Flat Earth

Earth is round

Prove me wrong

>>19491945
Show me the curve. No CGI

>>19491909
Ur wrong

How do tides work?

>>19491909
The accepted idea is that the earth is round. It has been proven in the past multiple times. If you now claim that the earth is flat you need to prove it to us...

>>19491909
>Idiocracy is real
>prove me wrong

>>19491958
the earth tilts duh

by the way fuck these new captchas

Gravity doesn't exist

The globe theory is dead, a satanic Freemasons lie

>>19491909
North star rises in the sky as you travel north and drops to the horizon as you travel south, eventually dissapearing below the horizon.

>>19491958
a large whirlpool at the center that changes direction every twelve hours

>>19491987
How about the tides in the central region of the earth (presumably the Atlantic, but I don't keep up with flat earth theory.) The sea level would stay the same in the middle and rise and fall an assload of a lot around the edges.

>>19492123
The opposite of
>>19491987

>>19491909

You chimps legitimately need to be purged.

>>19491909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAqFeAmkf1A

>>19491949
Show me the edge of the earth. Walk to it. Show me someone who lives there. God youre so autistic lmao

>>19491909
>prove me wrong
flat earthers in a nutshell

they are boring uninteresting assholes who can't get attention from ANYONE without espousing some insane theory that disregards all natural logic.

>>19491909

Not flat earth /x/ per say here, but OP's pic has me curious. Any math nerds know the probability that our moon is the exact right size and distance to perfectly cover the sun?

>>19492286
you're a sensitive lad

>>19492339
That's no moon...

>>19492339
How big are the odds that your thumb is just the right size to cover the moon?
Can you calculate the right angle?

Anon please, don't try to hard to sound as dumb as a real flattard. Think every now and then will ya.

The Earth is wrong

Prove me flat

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>>19492424

>>19492339
For things that have already happened, there is no probability associated with them.

There is no reason that the sun and moon have the same angle to you, and that you can cover either with your outstretched thumb.

God just did it to mess with people's heads.

>>19491909
Fucking Erasthothenes did this 2000 years ago you fucking faggot. Kill yourself immediately.

Put a stick into the ground in city A that lies on middle of Earth. Observe the shadow casted on Summer Equinox.

Put another stick into ground in city B 500 miles south of A. Observe the shadow casted on Summer Equinox.

A = no shadow
B = larger shadow

??????

PROFIT

Why are you still alive?

--> /close thread

>>19491909
It's not your fault that you're not able to comprehend physics. I just love these kinds of people. They just talk and fantasize, maybe it would be better if you just followed the smarter man. Just don't get delusional with 'smarter' as a spiritual thing, leave that for fantasy's box.


Alright basically, just make boxes of data in your head. Place stuff from science in to [Reality box] and place other shit in [assumption box]

If you think that this kind of thinking is limiting for a humans mind, you're right. But thinking for yourself in your case is much worse.

>>19492598
your arrogance is why people are moving away from science

Who even ever said the earth is real

That's just the fucking Jews pushing their black-gay agenda

>>19492608

No one is moving away from science.

There have always been mentally ill people roaming around spouting their insanity. Society, at this point in time, has simply chosen to allow them to roam free, for some inexplicable reason.

Your time will come.

>>19492608
In where do you see my arrogance?

>>19492613
>I just provide an explanation
>for some inexplicable reason.

you are a dense faggot

>>19492621
>maybe it would be better if you just followed the smarter man
>But thinking for yourself in your case is much worse.

Space ex are offering flights around the moon in 2018, hop on and have a look for yourself op

>>19492626
Seriously this. Fuck off Jamey, you're only spattering grease on a flaming carper fire.

>>19492626
It is a guide, I'm not pointing at myself as a 'smarter man' - I'm referring to scientists who actually give you clean data.

And yes, I can't agree with myself more, do stuff that you can actually do. For some thinking is not the strong side. But you shouldn't be sad about it because you don't even understand the reason you're sad.

I used 'you' as a fictional person, not referring to actual you. In this way, it was easier for me to express myself in English.

>>19492651
I'm not even the guy you're referring to. I'm a science person. I don't think it's useful to create an echo chamber like Bill Nye either.

So I insult them first. Then I explain.
see >>19492475

>>19492660
You value people way too much for a science person

>>19492667
I do. I'm an optimist. I believe in weeding out parasitical thoughts from people. Sometimes with sheer force and bad words.

But I never call myself smarter than others. That is for other people to say if I have the achievements for it.

>>19492672
And you don't have a problem of optimism folding your eyes? What's the logic in that?

>>19492667
Scientists understand the value of life and free thought far more than do any other demographic. Don't be a faggot. Your point was invalid and critical thinking is a skill that anyone can acquire.

>>19492686
My logic is what is the use of pessimism? I don't necessarily call it worse though, it's a matter of character.

Yet to lead people you need to release good energy. You can be a pessimist and live alone but then don't get upset when they start believing earth is flat.

>>19492693
You have built yourself a sickening reality where everyone is equal.

>>19492705
>everyone is equal
Not really but everyone deserves a chance imo. True value is what you make of an opportunity. I believe many people are not given that opportunity.

Now a pessimist would say they turn down opportunity knowingly and this argument would go on forever :)

>>19492705
No they haven't. Stop being a faggot and trying to find the ad-hominem you can use to ignore their reasoning.

>>19492722
come on now, you're being too harsh

>>19492631
if commercial space flight happens in 2018 I'll eat my hat on livestream

>>19492758
no way commercial space flight happens before SpaceX puts astronauts on ISS. That's why NASA is telling Elon to calm the fuck down.

>>19492741
This is true. I don't tend to tolerate faggots who think anti-equality is any kind of answer.

>>19492721
Really depends on how valuable your time is.

Would you rather choose one person to benefit from your arguing or many more persons?

Because in this 'flat-earther's society' thing the efficiency of converting their mindset is very low, I'm pretty sure you know how and why that is.

>>19492776
>the efficiency of converting their mindset
You're the only one here trying to convert anyone.

But no, even here you're wrong. The efficiency of teaching critical thinking has exponential returns. You can never go wrong in teaching someone to think for themselves, even if they are the single worst person at it.

>>19492775
I'm not about anti-equality, you got that part the wrong way.

I hope you understand the meaning here:

If you can't drive a car, you shouldn't drive a car
If you can't swim, you shouldn't swim.

>>19492775
Anti-equality isn't as enviable as you might think. The people who celebrate equality and diversity are not aware that equality is fundamentally the antithesis of diversity.

Now what you would want is not to average people down to percentages, but to aggregate them into a society by parts. Acknowledging we're all vital parts of a system is the ultimate equality imo.

>>19492776
Depends on how you'd want to spend that time. I want to spend the time on my studies, yet I also am upset about flat earthers speaking stupid shit so I have found the solution to be a manager of people. You don't need to manage every person, but distribute responsibilities and have them deal with people on an individual level. To be able to do this, you need to put inspiration in the people.

So my answer would be I would benefit from one person who would argue with many more persons on my behalf.

Then again it is very important not holding your time more valuable than others. It is thanks to those people you assign to handle the society's arguments that you can have free time to focus on your studies.

With this approach, over time you have a chance to reach everyone. People like to be reached out to, you know.

>>19492475
You get the same result with a locally illuminating sun.

Do more research and cry Globie

Easy, coriolis, startrails. dude you can buy a small telescope and see Jupiter and Saturn

>>19492598
Can you elaborate on your "physics"?
No you won't you're just another parrot

>>19492820
>locally illuminating sun
what the fuck does that even mean?

>>19492802
>the ultimate equality
There is no ultimate, that's why equality is a null idea. Your analysis is correct, your analysis being correct, is why anti-equality isn't any kind of answer. There's nothing to fight against because the people pushing for equality can't do anything, and by the nature of their stance, can't harm anyone. Opposing a benign army can only be hazardous.

>>19492828
Sun is close not 93 million miles away

>>19492793
You haven't probably noticed that I am not converting anyone. It's not needed for everyone to hold good amounts of correct information if they can't even get a good use of it.

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>>19491909

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>>19492841

>>19492841
wow who knew the earth was so bright and pretty. fucking Russians made it look all orange and shitty but this is much more pleasing to the eye

>>19492833
>that's why equality is a null idea.
What I meant was we're all on the same boat. That makes all of us sailors amirite?
>Opposing a benign army
Well I believe there should be a healthy amount of friction to get things going in a society. Dialectic thinking wise

>>19492836
that's even stupider. What happens to the shadow of an object under a lamp if you bring it down very close? It would eliminate it, not only in Equinox, but at all times.

You do know why this experiment is done in Equinox, do you not?

>>19492825
Hmm, alright. On what facts do you base your understanding of 'your physics'?

>>19491909
>gets proven wrong every time
>continues to make these cheese-brained threads

your head is flat, OP

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>>19492852
>>19492841

ikr they got so carried away painting they even left a hand in there

zoom in

>>19492860
Huh? i meant explain why flat earth is physically impossible

>>19491909

The earth is a triangular prism. Prove me right.

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Genuine question for people who say the earth is flat.

If the earth is flat then at some point during the day wouldn't there be daylight for everyone.

For example someone in Canada during the morning can see the daylight but someone in china at that time will not.

I just curious what the explanation is if there is one.

>>19492858
>Equinox
sorry summer solstice*

>>19492858
>a healthy amount of friction
Absolutely. Equality being unassailable creates that friction with its own existence, for every person that holds equality as a value.

Anyone opposing equality, therefore, is an asshat contributing to unhealthy amounts of unneeded friction.

>>19492875
How am I supposed to explain the fundamental physics to you if the straight out answer is going to deny it? If we made the conversation that way it wouldn't lead you to understand.

So let's simply start - Why do things fall? Explain it as you understand it.

>>19492893
Well only if you think of friction in terms of average, like friction per person per se. It's similar to the 1% vs 99% argument. Is it healthy? No, but the system is working much better than socialism. So instead of introducing equality socialism (which is a system of averages) I propose introducing opportunity to even the gap out. Those people who would be given the opportunity to make the climb would become the healers of the system as a feedback loop.

>>19492910
an object falls/sinks because of density

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>>19491909
https://www.cheapflights.com.au/flights/SYD-SCL/2017-09-14/1adults/

That was easy

>>19492920
Alright. Do you know what density is?

Just to be clear in further discussion, you know that there are chemical elements right?

>>19492910
Why do you say i'm going to deny it, i am genuinely interested in learning.

if it's heavier than air it falls.

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>>19492938
they have made enough brain gymnastics to answer that so it's not a good way to strike

>>19491979
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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>>19492951
How?

>>19492918
>the system is working much better than socialism
It's not though. All economic systems are ultimately the same, meeting the socioeconomics needs of the population without addressing the underlying semantic needs that religion also fails to sate. Otherwise the suicide rate and the general perceived increase in diagnosis of mental illness wouldn't occur.

Capitalism, socialism, Marxism, communism, all try to provide a framework for providing opportunity in some kind of "equal" or "fair" way. They all likewise fail in marginally different capacities, not affecting the total average in any meaningful way.

Wait why am I talking to you about this? I'm a time traveler and you sound like the type of mind that ends up shaping the future I come from most meaningfully. We're not even all on the same boat from your perspective yet.

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>>19492948
I'd be guessing that this conversation is going nowhere since no one has replied. I don't use 4chan daily, so don't expect an answer from me like 30 minutes later, as I don't value educating people at this point in time.

In case if you do come back and read this,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

>>19492977
So I will end our conversation with the most surprising bit of my plans:

The only system that can work ideally is a combination of both socialism and capitalism (I'm generalizing here for shortening). I must restate that this isn't an averaging type of coexistence like the Scandinavian model, but local socialism to hold together the poorer masses, allowing them to create unions and help each other out, while global capitalism allows the system to function without external guidance, with the constant opportunity creation generating "disruption" to eliminate monopolies.

The reason my ideas resonate with you is that I am already planning years ahead and everything I'm typing here will be implemented in the geographical region I am living in. In a sense my ideas are time traveling instead of me.

>>19492976
I don't know lad, I'm not one of those people.

>>19493017
Take a look into intellectual democracy. I'm pretty sure that none of before systems would be needed.

>>19493017
>In a sense my ideas are time traveling instead of me.
And now they're traveling faster. This means you do understand the paradox I'm avoiding by not continuing this dialogue from my personal perspective. Nice to meet you.

>>19493044
I'm a fan of meritocracy in general
>>19493047
Likewise, pleasure.

Go to a harbour (no rain or fog this day), and take binoculars with you. Pick a boat leaving the harbour. Observe that it slowing begins to disappear. You'll only see the top of it, then nothing. Because the Earth is a sphere (actually a potato, a little wider at the equator than between the two poles).

Other proof : Magellan's journey (and all the other circumnavigations)


But believe it or not, the universe might be a huge expanding donut.

>>19491909

Visited some salt flats once, in Argentina. It was such a big expanse of nothingness, I could actually see the curvature of the earth. With my own eyes.

Now go kys OP

>>19492976

indeed, how?

Spheres are the most efficient way to organize matter.

God isn't a fucking idiot.

>>19493199
Truth!

>>19491909
The aurora borrealis is caused by our electro magnetic field deflecting solar wind and radiation. The field is generated by a rotating metal core.

Additionally, you can't view celestial north from the southern hemisphere. So polaris isn't over there. You just need to expand your frame of perception. The world is amazing and flat earth is jewing the grand architect for the credit they deserve.

Most good arguments for it are made by people who know all this but twist it to trick the ignorant. Then, when presented with math they don't reply because they know the truth.

Your world is flat
Aha, you fell off
Hoping that the laws of gravity will bring you back to Earth
If not, OK
Your words fall lighter than air so float away
And disappear into a black hole sun/son
And disappear into a black hole sun/son

>>19493199
>Spheres are the most efficient way to organize matter.
NOPE
Torus is.

>>19493254
The only natural toruses I can think of are energy fields. But nothing physical.

>>19493265
>energy fields
>nothing physical

someone hasn't been paying attention to his special relativity classes i see

>>19491909
You're the one making a positive claim, so you're the one who has to provide proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xX0OdBaYVs

globalists btfo,what say you now globeheads???

>>19491949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATrgLGc-_s

Pick up something academic, and prove yourself wrong.

>>19492014
Im too stupid for that prove it with easy examples that any 2 year old would understand
Therefor your argument doesn't count
Nice try globefag

>>19491909
>Prove me wrong
Sunsets. QED.

>>19492820
Present your experiment.

>>19491909
Here is something to think about. If the earth is actually round, how do Australians stay on the ground? Checkmate, Round Earthers

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>>19491945
LOOK RITH THEIR YOURE SCRUBB

>>19493727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IObbK3a9dvU

>>19493727
>doesn't match the horizon
flat earth btfo

>>19493735
SHUTT UP
SHOW FOR I YOURE PROOVES

>>19491909
One thing: The original form for all the things in the universe are spheres/globes, what tf makes do you think that planets are different?