Why fake the curve? FLAT EARTH

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More attempted fakes

https://youtu.be/Bns4R5ZsVUw

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If we spend BILLIONS (NASA makes 60mil A DAY) WHY can't they just take a picture from a satellite that ISN'T FUCKED WITH???

>>19409583
https://youtu.be/edsUrLXrlLg
https://youtu.be/jJcsZ6azPrQ

Also it was already explained to you in the debunk thread that the "hotspot" is a break in cloudcover over water, a more reflective surface than a cloud.

Why did you feel the need to post an entirely new thread with a vid that's been refuted more than once?

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>>19409583
Let me know when flat earthers first successfully map out the Earth on a flat map

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Just stop posting on 4chan entirely, please.

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>>19409583
You can repeat all the math and logic you want about WHY the earth isn't flat, but that won't explain WHY we are being decieved about the true shape of earth.

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>>19409591

>>19409594
They do, all the time.
You just say they're ALL not real.

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Believing that people believe in flat earth is a psy-op. Don't fall for it.

>>19409600
Because flat earthers can't exist in a thread where their claims are refuted. They need to spawn new threads whenever they get called out to try and trap people.

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>>19409600

Here is a playlist of flat earth weather balloon footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RATP53l9MA&feature=youtu.be&list=PLQCOKOZuhSS2L8beLNb9qHNdRJu3qHnSU

Sure looks flat to me. Based on the curve, we should see 8(miles squared) based on height
or
8in.(distance in miles^2)

Which means to take the square root of the distance traveled in miles and then multiply that figure by eight inches.

So for example, if you traveled one mile, the formula would look something like this;

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature

And for the first ten miles traveled of curvature in inches…

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature
8(2×2) = 32 Inches of total curvature
8(3×3) = 72 Inches of total curvature
8(4×4) = 128 Inches of total curvature
8(5×5) = 200 Inches of total curvature
8(6×6) = 288 Inches of total curvature
8(7×7) = 392 Inches of total curvature
8(8×8) = 512 Inches of total curvature
8(9×9) = 648 Inches of total curvature
8(10×10) = 800 Inches of total curvature

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>>19409583

Timezones still work on a flat earth

>>19409583
Where are the satellites?

>>19409625
Then why are the continents so heavily skewed?

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>>19409583

WHY DO WE SPEND BILLIONS FOR BULLSHIT????

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN OP'S GIF???

https://youtu.be/HpBEduGMapw?t=908

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>>19409583

Heatmaps also make more sense of a flat earth model

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>>19409622
Why won't you simply address the fact of the curve in the dogcam vid, that's clearly pointed out for you, instead of pinballing to different claims?

In either case, the curvature table you posted is verified in the helicopter observation here:
>>19398454

And the Toronto image, related.

>>19409625
Of course they would, because you’re transposing a globular time model onto a golbular projection

sage

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>>19409583

If I pour water in a cup, it takes the form of the object (a cup). If I pour water on a ball....

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>>19409641
>>19409600

Good thing you have an explanation for everything.

Theres no fucking curve, I've seen the dogcam video a millions times.

>OH BUT THE HOTSPOT BELOW THE SUN IS MUH REFRACTION AND CLOUDS

The sun isn't 93 millions miles away, and the hotspot in the video gives it away completely

>>19409583
Hotspot? It's a reflection, retard. What should it really look like?

>>19409651
But this is is circular logic.

>Water is always level
>So the seas can't curve
>Why can't the seas curve with gravity?
>Because water is always level

Can you explain to me why water had to be flat, because it seems that's being taken as a given. Matter is drawn to the center of the earth, and as it meets the resistance of the ground it 'levels' out around the earth in the form of a sphere where it's evenly distributed.

Evenly distributed=/=perfectly level

>>19409668
>>OH BUT THE HOTSPOT BELOW THE SUN IS MUH REFRACTION AND CLOUDS
Did you notice, at all, I said nothing about it being refraction or cloud related, but a reflection on water that's highlighted because the clouds left?

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>>19409583
Why would NASA fake anything?

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>>19409680
>>19409651
>water never curves
Shit, brahs, may wanna tell that to the dew on this blade of grass.

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>>19409682
Your explanation still doesn't hold water

No pun intended.

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>>19409687
So you're saying that happens on a massive level?

Keyword 'LEVEL'

>>19409594

So did they just get bored towards the end of making that fake picture and say "fuck it, no one will notice anyway lol"?

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I wonder, did this belief return from the grave or was it kept quietly alive? Have there been people keeping flat earth a thing? Was there someone who decided to believe in all this again?

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>>19409847
>>19409632
>>19409603
>>19409594
>>19409591
>>19409583

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong about flat earth, maybe its a sphere, but that still doesn't explain WHY NASA/EESA/ETC create FAKE IMAGES OF EARTH!

FLAT EARTH wouldn't have a good argument if these BILLION DOLLAR SPACE AGENCIES weren't FAKING THE SHAPE OF EARTH!

You can throw all the math and logic AGAINST flat earth, but it won't explain: WHY ARE THEY FAKING THE IMAGES OF EARTH??

Can I ask if you're actually being serious?
I may be missing an obvious joke here, but this seems stupid, even by 4chans standards

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>>19409899
I'm glad this is being ignored because it has no practical answer

>>19409583
>no real pictures of Earth

Yes folks, this is the American education system at work.

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>>19409583
>>19409602
Try again

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>>19410314
>>19409912
>>19409677
>>19409643
>>19409619
>>19409602

Ad hominem doesn't help your argument

>>19409641

the boat going 'over the curve' video is heavily doctored, you fucking tard, that's the video they show to everyone in school.

there video isn't contiuous and the boat actually wait hours for sea swells to obscure the bottom of the boat, the boat doesn't go over the horizon at all fucking tard nigger

>>19409899

so you don't believe in god our original creator before we were corrupted by satan, it's that simple.

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>>19410366
see >>19410323

>>19409899
camera fovs and different distances

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>>19409583
I've made everything up to scale. Explain this.

Fly in a airplane and look out the window

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>>19409765

This is in a 3D program simulation, camera 20 miles up, 5 degrees towards the earth and 35mm lens. The earth is perfectly round and the same diameter as the real one. I tried making it one to one. If anyone wants me to provide different configurations like height, angle or lens let me know.

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>>19410436
>>19410453
>I've made everything to scale
>No indication of correct measurements

Thank you for reassuring me cgi earth is correct with MORE cgi

My fucking point is that there should be REAL PICTURES not FAKED... EVER!

>>19409583
i dont believe the earth is flat for one simple reason
why would everyone cover it up there is absolutely no reason (that i can think of) to cover this up

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>>19410711
Think again friend

>>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

>>19410317
What are stars in the sky?

>>19410847
meteorites, asteroids, sometimes they drop because they lose their magnetic charge

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>>19409603
which is the real face?

>>19409622
are you fucking retarded?

>>19409651
>get a cup
>fill it with water
>fill it just before it spills
>see a curve
>Edgar Buckingham

ITT people who don't have depth perception

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>>19410916
>pour water on a ball
>invent gravity to explain why it doesn't stick
>profit

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>>19410886
At lease that guys face has the same basic color

>>19410886
actually you motherfucker got a really good point, I have to admit.
flat earther here

>>19409765
No, he's an idiot
The reason water "sticks" to the globe is because gravity doesn't point in some arbitrary down direction, it points towards the center of the earth.

>>19410323
Pointing out your asking questions again and again that have been answered isnt ad hominem no matter how much you wish it to be.

>>19410317
I don't believe flat earth but why would they go through so much time and effort to lie about something like that? What's the point?

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>>19410986
see >>19410826

What if there no planets, but islands?

Why hide them?? Different resources, animals, foods, DIFFERENT EVERYTHING! Alien/angels could just be an advanced species living on a different island.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg

btfo. this is a visualization based on the flat earth model. the results of this visualization look NOTHING like what we see IRL. the current flat earth model is wrong.

>>19410886
I went to school with this fucker. He was a total asshole.

>>19410317
Ohhh! I get it.
So flat earth Is bigger than sun?

>>19409583
then explain how the summer solstice and winter solstice cause different light levels in the southern and northern hemispheres

if the earth is flat all areas get light at the same time. even with gods lamp shade you need to explain how if its just going around above a flat earth how you get longest day in the norther and shortest day in the southern on the same day

if your saying its just going farther from the southern and closer to the northern on the summer solstice then that should be observable. if its moving far enough to restrict how much light the southern hemisphere gets the sun should be in a radically different spot in the sky

but its position is relatively stable through the year. it rises on the east side of my city and sets on the west. it looks like its almost directly over my street but not exactly most of the year and the rest its slightly offset but never out of view. im in the south east of america. im not in the tropic of cancer/capricorn/equator so its never actually over my street any day of the year but like i said it looks like its almost over my street. it never even moves enough to look like its over my back yard which is facing north

>>19409583
Gay bait. Sage & exit!

>>19409583
Shills, psyop, shit thread, bait bait bait.
SAGE & EXIT

>>19410937
What is mass? What is an atmosphere?

>>19411091
Well duh. The sun is maybe thirty, forty feet across. That's how birds can fly behind it.

>>19411138
I see...Is sun flat too then?

>>19411018
That doesn't answer the question. Now I'm convinced it's bullshit. Thank you.

These comments are so much infested with trolls that I don't think there's any reason to bother.

Just know this, flattards: You are completely, utterly, incomprehensibly wrong with everything you say.

if earth is a globe, then what's this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RhXJhQ8ys90

>>19409583
Earth can't be flat.
Cats would have toppled everything off the edges already.

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>>19411115
This pic may help you anon

The sun travels short circle during summer, why days are longer, middle circle is spring/fall, and longest circle is winter -- why days are shortest and shadows are longer.

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>>19409594
Here, an image made by the Japanese satellite Himawari-8.

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>>19411339
they can't because of the ice wall

>>19411514
they are in on it too

>>19411287
herp derp, prove it

>>19411514
ahhh so the japs went to space first

one thing guys, in day'time we can see sometimes the moon, that mean's on the other side where is night, they dont have moon? and when sun is on other side of earth in night, the sometimes the moon full shine, how is this possibile if the sun is not up? basically is after the earth.

>>19411514
you dont see something strange? the image are the same as the others, like same distance? how is this possible ? and where is the sun? why there is no picture with earth and sun together ?

>>19409583
flat girthers BTFO

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>>19411601
bamp for dubs

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>>19411597
It's called the geostationary orbit.
>why there is no picture with earth and sun together ?
Says who?

How do flat earthers explain lunar eclipses?

>>19409899
It is really difficult and expensive to get a picture of the whole Earth, so they use composite images and photoshop to make a "good enough" image of it. The reason nebulas and shit look like that in images and are "artist concepts" is because they colorize them based on the elements they contain to make it more interesting. It would be a pretty boring image if not colorized. I wouldn't be surprised if the weirdness in some of the Earth images is because of "artistic" choices.

>>19411588
only post where anon has a point and no one replies

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>>19411610

https://youtu.be/dtHuTVXZGFw

>>19411588
>>19411693
The sun and the moon aren't two dwarf-sized objects a few thousand kilometres away from Earth. The Sun is about 150 million kilometres away and the Moon is about 380 thousand kilometres away. The changing position of the two objects is what leads to lunar phases.

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>>19411588
>>19411693

Hopefully this video helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8

>>19411722
>>19411722
>gif of the sun rotating on (globe) Earth in the azimuthal equidistant projection

>>19409583
>keeps posting debunked shit
Your style of trolling is borin

>>19410956
No Flatearther would ever say something like this. When someone makes an irrefutable argument you just screech "shill"

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>>19411744
>debunked
>No explanation why

Great job.

>>19411693
how has he a point? I dont even get what is confusing him

>>19411748
literally every thread someone is explaining it to you. You are the only one pretending to be retarded by claiming "it is le clearly cgi!!!!!1".
pathetic

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>>19411753
Great job explaining it.

>>19411755
>hurr durr
(You)

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>>19411287

Yes the earth is flat and Math, Science, and Visual evidence prove it. Not bogus theories freemasons and kikes feed the masses
8 inches per mile squared of curvature is unmeasurable.
The spin of earth is also unmeasurable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emwgDIFW9yc
The Theory of gravity is also unmeasureable.

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Here's a Jew redpilling kids on flat Earth in the 70s

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Explain planetary transits over the sun using the flat earth model

>>19411770
how do you know it is a "planet"?

>>19411765
>retard-argument-36.jpg
Clearly, the mouthbreather who made that had no idea how gravity worked. I guess that's what happens to people who learn about creationism in schools.

>>19411770
What is there to explain? Mercury's and Venus' orbits are closer to the Sun than Earth's which is why we can observe them passing across the Sun.

>>19411775
>fails to address the arguments of one posts
>completely misunderstands the point of the other one
congratulation

>>19411775
>flat earth model
>Mercury's and Venus' orbits are closer to the Sun than Earth's
what?

>>19409684
He wasnt a mason before the space program, it was a last minute thing, he was sworn in to be the first mason on the moon who left objects there for them

>>19411773
Ok then, call it whatever you want. Explain why the objects in the sky called mercury and venus travel across the sun whenever nasa and orbital mechanics predict they do using a flat earth model. Do it in a way that can also predict transits as successfully as the reality based one.

The flat earth issue concerns me greatly
I have a theory
Maybe, just maybe, the advance of technology and computers along with medicine, vehicles and cellphones, all that advance maybe its going too fast
and that may cause some people to deny a 600- year old principle of physics and think once more, that the earth is flat
I cant conceive the picture it is illogical, said Spock
Lets forget about fish-eyes and NASA pictures and go back to the basics
If the earth is flat then How come sundial even works?
So the earth is a disc? is it a square?
Is it a random polygon that rotates around the sun?if the earth is flat then how can we fly, sail and walk back and forth? shouldnt we fall over to the edge?
huh? you forgot about that?
The name is Christopher fucking Columbus
Dumbass

>>19411765
YOU EEDIOT
Gravity doesnt pull towards the human conception of the direction "downward"
Gravity pulls towards the earth´s core

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>>19411789
Which CGI venus are we referencing?

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>>19411791
>Lets forget about fish-eyes and NASA pictures and go back to the basics

Sounds good to me

>>19411781
>>19411782
Yeah yeah, I'm an idiot. Reading flat Earth a thousand times in one thread messed me up. Anyway,
>fails to address the arguments of one posts
There's nothing to talk about, gravity doesn't point towards a single direction all over the universe. There is no "down" in space.

>>19411804
>basics
We still haven't been given an explanation why flat Earth is just Earth in the azimuthal equidistant projection.

>>19411804
You misunderstood big time
And that image is pure bull

>>19411802
The one that actually, demonstrably exists in our skies that anyone anywhere can see with or without a telescope? The thing that happens to be the 3rd brightest object in the sky? That's a good place to start.

>>19411804
Can i ask you a question?

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>>19411811

Earth is still earth, the continents are similar but not placed the same way.

One example is when sara palin said "russia is [alaska's] backdoor neighbor". She is correct on a flat earth map. Obviously with TPTB, she had to backtrack on the statement and look foolish... but she is correct.

https://youtu.be/gk8moOxzlGQ

>>19411827
>more azimuthal equidistant projection

>>19411823
You just did, you wanna ask another?

>>19411821
This is the online Venus we truly know. All the other pictures are bullshit

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>>19411831
Is it possible the globe map is just reverse azimuthal equidistant projection? Geocentric technically predates heliocentric

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>>19411834

Forgot pic

>>19411834
As a matter of a fact, yes, anyway, What is your religion?

>>19411791
You still can't prove that. In reality, none of us can prove anything to each other, because models are just models and all we can do is observe. None of us are actually going into space, and none of us are going to send up atmospheric balloons

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>>19411841

What difference would it make? I'm agnostic, I only know what I can prove... what science should be. Question everything!

>>19411715
This video is about regular eclipse not lunar ecplipse

>>19411845
Aristotle didnt need a fucking space ship
The son of a bitch watch the shadows, but you and him have a thing not in common
He new MATH

>>19411854
You're right, I old math

>>19411845
Except you as well as anyone else can actually disprove flat earth beyond all reasonable doubt by getting a solar filter. I've never gotten a straight response from a flattard about the simple observation that the sun does not change in apparent size or speed throughout the day, even though they say it is a tiny, close object zooming toward and then away from you. They are cheap. See for yourself and try to explain it away.

>>19411837
A polar azimuthal equidistant projection is a projection of the globe centered on the North pole. All the points on the map are in the correct direction but the distances clearly get distorted the further away from the centre you go. This is why South America is twice as wide as North America in that map.
Geocentrism and heliocentrism do not affect this.

>>19411864
I'm not saying the earth is round or flat, I'm saying that nobody here can prove anything to each other cause one side is gonna quote mathematical formulas that nobody is gonna test or the existence of historical figures that can't objectively be proven to ever have existed, and on the same token nobody can definitively prove there's an edge to the Earth somewhere

>>19411846
Theres the problem,
yes science consists on what you call "Question Everything"
But, it also consists on having an answer to said questions and being certain
If you only know what you can prove, then i must say, you are one lazy motherfucker

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>>19411877
I do research and I don't trust everything I'm told. I create my own opinions, and sometimes they are wrong. Flat earth could be wrong too.

If I was lazy, wouldn't it be easier to just accept everything I'm told by nasa and others as total fact without doing ANY sort of analysis?

>>19411873
If thats what you really think, then the conversation is pointless, and youre an idiot for entering the board in the first place, you rae writting comments and posts, yes.
But ironically you arent saying anything
The following step for you should be going to bed and rest
We are here to discuss and you are just a waste of time
Fuck off

>>19411873
No, you are an idiot, you are not saying anything deep, profound, or insightful, there exists an objective reality and it informs worldviews that are either consistent or inconsistent with it, and observations of reality decide which one it's gonna be. If someone saw the edge of the world then that would definitely show it's not a globe, independently of anyone's belief about the matter. Similarly looking at the how the sun behaves is going to firmly disprove the idea that it is some tiny close object that zooms around the flat earth.

>>19411879
Youre lazy because if you really had done so much "research" you would be sure that the earth isnt flat

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>>19411872
>We still haven't been given an explanation why flat Earth is just Earth in the azimuthal equidistant projection.

I thought I did but lets try this again. Ancient man used to believe the earth was flat and they had a map to use, see >>19411837

You're asking why do they use azimuthal equidistant projection? Because its not a projection, the globe model is. The globe model is the flat earth map rearranged to support a globe shape.

>>19411882
Well then, carry on arguing

>>19411885
So flat earthers have to believe that the sun is a tiny light?

>>19410939
Yeah, season dont change the color of the landscape or anything

>>19411890
>So flat earthers have to believe that the sun is a tiny light?
Precisely

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>>19411887
I'm sure NASA is full of shit. I'm sure there are problems with the HELIOCENTRIC MODEL. I'm sure there is NO MEASURABLE CURVE or SPEED of earth. I'm sure GRAVITY and RELATIVITY are theoretical.

You're telling me you are so smart, you believe the earth rotates at 1000mph... FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND???

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>>19411864
>the simple observation that the sun does not change in apparent size

Here you go

>>19410937
You can't actually be this stupid

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>>19411889
>and they had a map to use
Ancient men figured out that our planet was not flat over two thousand years ago and their maps did not show all continents (+Hawaii, because that's a very prominent feature).
Explain to me how distances on the map you just posted can become greater the further away from the North pole one goes. Longitude lines always remain the same distance from one another.

>>19411896
>how stars would appear in the globe theory
I'd like to hear an explanation for that

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>>19411903
Pleas tell me what you think you are looking at there? Do you think it is at least possible that glare is obscuring the sun itself here? As I said, get a filter that removes the glare and see for yourself. I really want you to think this one through, I know you can do it!

>>19411896
I dont believe the earth rotates at 1000 mph
I KNOW the earth rotates at 1000 mph
heres a fucking link for you to understand why do humans dont go out flying if the earth goes so fast
If the earth stopped rotating for a second, it would be catastrophical
Piss off and for the love of the god , dont reproduce
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/53475/a-fly-in-an-accelerating-car

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>>19411917
>Longitude lines always remain the same distance from one another.

Are you confused with Latitude?

>>19411919
Do I think there is a possibility of a glare? How does that prove the sun doesn't change in shape? I think the footage speaks for itself.

>>19411921
>I KNOW the earth rotates at 1000 mph
>heres a fucking link for you to understand

So somebody wrote something and you know FOR SURE its true? Thanks for the link, ITS GOTTA BE TRUE IF ITS ON A PHYSICS WEBSITE

>>19411944
The footage says light happens to be reflecting towards you within a specific angle from the sun.

>>19409583
>The earth spins at 1000mph? Thats faster than the speed of sound. It was figured out by pendulums from some old french guy?
>Very suspicious.

I lost my shit at "very suspicious"

Testtest

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>>19411947
Maybe this will help

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>>19411944
Do you think the streetlight is getting larger here, or just that it appears larger because it is obscured in glare? Do you think that the sun is getting larger there, or do you acknowledge the possibility that it appears larger because it it getting obscured in glare? What do you think is happening in the webm you just posted? I want you to think this though and be honest with yourself.

>>19411951
Same with the moon here, if that is what it is. Show something that is not completely out of focus and obscured in glare. What do you think you are actually seeing when you look at a ball of glare?

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>>19411953
The difference is that in your pic, the light is being turned on. The sun/moon light(s) are already on, its the perspective that creates the sun/moon to grow and shrink.

>>19411597
No, you loon, it's not strange. Images are cropped and zoomed, that's why they look similar. You flattards simply won't admit when you've been proven wrong; you claim there is no picture of the planet as a whole, you are shown one, and with egg on your face you then demand to see a photo of earth and the sun together. If you ever got one, you'd afterwards demand to see one with the moon on it, too, and after getting that, one with Chuck Norris roundhousing the moon, etc. You are laughable muppets, you lot.

>>19410382
Whats wrong with being a freemason now?

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>>19411514
Almost looks as good as their other art

>>19410937
> This fucking picture

Half these pictures were drawn after the person in them had been dead for decades or even centuries. Are you fucking stupid?

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>>19411514
>>19411971
Sorry, forgive me. We're talking about Japan's artists

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>>19411972
>>19411969
>>19409684
>>19411786

Nothing I guess. Shaq WAS a flat earth guy.

>>19411961
Do you believe in the atmosphere? I happen to know you flatties acknowledge it's ability to block light because you always use it to explain why you can't see things over the horizon. So why wouldn't sunlight get obscured near the horizon where the light is going through the greatest amount of atmosphere? As it said, get a solar filter and prove, without the glare (do you believe in glare?), that the sun changes in size daily. If you do I will become a flat earther.

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>>19411978
Ok here

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>>19411980
That was not taken with a solar filter. Do you know what I am talking about here? They are not hard to get and you owe it to yourself to use one just to prove me wrong. Do it.

>>19411986
Is it the same thing as one of those eclipse glasses things that lets you watch a solar eclipse without fucking up your eyes? If so, I've got a pair

>>19411997
Yes, that is it. Anything that cuts down the glare completely and lets you see the sun as just a yellow circle. Look at the sun through it a noon and then again near sunset. Prove that the sun changes it's size at different times throughout the day or come up with a reason why you didn't see it happening, and then get back to me.

>>19412006
Hologram sun only changes shape if you're not paying attention.

>Globetards BTFO

>>19412006
I'll check it out Saturday, I work through the early morning. So the flat idea is that it's like a close, moving light that would start small on the horizon, get bigger throughout the day because it's "closer," then get small again at sunset, and the round way of thinking is that it stays the same shape but you can't see it because it's too bright or whatever? Wouldn't flat people see that it looks bigger at sunset, even without a filter?

>>19412016
Yes, that is exactly right. Good luck and stay safe anon, and make sure to post your results here and how your views may have changed because of it.

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>>19411986
I see what you're saying about the solar filter.

Honestly, I don't own the camera to do this footage and there isn't a huge selection to choose from to prove this ABSOLUTELY, but this was a good clip.

https://youtu.be/Mu9oYb4_AAo?list=PL3YrJURjw6OWwjrgICI3D9ovhHkNKHiNB

The solar filter minimizes the size difference with glares, but you can see a very small decrease even with the filter.

>>19412029
What would be the best, preferably easy (cause I'm lazy) way to document this? I just got a Canon T6 but I barely know how to use it. Should i put marks on the lense of the glasses I'm looking though, so it shows in the pictures any size change or lack thereof? I know people would say that I moved the glasses farther away or something, so I could put them on a pole or something. Or maybe just put them over the camera lense?

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>>19410602
>can't differentiate between cgi and a simulation
>completely ignores the fact that sun in the simulation is traveling along a straight path across the sky

>>19412042
The distance you hold the filter glasses away from you shouldn't matter. Just keep everything consistent. If you take pictures make sure the camera is always the same distance from the filter.

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>>19412056
Maybe some insight would help. Can you explain what you're trying to prove with this simulation here>>19410436

>>19412074
In the simulation the viewer is located at the supposed North Pole. I'm spinning both the Sun and the Moon around the viewer. Sun just goes around in a straight line, never even coming close to the horizon. Out of laziness I'm not taking mountain heights into the account, but taking height of the terrain into the account basically the Sun would be blocked from view in some parts of the disk. Also for this flat earth model to work you would have to suppose that the Sun emits light as a spotlight, not as a point light. There's just so many discrepancies in this theory, that's all I'm trying to point out.

>>19409651
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

flat earthers make me so happy to be alive, I can finally see what other people see

your lives will always resemble a blind beggar hobbling hand first in a maze full of razor sharp corners, and it makes me joyful in a way I didn't think I could

>>19409583
jesus fucking christ. how do people this stupid manage to survive? flat earth has been repeated proven to be bullshit, starting in ancient Alexandria. Kill yourself or cut off your junk to prevent your idiocy infecting the gene pool.

>>19412121
nuh uh

cry moar

>>19412121
I have a feeling that some people are so revolted from all the MSM lies and the ongoing status quo that they even think the basic scientific facts are also lies. I mean I can relate to that, I understand where it's coming from, but believing FE theory is not the solution.

>>19411720
>looks at sun and moon
>seem similar size
>Then Neil Degrasshole Tyson says: no no, they seem similar size due to distances. Trust me, i am authority and the priest of Science religion

>>19412121
The thing is, flat earthers NEED to believe in their retarded redneck theory. They want to believe they're being deceived by high-end imaginary evil humans. Hence they feel like rebellious, intelligent people, and they stop thinking about their own insecurity and need for constraint.

>>19411607
that's one fucky looking curve

The autism here is incredible.

>>19411507
If that's true, wouldn't the sun complete a rotation more quickly in the summer and take longer to fully rotate in the winter? Unless it somehow is moving into a smaller radius AND slowing it's overall rotation speed.

>>19412140
>"seem(((s)))"
according to whom you jewshill? we know you work for Soros; now that you've been O U T T E D, it is time to go back

>>19411722
Please keep this in mind as you explain lunar phases, solar eclipses and lunar eclipses.

>>19411507
why does the sun move into different circles, in lockstep? why not gradual deviations; why hasn't someone measured it slowly?

>>19411597
hush now child, your overactive mind can't focus on any of those questions by yourself, and since you will continue to have energy (that won't productively be used) until your death it is better for society if you keep to yourself, so as to not bother minds in greater control

>>19411896
Go look up how snipers shoot far away targets. They literally have to compensate for the rotation if they want to be precise.

>>19409899
Stop capitalizing random words
This isn't fucking beforeitsnews. It just makes you look like an autist.

>>19412140
Well, just keep looking at the sun, maybe you'll have some more revelations.

>>19412149
It's because of the lens. Flattards can just imagine that's the edge of the world they're looking at.

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>>19411765
wtf that pic must be bait

>>19411827
>Ignores the explanation of projection literally on the map

If the Earth is really flat, why would people hide that fact? What is there to gain? Besides giggles and money. While space programs do receive a lot of money there is better ways to leech money from the populous.

>>19409601
Planes go faster :-)

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>>19412035
Take it from another anon. I saw a total solar eclipse a few years ago. The sun is much smaller when viewed through a filter.

>>19412210
No they don't.

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Well I'm no flat earther. I've been an avid fan of space since I was little. But I got that same wemb on my puta, looked at it many times. It seems like a chroma key fault or something. Regardless it's clear that there's a layering issue happening.
So do they have a layer for the planet, then one for the city lights and maybe thunderstorms, one for clouds and one for space and stars.
Its got me thinking. I saw a vid from bpearth watch the other day where he showed an anomaly reoccurring in the same place on one of the solar satellites.
I always thought space was real, due to many factors. Mainly cause I like to check out space weather and the amount of work that would go into faking all the soho and solar dynamics stuff is huge. But now, I dunno.

>>19409625
México doesn't look like that.

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Flat earth is such an entry level conspiracy theory.

When I look outside of my window, the earth looks flat. There's no curve in sight. If the average person was never told what shape the earth is, they probably assume it was flat. Honestly, a globe shaped earth is more abstract idea. People on /x/ just want to believe it isn't a globe because they feel special not believing in mainstream science.

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>>19410602
That's not the original image and not an official NASA image, someone just added the earth in there so that it would look cooler.

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>>19410602
>>19412593
But you probably already knew this because you people love to do research.

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>>19412279
>While space programs do receive a lot of money there is better ways to leech money from the populous.
Yeah like just taking it

>>19409651
> gravity only exists when it proves water is flat

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You're all wrong, it's more like this

>>19412631
Are you posting this pro or anti flat earth?

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>>19409583
Fucking neck yerself m80

>>19412675
anti

>>19409583
When can we exile all the flatards into orbit? Their willful ignorance makes me want to strangle them.

>>19412714
That's what I thought, but some of their arguments are so bad it's hard to tell who is who sometimes

>>19411851
>s-shut up globalist

>>19411597
The picture is cropped

>>19409651
Show me a ball with the same size and mass as the Earth in the RE model and we'll discuss whether your comparison is valid.

>>19411827
She's still correct on a globe, since the Bering Strait only separates the two by 51 miles.

>>19411896
So... You have no idea how inertia works do you?

>>19411765
This one if nothing else has got to be taking the piss, right? Surely not even Flat Earthers could be that stupid.

>>19409591
All you flat earthers are retarded. If you flew up high you would be able to see Russia and the "ice wall" from anywhere, but this is not the case

>>19409613
What is the purpose of the psy-op?

>>19409591
why are they wearing masks

>>19410969
show me proof of water sticking to a ball

>>19411997
>you watch a solar eclipse without fucking up your eyes


mfw this has never happened

>>19412472
>Flat earth is such an entry level conspiracy theory.

it's the only conspiracy theory, once you start with this lie, you have to llie about eveything else.

>>19413219
Breed hostility, destroy communities. That's the whole point of psyops. Why does it seem like nobody knows the meaning of that word right now?

>>19413229
A ball does not have enough mass for its gravitational pull to attract water.

>>19412210
they do not.

long range shots have to compensate for the bullet falling.

naval guns shoot straight down the line of sight

>>19413248
so you can't prove it or show it happening without nasa science which we don't trust...nice

its also funny that gravity is described as whatever explanation is needed

>emeregnt property of mass
>gravitons
>gravity waves
>space time bending

they can't even keep it consistent, also, the cavendish expirement has been replicated with null results and it was published after his death.

also, the foucalt expirement is a farce
>has no consistency in speed and direction
>uses balland socket joint which facilitate circular motion readily
>requires a push to get it going
>still used as proof of earths rotation


the problem is most people don't even bother replicating these experiments, but just read it in a book and regurgitate it as fact which our education systems have been built upon

>>19412234
can't debate the content, criticizes the way it's written instead for maximum strawman.

>you didn't use greentext in your post, are you a newfag

>>19413219
Discredits more grounded conspiracy theories about evil but real men by grouping them with satanic reptilian tier silliness.

>>19413274
did this nigger just call science "nasa science"

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>>19409583

I'm gonna post some pics.

I hope someone can refute them because I cant.

Also

I am a merchant mariner and quite frankly use celestial navigation for fun sometimes ever since I learned how. I've been all around the Americas (all the way around) and idk how my celestial navigation works if the earth is flat? It only works on a globe model. Idk.

Anyways

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>>19413379

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>>19413388

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>>19413394

>>19411796
yeah sure it does. I mean when you say so, I dont need proof then

>>19411805
and I didnt only post an image.

>>19413249
My grandfather fought in Vietnam and he gave me fucking specifics on how to shoot with a sniper rifle.
You can see for yourself videos about it anywhere.

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>>19411173
it absolutely does answer the question:
Why would anyone go to such great lengths to hide flat Earth?
>there is more land beyond the ice wall
>more technological and evolved society
>genetically modified to not harbor disease etc
>still need resources, can't kill everyone on our continents
>ABSOLUTELY UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN THEY BE INVADED WITH POOR GENETIC DISEASE CARRYING HUMANS
it's the greatest psyop of all time, and blue beam is the backup plan once some anon brings serious questions up with consumer technology.

>>19413274
Gravity is a force that has more than one property. Gavitational force is proportional to mass, so more mass=more force, at the most basic level

>gravitons are a proposed subatomic particle. It may or may not exist, it is proposed to coordinate with other subatomic particles that correspond to their respective forces e.g. photons
>gravity waves have been detected
>space time bending has also been detected in atomic clocks based in varying locations from the center of the earth and micro fluctuationsin time have been confirmed. You can also confirm this in about two weeks during the eclipse when the sun''s mass causes the positions of stars to shift in the sky due to the sun's gravity bending the light around it.

>>19413517
Also the cavendish experiment is designed to measure the gravitational force between two objects, the results vary due to the mass (and therefore the gravitational force) of the objects involved.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment
>I know I'll get shit for posting a Wikipedia link, but at least they cite their sources

>>19412140
well, they have almost the same apparent size. Thats not even debatable

>>19412294
yes they do, flattard

Flat Earthers are like atheists.

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>>19413075
No it isnt, and it just goes on man. You fuckes keep sticking your fingers in your ears and hide behind childish posts like that while ignoring all the points that were made by us.

Countless laser tests have been done over 8+ miles with zero curve detected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwCRej0BoA4 The speech he gives at the end really hit home.

Countless high altitude rockets/balloons have been shot into low earth orbit and every picture/video they take shows nothing but a FLAT PLANE with sun spots under the sun. (if you don't get why that's a big deal go back to school)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azOBO1lPMNk

You can zoom 50+ miles away and see the shoreline and buildings of things you shouldn't otherwise see if we were on a curve. (anywhere in the world under any and all weather conditions, its not refractions you dopes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_TTguKxnE

You can see Polaris (the north star) from the (((southern hemisphere)))

There are endless proofs just google 200 proofs the Earth is not a spinning ball and enjoy that you have been lied to.
Then you have NASA and other space agencies clearly using CGI or fake studio sets under water.

China has my fav one, of course NASA congratulated them for this great space walk
When this was live streamed I laughed so god damn hard. If you believe this then you are forever blue pilled and lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g

Then you got NASA with bubbles come out of their equipment and space suits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IZUq6v92I

Then there is video of Russians also faking it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVSx9fC6CXk

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FAAAAAAAAAAA.....nvm

>>19413379
>>19413388
>>19413394
>>19413403
these never get refuted and completely blow up the flat earth theory

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>>19413698

>>19413688
wew, creative bait post there, Hitler

>>19413710
Atlantis?

>>19413691
You can see polaris until the earth blocks your view. The equator isn't a magical delineating line dictating whether you see northern hemisphere or southern hemisphere constellations. Your exact position north or south determines that.

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>>19411765

>>19413722

it chicago numbnuts

>>19413691
I'm just going to say that Eric Dubays 200 proofs have been debunked more times than just about anything else.

>>19413691
While you're here, why don't you refute these? You seem to have all of the answers
>>19413379 #
>>19413388 #
>>19413394 #
>>19413403 #

>>19411722
This has to be one of the fucking dumbest things ive ever seen. You understand that if you were on a plane, or a tall mountain, that still means there would be a line of sight that allows you to see the moon. But oh fuck, you cant. Because of the curve.

Also, explain to me in 13 days how the solar eclipse worked with this stupid ass theory

>>19413240
Why would someone's belief in a flat earth destroy communities or make people hostile? You're overthinking it.

>>19413810
Because they're obnoxious and aggressive as fuck. Instead of just planting the idea that there's a deception they ram it down our throats and most are incapable of even revising their own infographs when something gets solidly debunked. There are a few legitimate flat earthers out there but most of the noise is from the psyop because it breeds animosity and hatred and prevents people from actually arriving at the truth. There's something up with antarctica, but nobody will ever figure out what it is because we're all too busy pissing at each other about whether the earth is flat or a globe, when figuring out what's up with antarctica will guide us to the truth.
(((They))) don't want that.

>>19411610
moon is transparent and self-luminous, it has its own cycles independent from the sun

>>19413810

>>19413341

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Flat Earth is the dumbest conspiracy theory out there. These threads are always hilarious.

>>19413831
I see, and agree too. I also believe the noise is very much blocking us from the key which is Antarctica. I wasn't even really paying attention to the flat earth nonsense until one pointed my attention to the weirdness of Antarctica.

We'll be fine though.

>>19413840
no.

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>>19413835

>>19409583
>no real pictures of earth. Beyond cgi/fisheye lens
>theres lots of weather balloons that show NO CURVE at great heights
>links a video with a fish eye lens

Bruh

>>19413846
yasss

>>19413853
no.

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But wait, theres more!

the moon landing hoax a simple look at how there is more than one light source in the moon landing official pictures means they were not lite by the sun but by more than one source as the shadows go off at different angles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4

THEN the fact that the (((moon rocks))) brought by america after the landing turned out to be nothing more than petrified wood

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/moon-rock-museum-just-petrified-wood/

Also the fact that thrust doesn't work in a vacuum nor does combustion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYfwlzWOYCE&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwK7staIj-Y&t
Endless endless endless proofs
Yet people claim this is all debunked while not giving any points. Sticking fingers in their ears again. But sure, I'll give these infographics a look even if they seem unrelated to all the stuff I brought up.

>>19412259
>Well, just keep looking at the sun, maybe you'll have some more revelations
cheeky anti-sungazing shilling there

>>19413841
>not using vector graphic

>>19413855
YASSS DADDY MISDIRECT ME

>>19413865
*cracks belt, miscredits harder*

no.

>>19413844
>Antarctica is a key to anything
Oh please. It's just a bunch of ice.

>>19413870
Did you look into any of the theories?

>>19413862
If even Paint can disprove it I don't even need vector graphics since those are evil nasa dark magic.

>>19413870
That's not true!
>There's also rocks and dirt

>>19413870
wELL iF yOU lACK iCE iT bECOMES tHE kEY tO yOUR lACK oF iCE

>>19413847
you can sometimes see stars behind the moon

>>19413876
Yes, and they are all (the 2-3 I remember) equally as stupid. The only way someone would refer to it as "the weirdness of Antartica" is if you never read anything about it from any scientific source, googletranslate'd or not.
There's some stuff we don't know about it, that's obvious, but there's not some secret ice wall blocking everything and they don't want people to know about it. There's nothing weird about not letting people go somewhere where they would instantly die of cold.

>>19413877
yeah, but the earth has no pixels

>>19413901
Get a string and a magnifying glass, bend the string slightly and use magnifying glass on the part that looks more even.
Same result.

>>19413900
I'm not even saying it's aliens, but we already have ooparts and evidence of advanced antediluvian civilizations, more pyramids and megalithic structures are being found, one in Bosnia of all places. Just finding the hominid fossil in Morocco destroyed the existing theory. Can you imagine what would happen if we discovered an advanced civilization with historical writing covered by the Antarctican ice?

>>19413911
that's even dumber than Foucault's pendulum desu

Can I just get an accurate flat earth map?

>>19413897
Post any kind of undoctored photo evidence of this shit

>>19413923
That would be quite interesting but also has nothing to do with the earth being flat and covered by ice, or that we're all islands in ice like that retarded post up above. It's stupid enough to the point where the only way you'd believe it is not leaving your home ever and imagining what the outside world looked like.
Which is what most people did until they had the tools to actually look into that and find out that surprise surprise, they were wrong.

Ooparts and megalithic structures are all part of different theories, that are grounded in SOME reality and make sense to a certain degree and are completely irrelevant to any flat earth theories merely because the implications of said theories would destroy everything else about that. The list of examples is too long to mention and I'm not feeling like hogging up the thread for myself to entertain a stupid concept.

>>19413933
don't remember the name of the model or the guy who made it but someone broke down a globe into little triangles to make a more accurate globe-to-flat plane projection

>>19413933
Faker than the ayy lmao pic, it has never been seen

>>19413952
just youtube it

>>19413953
I'm not saying the earth is flat, I'm saying Antarctica holds the key to discovering a truth about the earth that (((They))) don't want us to find, hence the flat earth psyop not only employing overly aggressive shills to discredit the few flat earthers that actually alter and refine their arguments as things get debunked, but conflating the issue to be one of flat vs globe as opposed to having both sides wanting to unite and just figure out the fuck is up with Antarctica.

>>19413987
Oh I see what you mean now, my bad. Yeah I'm definitely interested in knowing what's IN Antarctica, outside of all the ice around it obviously. Though I don't think there's anything like secret civilizations frozen by god or garbage like that, I'm sure there has to be a ton of fossils of weird looking shit we can barely even imagine buried somewhere in there.

>>19413966
Yeah. But that's still a representation of a globe. Nobody will offer up a map because it doesn't exist

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>>19414007
There, not a globe anymore.

>>19414023
My point still stands

>>19409696
You can see the clouds deform near the edges.

>>19413233
Glasses, my man. Those paper super dark tinted ones, they look like the red/blue 3D glasses that come with movies

>>19413911
I could still measure that curvature

>>19414118
Or you can just use a welding visor or >>19411986

>>19413952
Well, it would be piss-easy to shoop a pic like that, so I am just going to say that it wouldnt prove anything either way, since this phenomena can be explained by aberration

>>19412270
what i thought, but this is one of the strongest emotive arguments in the flat earth box - apparently

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round earthers BTFO, as you can see, you just have the wrong diagram of a flat earth

>>19415237
How do planes get from Australia to New Zealand in 30 minutes?

>>19415414
the world operates on pacman rules
if you go out though the right you come out from the left

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>>19409622
source: your own fucking video

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>>19409622
Another one, now the "flat" balloon image.

Why doesn't a flat earther use a telescope to see Australia from a high point in the U.S.?

>>19410826
>video from 100 years ago

>>19412135
>Trumptards are literally devolving

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>>19413870
OHHH ok

>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

He also mentions "...mountains of coal and uranium" in Antarctica

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>>19415786
Still relevant

Just google the book of enoch that was taken outta the bible u globe cucks

>>19413300
Shut the fuck up you fucking retarded faggot

>>19416013
This is a Joke. Kennedy gave her that map because of the time she spent on his north pole.

>>19409613
i hear you brother

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>>19410937
Mathematicians use compasses
Freemasons, originally a guild of architects and builders, also use compasses
I used a compass in school
>Holy shit it must all be connected
>tfw you used a compass to draw a curve and contributed to the round earth lie
WEW

>There are people in the world who actually, unironically, believe that the Earth is flat
Our species deserves to die. Such complete and utter stupidity cannot be allowed to continue.

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>>19416497
>>19416489
>>19416102
>>19416085
>>19416071
see >>19410323

>>19409583
>The earth spins at 1000mph? Thats faster than the speed of sound. It was figured out by pendulums from some old french guy?

What the literal fuck are you talking about?

Logicalfags, just give up you've all been shammed into feeding the trolls. I will not believe anybody in their right mind sides with this flat earth theory. Just trolls, the lot of em! and you've all been sucked into it!

>>19415414
they fly? are you retarded?

>>19416505
insulting/mocking a retard isnt making an ad hominem argument you fucking retard.

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>>19416530
>Earth spins on axis at 1000mph
>Speed of sound is 742.5 mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-reOiipagg

>>19411138
>birds fly behind it

haha say what?!

>>19416565
but whats your point? How is that a contradiction?

>>19416505
>being so insecure about his position he missed a sex joke and thought the post was serious

can some flattard explain how the continents fit together like on a ball earth?

NASA obv faked some shit but this flat turd thing is not reality.

Keep ask questions but do not assume shit like that, it will make you waste time.

>>19416540
KYS

Flat earthers sure are some stupid cuks.

>>19413222
they're big guys

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>>19416572
Just speak a few words. The earth spins faster than that.

>>19416663
but whats your point? How is that a contradiction?

>>19416707
Someone standing east of you wouldn't hear you. Earth rotates faster than sound of voice. Never hear noises from your west.

>>19416013
How appropriate. All her best points weren't real either.

>>19416757
oh anon. pretending to dont understand how reference frames work again?

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I encourage people to watch this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehel0lBDqQ&list=PLYI8318YYdkD_VW7u3EMBq-MeNIuHRnb4

>>19416849
>claims to have read a book on relative motion for the 3rd times
>still has massive misconceptions about it
checks out. you fucks are immune to learn anything. Just like we go over the same things every thread and people still will bring up the same "criticism" in the next one