whats the christian heaven gonna be like lads?

we will never know

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Im only replying because Xavier was the best thing to be broadcast on television in human history.

>>19447242
Check out the book of Isaiah.

>>19447255
there is more to life... than life

I won't be able to see it because I'm a fag

>>19447255
Close. The heart she hollar was far superior.

>>19447242
Hell

gnosticism is true

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>christian heaven
>sit around
>GAHD wants you to sing songs of praise
>for the next 20,000 years
>but you're fed the spiritual equivalent of happy drugs to keep you docile
rest in piss, GAHD

>>19447242
Your statement makes the broad assumption that an endless number of souls are stored like the worlds largest hotel for dead people. It's really nothing like that. Energy for life is used for just that. You can't take it with you.

>>19447242
>heaven

No we don't go to heaven. The earth was made good by god but we ruined it. Jesus comes back and wrecks the anti Christ and we leave here forever to enjoy with god and jesus.

There will be a massive city called new Jerusalem in earth.

Basically you actually get to enjoy the earth for its beauty plus the massive mega city built by god, we don't go to heaven

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>>19449241
>the jews control the NWO
god gets worse and worse with every revelation

>>19449247
God destroys the me. Idk what your talking about.

The "Jews" got jesus killed

>>19449250
Nwo*

>>19447242
>tfw no gf even after death

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>>19449250
>>19449252
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
it's like you come from reddit or something

Frittattas

>>19449266
YES.

>>19449264
Its in the bible dude

>>19449264
The everything I dont like is reddit meme is incredible stale lmao

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>>19449285
fuck the bible
it's almost as bad as reddit
they're the same thing really
you vote up what you want to hear and tell other people

>>19449298
Hardly. I can understand majority of christians bring hypocrits because they actually dont follow teachings of the bible but there not real christians. It teaches to love. Perhaps that's why 4chan is so opposed to it. You guys are permanent upset over nothing

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>>19449303
>no true scostsman
>no true god's chosen

>>19449309
Luke warm christians are a thing and god is not ok with them. Either you follow christ or you dont

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>>19447242
I think Heaven is our own version of paradise, or perfection.

>>19449327
I've committed at least two sins the old testament calls for death as a punishment.
And Jesus (HAIL ZEUS) tried to exact his judgement on me. Too bad he was a fellow signatory.

>>19449340
Old testament laws cant be followed. Moses knew the Jews wouldn't keep it, it was to show them how sinful they were. Also your judgement is death. Everyones judgemnt is death. The wages of sin are death but jesus saved.

Also
>jesus is (insert diety here)

Lmao

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There's gonna be MANSIONS!! and gold everywhere, the streets are gold !!!! There's food to eat, and music to enjoy !! Lots of celebration with jesus :)

>>19447242
its gonna be just like hell - unreal ;-)

>>19447242
any firm of existence that doesn't have the downs as well as the hopes would be incredibly boring

you need challenge the appreciate victory, you need pain to appreciate when things are well, you need loss and limitations and weaknesses to have it mean something when it's the opposite

so for me, heaven is exactly like earth except I never die. just keep on experiencing the beautiful chaos that is this universe

>>19449466
in this form and perception sure, but not if your entire existence feels "alein to this. Or when that feels normal- I guess this would feel alieN!

>>19447242
The problem with the concept of Heaven is that it is conceived of a place that's "only good." By introducing good, you introduce "lack of good" and this is inescapable. A place can't be "only good" because its own existence is contingent on its opposite existing as well. If we define hell to be its opposite, the "bad place," we do not escape this because the idea of good is in the head of the individual. Whether someone goes to Heaven or not, they still possess the dualistic thinking of good/bad -- else they would not consider one pleasure and the other torture. Being impossible to abolish the idea of evil in one's head, (because it is contingent on good existing) no place can be Heaven.

>>19447242
It's like trying to imagine a new color.

>>19449206
Because war, genocide, and slavery of all kinds is much better.
Stay low vibration, friend.

>>19449264
Why are all tripfags such cancerous idiots?

>>19447242
like a big book club

>>19449369
will there be a beer brotha?

Boring. Bunch of like-minded people who all look and behave the same. Pass.

You want to know what Heaven/New Jerusalem will be like?

Imagine the most pleasurable orgasm you've ever had with the women you love. Now imagine that x100, That still won't even begin to explain how much utter joy and ecstacy you'll be in standing in front of the Creator.


Remember your cute crush in school? Remember how warm and fuzzy you felt just thinking about her when you were alone in your room playing your gamecube?

In God's kingdom, We will all unfathomably beautiful and we will love each other in ways you can't comprehend.

There will be no sex but there will lovemaking among us.

Try to imagine the most beautiful song and scenery you possibly can for like 2 minutes. God will create things just for you that are infinitely better.

You body will be supreme and mighty, you will be to do anything with it and anything jesus was able to do.

>>19449984
>will there be a beer brotha?
No! You are thinking of the Sumerian version of heaven.

>>19447242
The 'Christian Heaven' is the heavens of Kabbalah, they just hid it from you because they don't want you to search knowledge. You should probably kill yourself if you're a Christian.

>>19449241
That lie was made for you to embrace the world you live in. Pure garbage that drives you to reject the spirit.

>>19449362
>Jesus is Lucifer
Makes me laugh always
God bless brother, don't ever lose faith when they come for the beheadings

>>19449250
>>19449252
If you think things are gonna change, you are delusional.

>>19450664

Gnosticism is not the fucking truther, you guys think you're so profound just because you jerk off to neon genesis and fell for the whole god is the devil thing, which is so damn naive.

>>19449241
Bullshit we ruined this world. All life must come from death is one of the most basic rules of this world that we have always been forced to abide by. This place is evil.

SQUATTERS' RIGHTS

>>19450681
I never said The ruler of this realm is 'the Devil', those are your preconceived notions, not mine. You are probably a retard and are losing hard right now.

>>19450685
This place is even your home, at least the Earth isn't.

>>19449984
Jesus made water into wine!! True story

>>19447242
Well, at first you're super happy as unconditional love washes over you and through you. With ecstatic joy you discard all of your low frequency thoughts, feelings, and ideals in favor of the clearly superior and more satisfying high-frequency ones. All of your memories are put into context and you feel nothing but gratitude for every stupid moment of your life.

You are clean.

Then they disassemble you like a cow in a slaughter house, your various parts cataloged and organized for the assembly of other new souls in the future.

>>19451701

Fkn lol

>>19447242
Well if it's only christians it will be a bunch of people doing really horrible shit to each other but not admitting to anything.

>>19449943
Histrionic personality disorder

>>19450404
Why do you cripplechan fags shill on /x/ all the fucking time?

>>19451997
Anon this is the saddest part.

They have nowhere else to shill.

>>19452025
So they have to pick up literal schizos and bipolars? Shieeeet.

>>19447255
WHAT DOTH LIFE

>>19450404
It's funny how the Christian girls are always the ones who get knocked up.

>>19450404
giv discord invite

>>19450083

Remember your cute crush in school? Remember how warm and fuzzy you felt just thinking about her when you were alone in your room playing your gamecube?
anon i appreciated the post but this gave me way more feels than i can handle atm

>>19447255
I've never met a person with the same fascination with Xavier RA as I do. Vernon Chapman is the shit. Fine memes too.

>>19452947
fucking cripplical so lazy you won't even stand up

>>19452434
By what evidence to support your lack of basis in the context of your stupid pitiful disgusting statement? I think you got knocked being thrown up spun your umbilical cord like a helicopter and you're still attached on it. People mistake your outie for a deformed penis the doctor wanted nothing to do with ya quickly cut ties and retired.

>>19452985
hahahahha roastie detected holy shit
he is only half-right tho it depends on the church with non-liberal mainline protestant, Anglicans, and greek orthodox churches being the best

>>19449327
Pride is a sin, you know.

>>19449369
All of these things are sinful tho

Why do people think it's gonna be a paradise with sin

No, my dumbass motherfuckers, it's going to be you on your knees, worshiping daddy dipshit for all eternity

Hope you're ready for that bullshit

>>19453387
That wasn't pride, that's the 'truth' of the stupid book you all worship

>>19447242
You do know your middle eastern cult and it's heaven is just propaganda right?

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>>19450681
>Gnosticism is not the fucking truth
You do black magic with the names of god because that's how he rolls

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>>19447242
>making physical descriptions
>thinking it's all just some party drug/ vacation

think about what your soul feels like, it's hard to imagine what it does feel like. well imagine what god does for a soul and then what it is like when the soul returns to god's presence forever.
God made it, makes it stronger and keeps it going.

You need to stop making physical descriptions of heaven.
when you are in heaven you don't suffer physical ailments like jelousy, sadness, or stomache pains. people think heaven will have great food and great swimming pools.
it's much more abstract then that. there is no physical element, sex isn't needed.

we don't have bodies in heaven, period. Our bodies are here and anything relating to the body will be left behind on the journey home. make a little effort to imagine heaven beyond a hilton hotel.

>>19447242
Read the book of Enoch there's a pretty detailed description or the revelation of Paul.

>>19450664
Get out please.
>My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Really don't like half assed upstarts .

>>19449984
>But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Fun times ahead. Praise God.

>>19447242
777777777222222 virgins.
Basically /x/.

>>19447242
You become a happiness drone that only wants to kiss God's ass.

Serious question for the Christfags: If the person you love most was damned to Hell for all eternity, would Heaven still be a perfect paradise?

>>19449303
>It teaches to love
The entire first half and a good chunk of the second disagree.
>inb4 Old Testament doesn't count (except when I use the verse that says gays are bad)

>>19454597
Yes because you won't ever remember the former things.
There's a lot of scripture devoted to heaven.
Evil will be purged and those who side with it will die with evil and all the bad things like pain,sorrow etc etc.
I personally advise you to watch the following :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpVwXlvDkQ since it explains the answer with details and you don't have to read just listen to it

>>19447242
Cheetos said the kingdom of heaven is within a person. It's a coded text that isn't meant to be read, most people couldn't even read 2000 years ago, let alone 100 years ago.

>>19454637

Actually you will, But the bible says that it would be like remembering a really bad dream.

That just really shows how intense the heaven experience is gonna be.

>>19454661
Nay.

>>19454597
yes.

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>>19454597
jesus is frozen in carbonite in the underworld like han solo was
true nigga shit

>>19454637
>>19454672
Yeah, I don't want to go, then. I'd rather suffer as myself than be some drone that's programmed to be blind to anything that might make it anything other than perfectly happy.

>>19454701
Objectively speaking you're foolish little gnat that is incapable of making that choice.
Thus has God ordained a set of days in which your will be done because you're made in His image and thus your will is respected above all else.
It is very uneasy to come to the truth when you're not willing because both demons and angels and even God himself respects your choices and free will.
Make your choice wisely.

>>19454715
I reject. I will never bow before a tyrant.

>>19454715
God giving freewill is like a parent giving a gun to a child , then when the child shoots himself in the foot the parent beats the childs ass endlessly.
Its pure retardation

>>19454841
This. Never respect a deity whose most faithful call people gnats, fools, etc., and who seem only to send insults. I come to 4chan for that, I sure as fuck don't need a whole religion for it.

>>19449666
like yellowish black?

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>when your idea of heaven is just earth + everything you don't have right now

Holy shit everyone except me is a fucking idiot lmao

>>19454597
If it's not you'll be going with them.

>>19454871

You might be surprised how non-toxic spiritually-minded people are. It was just a couple of days ago there was a guy asking for some help with Christianity (forgot specifics), and the replies almost didn't seem like 4chan. Not sure if the thread was still up. I'm not saying only Christians are good, as there were a couple of non-Christians (but spiritual-minded) who emanated goodness from their responses.

>>19456426
>You're going to suffer unending agony if you don't believe what I believe!
>Good
>Non-toxic

>>19447255
Frittata!

>>19455851
More confirmation that I don't want anything to do with your monstrous fever dream. Thanks, m8.

>>19456553
Doesn't matter whether you want anything to do with it or not.

Look i dont post on here but i will say this much. I fuck around in the multiverse all the time. I jump dimensions like a motherfucker. I accidentally flipped into it once. Bright white as far as perception existed. There is a lot of tech in one spot that i couldnt identify but it had humanoid bodies hooked up to it with a pool that was playing someones life (didnt look into it). I talked to the judeao god. He told me that our minds are a tree. Each person begins as a seed and the meaning of life is to sprout that seed enough to join the upper dimensions when we reach heaven. Life is a training sim and your true body is there.

However this comes at a caveat, you have to ascend to heaven because your tree will give a seed to the next below you. It takes three seeds per soul to give it an adequate shot at success. I cant provide any more details. Also, god is a shapeshifter who appears in whatever form you can most comprehend. All etherial beings are. And i didnt see his face. He wouldnt let me. Said it would break my mind.

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>>19456806
>he hasn't soulgazed a deity

>>19449332
This. We will have our own personal heavens when we die. What we find most enjoyable in life will be our eternity

>>19456806
how to hit up god for those esoteric and holy secrets tho?

>>19456844
Look into dimensional jumping. I take it to the extreme and have created a pocket dimension within the astral around me where I can jump between them on a whim. Often times gods are pretty chill and will chat at least if you show up. A buddy of mine is good friends with Azazel. Just dont do anything fucking stupid with it cause its hard (if not impossible) to go back to your exact dimension. Its an infinite upon infinite series of parallel and non parallel universes all acting at once with microscopic changes. Ive honestly lost a bit of myself along the way and havent cared to jump much since i landed in this one. Its great if you're solo but i have folks I care for now. Cant go running off all the time to different memories and versions of them.

>>19447242
constant feeling of euphoria, love, heroin effects and orgasms

>>19456815
I have, that was years ago. Recently gave my soul to Odin actually. Before anyone says "he'll ruin your life/off you/etc" , it was a very serious negotiation and i laid out certain terms which he cannot cross (he is bound to his word) and all has gone well so far and the few hardships have helped to galvanize me on my path. Of course i spoke with him the same way that i met god. Even had dinner in asgard. The food is amazing there, but the chairs were honestly uncomfortable.

>>19447242
My heaven would involve a lot of rape. lmao

>>19456874
ay can you give me a rundown on that dimensional jumping
also can i use your pocket dimension to chill?
is there a form of distance (think like a river delta where the rivers on the edge are the furthest away because they broke off at the earliest point from each other) but infinite

>>19456874
what makes this dimension special?
are we part of the retard dimensions?
are we part of the cool dimensions?
does the hyper-chad dimesion shit talk us?

>>19456875
Heroin is Heaven?

>>19456899
Well the jist is that once you astral project, you can affect reality there with your will. Literally just focus on creating it and it will appear. What i do is i created a couple tulpae on the plane and have them assist that dimension in sorting. It is basically an infinite storehouse where i have doors to every version of myself. All i have to do is will a door which leads to one where i have some desired outcome. Sometimes its hard to step through because your body thinks your soul is leaving it and the thread holds you back. Keep trying and you'll get there. You'll face a lot of Mandella effects though.

Wouldnt do you much good to go to mine unless you want to see the wellspring of energy that i keep on reserve. Its a technique i came up with a while back that royally screwed me over. Its morally wrong of course to steal energy en masse from randos, but what about borrowing a drop from yourself? Open every door, vamp a little and pool it together.

The problem is that over time the affects add up and end up biting you in the ass worse than taking a karmatic hit. Its good for small, rare occasions but dont use it for a full blown ritual.

>>19456906
>what makes this dimension special?
>are we part of the retard dimensions?
>are we part of the cool dimensions?
>does the hyper-chad dimesion shit talk us?

Haha i wish. Theres an infinite series of identical ones. I literally picked this one at random from an infinite series of ones that fit my criteria. I'm just lazy and any change might shift things too much out of my favor. The good things are whatever in the hell pols been up to recently. Its royally fucked the system so much that energy waves have been off the charts. Lots of fuckery has been had in this reality by me. Compared to this one, my original was nearing total entropy.

This one is the class clown dimension. Occasionally retarded, mostly good for the luls.

>>19456931
well while your in this reality can you give a lad some assists?
with your astral projecting-dimensional shift it shouldn't be hard to find me
i sincerely doubt i'll ever be able to do that shit myself

>>19454472
I don't give two fucks what Jesus said, motherfucker, he was an idiot who adopted a misrepresentation of The Ruler of This Realm.

>>19456945
I'll see what i can do, i havent traveled on the plane since i moved. Got a wendy out back that is itching for me to move out of my ward. I've tried dealing with him but hes ancient and refuses to budge. Even shattered his soul a few dozen times.

Actually, come to think of it i havent even looked around for ley lines around this place. >>19456945

>>19456962
thanks mate i'd prefer you to just give me an assist on that dimensional travel or alot of money so i can have the free time to learn it alone
if you aren't larping thanks for being a nice brah

>>19456789
Again, if he's all-powerful and all-loving, he'd just destroy hell and say "original sin's not a thing anymore." Not this "I made me mortal and sacrificed me to myself to make a loophole in my own rules so that a small number of people don't end up in the trash incinerator that I allow to exist" bullshit.

>>19451701
Second part only happens if the Archons get you. Better stay high vibe

>>19454841
>>19454871
You are the tyrant and your life is a self-deception.

>>19456789
He wants to send the vast majority of people who have lived and will live to be horrifically tortured literally forever because some distant ancestor ate a fruit that they were told not to. That seems like a just and loving god.

>>19458194
You clearly don't understand what the word "tyrant" means. I have no authority over anyone, and therefore cannot be a tyrant. Your god, meanwhile claims absolute dominion over literally everything and demands to be served and worshiped or else suffer infinite retribution.

>>19449241
What happens to the other planets? We just get this one?

If you hate even the mention of Christianity avoid this:

>>19454615
>It teaches to love
The entire first half and a good chunk of the second disagree.
>inb4 Old Testament doesn't count (except when I use the verse that says gays are bad)

1)The OT is the history of Jesus' family history from Adam through Abraham to Joseph so it's relevant to Christianity, it also contains the 10 commandments.
2)The reason why gay sex is a big issue for some Christians is because no amount of gay sex can produce offspring but God directly told humans to multiple on the Earth so homosexuality is a problem even without the laws in Leviticus.
3)If Christians wanted to remove themselves from the OT but still preach against non productive gay sex there are plenty of scriptures in the NT.
4)The reason why Christians claim that the bible is about a loving God is because of the amount of times God forgave the Jews after they turned to worshipping other gods and getting involved in human sacrifice (for which there is archaeological evidence btw), he constantly warned people to stop the evil and only killed them when they wouldn't. Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't destroyed just for being a bunch of gay rapists, they were generally evil. Also Jesus removed all the death penalties for sin when he saved an adulteress from being stoned to death or didn't allow his disciples to get killed for not washing their hands before they ate. He frequently associated with the so called undesirable people. The New Testament also teaches people not to judge others unless they want to be judged. Not to be hypocrites and literally to love one another.
5)Christianity doesn't have a problem with two men or two women loving each other, it has a problem when they have sex with each other. The fact is that the bible tries to warn people against child abuse. From the ancient rituals where children were sacrificed to the pederasty linked to homosexuality ever heard of a catamite?

>>19459809
>Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't destroyed just for being a bunch of gay rapists, they were generally evil.
Lot offered his daughters to a rapey mob, and he got off with no punishment whatsoever.

>>19447242
probably an increasingly good feeling so you never get complacent.
new activities constantly so you never get bored.
constant evolution.

>>19447255
who is that guy? i see him everywhere

>>19447242
A complete sausage fest.

>Worship a dead cross dressing jew that has no interest in twelve women.
>They certainly don't like women.