Tell me "The Truth" /x/

>>19449975
But I only know an approximation.

>>19449975
It's unknowable.

>>19449975
traps are gay

u r fgt

>>19449975
Start sucking up to God. If you're gonna kiss ass might as well do it to the ultimate power that can help you the most.

In case you're not aware every magic ritual and every belief system out there is out to get you.
Even gnosticism (which is the true religion) has been tampered with so you believe a few lies and crash and burn, I will tell you what to believe later on.
We live among a bunch of dicks that are trying to get your soul and spirit to die, that's basically it, no really, that's basically it.
Do not join any religion.
Do not join any spiritual group.
Do not accept spiritual teachings.
Do not make friends.
Do not meditate if invited.
Believe only gnosticism and adapted to this situation, that is, ignore the mythos, just assume there's a dark god surrounded by dark pricks who wanna git you. There's a god above god who can save you.

Last but not least, I will tell you the truth: God actually does dislike fags. And I mean the real one.

>>19449985
>>19449987
Op likes traps confirmed.

>>19449990
Listen to this guy. Few actually are capable of reaching this level of awareness and understanding.

>>19449975
The truth about
'lluminati
'deamons
Women
Aliens
Ijstdntknow man

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>>19449990
God is a faggot
yavheh sucks dick

Everything is God.

'Evil' is stuff that doesn't want to be a part of God. It's like a mind virus. Of course you can't exist separate from God, so Evil is working towards non-existence.

Nothing really matters...

>>19449975

P Diddy is part of a gay mafia that run the music industry, other top record producers are also part of this mafia who abuse their artists. They use blackmail to keep artists in line.

P Diddy, Lil Wayne, Kanye and Jay Z among others worship the opposite of what's natural.

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>>19449990
>MUH GNOSTICISM

>"Do not join any religion."
"gnosticism (which is the true religion)"

>"Do not accept spiritual teachings."
"Believe only gnosticism"
You are giving spiritual teachings right now guy.

>"Do not make friends."
Yeah, just don't make friends. Great advice.

>"Do not meditate if invited."
You don't need permission nor invitation to meditate. Meditation can even be laying in bed and focusing, in a way.

>"There's a god above god who can save you."
I see.

"God actually does dislike fags. And I mean the real one."
So you've spoken with your "real one" and he told you that, right?

Dismissed

>>19449975

Only you can know the truth

>>19450223
He isn't even a true Gnostic.
A true gnostic doesn't give a shit about your religion and doesn't give a shit about trying to convert others.

>>19450233
I thought so. Just wanted to point out hypocrisy / manipulation so others don't get misled

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>>19450223
Here fag, I actually use curses against obvious archons.

That must be 0'5 yahwist cents deposited in your archonic account to come here fight against truth.

I once listened to faggots like you: ended up posessed by an archon and spiritually chained, so now I preach this.

Good riddance faggot, I hope the curse gives you hell, because if it were in your hands you'd wreck everyone interested in this info.

Do make sure to come tell us how I'm not a true gnostic because gnostics have to hide in an underground tunnel never sharing their views, and do be sure to request that I present you with a book because gnostics must follow books instead of personal experience and actual learnings, fuck common sense among living surrounded by archons, you gotta practice what your enemies teach.

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>>19450484
>I curse Archons
LMAO who do you think you are, Seth?
You aren't even a true Gnostic if you like to be this belligerent and hostile against whoever ideologically opposes you.
And fyi I've been an Archon myself, you just like to LARP.
Also who said nothing about a book? Tsk, tsk, bad gnostic trying to ironize about Nag Hammadi, without the book what would you be? Oh right, just another christcuck.
>t. Valentinian-raised anon

>>19449975
haqqikat

>>19449975
Objective truth is the sum total of subjective truth.
You are a subject of the universe.
Objective truth is subjectively unknowable.
Your purpose is to find your subjective truth.
Your purpose is to experience the universe as 'you'.
Noone can tell you how to be you because no one has ever been you before.
Just go for it.

The world doesn't end. Ever.

>>19450941
There is no subjective truth. Subjective truth still hinges on some property that is objectively true in a certain place. Subjective truth while non-existent is just easier to understand and let's degenerates get away with being idiots.

>>19450196
anyone can see
nothing really matters to meeeeeee

I came from the old universe. I was there when this universe was created.

>>19451164
Does your soulmate still fucking your brother?

>>19451169
No. They did it once. My heart is broken.

>>19451169
Sorry man, i was trolling. Really shitty situation tho.
Good luck but please seek medical attention youre delusional as fuck.

>>19450192
i like thisa

God is real. It's up to you to find the path to him least obscured with man's greed.

>>19449975
The truth doesn't matter/exist when people disagree and suppress it.
Even when there's evidence on the contrary.

Hibernia, o paradisiac :) (Sitting)
lā ilāha illā allāh—Peace, Love, Unity, Respect (Kneeling)
Lord God, heavenly host,
I pray for a welcome entry into your Domaine:
I pray that every action and behaviour of mine may align directly to and perfectly accord with thine plan for me.
I wish to find a straight, true path, for myself today; thereon for me to follow, eternally.
I pray that I may become entirely ready for thee to remove my shortcomings. May my achievements be acceptable by thine standards.
I pray for thine will to improve me to come about. I pray for a will of my own, composed of a combined power, courage and wisdom of thou.
Envelope myself to pariety and turn it right, just, fit, healthy and fine. Dispel from me what evil doth remain and transmute happiness about this. Put me in the know and mould my servile and basal selves into the perfect ideal. Twist my desires so that I may be of value to the people, places and things caring for me if seeking fulfillment of same.
May I reach a great potential;
I pray for you–hosanna in the highest–to bestow onto me grace and render me able as I do thy will. Also, impart the cunning to use, vitality to drink, motivation to enact thy script, a current of thy choice energies. And the discipline to honor dutyfly any plan which might be mine, onto me – now, and for today. May I look to you in such matters of others, not to be self-centred.
In trust, loyalty, honesty and integrity; I surrender to your divine creative, sustaining and destructive rule and understanding. Corpos Mentis Sanem.
Instill now thine holy directive, my life ensue. (Thirty seconds time given)
One God, forever and ever, Amen
(Standing in proclamation) Hamdu’leh!
Deus in excelsior! Hallelujah!

>>19451212
fagit

>>19451224
You want the real truth, nothing is true and everything is true and those are the only two things that are true mmkay

Samsara exists.

The way out is difficult, but its possible.

Most people are too attached to sense pleasures to bother.

Ignorance, suffering, death and rebirth repeats perpetually until one wakes up to their situation and does something about it.

Nobody wants to hear the truth, because its much easier to stick ones head in the sand, but here it is.

>>19451236
What is this prayer? I can't find it on google.

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>>19451352

>>19449975
Jesus

>>19449988
Which one

>>19449975
All is true.

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>>19450965
In saecula saeculorum.

>>19449975
namajeff

>>19451132
At last someone who understands a bit.

There's only one truth.

That truth is the " "(cannot be called, and is impossible to express) beyond "something and nothing", which the system of the laws of the universe(by which the universe was created) exist by.

If you want to reach the truth, study the universe.
P.s. the science right now has(and is based on) a wrong(not 100% correct, not even 10% correct to be honest) paradigm, so it is impossible for them to study it.

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>>19449975
We are the spiders.

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>>19449975
>>19449988
>Tell me "The Truth" /x/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4XdACQWGwI

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planet Earth has the best weed in galaxy this one.

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The matrix has been getting solved.

you gotta see it to believe it

>>19449975
>Tell me "The Truth" /x/
The Holy Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, the Gospel. Don't think so? Well, here!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEnuanyRKII

>>19451132
Think harder. If I point to the sky and say "this way is up", that is true for me to say. However someone the other side of the planet can make the same statement of truth and point in the opposite direction. Subjectively there can be direction, but the objective universe has no top or bottom. Likewise with good and evil. There exists a scale of enjoyability of experience, this scale is always going to have a top (good) and a bottom (evil) end. You can correctly describe something as evil if it fits into the low end of your scale of enjoyability but nothing is objectively, intrinsically evil.
There are also subjective truths which we subconsciously agree on so as to allow this physical experience to persist. These are the physical forces.

>>19449990
What does God think about pegging? Is it gay if my gf fucks my arse or is he cool with that?

Despite the sex before marriage th
ing.

>>19452528
Are we going to kill Lain again?

>>19450223
>>MUH GNOSTICISM


>Pick a book on magick
>you do magic with the name of god

Yeah nah, obv demiurge.

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>>19453069
Never again.

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>>19453006
Those are not subjective truths though.
For example, the objective truth is, theres no good nor evil, there point of view that goes with or against yours, or an action going with or against a process, from ones limiting their point of view.
Devolution is part of evolution, just as evolution is part of devolution, they are simply one kind of process viewed from different points of view, that is an objective truth of the matter.

In the end the only true objective truth of the matter is, theres a point of view, sometimes equal in value sometimes not(based on circumstance), nevertheless, to this universe it is just a point of view and just an action. From this systems point of view, good and evil are meaning less, while objective truth is what it operates to work.

>>19453333
The quads of truth!

That would be in violation with Global rule #1, anon.

read kant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant

>>19453340
How can I read Kant if I can't read?

>>19449975
we can all shape reality with our minds.

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>>19450484
You sound like you are cursed yourself

Our reality is determined by what we ourselves individually believe without a doubt - you don't have to follow any religion or foreign system as long as you purify yourself and get rid of your doubt, you can believe anything and it will manifest as you wish. I mean anything.

There are role-players on this board, but just as well there are people who have seen some shit and been through shit as there are people with powers and abilities although the grey "safe" middle zone is very large and ample, packed with many more people than these two opposite poles. Yet, there are people with powers who go through it and just as well there are people with powers who pay the negative no mind and live blissfully.

The concepts people come up with through Gnosticism or other religious systems are very real, but if you don't follow them specifically, it's likely whatever calamity they prophesy will not reach you.

In with the good, out with the bad.

Out with the bad, in with the good.

>>19453466
>I'll post a picture, that's how his magic works, gotta be

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>>19453470
>Our reality is determined by what we ourselves individually believe

Surely you always believe that you're winning the lottery and it never fails you amirite?

>>19453474
If doubt didn't exist within me, yeah.

It's worked for smaller things, believe me, but the doubt in winning the lottery is far too great for the likes of my will and belief.

Incredulous bastards are the worst.
That's "The Truth".

The human mind is actually physically incapable to handle the truth from a materialistic point of view. At most the brain is able to handle what is going on, in something the same mass as the brain itself, as everything in that area is moving or having an effect in some way, and at most all of the complexities of the brain is at the same level.^

Materialism is truly the most tripping worldview out there.

>>19452313
The single most powerful one.

>>19453333
>In the end the only true objective truth of the matter is, theres a point of view

No there are many points of view, this discussion can be considered proof of this. The objective truth is that subjectivity exists. Any objective model of reality has to incorporate all subjective phenomena, which includes relativity, for example good and evil

>>19450192
how can you say everything is god, then contradict yourself saying evil is not?

>>19453542
Your problem is that you're mistaking magick (what you achieve through it) by how reality is shaped.

>>19453622
>>19449975
Jesus lives.
The book of Ezra. How He will kill all the people that will go to war against Him when he comes and all the sinners with them.

>>19454430
Evil is simply a low degree of God. Less of God in a certain place if that's easier to understand.

>>19449975
How would you know what the truth is even if it was given to you ?
Leave this truth bs. Its irrelevant

>>19449975
Everything is relative.

>>19449975
Read Ayn Rand's "Anthem".

>>19453470
But life, for me, was involuntary. I didn't shape the world as I grew up, instead I learned about it and it shaped me. I never believed in it and yet I am still here.

>>19454025
You just contradicted yourself,
>The objective truth is that subjectivity exists.
Exactly.

>Any objective model of reality has to incorporate all subjective phenomena, which includes relativity, for example good and evil

Thats because they look at the reality and phenomena from a subjective point of view as an objective one, and by that creating this whole mess.

The subjective truth is that there are good acrions and there are evil actions, from points of view.

Objective truth is that there are actions. Good or evil loses meaning at this point because youre looking at the objective, not subjective view of the objective truth.

Theres no good and theres no evil, theres an action. Period. If you look at it from any kind of point of view, you turn it into subjective that doesnt work at the very core of the matter but around it, avoiding the reality of that matter, which is simply, an action without anything to it but the objective truth of its existence as an action, which it is.

Another example is,
Theres birth and theres death.
Subjective truth will be birth is(/can be) good/evil, death is(/can be) evil/good.
Objective truth is, birth is what birth is, death is what death is, which are a beginning of a process of life and the ending of a process of life, nothing more nothing less.

>>19454025

>>19457354 is correct

An action can be/mean, anything; subjective,
An action must be an action; objective,
Therefore the objective truth,
If an action is not an action to begin with, then theres no action to be/mean, anything.

>>19457354
>Theres no good and theres no evil, theres an action. Period. If you look at it from any kind of point of view, you turn it into subjective
So from what point of view can I see the objective? I cant because as soon as there is a point of view it is subjective. Humans as subjects are fundamentally incapable of objectivity. Any action can only ever be considered from a subjective point of view. Subjective points of view contain relativisms such as good and evil or left and right. Saying that relativisms don't exist in reality is absurd. There really is a direction called 'left' but it is user determined.

>>19457491
You dont have to look/see at the objective from a point of view.
The objective is there whether you see it or not.
The moment you look at it you can either see it for what it is, objectively, without assigning subjectivity to it, or you can look subjectively and by that attempt to complicate or deny the objectivity of the matter.
Regardless of what your subjective view is, the objetivity of that matter stays the same unchanging, otherwise you wouldnt be able to be subjective about it.

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>>19457491
Subjectivity:
There are 4 sticks(left), there are 3 sticks(right).

Objectivity:
There are no sticks to count there, it is something else entirely.

>>19457628
Objectively there is also a perception of 3 sticks and a perception of 4 sticks, why leave that out?

>>19452416
What book is that anon?

Its all true, that is the truth.
What ever you decide is true, is true.
What ever some one else decides is true is also true.

I know it sounds nonsensical, but this is the unadulterated truth.

>>19457738
Mate I've spent this whole thread tryin to get that across, people don't like it! Nice to know I'm not alone though

>>19457628
What I should have said is that your objective description is not objective, it is subjective from the point of view of the impossible object. The objective description would include everything in the image. As I said at the beginning; objective truth is the sum total of subjective truth.

>>19457738

I decide that nothing is true. Hence I've decided your truth for you.

>>19457643
Because thats not the reality/truth of that situation but a view of it. The reality is that there is no actual 'objective' stick there. There are subjective assumptions of sticks.

>>19457756
From a viewers point of view you are correct. From reality's objective position you arent.

>As I said at the beginning; objective truth is the sum total of subjective truth.
Only if you view and consider, a subjective view of the objective, as objective.

Which as said here: >>19457354
>Thats because they look at the reality and phenomena from a subjective point of view as an objective one, and by that creating this whole mess.
>If you look at it from any kind of point of view, you turn it into subjective that doesnt work at the very core of the matter but around it, avoiding the reality of that matter, which is simply, an action without anything to it but the objective truth of its existence as an action, which it is.