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The case for ancient ruins on Mars.

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Recently a congressman made headlines and subjected himself to media ridicule when he brought up the possibility that advanced civilizations had once lived on Mars.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., asked a panel of space science experts testifying before the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology on Tuesday if it's possible there was an advanced civilization on Mars in the past.

http://www.newsjs.com/url.php?p=http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/338374/dana-rohrabacher-asks-nasa-about-martians/

Speculation about possibility of intelligent life on Mars is nothing new, of course, though the notion was dismissed by NASA after the Viking mission. Not everyone who worked on the project agreed with the official conclusion, however. Starting with those early orbital images of anomalous features in the Cydonia region, a growing number of scientists around the world have been challenging the idea that Mars is a barren, lifeless desert, asserting instead that there was once a thriving civilization on Mars that left behind giant structures that have long since fallen into ruin. This post will attempt to make that argument featuring a number of the clearest examples of anomalies yet photographed by NASA on Mars and elsewhere in our solar system.

First things first, let's examine the definitions of pareidolia and pattern recognition according to Wikipedia.

Pareidolia is a psychological phenomenon in which the mind responds to an image by perceiving a familiar pattern where none exists. Examples of these would be seeing shapes in the clouds,or the face of Jesus in a tortilla chip.

Pattern recognition (in psychology as opposed to computer science) describes a cognitive process that matches information from a stimulus with information retrieved from memory.

Let us begin with an anomaly imaged on the surface that is NOT an example of pareidolia:
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https://i.imgur.com/NSULKCY.jpg

Another view of the same object:

https://i.imgur.com/FBUvZ5Q.jpg

Three lines of equal length forming a pattern I'm sure you all recognize, an equilateral triangle etched into the surface of a rock, the base of which is in parallel alignment with the ground. There can be no argument for pareidolia against a simple geometrical figure, a thing either has the shape of a circle, square, triangle, cube or sphere etc. or it doesn't. The question then becomes, how did it get there? The In order to fit in to the current model according to NASA, the rock would have had to have been formed with the triangle already there, any natural process that could result in such a symbol etched into stone would require a much more dynamic collection of forces, having these forces come together to form even a simple geometrical symbol by wearing away the surface of a stone in such a specific way is so far outside the realm of probability that there can only remain one simple conclusion, namely, some intelligence put it there.

Game over, in other words. There was intelligent life on Mars, and may be there still. And yet, the existence of artifacts and ruins on Mars does not necessarily mean that the beings who created them were aliens. The simplest, most probable explanation is that they were us, humans. When you consider the rapid growth of technology that enabled us to go from heavier than air powered flight to landing on the moon within a single lifespan, the idea that human culture had once colonized our solar system before being wiped out by natural disaster (or war) seems quite plausible. In light of the evidence, this scenario is perhaps the most comforting to consider, without triggering the fear of hostile alien invaders from Mars that has been a part of western culture for over a century.
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Some more examples of trianglular anomalies from the rover pictures.

https://i.imgur.com/4hdqU9D.jpg.

https://i.imgur.com/4pdmxYe.jpg.

https://i.imgur.com/r374dyz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aLpxFkV.jpg

One more, from comet 67-p.

https://i.imgur.com/HmhDX5W.jpg

Now that we are clear on the difference between pareidolia and pattern recognition, let's begin with some other examples of anomalies containing simple geometric features in a way that would be very difficult to explain as a result of natural processes.

90 degree right angles cut into stone blocks that form vertices. Many of these seen in the rover photos, just a few sampled here.

https://imgur.com/cYbpvcz

https://imgur.com/CWMtgDo

https://imgur.com/ocDu3FG

https://imgur.com/0ITUSFQ

https://imgur.com/qEbxcA7

https://i.imgur.com/0vEaItU.jpg
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Doorways, or rectangular cave entrances if you prefer. Can't recall ever seeing a naturally formed cave entrance looking like this on Earth though.

https://i.imgur.com/UnSSL7X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FmS5BFO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/V0UHGS9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uVqDq8b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LyhuYYB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TEgEqPz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8AMBXH4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LyhuYYB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zJJtrEB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pXX5N0X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HFb465S.jpg
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Boxes, with right angle geometry, some crumbling with age.

https://i.imgur.com/Gioxk8R.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/y8Lb2yC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jtjlrlj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CIGJcUq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1ieWKJq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wQIfpZQ.jpg

Round holes in objects.

https://i.imgur.com/MYhdUmR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/c59nSGr.jpg

Barbell, or wheels on an axle.

https://i.imgur.com/BlPx48S.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LD7PXo7.jpg

Ring.

https://i.imgur.com/2q1H6GR.jpg
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Mt. Sharp 'base'. Looks like relatively recent construction. Could this be part of what Robert David Steele was talking about?

https://i.imgur.com/xzarcW5.png

https://i.imgur.com/vBGZXnn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kqbuXkS.jpg

The 'Jupiter II' spacecraft from the original TV series Lost in Space', perched on the edge of a cliff, imaged by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. I haven't yet seen a calibration of scale, but for this thing to be imaged by the MRO it would have to be pretty big.

https://i.imgur.com/9ncAVsI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/egKSz0W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/V0Ej7mx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1K2YIxJ.jpg
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Letters, numbers, symbols. This is where things get interesting. I don't care to speculate about how these symbols match some western cultures on earth but it's impossible to think about without imagining all sorts of science fiction tropes like time travel. At this point, however, no theory can be dismissed as ridiculous, every possibility should be open for debate, at least until the authorities step in and tell us what to think again. One thing's for sure, there are some fans of ZZ Top on the red planet. Can't say I'm surprised about that.

https://i.imgur.com/RidHQSt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/INpRqoV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CIVC7xE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6fA9B7w.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8aRRnHx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RKT4Hpa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eDr1uuh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PTtodMz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FtD74b1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xTWzlpe.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LNkiSkH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/G5hKgZL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ze7NC7U.jpg
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Art carved into a cliff face, a lizard and a bearded man.

https://i.imgur.com/4TUWtLw.jpg

More art, this one picked up the moniker 'buddha statue' for some reason, though I see a woman breastfeeding a swaddled infant. A very low res cropped version of this photo can be seen on Wikipedia's pareidolia page.

https://imgur.com/ClW3dkl

https://i.imgur.com/M9zpan9.jpg

Reptilian humanoid carved figures. Note the bullet shaped breasts on the snake 'god' and the carved penis by the reptilian bust. Just what kind of people made these?

https://i.imgur.com/GeUJGrg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UTiSvMs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JK3YcMt.jpg

Twin Snakes carving.

https://i.imgur.com/to8L6cW.jpg

'Angel' with one wing, again carved into a cliff.

https://i.imgur.com/ULbcENP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TwUAVlZ.jpg
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Boat Hulls. Shaped like small boats on Earth.

https://i.imgur.com/w8ARGAw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Z6DS2s5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2KYmh8Z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GUbiPWv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jLKX9cI.jpg

Tanks. This is the planet of war, after all.

https://i.imgur.com/u7IkSDs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ePmvt82.jpg

Spoon.

https://i.imgur.com/DN4Ij30.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IottaZ3.jpg

Space mountain, looking somewhat worse for wear.

https://i.imgur.com/sSLjigh.jpg

Two Sarcophagus, one looks Egyptian, the other western, maybe a statue.

https://i.imgur.com/j2UtzQX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dGw49rc.jpg
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Buildings. Or objects that look like buildings.

https://i.imgur.com/SY6jRzm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yQ17B16.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ha0dUFo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xFSH5R8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Myui3Dr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dC88QVi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MwF6Wwa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/M3j1G3O.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TauAA5z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/31pNqJw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AGINpZm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UJnFn4r.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/B3ROi3A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/diRgfWM.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/I9Gcmxd?r
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Water, both Stagnant and flowing.

https://i.imgur.com/3yOVZu7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zBrgbwf.jpg.

https://i.imgur.com/CPunXyf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JJZPi2J.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tSfTKD1.jpg

Screws. Unlikely that they simply fell out of the rover and partially screwed themselves into the ground.

https://i.imgur.com/NX1oFo7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PbPb2pB.jpg

'Dog' and dog like statue or monument.

https://i.imgur.com/kYBuC89.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/I0xMF3W.jpg

Discs and round objects.

https://i.imgur.com/1QcAl0R

https://i.imgur.com/UxZAzRk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yqeX2Tl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IGxdBTw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/psa5DMl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KIzGUxt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/E7eWMUu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BdmPBOk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tacn1E6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GUk0gZt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6TotX9v.jpg
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Crosses. I guess Jesus died for the sins of the martians too? Can't see this stirring up any controversy /s.

https://i.imgur.com/8EpuXX7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/29OcoPU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CE41LQy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uY5mEhN.jpg

People. Humanoids anyway. Some look like the grey aliens we have become familiar with. Some look human, but too small to be human as we know them, or so was previously thought https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_skeleton. Could they be humans as we don't know them? Cousins, descendants or perhaps ancestors? I have no idea, but if what we see here is real, the implications are staggering.

https://i.imgur.com/bC39BNP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NyE2L4B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/n9E671g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XbtLydm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/d6YcFCs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0dn2t7r.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/g8MijAD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T2SWq6V.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aD0cuv5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZFvWSNJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tO7TkyY.jpg
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Humanoid couple, apparently dead. Note the basket.

https://i.imgur.com/8EpuXX7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GrNsplR.jpg

Fossils.

https://i.imgur.com/lEbDC39.png

https://i.imgur.com/aGt3yzY.jpg

Dead animal, apparently feline. The round hole in the centre of the corpse may indicate cause of death, though it does open up a whole new set of questions.

https://i.imgur.com/OJmraY9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7TWKusW.jpg

Footprints in the dust.

https://i.imgur.com/g267uEf.jpg

Critters. Can't make footprints without feet.

https://i.imgur.com/LiBXevC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/meEHr79.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2BITfGP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tMNuySI.jpg

Dead Pig, apparently butchered along with some other critters.

https://i.imgur.com/TKQYjOw.jpg
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super cool story bro
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Motorcycles or similar vehicle shaped formations, with riders. Perhaps they been painted over by software to blend into the background?

https://i.imgur.com/pajralk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X4defTC.jpg

Pyramids, or Tetrahedrons.

https://i.imgur.com/f2yOvuw.png (Lunar Pyramid)

https://i.imgur.com/SQM7WLC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BDbwRG0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WxN6lGL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lGaJ0uQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PpC0oTJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iFNHvCl.jpg

Cars.

https://i.imgur.com/Lq834hw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SJ9tB8B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vaMC2QT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KqSVS3E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NfKkP0L.jpg
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Bones.

https://i.imgur.com/7xkbpSj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3HBDVQg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OWFw8ng.png

https://i.imgur.com/4jT3l1D.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aduENb0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JUIJPSb.jpg

Brick walls.

https://i.imgur.com/ZBiaD05.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TG6rKeY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KMtaiMx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/R04OkWd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6ZBwANB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DH20Ogg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jnb4uZG.jpg

Gravestone.

https://i.imgur.com/eUIh7WF.jpg

Wire Brush.

https://i.imgur.com/aX03E7g.jpg

Not sure what these could have been, but they look artificial.

https://i.imgur.com/ansZOK9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/djcSY1f.jpg

https://imgur.com/EOQrOku

https://i.imgur.com/NdauPME.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XX9oq16.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uvXXGAf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F9hYOLp.jpg

https://imgur.com/EOQrOku

The most compelling Lunar Anomalies in my collection. The last two are from the soviet lunar probe of the 70's.

https://imgur.com/eCRLQxN

http://imgur.com/7m013CZ

http://imgur.com/02lxnNj

http://imgur.com/dQt8PfB

http://imgur.com/qN4mAIZ

https://imgur.com/ei4h1v5
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And lastly, the #58 shows up in orbital photos of both Mars and our Moon.

https://imgur.com/vQTWMbq

https://i.imgur.com/AxuedrZ.jpg

Conclusions:

There once existed a thriving technological civilization on Mars, sometime when the planet had oceans, a very long time ago.

Mars currently has water, vegetation, wildlife, and people. Not human beings like us, but people nonetheless.

It's impossible for NASA to not know this. There is good reason to think that they are using image processing software to paint over the best artifacts. Whatever happened to Mars apparently created a massive, possibly planet wide debris field, artifacts are plentiful and difficult to conceal.
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So the American government lies to the people of the world again, this time about the most important discovery in recorded human history, knowledge that will turn everything we took for granted as the truth about ourselves and render it the quaint backwards notions of a primitive, developing culture. I can't blame them for keeping such a powerful secret, how many of us are truly ready to confront the truth of our existence on a heretofore unimaginably cosmic scale? There exist similar anomalies elsewhere NASA has looked in the solar system, including Luna (Earth's Moon), Venus, Pluto, Phobos, Eros and Comet 67-p. We may not the big kids on this block, and almost certainly aren't the most developed species in our local neighbourhood. We aren't even the smartest species on our own planet. Cetaceans have highly developed brains that dwarf ours in size and capacity, and they have no technology at all, yet their languages are much more sophisticated than what currently passes for language among humans. We need to get over our collective sense of the human race's self importance.

Let's say that there is definitely a race of tiny humanoids living on Mars. How is the arrival of their neighbors from the third planet going to affect them? What's the most likely thing to happen, given that our civilization currently is a plutocracy ruled by a feudal cabal of ruthless psychopaths? Will they be given any say at all with what happens to them? If our leaders view the people of our planet with a range of feelings from indifference to contempt, how will they feel about a race of Lilliputians?
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>>19483022
>that is NOT an example of pareidolia
Yes it is, in fact everything here is until you can show me a good picture of it.
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The history of Mars is intertwined with the history of Earth. Has to be. The meaning of Cairo can't be just coincidence. I'm not up to speed with the hidden history side of this story, but I've seen and heard enough. Not that I don't have my own opinion on these matters. Some expertly qualified professionals have opined that the cataclysm that ripped away Mars's oceans (and reduced the fifth planet to what is now the asteroid belt) happened 65 million years ago, when the dinosaurs were extinguished on Earth. I may be just a self educated layman, but judging from the condition of the artifacts uncovered, this seems like too long an estimate. Ten thousand years or so seems more probable, considering that many of these objects are lying in the open and are still recognizable. Assuming there hasn't been several civilizations that have risen and fallen in the meantime, which is starting to look likely.

The world as we know it is on the cusp of disappearing forever, and it's about time, we have a much needed, better one to create, for the sake of all, not just humankind. It's time to put on our grownup pants and start dealing with the mess we've made.

This collection was gathered mostly from Facebook groups on the subject as well as online. I have had a few issues with getting the entirety of the collection onto Imgur to share, the program crashes frequently during large uploads and is very difficult to sort and organize. New photos will be added to this folder as I get them.
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Is that you, MoonMoon?
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I'm not opposed to the idea that Mars could have once harboured life, but I do have one question.
It's been billions of years since the core cooled and the magnetic field collapsed.
How could ANY monuments built by an intelligent race survive such harsh conditions for that amount of time?
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>>19483551
>The meaning of Cairo can't be just coincidence.
They named a city after a god of war, it's not that big a coincidence. Even the Arabic name is "the Conqueror".
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I'm not particularly interested in having a debate about the meaning of these images, but encouraging debate and raising awareness is why I'm doing this. I'm sure many of you will have an extremely negative reaction to the idea presented here, by all means feel free to analytically slice me to pieces. I'm confident that most people are able to ascertain the truth when they see it with their own eyes. You would have a better chance convincing me that the great pyramid of Giza was a natural formation than some of the objects in these photos.
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>>19483551
Well, we aren't gonna find out much until people stop electing retarded oranges and believing in multiple ever so slightly different magical sky wizards.
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>>19483571
If there is no atmosphere i guess things can last for a very long time. Furthermore, are we 100% certain that the timescale presented (billions of years) is correct?
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>>19483668
Go choke on a decaf latte, reddit Vick
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>>19483668
How do you spot a liberal? Don't worry, you could be talking about fuckin martian space rocks, but they'll be sure to derail the conversation into politicized dogshit.
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>>19485266
dubs 'o' truth
>>19483668
Seriously man I dont believe this shit but it's a fucking neat as hell thing to think about dont pollute it with muh freedums
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Would be cool as fuck if this were true, and not even that far fetched. But desu mate I dont see shit in these images. Two bodies and a basket? Could be a pile of shit as far as I see
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>>19483571

It's only been around 75,000 years. The estimates are based on the assumption that the core cooled for natural causes, which happened over a great span of time, as they would on Earth. While in reality, the loss of the planet's atmosphere happened quickly, was caused by man, and the core's cooling was thus dramatically quickened.
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Wasn't there something about isotopes on Mars that could only have been created through nuclear explosions?

Problem imo is if an advanced civilisation were on Mars, even millions of years would've let traces on the surface. We don't see any patterns on the suface, just random rocks that look like objects.
Those objects would've been for long desintegrated but big structures, cities and roads...
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>>19487235

Wind erosion, m8. It's all buried in sand. And there are more prominent ruins but obviously, you won't get to see the best parts. All the public landers have been dropped in places where there used to be sea or lakes or deserts, mountains, far away from the major cities.
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I was there, I remember the world we use to call Maakaa. Then Shiva came with the lightning power of 1,000,000 suns. The scar is still evident today. Most of the people on Maakaa looked like what you would imagine them to look like when you read the Hobbit story. The truth is not fiction, there really was a surface world on Mars, they still exist but after the Spanish wiped out most of the North American Continent to find Gold, only a handful remain. In Atlanta Georgia there is a underground entrance at what you now call Stone Mountain.
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>>19483022
>NOT an example of pareidolia
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hey marsfags, remember that the surface gravity there is only 37% of what it is here. i have a hard time buying that these pictures of people / statues make any sense, cause we would look way different if we evolved under those conditions. also, martians colonizing earth would seem really difficult, like if we tried to walk around on a planet with 3 times our gravity, imagine all the health problems of long term exposure. i dont think this, but it would make more sense to me to say that humanity came from venus, dropped a colony here in africa, then another on mars. some of those pics are really cool though
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The CIA already remote viewed an ancient mars society
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf
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>>19483571
Underground
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>>19483022
This is LARP of the highest order.
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>>19487262
Do they take infrared images of the mars surface?
Because it's a new method to find buried buildings.
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>>19483028
>https://imgur.com/cYbpvcz
>https://imgur.com/CWMtgDo
>https://imgur.com/ocDu3FG
>https://imgur.com/0ITUSFQ
>https://imgur.com/qEbxcA7
>https://i.imgur.com/0vEaItU.jpg
Make a album you mong
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>>19487512
This is why we like animu girls. They remind us of our pre earth bodies before we sent our genetic proto fetuses to earth because we destroyed mars in a nuclear war. You know the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs? That was our seed ship.
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>>19483022
An upset fake halves the countryside.
Every warning glove retracts above the axis.
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>>19483022
big if real?
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Jesus oP

Make a fucking album!
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>no smoking gun images
>even the crosses are all different styles
I'm not totally convinced, which is to say I am not entirely inconvinced either.

>>19487148
Source?
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>>19487602
A live action role-play? What makes you so sure this is real-time?
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>>19483022
Okay, check this out.
Any photos you see of Mars are heavily edited images from remotes places on Earth. Deserts and places like that.
Planets aren't what you think they are. Neither is Earth.
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>>19487330
feck off ye shill
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>>19483022

cool rock ahmed
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>>19490948
They could literally do a more convincing job "faking" mars from earth than they do hiding the shit that's actually up there.
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>>19483041
Damn. I'd like to hear the official explanation gor this.
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