AMA

>>19441162
kys

Grats on your initiation?

are you the thirty-third degree or are you up in the thirtysix chambers??
pls respond

>>19441162
What's the meaning behind the allegory of Hiram Abiff?

Fake and gay

>>19441162
>a Freemason, ask me anything.
tell me a mathematical secret nobody knows.

>>19441191
1 =! 1

>>19441175
No.

>>19441179
Thirty-third degree.

>>19441180
Twisted parable for ISIS goddess.

Do you ever feel guilt about betraying humanity for your galactic overlord?

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>>19441191
Actually, there are a lots of Jewish Kabbalah into the Freemasonry.

>>19441202
How so? Hiram oversaw construction of Soloman's temple and was murdered by three of his craftsmen. Where's the relation to Isis?

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>>19441201
>1 =! 1

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Do you guys actually worship my nigga Baphomet

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>>19441217
Evil and good are fighting, the construction of Salomon's temple is a reference to the triumph of goodness. Universal balance.

>>19441202
That's an initiate's apron m8

>>19441162
Hows the weather?

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>>19441230
There is no things like Gods or Demons. In this case, Baphomet represents the absence of duality gods.

>>19441203
There is a elite that run the world, and they are Jews, not the Freemasons.

>>19441248
shh
don't tell anyone that the masons are just lying crypto-jews that do volunteer work and roleplay with silly hats
it's a super secret

>>19441162
You ever suck a dudes dick?

>>19441266
No hats in a craft lodge m8.

>>19441263
So no then

>>19441162
Hello. G disowned you. Look up Buckton Moor in Stalybridge if you don't believe me. Site of the "great work" He lives there. He hates you all. He wants every last human dead so it's just him and the animals and no fucking bitch either. Be sure to tell your pals.

>>19441162
how many times did you take it up the as?

>>19441162
tell me the secret

>>19441816
The summary is be a productive member of society and dont be a cunt

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All masonniggers shall die. Child raping, pretentious motherfuckers. Generativity is not found in a the assholes of children. Hanging from bridges, all of them.

Did you guys kill Joseph Smith

>>19441268
>>19441794
Your silence is telling

>Freemason

Rundown?

>>19441940
No, but we should have.

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Explain the deal with Albert Pike and Lucifer. Who is Lucifer? Don't leave me hanging :.

Sage this faggot RP shit

>>19442019
Pike was just a dude in the A&AR. Lucifer isn't a who, it's an adjective. It means light bringer, and Romans used it to describe Venus, which rises just before the sun, heralding the new day. Also a term for Jesus Christ.

>>19442041
Someone's seen zeitgeist

>>19442069
No, actually. Just read the history of the term. What do they say about it in the movie?

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>>19442041
bro, have you ever read Morals and Dogma. Lucifer is not and adjective, Lucifer is a He.

from Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike - until about 1972 this was given to all initiates upon the completion of the 3rd.

“Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!”

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>>19441845
I gotta flip all them pancakes just for that?

>>19442084
>bro, have you ever read Morals and Dogma.
Yup.
>Lucifer is not and adjective, Lucifer is a He.
Nope.
Read the whole thing in context. Hell, even your quote points out your wrong interpretation. Pike is just saying that it's stupid that people would call the spirit of darkness the bringer of light.
>Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike - until about 1972 this was given to all initiates upon the completion of the 3rd.
No, it was given to members joining the A&AR (32nd degree, which is at least two days after being raised to the 3rd degree) in the Southern Jurisdiction, IF the Valley (lodge) wanted to present it. Not too many did, and just let joining members know they could buy it.

Will anything happen between August 21st and September 23th?

>>19441162
Why do you and the illuminati leave your symbols everywhere?

Is it for communication?
Identification?
Memetics?
Magic?

>>19442168
Depends when a given lodge meets. A given lodge meets once every one or two months.

But no, there is no magic hoodoo planned. In fact, there is no coordination between individual lodges outside of district wide charity events

>>19441162
cute purse

>>19441162
>>19441202
>>19441235
>>19441263

Jesus Christ OP, if you're gonna roleplay as one of us, try harder.

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>>19442103

Kek, pffft, lololol oh god, holy shit, pffft lololol...

fucking brilliant anon
! you really are a bro. no one outside the lodge could possibly come up with that one..

you made me genuinely laugh and smile for the first time all day! ty bro!

>>19442107
I honestly can't say I understand all of M&D but I cannot agree with your interpretation either. we must agree to disagree bro. It's all good... lets depart on the square.

>>19442365
>but I cannot agree with your interpretation
Dude, it literally says what i just posted, which is consistent with the rest of the book, and Pike's other works and beliefs. Might be worth brushing up on the Trivium, hombre.

>>19442260
If you're a real Freemason can you please answer my question?

>>19441162 (OP) #
Why do you and the illuminati leave your symbols everywhere?

Is it for communication?
Identification?
Memetics?
Magic?

>>19442740
>Why do you and the illuminati leave your symbols everywhere?
Common symbols aren't solely owned by such groups.
At best, you'll see an S&C on a building cornerstone just to show it was consecrated by a Masonic lodge (very prestigious).
Otherwise, symbols are at the discretion of the architect, and whatever he wants to put on it.

>>19441162
Why arent you declassifying aliens you illuminati faggot?

When did you finally commit to being a faggot?

>>19442752
So the symbols usually either just mean "I'm involved with Masons in some way" or "This symbol is mysterious and edgy so I'll use it."?
That's a lot less exciting than I thought.
Also how can I meet people in your organization?

>>19442781
>So the symbols usually either just mean "I'm involved with Masons in some way" or "This symbol is mysterious and edgy so I'll use it."?
Pretty much. Usually the latter, but not just for the edge factor. Ie. I'd incorporate a lantern or a rosy cross on a library because it's applicable.
>Also how can I meet people in your organization?
Lodges are usually a good spot to do so. Namely Grand Lodges, which have a regular staff (as opposed to only being open once per month).

>>19442789
What does the rosy cross represent and the Templar cross too?

>>19441162
Baby fuck Satan worshiper. Not even worth it. Only the Rose-Croix Brotherhood has the Mason's Word and Second Sight. Best step off my square.
>>19441167
Reddit makes you gayer than Masonry.
>>19441172
This, but do it like Aaron Hernandez.
>>19441263
Did somebody say McDonalds?

>>19442803
Knowledge. The Cross Patee (Templar Cross) is more to do with fidelity and dependency.
If you're interested, i'd suggest going to your nearest cathedral, and having a look around for each symbol you can find, then look up what some of their meanings can be.

>>19442815
>Only the Rose-Croix Brotherhood has the Mason's Word and Second Sight.
That is Masonry, my Irish friend.

>>19442827
Not Irish, but I do support the Irish Republic.

>>19442835
>Republic
Disgusting.

>>19442781
Usually our symbols are a way of identifying ourselves to each other. You can meet us by emailing your local lodges - check >>19440171 for more details.

>>19442803
The rosy cross has a lot of layers to it. Depends on who you ask, DESU. I look at it as Christ's love unfolding towards us on the cross, which also represents the Holy Spirit inhabiting the human body. The Passion Cross of the Templars is more simply Christian and less mystical.

>>19442815
o I am laffin. Love that. "Best step off my square," said the cowan.

>>19442951
>Cowan
Nice roleplay, kiddie fiddler.

Freemasons are larping faggots who probably all had their "secret club you can't join" in grade school and never grew out of it.

Also Catholicism and Orthodoxy do the aesthetic better.

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>>19441162
What does the last name Neis mean to you?

>>19442967
But pretty much any man can join. All you have to be is over the age of consent in your area and don't have a criminal record.

>>19442975
By global standards if you have access to 4chan you are in the top 0.1%

>>19442987
Oh and belief in some sort of superior entity.

>>19442967
>Also Catholicism and Orthodoxy do the aesthetic better.
True. But they aren't as good for education.

>>19442967
It's not terribly hard to join. Projecting much?

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OP Here, sorry for leave the thread. Lets see.

>>19442815
Rose-Croix: A bunch of relativist and cryptocomunist.

>>19442755
"Aliens" are just the way to create a new-one-global-religion. By the way, Illuminati's don't exists.

>>19442740
>>19442193

Symbols can change your perception of the real world. See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactance_(psychology)

>>19442168
Don't know.

>>19442019
Look, there isn't any kind of Gods. Things like Lucifer are just concepts or virtues, in this case: knowledge.

Now, Albert Pike, are the kind of people that ruin Freemasonry: Jew...

>>19441940
No.

>>19441816
There is no God, we are alone.

>>19443012
In the US it's basically inter-denominational Protestant drinking buddies, right? How's that better at education than coherent Christian sects?

>>19443053
Isn't belief in God the main requirement to join?

>>19443053
>Now, Albert Pike, are the kind of people that ruin Freemasonry: Jew...

you do know A.P. designed the modern scottish rite?

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>>19443053
>>>19441816
>There is no God, we are alone.

>>19443076
>In the US it's basically inter-denominational Protestant drinking buddies, right?
In some lodges, perhaps. And it's not just protestant. Lots of Catholics are members. But TO/EC lodges, AMD councils, KM councils, SRICF Colleges and the like are all better than the modern Royal Society. And that's just USA.
>How's that better at education than coherent Christian sects?
What do the coherent Christian sects offer, apart from the Bible (if that)?
>Isn't belief in God the main requirement to join?
Yea, that guy is larping/trolling.

>>19443078
No, he reformatted the Southern Jurisdiction of the USA's Scottish Rite. But it has since been fixed.

>>19442357
OK I gotta ask, do they like make new guys flip a lot of pancakes or something?

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>>19443076
No, we are free to profess whatever religion we want. But, at the end of the day, we search and find a personal God. That's the meaning of the All-seeing eye: personal God. Last, see the Gospel of Thomas.

>>19443078
I know, but the real Freemasonry is old than the Scottish rite.

What I have gathered from this thread is that freemasonry is a bunch or roleplaying faggots.

SAGE

>>19443090
>>>19443078 (You)
>No, he reformatted the Southern Jurisdiction of the USA's Scottish Rite. But it has since been fixed.


Seriously, since when? details bro, give me an article link or something to search...

How's Lucifer doing these days? You all still playing golf together?

>>19443053
OP, it's pretty obvious you're not a Mason at all. The fact that you're throwing around "cryptocommunist" and calling Albert Pike a Jew, and most tellingly, denying the existence of God.

This is hilariously bad LARPing on your part.

>>19443076
You can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever. It's not really restricted to protestants.

>>19443084
OP is trying so hard lol

>>19443093
Not really, but you'll be expected to volunteer for lodge activities, which in some lodges includes pancake breakfasts and shit.

>>19443098
try harder, OP.

>>19443105
OP is a roleplaying faggot. Masons, on the other hand, less so. More giant nerds than anything.

>>19443107
Try the wiki article for the SR.

>>19443093
annual pancake fund raiser my bro

pancake

pan

cake

so many pancakes

>>19443098
>>>19443078 (You)
>I know, but the real Freemasonry is old than the Scottish rite.

i know

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>>19443105
No, I'm not.

>>19443112

i can see his troll face through that thin veil. had me going for half a sec. must have picked up the apron at goodwill or online, or found his dad's.

>>19443098
>Gospel of Thomas
It's formatted differently from the real gospels and Irenaeus explicitly disregarded it as a collection of hearsay. Learn your history.

>>19443107
Since about the 70s. Read A Bridge to Light for the symbolic stuff in it, or the current Southern Jurisdiction Ritual Monitor for the reasoning.

>>19443098
>But, at the end of the day, we search and find a personal God.
Well that's new.

>>19443112
>More giant nerds than anything.
Can confirm.
>Source: Self.

>>19443128
yeah because the 'real' gospels were written about 200 years later..

>Learn your history.

>>19443129
I have read a bridge to light, looking at it now. also morals and dogma. kind of a bookworm.

>>19443141
Good man. Check out the Master Craftsman program too, if you want to apply that reading (pretty hard if you're not a member there, but not impossible).
Oh, and if you can get a copy, have a look at Clausen's Commentaries on M&D.

>>19443138
>Irenaeus died in 202 AD

>>19443120
oooooooh, look, the idiot spouting nonsense found his grandpa's apron.

>>19443129
> being a nerd
Yeah, I'm hopelessly far gone at this point. Just glad my family/friends/GF put up with my nerdy horseshit. It's pretty great.

>>19443120
>still an EAF apron
Come back when you've at least finished with craft lodge progress, m8.

>>19443143
i'll make a note of it... ty bro

>>19443144
soooooo he was alive when the 'real' gospels were written.... what are you getting at?

>>19443163
To be fair, that might be an FC apron somewhere in the States. IDK what y'all's aprons look like other than the standard 0/2/3 UGLE setup.

>>19443272
Not burgerstani, ausfag (NSW). Our EA is blank as you'd expect from the relevant explanation. FC (from memory) has the trim but no rosaries. MM is rosaries and the ball thingos.

>>19443272
Even some MM aprons in the USA look like that. Kinda like the idea, but still feel ours are better as standard. Not a fan of our prov./grand regalia, though.

>>19443282
>ball thingos
Dammit, NSW... But fair, if ya'll don't do the full apron explanation.

OP is not a mason.

>no god

Believing in a higher power is literally a requirement to join.

>>19443294
It may just be my deficiency as a mason. I tend to get hungry as fuck like half way through third degree and I hadn't done anything masonic for around 2 years as I was living overseas and a 4 hour round trip from the nearest lodge.

>>19443305
Sounds like you need to find a table lodge.

>>19443315
There's a lodge of instruction meeting at the end of the month. They're doing 1st degree. I was planning on hitting it up pending work. I'm fine with first degree and pretty good with 2nd (since I had to do parts from it for Mark Man) but I haven't had the chance to see many 3rds so I'm pretty rusty.

>>19443335
Once you've brushed up, see if you can get over the border and check out a Scottish 3rd. Will blow your mind all over again. Same for a French, but those are far rarer.

As far as the argument about "real" scriptures goes, look into scholarly research on the origins of the NT and histories on the development of the modern Catholic and Orthodox empires from their beginnings. Once you do that you can decide for yourself what you accept and what you reject.

Thanks OP and thanks to the real Masons who have responded. I'm planning on going out to my local lodge this week and signing up for my first degree. A decision that has been a long time coming.

In the end, they say they take good men and make them better, and I'm definitely down with self-improvement. Plus I'm also a huge nerd so I'll probably fit right in.

God bless and Allahu Akbar.

>boy scouts for grown ups

>>19443618

When WWIII hits and society collapses, the boy scouts will be people you need the most.

Who riggs every Oscar night?

>>19441162

What significance do the vesica pisces, ouroboros and hexagram hold?

Does "Blackthorn" mean anything to you?

>>19441869
Wtf is this image

>>19443282
>>19443294

lol, I need to go see some Emulation ritual sometime. We use blank aprons for every degree, but fold them differently.

>>19443305
Keep a powerbar in your suit jacket maybe? IDK. Usually I have a protein shake before each degree that I'm helping confer, and then we go eat heavily and get tanked afterwards.

>>19443315
(NOT) fun fact: Table lodges are illegal in my home Jurisdiction of Texas.

>>19443516
Fuck yeah, man! Best of luck.

>>19443618
nah we don't teach survival skills

>>19443856
wweeeeeeeeeeeee dooooooooooo

>>19443876
Depends on who you ask! The vesica pices, for example, is emblematic of the hidden Christian faith and the first day of Creation, but another of my brothers is convinced it's emblematic of the Sacred Feminine. I'm not sure that either of us is wrong.

>>19444129
>Table lodges are illegal in my home Jurisdiction of Texas.
Absolute travesty. Clearly you need to invite your GM to on to get them to change it. I forget though, is booze allowed in your buildings?
>I need to go see some Emulation ritual sometime.
Yes you do. Then RER, and Swedish Rite. Those are the big four, and it's pretty crazy to see the similar differences.

>>19441202
>Thirty third degree
Not with that apron you're not.
Pick it up at a garage sale or already willing to violate your oath?

>>19444246
Well, 33rds don't have aprons anymore. Just sashes and caps. Plus, they're still only 3rd degrees, and would thus require an MMs apron.

But yea, he's larping.

Hey Mason,

How long were you a slave before you were freed?

Regards

>>19444261
Everything above third sounds strange to me anyways. Scottish rite here.
But at least apprentice aprons are always the same.

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OP, what's the deal with Hiram abiff?

>>19441167
fpbp

>>19443880
It's a photoshopped image of kids getting uv rays because they don't get enough natural sunlight in Siberia

>>19444400
typing fpbp is the equivalent of reddit upvotes

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>>19444362

What is the secret of Osiris?

Is 2044 the last year?

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Is freemasonry like Scientology??

>>19445486
Nope. Dont have to give tithings and dont have to cut off connections to anyone. It also isn't a religion as it requires belief in a superior being before you can even be initiated.

>>19444240
No booze! :(

Also, yeah, I really want to see all of those. RER in particular!

>>19444362
He's important to the story of the building of Solomon's temple.

>>19445486
Nope.

>>19441162
Why do Infowars faggots pretend Freemasons have held any power at all in 100 years?

>>19441162
who freed you?

>>19445750
There're plenty of individuals who are masons and hold power. The issue arises when people conflate those individuals and their power with freemasons as an organisation

>>19441162
Ask you nothing ...become American swine ..

What do you know about Antarctica?

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>>19441162

Was told you guys may have made this necklace I have.
I'd like confirmation and an explanation, or a denial on that claim.

>>19441162
How does it feel to be the scum pf the earth?

>>19441162
How do I become a shriner? I like their hats.

>>19445791
Of

There's one thing that Freemasons don't do and that's go around telling people they're Freemasons.

Why is /x/ so full of attention seeking faggots?

>>19445818
Would you wander around and tell random people you're a member of a sports club? Would you tell people if it was relevant to the conversation or context (i.e. at a fund raiser by the sports club)? It's the same deal.

>>19445830
To clarify, I'm saying there's nothing preventing a mason from stating they're a mason. Most dont because it's a) irrelevant or b) lots of people (see: ITT for examples) believe nonsense about the craft and will react poorly

ANSWER THE QUESTOINS OP

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>>19445830
I know. There's a lodge not far from my home where they meet every Friday night.(pic related)

People go on like they're devil worshippers or some shit. They're fucking Builders and local Politicians who get together and talk about the community and how to help it. They raise funds for schools/hospitals or strike cheap deals in the community and do work for a knock-down price.

>>19445856
..... if you ever see a school or hospital with a Freemason logo on it it means they helped fund/build it. The school/hospital put the sign up as a mark of gratitude because the Freemasons don't ask for publicity or thanks.

>>19445856
My lodge has t-shirts made up for our charity events. Personally, I'm not above wearing my pin to events where's there's likely to be bros

>>19445887
If you're OP then bullshit.

If you're not OP then keep up the good work. Freemasons are good people and do alot of good in the community..

>>19445896
Not OP. I'm the ausfag, NSW and ACT GL bro from earlier

>>19443053
in order to enter freemasonry you must believe in a deity, a higher power

GG, nice LARP

t. actual freemason

What are the benefits of being a mason?

>>19446236
from what I gather from reading this thread it's more of a "ask not what your community can do for you, ask what you can do for your community" type thing

>>19443053
>By the way, Illuminati's don't exists.

OP be Deceiving everyone guys.
We all know the Freemasons take their orders from Rothschild. (A Member of the original Illuminati)

>>19445750
Honestly, I think they're both bored and creative.

>>19445767
Supposedly they recently found the world's largest volcanic field underneath the surface, which is kind of dope.

>>19445776
I saw your thread earlier! Symbol looks fascinating. Have you tried asking on /r/freemasonry or /r/whatisthis on Reddit?

>>19445792
Become a Master Mason, then join the Shrine.

>>19445818
You can tell people that you're a Freemason. No rules against that.

>>19445838
OP is a moron, be glad he's not answering questions.

>>19446236
Well, I would say that >>19446273 has got the right of it. Additionally, it's a lot of fun to study old Mysteries, learn strange ritual, and generally indulge in immensely nerdy shit. Basically the world's oldest geek's club. Having an instant support network anywhere I go in the civilized world is also pretty nice.

>>19446358
Keep LARPing, lol.

>>19441167
ahhahah perfect!

>>19446370
Balfour declaration in common text.

You are either ignorant or an enormous shill.

But Saturn/Satan/Moloch worshiping Rothschild Rules over your Luciferian Freemasonry.

>>19446370
How did you get in to masonry, family ties or money?How can not so normal normal folk get in?Do you guys have a library with occult books and everything?

>>19446370

I can try there! Thanks m8.

>>19446407
First & second question: literally just ask one of us to join. We're not allowed to recruit. I would hit up Google Maps, and find a couple of lodges close to your home or work. Make sure they're legit by googling "Grand Lodge of [your state/country]" and double-checking to see if they're listed. Email/call them and see how they like to get to know new guys. Spend some time with each lodge to see how you get along with each group. Pick the lodge you like the best, and ask them for a petition. Requirements: be male, believe in God, don't be a cripple, be over 18 (or 21 in some places).

Third question: some Temples have cool libraries. Most of them are either woefully under-booked, or filled with historical stuff (which is also alright) instead of occult stuff. I think the real librarian's treasure is hidden in the shelves of the individual members - it's always fun when a brother tells you "hey, you know, I have a book on that. Here, just let me know when you're done with it and we can talk about the book over a few drinks." That's how I picked up most of my books on the Kabbalah!

>>19445904
Cool. I didn't read the thread desu I just know OP is bullshitting.

Yeah man keep up the good work.

>>19446465
What happens when someone wants to be out?Do people always talk like ''brother this, brother that'', like some kind of a parody?Masonry sounds like a cool thing but this ''believe in god'' rule is a bit problem, do you accept agnostic people too(and I heard some lodges are accepting women)?

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>>19445222
>>19445222
Anon, I think it might have something to do with Jesus and Mary

>>19446465
Are there any restrictions in your life?Can you still do one night stands and shit talking on social media etc.And in my country, members of the big lodge is so fucking political it just hurts.

>>19445705
Blimey, you ought to revolt.
And if you ever come to Australia, i can certainly hook you up with the good stuff (Emulation, Scottish, and RER. Sadly no Swedish Rite here. Yet...).

>>19446512
>What happens when someone wants to be out?
They stop attending. Simple as that. If you think you want to go back later, you'll have to get a signed demit from your secretary, which just states you left on good terms, and are no longer required to pay the yearly dues (otherwise the lodge keeps paying for you).
>Do people always talk like ''brother this, brother that''
Kinda. Doesn't matter if you're the Duke of Kent, the CEO of an F500 company, or a sanitation driver, we're all equal and brothers.
>do you accept agnostic people too
Depends how agnostic. Faith in God is required, but it doesn't need to be specific.
>(and I heard some lodges are accepting women)?
Only fake ones, unless you count concordant bodies.

>>19446560
>Can you still do one night stands and shit talking on social media etc.
Sure. You're just expected to practice temperance and not be self destructive. You're also supposed to consider if your actions are actually beneficial. Basically, you're okay to do anything legal, but you shouldn't be a dumbarse.
>And in my country, members of the big lodge is so fucking political it just hurts.
Which country? Because they really shouldn't be.

>>19446512
> What happens when someone wants to be out?
The recommended method, as mentioned by my Ausfag brother, is to demit. Keeps the paperwork nice and clean.
> Do people always talk like ''brother this, brother that'', like some kind of a parody?
Not really a parody - we consider it to be the highest title of respect that we can bestow on another man.
> Masonry sounds like a cool thing but this ''believe in god'' rule is a bit problem, do you accept agnostic people too(and I heard some lodges are accepting women)?
No, and no. Ya gotta believe in God, and ya gotta be a dude.

>>19446560
Brothers should conduct themselves with respect to themselves and others, but nobody'll stop you. It's up to you whether or not you want to act that way.

>>19446722
I don't know man, this whole network thing is pretty beneficial but they just expect so much and it's basically build on a lie.You can't force yourself to be good all the time.

Turkey.Government helps the members a lot, most of them were against the government back then but now they support the regime.Which is pretty stupid considering the same people who vote for this government wants to destroy & tear apart masonry.

>>19446768
>You can't force yourself to be good all the time.
No, but you can try. And if you can't be good, then at least try to not be bad.
>Turkey
Ah yea, that's an interesting case. The (((French GOdF))) is strong there, so they should be torn down. But in general, Freemasonry is always obedient to the country, and ideally to the government.

>>19446560
Basically don't be a cunt. The majority of bros are like in their 70s so they dont really into social media. That said posting pictures of you doing lines off a ladyboy's feminine dick qualifies as being a cunt in my book regardless

>>19446465
I was planning on checking out the library in GL next week. Any recommendations?

>>19446838
Anything by Rev. George Oliver, RSE Sandbach, or Rev. Neville Barker-Cryer.

>>19446766
Aww shit, seen this? https://twitter.com/nickpwing/status/896886703255834625
Just heard about it on Roundtable. Snowflakes don't get that it isn't a statue of a confederate general, but a lawyer who fought for Injun rights.
And i don't even like Pike.

You guys have to be more picky.

>>19446838
Anything by Arturo De Hoyos.

>>19447147
Yeah, these people suck. However, that statue should probably be in front of the SR temple, not the police headquarters. I'm all for moving it to privately-owned property.

>>19447259
We try - OP seems to be more of a non-Mason LARPing than an actual Mason.

>>19447275
I always pictured masons as really professional guys but outfits look lame and invitation carts are not better.Someone with a sense of fashon & vision have to design these things man.

>>19447275
>However, that statue should probably be in front of the SR temple
Yea, never understood why it wasn't there. HotT should probably go in with a flatbed and crane before some snowflake + tinfoiler wrecks it.

>>19447286
The outfit depends in the lodge. Some do dinner suits, some white tie, some lounge suits. There's an emergency services lodge I'm aware of which meets in their uniform as they can be called at any time. Only grand lodge officers wear regalia. Are you thinking of knights templar?

>>19447311
Can you be a mason just to benefit from the network as long as you keep up a good attitude and be a good member.Like attend to meetings, donate money to lodge but at the same time do it in a opportunist way and when you think you are big enough just leave the lodge and masonry behind.Will they blacklist you or see you as the enemy if you do this?

>>19447340
You can try, but a lot of guys have left disappointed after attempting it.
Better off joining your Chamber of Commerce or business seminars if you want things like that.

>>19447364
From what you're telling masonry seems like a couple white rich guys playing dress up.It seems like a nice society though, when the religion rule is removed I might join you.

>>19447311
what kind of emergency services would need masons?

>>19447391
They work in emergency services and are masons. Fire dept, police, ambulance drivers, state emergency service, etc. Its literally a lodge for people who work in emergency services

What do you find in masonry you couldn't find in your local church?

>>19447286
You mean suits and aprons? IDK.
> invitation carts
???

>>19447340
That's shitty and we actually have a term for it: "mercenary motives." If brothers catch wind that you are trying to join for that person, they will blackball you, and depending on jurisdiction, you can get expelled for it. I gladly welcome people who want to grow, but people who are in it for mercenary motives can fuck right off.

>>19447381
It's mostly middle-class and blue-collar guys, actually. At least in the US. Not gonna get rid of the God thing anytime soon.

>>19447532
I don't want to sound dismissive, but that's not really the correct question to ask. We still go to church (well, most of us). Masonry is a fraternity - what we're looking for is brotherhood. And yes, I know, there is the brotherhood in church, but this is a different kind. Because we're not divided by religious belief or political beliefs, we can easily hang out to discuss things and meet guys we normally would never have met. The way that I look at it is that church/worship is necessary, Masonry/fraternity is a bonus.

>>19447568
It really seems like a support group where you can chill out for a couple hours and chat with your bros but what are the levels for?Can't you call a mason in a higher level than you brother?Do heads of the bigger lodges meet with president?

Also let's say you're a member of a lodge in New Jersey, can you go to a lodge in another state or another country?Do they accept you as a member or a brother?That would be neat.

>>19447625
You can go almost anywhere in the world and visit a lodge. Everyone's a bro from the dude who just finished his initiation to the grand master in that region.

>>19447532
Study of science and philosophy. Lodges try as hard as possible to not step on any church toes.

>>19447625
>but what are the levels for?Can't you call a mason in a higher level than you brother?
Of course. Every member is just "brother." We have different titles and shit for the various degrees and positions (levels as you call them, are more like classes), but none are above Brother.
>Do heads of the bigger lodges meet with president?
Not in a Masonic capactiy.
>Also let's say you're a member of a lodge in New Jersey, can you go to a lodge in another state or another country?Do they accept you as a member or a brother?That would be neat.
Yup. New Jersey has a Grand Lodge, and they'd give you papers saying that you are who you say you are, and you can go visit a lodge in Russia, or Japan, or Chile with no issues (except language). It's actually quite nice, always have family wherever you go. Every time i've traveled to other areas, bros have gone out of their way to make me feel at home. Be it driving me to/from my hotel to lodge, or showing me around the tourist spots, or whatever.

If I walked up to you and covered your ring, what would you do/say?

>>19447670
I dont have a ring and covering them is not significant in any way so I'd assume you're a faggot and hitting on me.

>>19447673
Haha, good response.

I once walked in to a lodge. Asked to join, got an application, but never paid the fee. My buddy was worshipful master there (or some shit).

He mentioned once covering the ring was a way to check fellow masons to make sure they knew what the fuck they were talking about.

Again it's been years. Army.

>>19447664
Damn you are selling me this.But the criteria for being a mason seems a bit too low.I read it somewhere that you need to have two references to be a member of Turkish masonic organisation(http://www.mason.org.tr/web/en_index.html).

>>19447670
"Why the hell are you touching me?"

>>19447683
References are just to show you're of good character. Basically put down 2 m8s numbers, they ring m8s and go "oi how long have you known anon? Is he a cunt?"

>>19447715
fuck off I'm asking the aussie guy not you

>>19447683
Yea, it's not meant to be hard, but just enough to keep the trash out.
So, freeborn, of good report, and mature age, with a belief in God.
Translates to 18/21+, not a slave/indentured, no criminal record, and can support yourself. You also need two members to vouch for your character (that you're not an alcoholic, wife-beater, slow driver, etc.). You might also need outside references, but i'm not sure how Turkey does it, so ask that website.

>>19447625
The levels are to signify that you have learned certain lessons as taught in the form of "degrees" (rituals). All masons are "brothers" after getting initiated, regardless of rank. Heads of larger lodges usually don't meet with the President - we actually try to stay out of politics as an organization. Individual masons are free to get into politics, but it's forbidden for us to do so as an organization.

Usually you can visit lodges in other places and countries. Visiting outside of your state or country ("Jurisdiction") sometimes requires extra paperwork, but it's pretty common, and people are often members in more than one Masonic Jurisdiction.

>>19447670
I would tell you to kindly fuck off. I would also assume that you are either a) trying to rob me, b) a conspiracy theorist, or c) a clandestine mason playing stupid games.

>>19447681
Ah, Army. That explains the stupid games - usually military lodges are Prince Hall Affiliated and while PHA lodges are a-okay, many military PHA lodges get real stupid real fast (hazing, etc).

>>19447683
Sometimes the criteria does seem a bit low, yes.

>>19447725
Be nice when people are being helpful.

>>19447725
I'm the aussie guy, UGL NSW & ACT.

>>19447765
No, I am Aussicus!

>>19447814
I'd post my apron but for some reason I can't post images from my phone so I'd have to transfer it to my computer it seems far too much effort.

(VIC a shit)

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>>19441162
what's the deal with airline food?

>>19447821
It's aight. I'm guessing it's the same as mine. Unless you have grand rank, which honestly, not as pretty as mine. QLD flag best flag.

>>19447835
Nah. Dunno if i can be arsed doing grand lodge shit at any point. Seems a massive pissing match over fucking nothing. I stay as far clear as i can from political nonsense in general.

What is the endgame of masonry?

Are you allowed to drink beer ot smoke cigarette in the lodge?

>>19447872
No food or drink is allowed in the lodge. We have dinner after the lodge is closed and most bros get quite a few glasses of wine into them.

In ausfailia it's illegal to smoke in pretty much any public building. I know every room in our lodge is fitted with smoke detectors in any event so you'd set one off anyway.

>>19447852
>Dunno if i can be arsed doing grand lodge shit at any point.
You have no idea how crazy it gets. Like, it's nice to be able to contribute, and you don't have to worry about the pissing patch unless you're on a board, but the practices and shit are mental.
Even if you've been in the military, you won't be up to snuff for marching, and God help you if you're a Grand Deacon, because you need better rod work than an award winning gay porn star.

>>19447872
Not in a meeting, but at the festive board (banquet) before/after it's fine, and expected that you'll have a glass of wine when you're toasting Her Majesty. Smoking is forbidden in public buildings, here, though.

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This robe looks cool, do you guys still use these type of robes?What is your favorite outfit from the mason catalogue?

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>>19447890
Again, there are no robes. You wear a suit of some description and your apron. I can't speak for lodges outside NSW but officers in lodge wear a collar kind of thing with a different medal/jewel depending on the office in question.

The collar is pretty similar to pic related but not nearly as nice.

>>19447890
>robe
You mean the sash? Yea, that's just a 33rd sash. So if you're a 33rd (i think that's non Supreme Council member), you'd wear that during your time as 33rd (not sure how SC for Turkey works). It's a side degree, and you start off with a collar for the 18th, then a sash at 30th, and back to collar for 31st and 32nd.
If you're in the Holy Royal Arch, or the Soc. Ros., robes are worn (depending on where you are, and the availability).

Favourite is a toughie. Might have to go with the Ecossais Rectifee regalia, which is green and red, and you have a cloak embroidered with your arms (heraldry).
Otherwise the Mark degree is pretty aesthetic. Same with the Red Cross of Constantine.

Does Masonry serve to Zionism or Israel in any way?

>>19447932
No, in general. But the Grand Lodge of Israel might. Though they have a Palestinian GM at the moment (and frequently have done so).

What do you talk at the weekly meetings?How many topics can you even find?

>>19447938
They're monthly/bimonthly here. We don't "talk" about anything generally. At my lodge we've been doing lots of degree work recently (initiations and raisings). Unless there's some pressing business it's basically a race to open and close the lodge so we can start drinking. Often lodges will hold a meeting for something specific and have an open invitation for anyone in the district.

>>19447949
Well that sounds like a drag.
>t. In the same boat

Which organization replaced the freemasons at politics?100 years ago a lot of the politicans & writers and thinkers were masons but it changed.Do you think it's because masonry couldn't adapted to the new age?

Do you guys have like gray masons who is not a member of any lodge but still is a mason or an atheist mason?

>>19447955
That's a good (big) question. There are still a lot of those people who are members, but when you look at the downturn, it seems to match the post-war period, where lots of military guys who just liked brotherhood joined. Then the post WW2 period, where baby boomers who didn't like anything "unusual" joined. So all those guys kinda pushed out the more devoted students of esotercism and greater thinking.

>>19447952
Our lodge record from tyling to closing is 15 minutes. You can get lots of shortcuts like instead of doing the full treasurer report the treasurer just says "the lodge is solvent" and sits.

>>19447971
Again, you cannot be an atheist and a mason.

>>19447971
Well, once a Mason always a Mason. You can't undo initiation. But anyone who becomes atheist would no longer be a member.

>>19447978
Dude, watch the latest Masonic Roundtable episode, they talk about just that.
I agree, we should rush through the admin stuff, but why bother having a lodge meeting if you're just racing to get out of there?

>>19447982
That's one of the things I really like about RAC (from the little I've seen of it). None of this opening in different degrees bullshit. It's just straight into the work.

Thanks for answering my questions and this goyim wishes you luck in your way to wear shinier robes.Now that I know what it's about, this seems kinda boring.I really wish you were a satanic organization doing pagan rituals and shit, [spoiler]or maybe you are.

>>19447995
Oh, you don't have the mega-chapter in NSW? We have Mark, EMM, HRA (obviously), RAM, RSM, and RCB in our Royal Arch Chapters. So you have to open in the HRA before opening any of those other ones. But you can at least do the short close before going into them, which, when you're Jeshua or Zerubbabel, is appreciated (Haggai best job overall).

Why do you like milk?

>>19448000
>I really wish you were a satanic organization doing pagan rituals and shit
Not gonna lie, sometimes i wish that too. Like that some of the crazy accusations were true. But at least we have Druidical side degrees for pagan stuff, even if it doesn't really involve paganism.

>>19448001
Well as per my MM certificate it's the USGC of Mark and RAM.

Is Eyes Wide Shut related to masonic rituals?

>>19448018
Oh and the boss man is 1st GP and GM

>>19448018
>>19448022
Well that's interesting. Up here we have the authority confer Mark and RAM, but we don't have a Grand Mark anything. Just Ark Mariner stuff. We do still have a Grand Mark Lodge, which is why i suspect it's the case (and they do the Mark better, but i couldn't be arsed joining a Mark Lodge just for that, unless i really wanted to start adding Grand Mark wank to my repertoire).

>>19448019
Seems more like OTO, honestly. But maybe Kubrick tried to put Masonic symbols in? Hard to tell, when there's overlap.

>>19448030
From talking to him when I did MM it seems no one had been doing Mark stuff of any description for a while so, as 1st GP, he got authority to roll it into his authority.

They've specifically trained the "team" to do Mark work around different masonic centres so everyone has a clear direction to move in after 3rd degree.

>>19448041
Yea, that's similar to how it happened here. But I think the Grand Team is hurting for members, so they avoid anything which isn't Installation of Principals and Officers.
Nice that they're pushing it there, though. Honestly figured we could use more of an HRA presence, and have emailed the Grand SE over it, only to be told to have fun doing it myself.

>>19448051
I think before he started this process it was basically you do 3rd, wait a bit, then go straight to MMM.

I think it's cool getting the extra bits from the 2nd though, personally.

>>19448063
Well that is the proper Scottish method. Honestly i'd put the Mark back into the Craft lodge.

>>19448073
I agree but maybe split it like initiation and first tracing board. It'd take way too long doing it in one hit.

>>19448089
Totally. I'm happy with the 2nd as is, no matter how underrated and underutilised as it tends to be. But having it as an emphasis on the meritocratic aspect of the work (and Christian aspect) would really benefit the Craft.

>>19448097
Maybe make steward a FC office so they have to be bitch-boy before "earning" their Mark, kek.

>>19448103
Was talking about that the other day. The parking lot consensus was that Steward should be a line office before either Junior Warden or Worshipful Master. So that you've worked your way up, but it's a reminder that you have to be able to serve.

>>19445222

Human cloning using surrogates. Human or animal surrogates. They get gender swapped to stop them procreating with natural born Humans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NruQRHMoc8

>>19441162
Do you have any secret knowledge of an afterlife?

>>19441162
Can i make my dick bigger? If it yes, how?

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>>19441162
is the chamber of reflection real?

>>19448547
No
>>19449738
According to the shit in my spam folder you just need to do this one weird trick. Also personal trainers hate the author apparently.
>>19450328
No

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>>19450455
does your work with the masons has an effect to your daily life?

Did you benefit of the masons ( better job, more money,..)?

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>>19441162
do you believe in the godhead ...if so is he your ...pasane as it were ..

>>19450477
It doesnt particularly aside from a few new mates. One of my bros said to hit him up for the work placement i have to do at the end of my degree though.

>>19450485
Some may do. You have to believe in a superiot being

>>19450533
when you climb the stairway higher in the ranking, does this mean that you have access to more knowledge? And how does this knowledge help you to become a better person?

>>19450553
Well yeah. As you progress you further your knowledge of the craft. I guess a bit. Like you're provided with further examples upon which to model yourself. I wouldnt say its direct causation though. Being a better person mostly comes from your association with good guys.

who is jesus? who is the anti-christ?

>>19441162
how big is your dick?

>>19451034
been an hour and 5 minutes, brother.
don't waste my time, brother.
you know the rules, brother.
BEARETH THY PHALLUS, BROTHER!

>>19450877
the anti-christ was named "sarot"
I think the IPA spelling is [serʌɾ]
he was slain a few weeks ago

>>19447867
Save the world, one dude at a time.

>>19447872
Not in the US.

>>19447890
Gotta be the Knight Templar uniform. It looks silly to some, but I love it.

>>19447932
Not really. The story we tell involves Israel in that it takes place in King Solomon's temple, but that's it.

>>19447938
We do a lot of esoteric talks. We like to invite speakers to come to my lodge - that's a lot of fun.

>>19447952
Make it fun!

>>19447955
I honestly don't think that any one organization has replaced us.

>>19447971
No atheist masons. There is such thing as a mason without a lodge, but most jurisdictions have time limits on how long you can legally do that.

>>19448005
?????????

>>19448108
Best way I've ever heard it is from V.:I.: Jason Mitchell: If you can’t get trusted with coffee, you can’t be trusted with anything else, most especially with initiating the next generation of men into the Craft. If you you’re “too good” to do the coffee run, that tells the Lodge everything they need to know about you. Show some initiative and confidence by leveling up the Lodge’s coffee game. Sure, unbranded stuff from the store is sufficient, but use some of your own money, and give the Lodge a treat and indulge them with something amazing they will enjoy (especially if you hate it). Actually serve the coffee. Learn how everyone takes their coffee. Master it. Remember that when you get to the East and show up at a Brothers house/office (with coffee) in need a favor or advice. Corollary: If you’re a WM of a Lodge that can’t implement a full complement of officers, make the newest Entered Apprentices and Fellow Crafts perform this job. It makes their becoming a Master Mason all the more poignant when they’ve been relieved of this role.

>>19448547
We've got the Bible for that.

>>19450328
Depends on whether you're using American ritual or French ritual. Usually, no.

>>19450477
Yep! I feel like I always have something fun to do, and I'm engaging in more creative stuff now.

>>19450485
Depends on the brother.

>>19450553
Sort of. There are more lessons to learn with each degree. Each lesson is a tool to help you better yourself.

>>19450877
We don't have the answer to that.

>>19451319
>He was slain a few weeks ago
Quick rundown

What is the main motive or mission of a freemason? What are your aspirations and why are you one?

>>19443880
I think anon is insinuating freemasons rape kids for breakfast, but when in reality they're just having a fun disco party.

>>19451518
My answer is a little dramatic:

The world is an awful place, and there’s not much that we can do about that on the macro scale. What we can do, however, is give men the opportunity to change and improve themselves using moral tools and teachings in order to better implement the moral values they already had. By doing this, a man not only changes himself, but the world immediately around him - and sometimes reaching even further than that. So, we can’t change the world on a macro scale, but we can change it many, many times on a micro scale. Masonry is an organized effort to save the world, one man at a time.

>>19445937 What deity are you referencing good sir

>>19451518
For my lodge being happy and coferring happiness. In my case mostly curiosity and the members of my mother lodge seemed like cool guys when i met them.

It was pretty cool actually, I was part of the media team for a sailing event and the (at the time) master of the lodge and patron of the lodge were taking competitors out on a cruise on the patron's yacht. The lodge also donated significant funding for the event.

I had my nuts licked by grays. Family of masons. Please elaborate why the space niggers are collaborating with masons.

>>19441162
Do you have any significant insights into the future of america's economy?

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>>19451441

>Best way I've ever heard it is from V.:I.: Jason Mitchell: If you can’t get trusted with coffee, you can’t be trusted with anything else, most especially with initiating the next generation of men into the Craft. If you you’re “too good” to do the coffee run, that tells the Lodge everything they need to know about you. Show some initiative and confidence by leveling up the Lodge’s coffee game. Sure, unbranded stuff from the store is sufficient, but use some of your own money, and give the Lodge a treat and indulge them with something amazing they will enjoy (especially if you hate it). Actually serve the coffee. Learn how everyone takes their coffee. Master it. Remember that when you get to the East and show up at a Brothers house/office (with coffee) in need a favor or advice. Corollary: If you’re a WM of a Lodge that can’t implement a full complement of officers, make the newest Entered Apprentices and Fellow Crafts perform this job. It makes their becoming a Master Mason all the more poignant when they’ve been relieved of this role.

I get that you are trying to show integrity but at the end of the day ya'll are fickle bitches. do you know how many "men" can fake all this crap all to feel important with "secrets"

>>19450328
Yes, but not as common as it should be.

>>19451441
>Make it fun!
Working on it.
>Best way I've ever heard it is from V.:I.: Jason Mitchell: If you can’t get trusted with coffee, you can’t be trusted with anything else
Now that's a good one.

>>19451738
>do you know how many "men" can fake all this crap all to feel important with "secrets"
That's their problem. The secrets mean nothing, and we can't vet people for "wrong-think", so all we can do is give them the opportunity to find knowledge and betterment.

>>19441162
Is there any point to becoming a Freemason?

To be more specific: other than "fellowship", is there anything that I personally should expect to gain from the experience?

>>19451752
Education and a scholarly environment.

Would Freemasons accept paranormalfags and alchemyfags instead of believing in an established monotheistic religion? Is monotheism the only requirement?

>>19451890
>Would Freemasons accept paranormalfags and alchemyfags
Of course. Many of us are alchemists.
>instead of believing in an established monotheistic religion?
Instead of? Those aren't religions...
>Is monotheism the only requirement?
No, you can be polytheist. Just as long as you have faith in a supreme creator being.
The specifics are up to you.

>>19441162
> pays to let his brain get fried by deamons

>>19451919
Wouldn't your lodge buddies laugh at you if you said Nature was your supreme being? lol

>>19451927
Naw, but they may not feel it meets the requirement. Personally, i'd have no problem initiating someone who said that, and most guys around here would be the same way.
As long as you were being honest about it, that is.

>>19451927
It doesnt come up outside of your interview. Before you're invited to join the lodge.

Discussion of politic or religion inside the lodge isnt allowed. Discussion of politics is pretty common over dinner though

>>19441771
What are you talking about? Genuinely curious, anon.

>>19441162
I have a doubt that bothered me for 2 years now. I was with a friend once after we came from a bar and he told me he was Freemason and that I could join the thing and yada yada. Anyway, after 20 minutes of being talking drink nonsense a normal car parked in front of where we were and asked my friend to get out while the other kept me talking. After a while he just told me that he had to go and he and the others drove away in their respective. Is that a thing? Or they were just like his drug dealers or any other? He never went back to work on monday

>>19452163
That's a drug deal m8

>>19451542
Whatever God you pray to. In my lodge we have Christians, Jews, Deists, etc. I even know a guy who practices a Native American - Catholic hybrid religion. You just have to belief in some form of God.

>>19451738
Secrets are overrated. The value in Masonry is in practicing Masonry, not in having "the secrets."

>>19451746
I disagree with Brother Jason on a few things, but overall, he's a dang genius.

>>19451752
See >>19451537. Additionally, it's real fun.

>>19451890
You're gonna have to elaborate.

>>19451927
That might not fly, but it just dpends on your Jurisdiction.

>>19452097
He seems to be mentally ill.

>>19452163
Doesn't sound Masonic to me.

>>19452466
Are you my fellow ausfag bro? If so I'm vaguely considering using a trip so genuinely curious anons can get answers from actual bros instead of garbled nonsense from LARPers

>>19441222
wat bruh?

>>19441162
>I'm a Freemason
Cool who cares...
Honestly wow and hey I'm in the OOM idk who cares!

>>19452480
I'm the Texasfag

Fuck you guys for making the KKK
t. A classic nazi

>>19452480
That'd be me. Trips aren't the worst idea, but it can quickly escalate into attention whoring. Thread IDs like on /pol/ would be best.

>>19452717
>t. A classic nazi
Really though? You actually prefer the economic and political principles of national socialism, rather than just wanking over Hitler?

>>19452738
Not to mention all the fucking degeneracy of neo-nazis
>lol let's get tattoos I don't even understand that mean Nazi stuff or whatever
>lol Hitler wanted to kill all nonwhites xd I'm so edgy
The KKK also openly hated the Nazis
Can't wait for the next day of the king knives
They're just a (((tool))) to increase racial tensions

>>19452717
We didn't make the KKK, kthxbai.

>>19452753
you need mental help. Either that, or KYS.

>>19452753
>Not to mention all the fucking degeneracy of neo-nazis
Aye. Makes me sad. Not that i support that economic system, but people being dickheads ruins it for everyone.

>>19441167
LOL

>>19441162
What'd your first cock taste like? Mine was musk, dust and artichoke.

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>>19441162
Why did Shaq admit the earth is flat and then retract it? Did he admit something that you shouldnt?

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>>19453037
When you're cleared at Shaq's level, those questions are irrelevant.

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>>19441162
o brother tell us about the babies farms

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>>19453045
Thats a great non-answer

>>19451319
absolutely nothing on google
enlighten us

>>19441162
Did you stand naked in front of your peers?

So what do freemasons actually do?

>>19441162
What is the esoteric meaning behind KSHTWSST?

>>19441162
How seriously do you take your vow of secrecy and how seriously do other people respond to breaches of it?

>>19453155
No. And if you've seen the majority of members (lol), you'd be very glad for it.

>>19453163
Very. Violators are expelled.

I heard that the Freemasons have their own language, is that true?

>>19453197
Nope

>>19453075
hmm

>>19453188
expelled for saying what exactly?

Are rituals and magic in the masonry real?

If so when and how do you learn them?

>tfw go to join Freemasons and their starter kit included Estrogen, a wig, and make-up

Free masons are slave owning, child molesting faggets

>>19454535
post pic

>>19454535
kek

>>19454526
Ritual is just the term for the shit you need to memorise for the functions of the lodge. Opening, closing, degree work for bros, etc. No magic aside from the magic of networking.

>>19453037
No, we make fun of flat-earthers. Based on our ritual, you would actually be hard-pressed to believe in flat-earth theory.

>>19453075
We don't farm kids, if that's what you're implying.

>>19453155
Nope.

>>19453157
See >>19451537.

>>19453160
Come join Royal Arch to find out. ;)

>>19453197
No. There's weird terms/jargon like in any hobby, but nothing like a language.

>>19454475
Breaking the obligation - this can cover number of things.

>>19454526
I don't know, how do you define magic? If you mean Harry Potter-style stuff, nah. If you're going more for the psychological interpretation of magic, maybe? IDK.

>>19441162
I once had my dick sucked by a Freemason.
I was told by them ALL masons are doing that shit.

Is it true? If so, I would very much like to join.

>>19454475
The secrets which they promised not to divulge. It shows they're not to be trusted.

>>19454526
No.

is missionary position the best position cause it's
encouraged to be done by SQUARES on a LEVEL surface?

captcha
"slow children at play"

>>19453037
Shaq has definitely been known to make fun of people. Like that time he made fun of that deformed kid. He is also someone who likes getting tons of attention. You can see that from all the commercials he is in from the general car insurance to gold Bond.