Do christians actually believe this is gonna come out of the

>inb4 MUH METAPHOR
In that case I'm perfectly justified in saying god is a metaphor as is jeebus

5 dudes with mosin nagants could drop that cunt in one sweep. I hope it's real. Love to see that shit.

>>19424801
>god is a metaphor

Sure, but what is God a metaphor of? The Beast represents human kingdoms and states in opposition to God. If God is indeed a metaphor, what does he represent?

>>19424801
lmao but it is

A metaphor is an image. An image is a reflection. You're mistaking the shadow for the object itself.

>>19424792

>>19424792
It could just be fucking skyscraper size if that shit was real, anon. Not that anyone believes in this shit really. Right?

>>19425485
God is metaphor for being gullible and stupid

>>19425578
i dont think you know what a metaphor is

Our seven black brothers.

>>19425485
The ideal. Go watch Jordan Peterson's lecture series on maps of meaning.

>>19424792
Oh yeah, that thing.

>>19425578
*tips*

>>19424792
I see you can't read between lines op
The beast represent the empires of men, even a child can figure this out

Great job falling for the [literal] aspect, when in fact, the Bible was not intended be taken or studied as such.

PROTIP: It is an ancient book based on numerous subjects, including astronomy.

christians told me God gives dreams and visions. So this is probably not taken literally.

>>19424792
Yeah, obviously
Haven't you read the bible ? -
Verse Khalifa 12:12-22
"And jebus & medusa had an orgy at the zoo, and from their passion was borneth the beast"

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>>19425704
I see what you did there

>>19424792
Revelation is full of metaphors

>>19425652
>something is nonsensical in my infallible book that I take literally otherwise?
>it must be a metaphor

xtians everybody

Gnostics believe very crazy shit but by observing reality it strangely makes sense, they don't need metaphors.

>>19425485
>Sure, but what is God a metaphor of?
Not a Christian, but from what I understood it ended up personifying the natural order in everything but name.

>>19425716
Who are you quoting?

>>19424792
nope.

>>19424792
Anon, revelation is written in prophetic lingo. If you look at all the other places in the bible were prophecies are to be found about other beasts, you're going to learn that beasts in the bible are a codeword for ruthless empires. The beast in your pic is going to be the final culmination, the final empire of man, lead by noneother than antichrist himself. The mark of the beast is going to be requirement to buy and sell in that empire.

>>19426074
Beat me to it.

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>>19424792
heaven in hebrew
>hshmayim
water in hebrew
>mayim

the beast comes out of the "water" aka heaven
feet of a bear
>Ursa major
body like unto a leopard (like unto, not a leopard)
>Leo minor
mouth of a lion
>Leo

see constillations starting from Leo
>Leo
this provides the mouth
what's right above it?
>minor Leo
this provides the body
and finnaly, what's above that?
>Ursa Major


i've been saying this for months, and the four horsemen are
>Jupiter = White holding a bow, in Leo
>Mars = Red (war), in Virgo
>Venus = "Black" holding scales, in Libra (scales in latin)
>Saturn = Pale, death (cult of Saturn), right above Scorpio (death where is your sting)
>Pluto = Hades following. in Sagittarius.

Check stellarium at around December 20-25, 2015

so, yeh, there you go, yah cunt.

also the Ram with the voice of a Dragon, most likely Israel with the "Voice" of the Vatican.


see pic

>>19427397
and the two witnesses are pisces with either, uranus or neptune cycling through it.

>they are about to die soon.

>>19427397
Holy shit can you imagine being this retarded.

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>>19427413
that's a very compelling argument you have there, you should consider applying for some funding, you'll definitely go places

>>19424801
Revelation is overtly written in that style because it is a prophecy while the other books are not.

>>19427434
No, they're 8th hand accounts written a century or two after the events to which they refer. Clearly they're much more reliable sources.

>>19425966
I'm no genius, but he might be quoting the guy that he's quoting.

>>19427455
>they're 8th hand accounts written a century or two after the events to which they refer

...which has nothing to do with what I said. At all.

>>19424792
when you're this fucking dumb

>>19427397
Does this mean that the Satan's army will come to our world disguised as an alien invasion?

Remain a blasphemer at your own peril, You dumb bitch. Repent or get fucked.

You have been warned.

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>>19424792
>If giga nigga was a lion

>>19424792
I don't believe but I hope, that'd be sick

giant lion monster motherfucker

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>>19427792
>oooh so scary

daily reminder christians also believe jesus is floating in space

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>>19424801
>>19425485
>what is God a metaphor of?
see
>>19425621

God is a mental framework, not a man in the sky. God is the perfect ideal, it's as simple as that. God is the conception of perfection as such. God is the global manifest authority of the world: If you hit yourself in the brick, it will hurt, if you take two steps, you will move forward, etc. God is the law of nature. God is nature. God is the reason there is nature. God is the world.

Jesus Christ is a metaphor as well. A metaphor for YOU. Jesus is the "son of man." He faces death at the end of the story as penance for the imperfection (sin) of man. That is to say, we are not perfect, and so one day all of us will die. He is the Son of God because you are only a discrete portion of the God described above.

The entire bible is metaphor. Almost all spiritual texts are. They are conveying ideas which are very hard to grasp in general and even harder to grasp using the language and sets of established ideas which existed ~4000 years ago. They had to use very nonexplicit, metaphorical language to really wrap their heads around the nature of human experience.

The entire body of Abrahamic religion, both canonical and apocryphal, is a
conception of the human experience and the nature of life on earth.

>>19427397
FYI Lions and Leopards were called the same name in most languages until like 1830

>>19424792
Daniel and John both used the same symbols of beast coming out of the sea.
Daniel 7:3 "And four huge beasts were coming up out of the sea
Revelation 13:1 "And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea"
Daniel explains what the beasts mean
Daniel 7:17 "The four great beasts are four kings that will rise from the earth"
Isaiah 17:12 explains what the waters mean
"Woe to the many nations that rage, they rage like the raging sea! Woe to the peoples who roar they roar like the roaring of great waters!"

It's not that complicated. The beasts describe specific kings or governments that rise from turbulent mankind. When they have multiple horns it means they are multiple peoples working together as one. As shown by the two horned beast which described the Medo-Persian Empire.

>>19428281
To sum up what that means.
In ancient times it was predicted that a government would arise during the last days in which many nations would work together as one.
That could be as simple as describing globalism. Or it may be more specific and means something more like the EU or the UN.

>>19425485
Just like the Beast is the Roman military, and the Anti-Christ is Nero, God was a heavenly rightful king who at least some of the dynasties claimed descent from which led directly to Jesus once those kings had been wiped out and replaced by leaders seen as Roman (or just Helenistic) rulers.

>>19428309
> it was predicted that a government would arise during the last days in which many nations would work together as one.
Practically a text book description of an Empire.
The Revelation is a thinly veiled polemic against the Romans and incorporating a number of first and second century conspiracy theories like Nero not really being dead and returning to the throne by force.

>>19424792
Jesus likes talking in parables i guess God does too

>>19428384
No, not like an Empire.
Distinct nations that are separate, but stand on equal footing.

>>19428236
What about the resurrection?

>>19428453
If you are a positive force on the world you will live forever in the world, even after your death.

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>>19425485
>what is God a metaphor of?
Om (ultimate reality, entirety of the universe, truth, divine, supreme spirit, cosmic principles, knowledge)

>>19425485
God is the word. Logos. Logic. The most high or final boss. Godlike etc. Only a being of sentience could think of a greater being. In the beginning there is the word, and the word is God.

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>there are actually people on this board RIGHT NOW who think christians belive God is a man in the sky

No wonder you retards are atheists, nobody would believe that shit

>>19428397
To respect free will. If things were given literally, then everyone would have an innate bias/be compelled to do things they otherwise wouldn't.

Kinda like how turning the other cheek always leaves the waters at peace, for a lack of better words.

Basically, it's like this, who would forget God and who wouldn't? Giving literal prophecies would make any fool believe to the point that they have been impressed upon. When something impresses itself upon someone, it creates a natural bias.

Like the old saying, can't remember but it's like this, "everyone goes into everything with a little bias."

Not true if one doesn't allow things to impress upon them. Unfortunately, we all have, but are capable of not being impressed upon.

It's the same reason why a loved one might hire a detective/look at personal electronic info/ or even get a friend to purposefully test the waters of their lover.

They want to see who they really are, because around them, they act differently.

>>19427471
I think you're on to something there my dude

>>19428513
There have definitely been attempts by every religion that has had intellectual adherents to remove its doctrine from the embarrassing myths of the average people. The Greeks did it, the Romans did it, Hindu's still do it.

None of them have ever really succeeded. For all the attempts to establish a higher philosophical base you always wind up with a majority of Christians who essentially hold bronze age polytheist views with a dash of zoroastrian influence. A whole host of gods and characters who are gods or demigods in all but name.

>>19428489
It basically symbolizes human knowledge and the great question of the beginning of everything. It is a huge puzzle and mystery. The ultimate word.

>>19428552
The higher philosophical base predates the "embarrassing myths," not the other way around.

Biblical literalism did not even exist before the 19th century.

>>19428567
Sorry, but we have archaeology now which has produced sculptures from antiquity before idolotry went out of style in the levant that depict Yahweh as a personified deity complete with a consort goddess.

Biblical literalism and other less advanced views have cropped up time and again over the centuries because at least one of the sources used in the creation of the old testament that we know today (the J source) essentially depicted Yahweh in much the same way that more familiar myths depict Zeus, or Marduk.

>>19428604
>Sorry, but we have archaeology now which has produced sculptures from antiquity before idolotry went out of style in the levant that depict Yahweh as a personified deity complete with a consort goddess.
That does not contradict what I say at all? Humans have used the personification of ideals as a way of conveying those ideals since before written history.

>more familiar myths depict Zeus, or Marduk.

Those are metaphors too. Some of them are the same damn metaphors which forked when they spread to different cultures.

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>>19428513
>he doesn't know about the firmament of heaven

for the longest time christians literally believed God lived just a bit higher than the clouds

of course when they got btfo by science and reality they weaseled away and pretended it's something else

>>19428613
Then we're talking past one another because as long as those metaphors have been used there have been people who interpreted them on the exoteric instead of the esoteric level.

In Christianities specific case the Gnostic esoteric beliefs may have come first, but they were overwhelmed and wiped out by the exoteric versions and only started being read in (new and different) esoteric ways later.

>>19428635
>>19428617

>there have been people who interpreted them on the exoteric instead of the esoteric level.
There are people who think Alchemy is about the literal transmutation of lead to gold, but that doesn't mean that is what it's really about.

You shouldn't bother considering what the 80% of humanity who are barely conscious think. Most people will be wrong about ANY topic because most people are idiots.

>>19424792
The Beast is Rome, dude. It's sort of already happened, hasn't it? Taking control of Christianity.

Though given how fragmented it is now, I guess this is the "New Kingdom of God." What a shitstorm it is, too. Protestants are even worse than the Catholics.

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>>19424792
>he didnt read the first page of the Revelation of Saint John the Divine in which it explains that everything in the revelation is symbolic

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>falling for the "God isn't real, Jesus isn't the Messiah" meme

ISHYGDDT

Repent and sin no more, brothers. The end is near!

>>19428236
All mythological heroes are embodiments of the ultimate values of society at the time. Whether that be jeebus, hercules or king arthur. All share the same traits (empowered/born from a god, face the unknown/chaos/dragon, and return with knowledge). Their relevance continues as long as the traits they embody remain relevant in a given culture.

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>>19428726
Christ is the Maitreya: "According to Buddhist tradition, Maitreya is a bodhisattva who will appear on Earth in the future, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma. According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor to the present Buddha, Gautama Buddha (also known as Śākyamuni Buddha).[1][2] The prophecy of the arrival of Maitreya refers to a time in the future when the dharma will have been forgotten by most on the terrestrial world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya

>>19428726
You've been saying that for thousands of years.
The book still even has Jesus telling his audience that at least some of them will still be around for the end.

So either the audience had a bunch of immortals in it, or the end of the world the bible depicts Jesus talking about was the sack of Jerusalem by the Romans and the Revelation is an acid-trip fanfic that brings back the apocalyptic end of the world stuff because people liked that.

Probably why the committee that decided on the books that would go in and the books that would get burned almost put it in the burn category.

>>19428732
Jesus does not share any similar traits to the hero. He was born in a barn and raised poor, he then lives for three years as a homeless vagabond that is hated and despised by his own people, and then dies a miserable death by crucifixion, taking the place of Barabas who was a guilty shithead (you and me), while the congregation in front of him taunted him until his last breath. He is literally nothing like those heroes...

>>19428804
Son of a god (see: hercules). Endures temptation of 40 days (see: hercules' tasks). Overcomes death (hades) to demonstrate the truth of his lessons.

>>19424792
Hi OP.
Going to be sad seeing you go to hell, please don't make that choice.

>>19428823
40 days comes from the Torah, not Hercules. In Genesis Noah is in the storm 40 days and 40 nights, and Moses goes up into Mount Sinai 40 days and 40 nights. Moses wanders the desert with his people 40 years as punishment. The number 40 is both literal and a sign from God to signify tribulation. Son of god existed before Jesus; Adam is a son of god in the Bible.

>>19424792
The Beast is actually a Prince of Hell named Sorath

>>19428456
>If you are a positive force on the world
Whelp, everyone here is fucked.

>>19424792
the bible is made up of books, dumb ass. Historical poems, biographies, histories, essays and accounts.. that sort of thing. that beast is in a dream, jesus is a person written about, god is god... not hard to grasp if you can read. its not a pop-up book either you might need to at least be able to read at a 4th grade level

What's with all of the fedora shit on /x/ right now?

>>19425577
Missiles motherfucker. How about thirty of them and pussy here turns into the biggest steak of all time.

>>19428867
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11

>Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

>>19425578
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora

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>>19424792

>>19428236

Imperfection can't be made from Perfection you damn gnostic.

>>19428617
What's wrong with this? You don't really believe everything (((Nasa))) tells you anon do you?

>>19424792
you mixed the beast and the dragon in the pic. or some one else did. also the beast has many different versions in all versions of the bible and even per century in some cases

current king james version is like a body of a panther, claws of a bear, teeth of a lion, face of a lamb. each symbolic but not the original

the dragon is a government system. typically thought to be a european union but the proper way of looking at it would be a global system. new world order. the united nations. you can argue all the power was in EU nations but a EU super state is kinda pathetic

however this is the tribulation period now officially (seven 7s after israel is put back on the map with a blood moon) and so much has happened that this is almost a punishment phase for the dragon. everything fell apart at the same time. its like if the dragon was the transition from league of nations to U.N. they played their cards to soon and were to sure of themselves. though they had a traitor. some one who wasnt to pleased with what had been done

they are rebuilding now but the last attempt failed so nobody is going to stop what they are doing. the EU shot up the U.N representatives and held fake U.N meetings. they got caught. then later africa would try the same thing and they got caught

>>19430535
>the dragon is a government system

And it will be worshipped.

>it's a government!

What is wrong with being a sinner?
In there were no sinners god would have created hell for nothing, let's fill hell out brothers, for god

Maybe it can't die

>>19429134
Somebody told them that they would be silly if they believed, it worked and they think it works for everybody else.

>>19424792
You talkin bout the Antichrist? That thing that doesn't exist because it's actually the two great beasts the BEHEMOTH of the land and LEVIATHAN of the SEA

>>19430553
Look at Behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.

What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!

Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.

Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron.

It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.

The hills bring it their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.

Under the lotus plants it lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround it.

A raging river does not alarm it;
it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.

Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
or trap it and pierce its nose?

Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook
or tie down its tongue with a rope?

Can you put a cord through its nose
or pierce its jaw with a hook?

Will it keep begging you for mercy?
Will it speak to you with gentle words?

Will it make an agreement with you
for you to take it as your slave for life?

Can you make a pet of it like a bird
or put it on a leash for the young women in your house?

Will traders barter for it?
Will they divide it up among the merchants?

Can you fill its hide with harpoons
or its head with fishing spears?

If you lay a hand on it,
you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

Any hope of subduing it is false;
the mere sight of it is overpowering.

No one is fierce enough to rouse it.
Who then is able to stand against me?

Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
Everything under heaven belongs to me.

>>19430578
“I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs,
its strength and its graceful form.

Who can strip off its outer coat?
Who can penetrate its double coat of armor[b]?

Who dares open the doors of its mouth,
ringed about with fearsome teeth?

Its back has[c] rows of shields
tightly sealed together;

each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.

They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.

Its snorting throws out flashes of light;
its eyes are like the rays of dawn.

Flames stream from its mouth;
sparks of fire shoot out.

Smoke pours from its nostrils
as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.

Its breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames dart from its mouth.

Strength resides in its neck;
dismay goes before it.

The folds of its flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.

Its chest is hard as rock,
hard as a lower millstone.

When it rises up, the mighty are terrified;
they retreat before its thrashing.

The sword that reaches it has no effect,
nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.

Iron it treats like straw
and bronze like rotten wood.

Arrows do not make it flee;
slingstones are like chaff to it.

A club seems to it but a piece of straw;
it laughs at the rattling of the lance.

Its undersides are jagged potsherds,
leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.

It leaves a glistening wake behind it;
one would think the deep had white hair.

Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

>>19424801
>A metaphor is used in prophecy, therefore the entire book is a metaphor too XDDDD
You are the worst kind of person

>>19431545
PICK AND CHOOSE!
PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR METAPHORS!
YOU ARE A HUGE BOOK!
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE METAPHORS!

>>19424792
It can heal it self also it's a alien invasion not a fucking lion.

>>19428726
Amen brother

>>19431575
>responds with all caps having no counter
I know it's already been posted by a guy in here but the very first page of the Revelation literally says that it is symbolic. Check for yourself I guess it's like 300 words unless that's too much for you.

>>19431759
It says nowhere that it's symbolic; it actually says ' Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. '
Which is of course bullshit because 2000 years have passed and fuck all has happened

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>>19431825
HMMM SEEMS PRETTY SYMBOLIC TO ME HMMMMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK HMMMM MAYBE THIS BOOK IS NOT INTENDED TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>tfw you have to actually take time to read the book for this ignorant baby

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>>19431867
>these things are symbolic
>says literally nowhere else that a thing is symbolic
>end times are still coming guys an actual angel told me
>BUT LETS JUST POST ALL CAPS TO SHOW WERE SMART HAHAHA HHMHHMHMHMH
>ur a babby btw fak u

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>>19431825
2 Peter 3:8
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Btw have you read any of the prophets or even a single prophecy from the Bible? If you did you would know that it's literally riddled with symbolism. Of course you haven't though, or you wouldn't put yourself to an open shame like right now.

>>19431926
There's a lot of symbolism but usually it's actually pointed out what a thing means.
They say 'Babylon will lash out like a beast' and not a 'twelve-foot monstrosity will come out of the sea and shit in your garden'.

>>19424792
I don't believe in god or any of that shit, but I do believe that there is some sort of apocalyptic end boss that will at least try to end humanity like this fucker's supposed to do. That said, I think that if this guy does show up he will be massive as shit, so rifles alone won't be able to drop him unless it's a full army with at least high power assault rifles. I do think, however, that with today's technology we could indeed drop a nine-story biblical lion fucker within minutes.

>>19430541
What's wrong with being garbage?
If there was no garbage, man would have invented trashcans for nothing. Let's fill the trash with perfectly good things, for man.

>>19428236
>God is the concept of perfection
>God is the law of nature
>God is nature
>God is the world
Nature, the world, and even the concept of perfection do not need to be called "God" to exist. These things do not need God to exist, these things (even concepts) exist without God and to say they are God shows a lack of philisophical forethought. What is the use of God if he is just nature, just the universe? At that point why need the childlike "God" moniker in the first place

>>19424792
Christianity is retarded and this thread is stupod

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>>19428146
>space
(((space)))

>>19427713
most likely, see revelations 12, 3 1/2 years from now, he gets tossed down.

>>19428245
>FYI Lions and Leopards were called the same name in most languages until like 1830
that's fine and all, but if i'm quoting the book of revelations it says, "like unto a leopard.", and a baby lion looks like unto a leopard


see pic
>Like unto a leopard.
don't the lion cub lookit like a leopardo?