Moon Landing

>>19433250
>costs billions of dollars to fire a rocket
>ignores ISS missions

Well, if you can come up with a reason to go back to the moon, please present it. It's just a rock covered in dust, not much going on. The only reason America went to the moon was to beat Russia there, it was more of a pride thing than anything.

Money shouldn't be an issue for this long. Movies cost a lot of money but we make hundreds of them. It would literally cost 2 big budget movies to make one rocket to fly to space. 2 pirates of the carribean movies. I would sacrifice that whole franchise to explore space or just fucking land on the moon again.

>>19433271
This

>>19433284
If you want to reply to someone and you are op you can do so by clicking on the post number at the upper right corner of said post

A reason to go back to the moon? Well people go a lot of places multiple times. People go to see the Grand Canyon every year and that's just a big rock covered in dust so I think going back to one in SPACE is worth it. And it might be nice to see a different country go.

>>19433289
Thanks. I'm a new fag.

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>>19433291
>nice to see a different country go
Go back to Russia, comrade

>>19433301
You don't think it's weird that for 50 years America is the only one to land on the moon?

>>19433312
No because I'm an American

>>19433250
>America is the only country that's ever landed on the moon
w a t

It's unrealistic how unphased we are that we have landed on the moon at all. Where's the pride? A country so prideful in itself but not in the moon. The whole world should have more pride in the fact that we even landed there in the first place. But we aren't. It just seems very brushed off.

>>19433340
I think it was and is still pretty big deal. Do you seriously think people don't care?

>>19433329
Man mission. Look it up.

>>19433344
If it's a big deal why haven't we gone back? We should want to keep learning about it and if anything trying to see how resourceful we can make it

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>>19433250
We are still doing shit in space. We are going to Mars to build colonies in plastic domes to withstand the dust storms, the cold and the unbreathable atmosphere. It's going to be crazy expensive, though, and hard to convince taxpayers to pay for. But don't worry, that's why we have billionaires. Elon Musk, a visionary entrepreneur and the inspiration for Iron Man, is stepping up to the task, putting up his own hard-earned money alongside just a little bit of the U.S. government's to get the job done. When, in the early 2030s, Musktown Commune is firmly established and its successes promoted in a documentary available for free direct brain-computer interface streaming, the cyber-proles will rejoice at the prospect of being able to ship off to spend the rest of their lives on the Martian frontier and be thankful for wise old Elon and the continued existence of others of his social standing for making the whole adventure possible.

>>19433346
"The Soviet Union, the United States and China are the only countries so far to have launched manned space flights. India's space agency declared in 2010 that it wanted to launch a human mission to the Moon by 2020, and scientists have indicated that China could do the same by 2025."

Google told me this. AFAIK 3 countries have set foot on the moon.

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2001: A Space Odyssey one year, a real life moon landing the next

>>19433350
We've gone there multiple times. Manned missions aren't always necessary, especially since it's mostly just sample collecting, which can be done with a rover. We've also done tons of flybys which help us observe the surface better, and I'm no scientist but I assume it helps the instruments read what's under the surface better with a flyby. Having people in the spacecraft is cool and helpful when exploring new territory, but it's not always necessary.

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>>19433363
please suck elon musk's dick harder

>>19433374
the moon landing really was Kubrick's best work desu.

>>19433363
Hi Elon, how long til mars?

>>19433397
Moon landing kino

>>19433284
And how much do you think two movies generate? What would be the revenue for going to the moon right now? Maybe they could show it on theaters or whatever but nothing beats obvious entertainment.

>>19433412
Ok ok, let's just spend alllll of our money on entertainment and not advancing human civilization and our knowledge for our own existence because it won't give us anything in return for doing so

>>19433424
What can we 'advance' in human civilization by wasting billions of civilizations dollars so some guys can to a dusty rock in the sky to collect smaller dusty rocks that we already have samples of anyways?

>>19433424
I don't see any god damn point in going back to the moon unless we can terraform it. When that day comes we should just turn the moon into a giant farm, that would be super useful.

Still missing the point, which is, we have the money and resources but we choose not to use them. We can go "back" to the moon but we don't. Which makes me skeptical that we even went in the first place.

if we wanted to, by now the moon could have been a second earth but we stopped going.

https://youtu.be/BK-uatwOOeA
This is lol so fucking fake. Is this guy the best bs NASA can offer.

>>19433340
Because its absolute fake. Jesus Christ we went to the moon and live steamed it in 1967 to earth oooooooo k.

>>19433424
You mean like the CIA and all the billions wasted in the middle east. You could simply take all the drug money that the US gov pretend not to have and easily have enough money.

>>19433329
Yes. ... That's common knowledge

>>19433365
Manned space flights doesn't mean they landed on the moon. I can't believe I'm falling for this baiiiit

>>19433643
this

>>19433363
iron man existed way before muskrat wtf are you so gay for musky?

>>19433363
Elon you are literally the most horrible human alive. I'd rather be stuck in a room with Robert Mugabe for a day than spend five minutes in the same city as you.

>>19433365
You googled to find out who's been to the moon? And then didn't even come up with anything resembling a good answer?! Are you just stupid or trolling?

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>>19433388
>>19434234
Would it be gay or sucking dick to promote Musk and his noteworthy achievements if I, the anonymous 4chan poster behind the "young-elon.jpg" post, actually WAS Elon himslef?? Now there's a thought. This is a publicly accessible site, after all. You don't even have to use Tor or be a tech-savvy computer whiz like PayPal co-founder Elon Musk to post on this board. And would it not make a good deal of business sense for Musk to self-promote? With so many incredible achievements to speak of, it is easy to do for someone in his position. If that offends you or changes your attitude towards Musk companies or products as a consumer, well then I'm quite sorry and hope you'll give us another shot.
>>19433398
I'm generally cautious and not the biggest fan of AI in general, although I do think it would be kind of neat to meld with the machines and become a cyborg, but the first missions to Mars will have to be manned by robots. This will happen before Trump's 1st term is over. Manned SpaceX mission before the end of Trump's 2nd term.
>>19434755
That's a dreadful thing to say. I'm also skeptical that you would even know if we were in the same city. Elon Musk is part of the jet set and regularly spends 5 minutes in 5 different cities in 5 different countries in one day, while you are a fucking anonymous pleb who probably works at McDonald's and doesn't even have their own private jet.

"why aren't we wasting millions of dollars to stand on a rock for no reason?" there is nothing up there that makes it worth going. You're a fucking moron, OP

>>19435129
Thank god I've got both hide and filter options, neither of which was invented by that Elon pos, both of which he'd (((you'd))) probably take credit for, and both of which I'll now use.

>>19433250
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRgDB8jXRE
Straight from the horses mouth

>>19433464
Holmes you can not speak the logic of economics to a child any more than my dog understand my rambling on physics.

>>19433467
He-3. That'll save us from our energy crisis

Good job Kubrick

>>19433609
Well, the problem with that is that it has no atmosphere and constantly gets pelted by space rocks

>>19435157
I'm sure there's something we can figure out if we explore the moon long enough

We step on the moon once and we're done? We know everything about it now?

>>19436086
6 times we landed on the moon but i agree with you there is probably alot more we could do with it.

only reason we ever went was war. a shame really. it seems to be the only unifying and driving force the United States ever had. war

>>19433595
nigga someone already answered why we went there in the first place. It was a bitchy slapfight between the US and the Soviet Union called the Space Race. No one in the space program really cared about going to the moon specifically, more that they get there before the pinkos did. And if bitchy pride against commies isn't a believable reason for Cold War era scientists to launch a man to the moon, I don't know what is because the majority of shit humanity does is because of bitchy pride.

>>19436086
I get your sentiment and don't disagree with it, but think about what you're saying. "Let's spend a whole lot of money risking the lives of our best and brightest to go somewhere really far away. We'll think of something to do when we get there." That's a silly thing to propose. If you have a specific experimental goal or a specific economic incentive then by all means, send a mission outfitted to achieve that goal. Just going for the fuck of it is dangerous and expensive and wasteful. It's not a pleasure cruise.
The next serious push for lunar exploration will likely be privately owned surveying/prospecting probes that cheap to build, cheap to launch, and specifically designed to look for easily exploitable natural resources. It's conceivable that unmanned exploration and exploitation may be our species' entire future on the moon. Realistically, it's cheaper and more practical to have earth-orbital settlements than lunar ones anyway.

https://youtu.be/BI_ZehPOMwI

These niggas are hiding something. Do they sound and look like they are the first men to go to the moon and back?

>>19436086
It's a rock. What is there to learn by sending a human that a robot can't find? And robots are a lot cheaper

Maybe we were told not to go back.

>>19433250
You realise NASA is funded by the government, right? There's no interest in lunar missions so there's no funding for them. It's pretty fucking simple.

Landing on the moon was a cold war dick-waving exercise, for no other reason than the americucks were buttblasted the soviets beat them into space.

>>19433250
There was a story that the Earth is running out of a specific isotope of Plutonium. I saw it on TV about a year ago. NASA has a machine that can manufacture it at about a rate of about 1Kg/year. The shuttle takes about 1.5 Kg. I wish I could reference this for you. But the point was about developing or different types of way of generating lift to get of the planet.

>>19433424
Movies are privately funded. A mission to the moon would be (most likely) government funded. Are you really this autistic or are you just plain retarded?

>>19433250
It's rather simple. Putting all conspiracy theories about aliens aside, there is nothing out there. Well, not on our moon anyways. Just to get to the moon will cost a bunch of money that nobody wants to waste since there isn't any profit on the moon, or anything interesting at all.

We can't go further too, so the money goes to better objectives; maintaining the ISS and studying the whole space engineering subject further.

Some probes are still being sent but there isn't much point at this time for it.

>>19439153
Except the shuttle doesn't use plutonium

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>>19433259
>Doesn't ignore ISS missions

>>19433259
A human hasn't been to the moon since 1973. That's only 4 years after the first. Never after that. Think about that for a second.

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>>19433259

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>>19433365
>India's space agency declared in 2010 that it wanted to launch a human mission to the Moon by 2020

How is this even remotely paranormal?

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>>19433595
Who are you quoting you fucking nigger?
Why do people always fucking do this?

>>19439472
America went to that dusty shit-pebble 6 times

what the fuck more is there to do? collect more moon dust? some more rocks?

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>>19433250
Russia landed there before us. We knew this, but still lied to our own people. More misinformed, overtly trusting bunch of a-holes. Kek. Made Trump an easy detour, honestly /pol/. Desperate people take suggestions from anonymous web sites. When it was actually anonymous. The Ronin never died. But freedom is in the ICU.

>>19440275
Most of the "moon rocks", like the ones the astronauts brought to world leaders, were just petrified wood. They believed the world was easy to deceive(and it was when they had utter control of information). But time is the balancing force.

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LARP much?

>>19440340
For
>>19433363

Ffs it's been awhile.

>>19440303
einstime sounds like /ourguy/

>>19440324
There was one case where a thief stole a valuable moon rock and replaced it with a piece of petrified wood so that the owner wouldn't notice something was missing.

That's not the same things as "most moon rocks are petrified wood."

>>19439472
1973? and it's 2017 yea we would at least have a base there by now, just sayin. Meanwhile scientists still studying toads.

how about a moon excavation?

For anybody who is familiar with Richard Hoagland, I do not agree with some of his theories. However, on a side note, he pointed out a pretty remarkable incident:

https://archive.org/stream/DarkMissionTheSecretHistoryOfNASA_201611/Richard%20Hoagland/Dark%20Mission%20-%20The%20Secret%20History%20Of%20NASA_djvu.txt

search for "great coat guy".

The tl;dr is, on an official JPL press event, during the Apollo 11 mission, a mysterious person distributed handouts to the reporters, saying the moon landing is a hoax and all was staged etc. The idea here is that they planted the meme of the moon hoax on this event, only to have it easily recalled once doubts on the official story arise. So the faked-moon-landing-story was a false-false-flag operation, covering the real story, or as Neil Armstrong called it later, the "truth protective layers".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxsL6msdwE

One of possible "true" stories could go like this: They did indeed go to the moon, but could not show all the footage, because there were artifacts from ancient aliens/living aliens/whatever. Hence they had to fake at least _some_ of the recordings. They knew that even with the best trickery, maybe even today with CGI etc., they could not fake it perfectly, so they installed said add-on "security meme" only to resurrect it when needed.

>>19440464
nahh, I say the man is a liar.

The moon landing was fake because the moon is a simulation.

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>>19440414
>scientists still studying toads.
There are psychoactive toads. Are there psychoactive moon rocks?

Moon landing was just the beginning. It was the establish contact and/or setup a moon base. >>19442726

>>19433250
We went the moon isn't that far I would be disappointed if we didn't go. It cost way too much money for the technology at the time. We don't have the infrastructure and tooling for it now.

The real reason we never went back was because there are skinwalkers on the moon.

>>19443119
Or we could have setup black budgets to build military bases there.

>>19443126
What's that?

>>19433424
Do you think the entire human race is a 13 year old deciding what to do with his time and allowance lol
The people making movies arent the same people in charge of nasa you fucking dult

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>>19433250
>It's just a rock covered in dust, not much going on

If you say so

>>19443155
That's a terrible quality picture.

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>>19443155

Sorry, heres a better one

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>>19443155
I wonder if this unnatural brightness somehow involved in an illusion that makes clouds appear behind the moon.
I wonder if bright objects always make thin objects become transparent.
I wonder if author of this picture was aware of this and kicked brightness up just to get this sort of picture.

>>19433271
there is "lunar water" on the moon (different than actual water but can still be mined for fuel) not to mention we could have a base on the moon, for launching further space exploration mission. why would you want to launch from the moon instead of earth?? because it take a shit ton of fuel to get out of earths orbit...if we had a base on the moon where there is no atmosphere it would be less cost prohibitive!! there is no reason why we shouldn't have g9ne back to the moon...unless we actually never went there in the first place (see van Allen radiation belt)

>>19433847
this

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>>19443287
>>19443164
>>19443155


see for yourself

https://youtu.be/SdojiTkJi_4

>>19433388
>that fag from youtube
redditor detected

>>19433271
>just a rock covered in dust
don't forget the helium 3, titanium, platinum, and additional rare earth elements (gadolinium, terbium, etc)

>>19443477
>>19443155

This is an optical illusion due to exposure settings.
- the moon is over exposed, so it shows up as extremely bright
- the layers of clouds in the path of the moonlight have different densities
- the thicker clouds still block enough of the moonlight so that they can still be seen even though there is a bright moon directly behind them (and they appear to be in front of the moon)
- the thinner cloud layers are just not thick enough to block the overexposed moonlight and the moon shines through them, making it look like they are being blocked by the moon.

If you think about it logically, if the moon were really travelling in the cloud layer, many passenger flights would easily see it and it would also be a flight hazard since planes usually fly above the cloud layer to avoid turbulence.

>>19440270
As you may have noticed, the paranormal board is now 'religion and conspiracies'.

>>19433250
>probe to Pluto
>landing on comets
>everything Cassini

>no major space activity

Lol guys, space doesnt even exist.

>>19433250
>Moon Landing
Never happened.

>>19442145
Don't be an idiot. The moon is flat bro