The more I read into both lucid dreaming and astral projection, it seems as if astral projection is just an illusion within a lucid dream. It doesn't sound as if there's any difference between the two. I haven't been able to lucid dream yet so I can't give my opinion on it but based on what I've read it sounds as if astral projection is just an illusion within a lucid dream. Can anyone refute this?
Bump for curiosity.
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is altruism real?
Astral projection is a more 'solidified' version of lucid dreaming. One where you are still semi-conscious in that meditative sleep/trancestate rather than falling under completely.
What makes it distinct is that rather than complete control from the blind subconscius, this 'WILD' state is by compare out of your control and reliant on external factors (instead controlling only yourself and portions of the surroundings through your careful focus) which you can confirm through distinct external information that you could not otherwise have known. By delving into the self or changing the astral body, from that state you can actually change your personality and bodily health as well.
In lucid dreaming you have what YOU are projecting. In projection you are faced with 'other' which all too often leads to self-discovery and movement of realization towards the existence of unique entities of classical 'divinity' and ultimately the Source of All which many recognize as God.
It's the source of religion in general and all such things share a definitive pattern despite how your mind will try to process it in different metaphoric ways.
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>it seems as if astral projection is just an illusion within a lucid dream.
not when other people can see the same things you see... look into golden dawn shit, you'll be surprised