How can a book make you insane? What's inside the Necronomicon?

>>19483101

A lot of bullshit that a jew wrote to make some money while wu tan clan was doing the same writting awful songs about a non existing "nigga war"

>>19483101
Considering the history and modern times we can say that the bible and quran turn people crazy.

>>19483101
>What's inside the Necronomicon?
It's a list of occupants of the lost (or destroyed) ossuary at Constantinople, potentially including the real remains of St Peter and therefore of great concern to the Vatican, which has an obvious interest in maintaining the belief that said remains rest under St Peter's Basilica.

>>19483101
Necronomicon drives people insane because it reveals just how insignificant humans are. In other words, whatever is written inside is the truth.

>>19483101
Well, you supposedly can only read it in your dreams, i.e. Lovecraft. So, most people would consider you insane to even make such a claim.

Then eventually if you lack confidence, you lose your own grasp on reality.

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>“The nethermost caverns,” wrote the mad Arab, “are not for the fathoming of eyes that see; for their marvels are strange and terrific. Cursed the ground where dead thoughts live new and oddly bodied, and evil the mind that is held by no head. Wisely did Ibn Schacabao say, that happy is the tomb where no wizard hath lain, and happy the town at night whose wizards are all ashes. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the very worm that gnaws; till out of corruption horrid life springs, and the dull scavengers of earth wax crafty to vex it and swell monstrous to plague it. Great holes secretly are digged where earth’s pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl.”

>>19483655
What a horrible writer.

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>>19483101
>How can a book make you insane?
Several works of religious or political propaganda can be convincing enough to drive people to violent insanity. I see absolutely nothing strange about this concept.

Though given that the Cthulhu Mythos amounts to "It was aliens," I find it incredibly strange for anyone to go mad from that revelation. But maybe we're just desensitized.

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>"It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life. And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former state."

>>19483101
Another Necronomicon.

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>“Nor is it to be thought that man is either the oldest or the last of earth’s masters, or that the common bulk of life and substance walks alone. The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them, They walk serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen. Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth’s fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread. By Their smell can men sometimes know Them near, but of Their semblance can no man know, saving only in the features of those They have begotten on mankind; and of those are there many sorts, differing in likeness from man’s truest eidolon to that shape without sight or substance which is Them."

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>>19483662
when your name is "the mad whatever" your prose isn't expected to be top tier
I though it was a good read
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>>19483655
Source?

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>>19483673
disregard my post I'm retarded
of course it's lovecraft

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>>19483672
>"They walk unseen and foul in lonely places where the Words have been spoken and the Rites howled through at their Seasons. The wind gibbers with Their voices, and the earth mutters with Their consciousness. They bend the forest and crush the city, yet may not forest or city behold the hand that smites. Kadath in the cold waste hath known Them, and what man knows Kadath? The ice desert of the South and the sunken isles of Ocean hold stones whereon Their seal is engraven, but who hath seen the deep frozen city or the sealed tower long garlanded with seaweed and barnacles? Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly. Iä! Shub-Niggurath! As a foulness shall ye know Them. Their hand is at your throats, yet ye see Them not; and Their habitation is even one with your guarded threshold. Yog-Sothoth is the key to the gate, whereby the spheres meet. Man rules now where They ruled once; They shall soon rule where man rules now. After summer is winter, and after winter summer. They wait patient and potent, for here shall They reign again.”

>>19483677
The second quote is from C.A. Smith's The Return of the Sorcerer.

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>>19483688
thank you

>>19483101
the book doesn't make you insane -what you learn from it will lead you to encounter otherworldly beings that will drive you crazy but the book itself wont, unless your already a feebleminded idiot

>>19483101
The latent human mind is weak because of it's limited exposure to certain things. Anything beyond it's comprehension can overtax it in a variety of different ways. Knowledge, longing or the pursuit thereof can break an unprepared mind. Thinking of it this way, the Necronomicon is basically knowledge of things the mind cannot comprehend and the more you try to comprehend it the more damage it does to the mind.

What is insanity? What is madness? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again repeatedly and expecting different results but this is a base definition in my opinion.

What else could madness and insanity be than something you are unable to correlate, understand or believe? Something that is out of your sphere of comprehension. Something that baffles the mind in such a way as to completely and utterly exhaust it beyond it's natural limits. It is knowledge that isn't meant for mankind and it is knowledge that isn't meant to exist.

Up is down, down is up, left is right, right is left. Vertigo, nausea, blindness, sight, confusion and understanding.

>>19483635
I mean science does that pretty well on it's own.

>>19483101
If you right click it, you gain 1 passive skill point.

>>19483101
There's nothing in the Necronomicon. It's a fantasy book that is an amalgamation of numerous occult books throughout history that has been flavored with Lovecraft's ideas on outsider beings.

Read some philosophy books and you might lose your mind with existential dread if you don't have someone to help put it in context for you so you can digest it.

>>19483101
>The necronomicon drives people insane
Confirmed for never actually reading Lovecraft, plenty of people in his stories have read it without going insane

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>>19484421
I believe there are certain passages that are much harder to digest and that can drive people into what we call insanity as they can't mentally deal with what they read.

Try figuring out how Yog-Sothoth is the gate and the key at the same time while also being conterminous with all of time without going a little weird in the head.

>>19484475
If there was you'd think Lovecraft would have included it in at least one of his stories.

Really the Necronomicon was just a device in the story made to tell the reader that "this characters knows a little something something about the occult" considering a lot of characters in Lovecraft's larger short stories were into occultism or some similar shit, not surprising considering a huge chunk of his characters seemed to be self inserts.

>>19483108
>to make money

Literally remained a nobody till after death. Why you talk shit when you know jack shit.

>>19483101
It's just a literary device/prop lovecraft used to connect his fictional lore, just a made up book inspired by real world occult texts, which are really no different from any religious text.
Theoretically it's actual content just be stories and spells/rituals about the old gods in his fictional universe, and of course anyone who knew anything about them go mad as is the trope.

>>19483101
It provides all the answers with none of the lessons or questions.

>>19484475
Nope, it's simply a common misconception born from the fact that there are many fictional books in the Cthulhu Mythos.
The one that makes you insane is The King in Yellow , written(or inspired, it's not entirely clear) by Hastur. The Necronomicon is the most secure to read, and it's bad reputation in the books come from the fact that you CAN read it without being or becoming insane (they even study it in most universities of the setting, to show how ancient myths were pretty crazy).

>>19484640
Curious, how about The Book of Eibon? I vaugely remember it being a bit fucked up.

this guy >>19483108 got BTFO'd by this guy >>19484521

>>19484673
It is, supposedly more thant the others since it describes what the Old Ones actually are, making half of the book an obscure rant.The other half is a grimoire, possibly more insane since it talks about some spells related to Hastur.
However it doesn't appear often as the others, and almost every time anyone who knows something about it dies horrybly to some cult of Nyarlathotep, so most of the infos on this one comes from the Extended Mythos.

that was not the right thread at all sorry

>>19484640
Well, Hastur is one being that strives to drive humans insane and seems to delight in it. In a lot of the stories just simply seeing a lot of the other wordly things is enough to drive people to madness simply because they can't comprehend what they are seeing.

>>19484765
Nyarlathotep is another being that seems to purposefully drive humans to madness and really delight in it.

Some religious fag got him self enslaved by them djinn demon fairy sub human things and wrote a shitty book genines are only good for binding to talimans and that's it fuck worshipping them ugly fucks

>>19485481
Ugh, don't bind spirits. It's a dick move overall and just leads to pissed off entities that will take out their anger on others around them. Rather you should work to create a dialogue with what you summon and build a working relationship between the two of you.

>>19485700
no, ghosts are pricks

>>19484521
>>19484761
The fact that he was a nobody does not negate that he wrote to make money. He sold the stories he wrote and that's how he made a living.

Naah I don't wanna talk to spirits they fill your head with fairy tales fuck religion faggie shit Satan is just a false flag for the light so when it removes him they can start a new prison religion

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>>19483101
step up your game op

>>19483101
Necronomicon ≠ Necronomicon Ex Mortis.
Some things are hidden from you dumbasses for a reason.

>>19483101
the goetia is meant to bind demons. the necronomicon is meant to free them.

>>19483101
>How can a book make you insane?
The notion of losing one's mind from seeing hideous creatures or gruesome events is perfectly logical -- the effects of psychological trauma adequately describe that well enough. But as you ask: How can any book be terrifying enough to break the reader's mind, especially if the reader is likely inclined to dismiss the contents as mythological mumbo jumbo?

However, consider that nowhere in the body of Lovecraft's work does anyone actually go mad from reading a book. The unfortunate graduate student Danforth had "dared to go completely through that worm-riddled copy of the Necronomicon," yet did not go mad until his final glimpse over the Mountains of Madness. Wilmarth was also intimately familiar with the book, but did not lose control until he learned the secret of the Whisperer in Darkness. Armitage was shocked and affected by reading Wilbur Whateley's coded journal, but only after witnessing Whateley's death . In other words, the blasphemous secrets inside a Mythos tome do not drive their readers insane: readers of Mythos tomes are driven insane when they encounter evidence in the real world that proves the blasphemous secrets are true. As Daniel Harms puts it in his essay, "Then Necronomicon in Literature":

Lovecraft never stated that the Necronomicon drove its readers mad. Rather, when the characters in his stories experienced uncanny events, the Necronomicon allowed them to place their experiences within a terrifying system of belief, and in doing so hastened their descent into insanity.

The secrets held within Mythos tomes are not in and of themselves destructive, and most will dismiss the arcane ramblings and hideous stories as fiction, or the ravings of the insane. The damage to the reader's psyche comes from realising that the contents of a Mythos tome are true, and that, by extension, the investigator's world view is flawed or inherently wrong. The more the reader knows, the greater the danger.

>>19486759
(cont.)

Those unfortunate enough to see the tome borne out as true will have been redpilled on it; experts in obscure lore will realise that many of the details are too convincing to be ignored. More sheltered readers, on the other hand, might read the tome without any loss of sanity at all.

There are, however, Mythos texts that fall outside of the above such a system. The repellent King in Yellow is one of these, a book so strange that anyone who reads it dies or goes mad. The Revelations of Glaaki, the Black Book of the Skull, and Wilbur Whateley's journal are a few likely candidates of outright sanity corrosive texts.

>>19486219
wtf I hate John Lennon now

>>19486764
you guys must smoke alot of crack

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>>19483108
>A lot of bullshit that a jew wrote to make some money
You need to go fuck off and die for you blantant misinformation.

H.P. Lovecraft is a 100% /pol/-tier hero of lily white decent; his very works revel in the feeling of fear and unrest at the discovery of the horror which lay beneath the decaying American society that persist to this day. These sub-textual layers of meaning are the authentic and prefered way of reading, which is evidenced as the desired ideology that was confirmrmed by the author's own essays and published letters, where he denounced the destruction of American civilization because of massive immigration.

Joshi (2001: 184) himself admits that Lovercraft "was attracted by the fascist ideology". Lovecraft vouches for the obvious superiority of the Teutonic Aryan race, and describes the real horrors of miscegenation and, generally speaking, the intervention of subcreatures incoming from beyond the American borders and taking over local communities.

Lovecraft was waking people up.

>>19486786
>smoke alot of crack
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/hy.aspx

do ppl kno that lovecraft was a fiction writer?

>>19486219
Monarch mind control program. It was a CIA job. The key word or words were read, and then their sleeper agent was activated.

>>19486787
Now rewrite that comment so you don't sound like a cringe-worthy turboautist.

>>19486802
H.P. Lovecraft is not of Jewish decent.

>>19486802
>Please remove your egresses examples of wrongthink, Anon.
Facts never got in your way now, have they?

>>19486833
You missed my point completely (and still sound like a raging faggot).

>>19486842
>missed my point completely
Ah, of course. The on-point, unmissable bit of advice you've so generously provided, so that I do not blunder, in order to save face in public. Truly you are a good and earnest friend to be relied on.

>>19486842
The fact here is that Lovecraft would consider you a subhuman.

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>>19486855
Segwaying onto another topic off from this: If he had access to the internet today, good ol' H.P. would find new things to be writing about.

>>19486851
Kys nigger
>>19486855
In which way, shape or form is this to concern me?

>>19486865
Kys, you tripple semitico-mongoloid niggerlet. I hope you go back to inhabiting that awful cesspool you call a home, and resume shanking all the other nebulous adumbrations of the pithecanthropoid and amoebal sort you regard as kinsmen.

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>>19486871
Hows... easy on the purple.

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>Typical fucking subhuman, slithering and oozing in and on the filthy streets like they own the place. Suggestive of nothing but infesting worms or deep-sea unnamabilities.