>19496263
>One spoon of Light
>Another one of Darkness
>Two spoons of Chaos
>And a spoon and a half of Order
>We let it cook for 25 years and 361 days
What am I cooking?

>>19492542
Why, the wolf you feed most, of course.

>>19492907
Damn

>>19492907
This implies a "we" separate from these beings

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>>19496267
a universe

>>19496338
In a sense this is correct, but think smaller.

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>>19496257
>>19496240
>>19496232
somebody please explain the basic beliefs of the Gnostic Pill?

>>19492542
Saitama.

Oh, pro tip: these are all fictional characters.

>>19496518
Christianity but more smug and God and Satan are both eeeebil

That's at least the impression I get from Gnostic anons

>>19493051
Burn

>>19493574
>>19496192
Satan was felled by pride and then cast out of Heaven. His pride continues unabated. Yes, he believes he can win.

>>19496518
>>19496548
I read the Gnostics had/have sex orgies and eat babies. Is this true?

What happens to Gnostic souls when they die?

>>19496339
We await the answer oh great trip.

>>19496578
>I read the Gnostics had/have sex orgies and eat babies. Is this true?
Not this one, but I'm a Christian Gnostic. I can't speak for the Satanist ones.

>>19496210
33% is still a big portion. They must've really believed they could've been able to beat G-D.

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>>19492542
>g-d

>>19496723
k-ike n-igger

>>19496715
They know god is deceiving everyone when he says he's God.

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Discord: /JJdGXAK

>>19496799
He still kicked their asses, with or without the deceiving

>>19496820
Well...
It created them, didn't it?
No reason to know every weakness of your own creation

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>who wins???
>asshole A that wants to remake the world in his image
>asshole B that wants to remake the world in his image
Divinity is a losing game.

>>19496855
It always meant to be like that.

>>19496867
It always was*
Damn those typos.

>>19496339
consciousness? a being? each being is a universe unto himself? the elementary particles?

>>19492542
Everyone loses.

>>19496913
Maaaan, I hate when people make wild guesses...

>>19492542
Entropy

>>19496961
well fuck, you described the creation of a universe LOL what do you want? I don't know other than what I've listed

>>19496967
The
>We let it cook for X time.
Should have told you what I was cooking

>>19492542
God wins
He could win at literally any time but doesn't

>>19492542
My peenus weenus of course, haha! :)

>>19492542
How would we know who the winner is?