/omg/ -- Occultism & Magick General H-here i go~ edition

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>>19385862

where can i get a magick sword/ dagger that isn't cringe chinese shit?

>>19385917
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/137-6920876-3603714?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=masonic+sword

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Templar+sword&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ATemplar+sword

>>19385917
>star of david

Spooky jew wizards. Working their shekel sigils.

>>19385917
just use a kitchen knife.

>>19385917
https://www.etsy.com/shop/BorealisIronWorks?ref=l2-shopheader-name

>>19385942
Yeah, it's a shame symbols only have one single exoteric meaning.
You're like one of those Philistines who assumes IHVH=God of the bible, IHShVH= Scriptural Jesus, and a cross ALWAYS means Christianity. How'd I do?

>>19385968
I had no idea anyone else used that symbol at all. Who else uses it and what does it mean to them?

>>19385966
Is there anything you don't know?

>>19385968
YHVH is the god the of the Bible. If there are millions of Jews praying to him, he will come into existence, if only as a powerful thought form.

So, if you call upon him, who do you think will respond?

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what would happen if /x/ made its own occult order?

how would it end?

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OwO wuts dis?

>>19386015
>t. Braindead chaote who probably believes in meme magic and thinks trump is a good president

>>19386029
Um, what?
>Alogos
I repeat, um, what?

>>19386025
With Ape as a leader it probably can't be worse than most modern lineages. Lodge of black ivory seems to be producing some real gnosis in its adherents and the ritual year hasn't even started...

If it's just random anons then it'll probably end in schizophrenia if it didn't begin there.

>>19386025

1st Degree secret: traps aren't gay

5th and final degree secret: traps were gay all along

>>19386036
>why argue when I can shitpost: the post

>>19386043
http://xoanon.co.uk/the-apotheosis-of-the-pentagram/

Oh, it's new.
Where 493 at.
We gotsa look at some properteh.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Joshua-Tree-CA/pmf,pf_pt/2094591026_zpid/35723_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/35.256833,-113.623353,33.010966,-117.16095_rect/7_zm/

$15k for 8 acres with a kick ass tree.
"8.7 Acres *Approximately* in outlying north Joshua Tree. Dirt road can take you closer to the middle of the parcel. 360 Degrees of vast desert views."
Vacant lot.
Plenty of budget left over for a small house.
Couple of bedrooms, couple of bathrooms, a common room, a patio, and we can dig a root/wine cellar if we find some guy with the equipment that needs some quick money.

This is a good deal.

>>19386029
>>19386060
I told you they'd be releasing more shit around the eclipse...

>>19386029
>>19386043
Called it.
I knew they'd be dropping Fresh Fever on/around the Eclipse.

>>19386029
it is the easiest book to read ever. literally no pages.

>>19386055
You seem to have some mistaken ideas about the occult as evidenced in your post. I would argue but it would be pointless since your mistaken beliefs seem to be so deeply entrenched. Perhaps if you made a better post then you would receive less shitposts in your replies.

>>19386064

i live in palmdale let me join your order if you build a temple.

>>19386060
Looks like someone has to put an order in. $111 for an 88 page clothbound is meme-tier though.

>>19386064
That's less than two hundred miles from Barker Ranch. Even closer to Spahn.

>>19386075
I can't promise nuthin.
I'm just riding coat tails anyway.

Even though, I'd probably end up being room Mother and default Cook before it was over.
(Y'all don't even know about my MAD kitchen skills.)

>>19386089
Don't ever try to buy Satyr's Sermon.
Will order when paid.

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>>19386090
Next, they'll be taking pictures of us in caves and shit.
This is sooo bad for me and my Martian tendencies.
I love it.

>>19386094
I'm picking this up because fuck if I don't love scalping.

>>19386096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCdYMKqpzBw

>>19386098
Word. Gonna sit on these Helen Oliver typescripts for a couple more years. Probably gonna test waters in 2019 at the fifth anniversary of DBoE's public release.

>>19386106
I don't even want to know how much the telismatic editions are going to cost.

>>19386119
A lot.
Probably on the order of $300ish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WTj4L5iBDo

>>19386130
Using ancient systems of probability, that means that I'm in for like 400% profit on the standard edition and a very short time fucking with the overhead scanner for the pdf.

>>19386072
Perhaps if you didn't project your ignorance unto others western occultism would move beyond the constraints of late 19th century charlatans.

>>19386140
Which reminds me I should really pick up JSK's Testament of Cyprion before it sells out, but my scholarship isn't disbursing any time soon.

>>19386140
I tell you what, I'd TRADE my copy of TAN, DBoE, plus one Soror PA catalog with initiatory gestures for a Deluxe/Telismatic copy of DBoE or the Green Snakeskin Veneficium.

>>19386150
Mine is, I should pick up a copy of Ebony's Way of the Master to transcribe the full comment.

I was gonna but I tipped off the Daemon Dirge and he scooped me.

>>19386106

PS - you were asking me about Mpungo planetary correspondences.
They scoff but I'm still working on my amended Wheel of the Year.
I think I can work this until it's usable I just need to keep breaking it.

• MARCH – PISCES – WATER – NEPTUNE/JUPITER – PADRE TIEMPO
• APRIL – ARIES – FIRE – MARS - ZARABANDA
• MAY – TAURUS – EARTH – VENUS – MAMA SCHOLAN
• JUNE – GEMINI – AIR – MERCURY – BAKULU/EGUNGUN
• JULY – CANCER – WATER – MOON – MADRE AGUA
• AUGUST – LEO – FIRE – SUN – BRAZO FUERTE
• SEPTEMBER – VIRGO – EARTH – MERCURY – LUCERO MUNDO
• OCTOBER – LIBRA – AIR – VENUS - WATARIAMBA
• NOVEMBER – SCORPIO – WATER – PLUTO/MARS – CENTELLA NDOKI
• DECEMBER – SAGITTARIUS – FIRE – JUPITER – TIEMBLA TIERRA
• JANUARY – CAPRICORN – EARTH – SATURN – TATA NFUMBE
• FEBRUARY – AQUARIUS – AIR – URANUS/SATURN – SIETE RAYOS

To me this makes sense.

Anybody here from /k/ or /out/ - I need to know the average length of time for the estrous cycle of common wild game.
Deer
Boar
I'd like to refine my Wheel down to a Hunter/Gatherer calendar instead of an Agrarian calendar.
But I need someone with a little more Wild in them to give me some pointers.

>>19386149
To me it seems like you're the one projecting. I arrived at the perfectly reasonable conclusion that you were an ignorant chaote based on your laughably asinine talk of thoughtforms.

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>>19386175
NICE.

The estrous cycle in deer varies from 17 - 22 days

>>19386158
I would kill a man in cold blood for handwritten Auraeon manuscripts.

>>19386177
>mindless shitposter thinks anyone who disagrees with him is x tradition
You make assumptions, but none of them are accurate. If you think that's reasonable, then I'll leave you to your ignorance.

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>>19386185
>Boar
>>19386175
A vasectomized European wild hog (Sus scrofa) boar was placed daily with pen-reared sows and the length of estrous cycle and heat period recorded. Thirty-four estrous cycles recorded for sows under crowded conditions averaged 23.8 days in length, 53 percent lasting between 21 and 23 days. Eleven estrous cycles recorded for sows individually housed averaged 21.8 days; 64 percent were 21 to 23 days in length. The normal length of the estrous cycle is therefore 21 to 23 days, but irregular cycles are common. Of 82 heat periods recorded, 44 were two days, 29 were one day, and 9 were three days in length. Thus the heat period is approximately 48 hours. Fertile boars were placed with captive sows and the breeding dates and litter birth dates were recorded. Two of 43 recorded gestational periods were discarded; the remaining 41 averaged 115.2 ± 2.3 days. The most frequent gestational length recorded was also 115 days, comparable to that of domestic hogs, and averaged only 1 day longer. The range of 108-120 was not as great as for domestic hogs, 80 percent of the observations falling between 114 and 118 days.

>>19386185
THAT is why you're awesome.

Thank You.
I'm off to add more spokes!

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>>19386185
>22 days
That's pretty damn auspicious.

>>19386193
>averaged 21.8 days; 64 percent were 21 to 23 days in length

Very very auspicious.
Oh, look at that:
>93

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>>19385917
>dagger
Buy a fighting knife from Colt, Smith & Wesson, or MTech USA. You get a functional no-frills dagger that can hold an edge, cut and carve your ritual supplies, and be useful in a fight if your ritual is interrupted by the Spanish Inquisition.

>>19386191
You sure it's not accurate? You seem awful buttflustered... You too make assumptions regarding my stance toward 19th c. so-called charlatans.

>>19386177
To be fair to that anon, there's a grain of truth in what he was saying.
The jews do practice something kind of like thoughtform empowerment. iirc as part of the mystical aspect of their tikun olam they pray to empower or help their god do his thing. This probably isn't exactly accurate, but it's something like that.

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>>19386210
>telling the Goy how to make golems and other constructs
Hush, you.

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>>19386205

>>19386064
Buhhh it has its own Joshua tree I'm cryin. I'm going out west at the end of the month...

>>19386216
:(
Do you know of any good books that delve into that particular topic?

>>19386239
We can go find the Crowley Tree, dig it out of whoever the fuck has it in their yard at this point for a few hundred bucks (and no asked questions), and relocate it next to the Joshua.

>>19386252
OTO degree papers IX and X.

>>19386255
Not all Pine is drought tolerant.
Could you settle for a shovel of Earth?
You could plant a bonsai in it.
Besides, that tree is probably puhretty tall now and not able to be moved without severe damage.

>>19386306
We could just harvest the gene-seed.
>Banzai in earth
I like that.

>>19386320
Huh... just reading an article about that.
So... does this make him... the Jersey Devil?

I have to go to bed, now I'm just being silly.

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>>19386092

I'm a contractor and would be willing to trade labor for knowledge.

Also breaking ground on property is actually more expensive than you think. Just hooking up utilities (P/W/G) can cost upwards of 10k depending how far away the nearest utilities are.

Then there's the permits, etc

Unless you want to do rituals in a tent, and shit in a hole, I'd recommend buying a fucked up house to renovate.

>>19386466
Damn this cult is really coming together

>>19386255
Remind me to tell you about the time I went looking for Roswell and ended up on some random's property

>>19386306
>You could plant a bonsai in it

This idea is adorable

I will say the advantage to not-Joshua-tree-proper is that they irrigated the living fuck out of palm desert such that it now something of a desert oasis. The marked disadvantage is cost, though

>>19386466
it's lit.

And yeah I'm inclined to agree with this sentiment about buying a prebuilt structure.

>>19386486
Just buy a farmhouse in E. Europe for 10k. How can such well read people be so financially retarded?

>>19386466
Also been going through Nepal's laws, and they're pretty draconian for citizenship and property ownership due to [identity politics]. Oh boy.

I'm seeing reports of this being able to be abused/overcome, but it all looks like exploitation.

I'm going to poke around more US properties.

>>19386534
I'm near a massive area of karst topography. Lots of cow pastures where you'll just fall in a hole and never be seen again. A personal dark retreat hole is always a possibility, though I prefer a float tank as it only takes 20 minutes rather than 2 weeks for the full effect.

I am trying to learn Enochian pronunciations. This is what I got.

http://kheph777.tripod.com/art_angelical_pronunciation.pdf

>>19386534
Well so the other thing about the US is that religious organizations are exempt from property tax...and parsonage law allows for clergy to live on the property...I should consult this old pagan I vaguely know who is running an interfaith sanctuary in PA, he knows what he's doing

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>>19386534

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/18995397_zpid/1-_beds/zesta_sort/34.916693,-118.15856,34.775671,-118.267393_rect/12_zm/

1 hour north of LA.

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>>19386617
115k

really wish 4chan had multi image posting

>>19386556
>I'm near a massive area of karst topography
iktfb

>>19386591
That's been done in NY, Indy, OH, NJ, a few other places. Pretty sure I can pull some native blood tricks but I'd need to read up on land statutes.

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does dome geometry increase magick? these are neat.

>>19386662
anyone know the law re: squatting rights? there must be some houses in suburban detroit that remain unclaimed and just need some rotting drywall replaced etc.

>>19386662
It's been done a lot of places I just could get this specific guy on the phone because I know him and have spent time on their land. They're governed by a board of directors and have a pretty inspirational level of financial transparency. I want to solicit him for advice. They've also done a great job at monetizing their land. It easily pays for itself, between membership dues, their events and their (amazing) meadery. Dudes an engineer who just said fuck it in the 80s and went all in.

>>19386591
thanks for the overview re: indian/arabic/hellenic cultural exchange on astrology towards the end of the previous thread

>>1938586
test

>>19386719
Dude, any time! Thanks for asking a giant question about something I am personally coagulating in my mind at this very moment, explaining to others helps me learn.

>>19386673
I love geodesic.
Long Live Bucky Fuller.

>>19386714
You know now I actually have the money to contribute to an urban reclamation project.

>>19386718
I shoulda spent more time more time at the forge.

>>19386714
They might have a fuckload of back taxes owed on them, though. That would at least be worth looking into.

>/omg/ - real estate

>>19386772
/omgeodesic domez/

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Are there any good occult podcasts or audio lessons out there? i just started listening to Thelema Now!

>>19386806
Hermetic Hour.

>>19386760
"A fuckload of backtaxes" often means "I can pay that off and buy the home from tax lien provided I'm certain the owner's too hard up/too uncaring to rectify". Gotta be careful but it can be done.

>>19386772
You prefer cosmological physics?

>>19386782
Found a questionable compound up against
a national park less than an hour outside of Pensacola. Five bed house with three bed glorified trailer on a 7.1 acre lot.

>>19386806
https://youtu.be/hcBY88es_es

>>19386206
>cutting and carving
>with a ritual knife

>>19386064
Y'all gonna need to drill a well or have sewer brought out

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Eclipse coming soon in America. Any spells to be done or gain power during one?

>>19386825
Drop links. You can kick it to my inbox instead if you want, I feel like I should reactivate my "intentional community" google doc

>>19386913
Light one candle
Take Oath of the Abyss right as Eclipse is about to start
Blow it out when it begins
???
prophet

>>19386913
Stare directly at it. [spoilers]With special glasses[/spoilers] :^)

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>>19386806
Partially examined life

>>19386590
Whatever feels right when you vibrate it bruh

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I suposse things are working.

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Is this writer related to Uncle Al? He seems to know a lot about faeries and liminality.

>>19387186
why doesnt he quit being a cunt and put the piece down so they can start playing. it's white's turn first.

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Henre's was up earlier.
Go to bed when I said I was.
Wake up around 1 AM EST, dogs want to go outside.
Wander into living room talk to step mom for a second.
Let dogs out.
Fuck around in kitchen, drink water.
Let dogs in.
Come out kitchen, come in dining room, baby talk to dogs.
Look up at hallway - hall way light goes out at the same second. Huhn. Well then.
Head through open plan common room, down hall.
Make sure rents dog makes it to their room cause he's a nervous scardy cat that can't be left alone or he freaks
Girls and I go in my room.
Close door.
Walk past trunk.Nothing. Normal.
Walk past closest. Aura tingles in the area of my back between C1 and T4 vertebrae.
That's always how I know something is in the same room or around me.
This is really low grade.
I've had times when I felt it so strongly that I've panic''d and had the urge to run out of the room or area where I was standing.
I don't know if it's what other people mean when they say "I felt something touch me".
I never feel it in other areas like arms, etc.
Always only in C1 through T4 area,
Also, Exclusion Zone is open.
Pass through, lay down in bed.
Pups jump up on bed.
Start to fall back asleep.
Little pup wakes me up to go back outside AGAIN.
Exclusion Zone is closed now.
Nothing when passing closet.

Really, you like the cardboard box and packing peanuts that you shipped in that are in the closet better than this big fancy thing I'm making for you?

I haven't tested to see if hallway bulb burnt out at the second I looked up at it, or if it still works and randomly went out for no reason.
Only switch to control that light is in the common room I was looking through - no timer or dimmer, just on and off.
Never had a sync like that in close proximity to a "touch" incident.

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>>19387544
>Really, you like the cardboard box and packing peanuts that you shipped in that are in the closet better than this big fancy thing I'm making for you?

Do beings regularly like the familiar, comfortable, and limiting, more than the grandiose and edifying?

It's the question of the fucking century

https://soundcloud.com/umdotdot/a-dogs-tale-um-x-sumthin-sumthin-farfetched

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since noone else has said anything let this be a reminder that there are still human beings in this world who haven't experienced the world we take for granted, and who are actively separated from the hive mind of technological consciousness for cultural and sociological reasons.

These lucky humans will miss what certain occult societies would refer to as the "rape of Maat" or the "false dawn of Aquarius"

they will never see the "false light of Rahu" as certain tantriks call electrically generated light and they live entirely separate from the global economy that so many of us have created with our vision and waste

bless them, their minds and spirits, even if the "advanced" societies turn to dust they will remain in their aggravated suspicious state

Why do draconian mages have such a big boner for yoga? Or any mage for that matter, what do you get out of it?

>>19387789
Why not join them and leave this fucking board? Brainless Numbnut.

>>19386278
kek

>>19387578
I just tested the light switch to the light that went out on it's own last night.
I'm always the last one to bed and the first one up.
No one else has been up all night.
Switch was in the off position.
I turned it on and the bulb came on no problem.
I can think of other things that caused it, but there's still the scenario that the switch flipped itself to the off position or was manipulated to the off position with nothing that I could see anywhere near it.
Touche, Henre - I'm impressed.
And, of course, no video camera around.
Go figure.

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>want to copy some sigils in a note book
>afraid I will cast them just by writing them down
>afraid if my penmen ship is lacking I might ruin the sigil by not copying it correctly

any tips for sigils / copying spell in a personal note book /omg/?

>>19386046
I hope you are meming, but just in case, that's not how schizophrenia works. Schizo *affective* can be caused by severe prolonged trauma, but schizophrenia must have a genetic factor involved in order to manifest.

>>19386889
>Carving ritual objects, fetishes, etc.
>NOT using a ritual knife/dagger
Plebs, I swear.

>>19386958
Don't challenge our status here at /x/ as a non-prophet organization.

>>19388771
>not using a ritual dremel with consecrated bits

>>19388788
>Vu-ing
>but not Du-ing

any followers of cf russell? is there documentation available beyond the mega? still active..?

>>19385917

http://www.atar.com/

>>19386169
>I was gonna but I tipped off the Daemon Dirge and he scooped me.

?

>>19387951
>Or any mage for that matter, what do you get out of it?

'Power', stability.

>>19388804

Keith418 was really into Russell. Look for him.

>>19387951
Concentration, the ability to control the mind and body, strength (physical, mental, moral, including discipline), peace.

>>19388834
looking up keith418 thanks..seems he hasn't said much on the internet since 2006. I'm interested in finding someone who was a member of cf russells club or is still a member or has the complete documentation

>>19388842

You might hit up David:

www facebook com david richard jones

He's in Russell's lineage, as is Keith.

I don't think the Club, as such, still exists. Russell himself disbanded it, as I recall.

Is there magick to create a connection between animals and a man?

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Is this book any good?

>>19386806
Mindandmagick on YouTube has a series called "the mystery school", where the creator talks about the
Hermetic principles, how they apply to life and science, goes into magickal concepts and so forth, but it sounds like you're fairly far along. Still, I'm sure there's some things for you, in it.

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Bump.

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Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no45XSuCp5s

So /omg/, I have a question.

I've always liked the idea of witchcraft, but I don't like how witchcraft so often intersects with issues of feminism and environmentalism. Witchcraft-as-ideology is something I've always tried to avoid. So I guess my question is, is it possible to be a witch without being a stereotypical democrat?

>>19388970
>is it possible to be a witch without being a stereotypical democrat?
I dunno, is it possible to eat vegetables without being a vegetarian? This isn't rocket surgery.

>>19388970
Get yourself into Apes' library (link in the OP) and start reading the contents of the the Chumbly folder.

>>19388970
>is it possible to be a witch without being a stereotypical democrat?
Yes, it's called not being a Wiccan.

Although, you can't be a witch without being environmentally conscious. Witches draw their powers from the forces of nature; this is definitional.

>>19388979
Ebony Anpu was an initiated Wiccan, y'know.

>>19388970
The interaction of witchcraft with the feminine and the environment doesn't really look anything like mainstream feminism or environmentalism. It's most often absurdly sensible when you aren't burning down construction sites and making dangerous statements like how men and women are fundamentally different sides of the same coin.

>>19388987
>"Dangerous Statements"
Le thoughtcrime

>>19388970
>witches believe in a divine masculine and a divine feminine
>"omg literally what is this feminazi bullshit?"
>witches believe in honoring the forces of nature and not dumping trash everywhere
>"LOL did Al Gore write this?"

Okay, so if you don't believe in honoring the divine feminine and the forces of nature, what is it about witchcraft that you actually like?

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>>19388995
Go on a college campus with a soapbox and make the suggestion that men and women aren't equal because each posses qualia that can't be quantified for reduction into an algebraic comparative statement. We live in dark times. Doubly so if you suggest that feminine bepis is still benis.

>>19389011
>Le "All college Campuses are bastions of Neo-Liberalism" meme
Is this an American thing or do the tinfoils every country believe this?

>>19389011
>>19389016
Also, I think there is quite a difference between "having some dispcrepancies, physical and otherwise" and "keep your shoes off in the kitchen, bitch, or I'll knock you AND that fetus retarded." But that's just how it seems to me right now.

>>19389000
>honoring the divine feminine
Explain this meme to me. What do you mean, in practice, by "honoring the divine feminine"?

>>19389016
It's pretty bad on most campuses. The root of the problem is that everyone under 25 is fucking retarded, even the exceptions, and coming from a sheltered suburban middle class doesn't help. Dykes with a PhD in critical theory and an axe to grind doesn't help either.

>>19389019
I agree fully. My point was that shifting the ontological foundation of the argument to that of uniqueness and exception ruffles feathers, but so do studies that highlight biological and psychological differences across cultures and shit on critical theory.

Bringing this back to wiccecræfte, the younger generation seems much more concerned with sustainability and preservation of heritage as a whole than aging millenials with receding hairlines such as myself.

>>19389047
>It's pretty bad on most campuses
>"Most"
>Meaning the majority of campuses in the entire world
[CITATIONS MISSING]

>>19389047
What the fuck younger generation are you talking about? All the 10-year-olds practicing Witchcraft?

>>19388970
>So I guess my question is, is it possible to be a witch without being a stereotypical democrat?

It's not possible. The minute you engage with the sabbat your political beliefs will be irrevocably transformed. RIP, your moderate side.

>>19389057
He's breaking millennials into parts, the 18-25 crowd being the "younger generation"

>>19389053
>autism
He's obviously a native English speaker and we can assume he's speaking about his own western, libtard countries.

>>19389064
Oh man I make the "younger generation" by less than 6 months!

>>19389064
What is it about female psychology that makes them so attracted to magical LARP? Will the riddle of the female mind ever be solved?

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>>19389069
I brought you this meme in tribute to the young millennials

>>19389080
Oh Christ. Those things give me agita.

In Liber 70, should one replace "To Mega Therion" with one's own assumed name? Or should it be spoken as written? ("I, To Mega Therion, Therefore Condemn Thee, &c.")

>>19389030
I mean, acknowledging that it exists is a good start.

>>19389030
Veneration of the Yoni, etc.

>>19389076
the riddle is solved when you realise the female has no mind, only a pattern of habituated responses.

>>19389146
>>>>>/r/TheRedPill

You have to go back.

>>19389131
Is that a euphemism for eating a chick out?

>>19389146
This makes sense. Thank you.

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>>19389076
>Will the riddle of the female mind ever be solved?
>riddle of female mind
>female mind

top kek.

>>19389234
>>19389076
>>19389146

>Samefagging this hard

>>19389047
>sustainability and preservation of heritage
How come I never see you 'muh heritage' fags logging in volunteer hours at establishments which do exactly that, let alone enrolling in undergrad or grad to obtain a career in said positions?

>>19389016
You know how I can tell the "muh cultural marxism" fags have never actually been to a liberal arts school? They have zero conception of how mind numbingly conservative the administration systems from Dean through Provost to Chancellor/Directorial Board actually are.

>>19388834
>?
I forwarded a link to DRJ of the Way of the Master, Anpu edition, for sale. He bought it up before I got paid.

>>19389251
No ALL UNI ADMINS ARE FORMER MEMBERS OF EITHER WEATHER UNDERGROUND OR STRICT "ATHEISTIC BUDDHIST" VEGANS WITH MAN BUNS LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IF I TALK LOUDER LALALA

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>>19389243
Don't be a snowflake.

>>19389251
The administration is conservative, but departments are progressive about everything but adapting the curriculum to demands of this century. They express it though constant bitching about the oppressive policies of the thermostat in their offices.

>>19389264
>"All women are mindless automatons who cannot be productive without their male masters"
>Gee, wonder who could be behind this post
>"QUIT MAKING IMPLICATIONS ABOUT ME YOU SPESHULL SNOWFLAKE WAAHHHH"

>>19389251
>How come I never see you 'muh heritage' fags logging in volunteer hours at est
Maybe because the disease that is destroying culture and heritage takes the form of the modern, degenerate person.

To stop the rot, we need a kalki to sweep through the world and separate the gold from the dross, not a worthless degree.

>>19389271
>People are human
>Therefore it makes more sense to sit around and bitch about how everything is going to shit
>instead of doing even a little bit to try and make it better

>>19389267
Being a recipient of an Anth degree from a supposedly "progressive" school, I never once heard the words: "cis, het, appropriate, deconstruction, feminist, progressive, oppression" or any of the other common accusations, and the only time we talked about Marxism was when our professors described how frustrating it was to operate in the early 70's when Marxist cultural theory was actually popular in departments.

The problem ain't the departments, it's the tumblr fuckwits who dropped out after paying too much attention to their SOC 151 TA.

>>19389274
It's all good, I'll just tell Tyrone to cancel the planning on my "Roman Art and Architecture" exhibit to let Jahquisha have the space for her postmodern urban performance art project, because Jethro here thinks he's stopping the rot by other means.

>>19389280
Out of curiosity, and not to be a dick, but what is the market value of an "anthro degree"?

>>19389294
Depends on what your spec was, where you got it, prior experience, etc.

Lots of anth work being done in marketing, especially in novel foreign markets.

The only thing ling and bio are good for is getting a masters in ling or bio.

Cultural can get you positions as described above, and archaeo(mine) is slightly better; both of these specs can be used to get your foot in the door at most museums. Archaeo has the added bonus of being good for career in surveying.

I master'd in public admin as I want to run the museum, or at least have a high level curatorial position, but an MPA is good for all midlevel and higher public sector positions, and also private sector positions that require policy adherence (budgeting, HR, certain more complex operational facets).

>>19389280
Guess I'm just in a hive of scum and villainy. Former girl's school, soc department with a heavy focus on gender and no focus on anth, blue haired bitches with daddy issues everywhere, division 3 athletics, lots of marxist holdouts waiting to draw their pension.

>>19389294
Undergrad anything is almost universally worthless. It's little more than prep for a graduate degree outside of a few fields.

>>19389306
>midlevel and higher
So usually on the order of GS 6 through GS 10, but a rigorous undergrad with a touch of prior can get you to GS 6 for most like entry level museum/archival/cultural positions that aren't just sweeping floors or front desk/docent.

>>19389307
>hive of scum and villainy
Don't get me wrong, they exist, if your school is shit, but if you're in a top fifty that has a solid graduate program (like you SHOULD BE ANYWAY) that shit doesn't fly.

>almost universally worthless
Yeah that's really a shame, they should either cut spec. reqs and merge with general associates, or add a year and a half by vocational/research focus and at LEAST get you prepped for grad like some accelerated programs do.

>>19389306
So it's not worthless like I assumed. Thanks for the info.

>>19389321
Anthro grads in all four specs perform VERY well in law school, fwiw. Anthro is a research and logic based discipline that forces you to be 'good at everything' as the sphere of study is literally everything a human can do, from shit to talk to forging complex metalworks.

An anthro degree is, at minimum, far more marketable for sort of general office type work than an undergrad in psych AND soc combined. You get all the stats and research of those two plus usually a tangible skill and interpersonal meditation.

thoughts on crowleys autohagiography? Reading it right now. Dunno if it's a hard read for anyone else or just because English isnt my first language

>>19389343
>just because English isnt my first language
^^^

I always thought Hag was one of his more readable texts.

Classic goetia says to summon between new moon and full moon. Is this still helpful when using the pastebin's planetary hour method?

>>19389343
You'll never get any better if you don't practice.

How do you guys choose what kind of magician to become? which path to follow

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>>19389320
I'm in a top 150 private college with no grad program because I'm getting out of here for less than the price of a used honda civic. Pic related. It's actually pretty good most of the time.

Seriously, there needs to be a massive overhaul. Liberal arts as it is is just a money making scam.

>>19389350
The planetary day/hour/position should probably take precedence over lunar cycles.

>>19389350
You should be standardizing for day/night hours. At worst moon phase just narrows your window by a couple weeks unless you're trying something big or to test the boundaries of Agrippa's assumptions.

>>19389377
On this topic, is a waxing moon stronger towards new moon or full moon?

>>19389257

The rat bastard.

>>19389422
I *believe* toward a full moon, because it's waxing, but I guess it depends on what you mean by "stronger"

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I'm gathering people who are fascinated with the beyond for an occult group chat on kik. If anyone's interested message graywanderer and ask for an invite

>>19389484
I didn't see that was a .gif. Your image just triggered 4 consecutive grand mal seizures and I'm writing this from beyond the grave. Fuck you!

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Reading the texts on Enochian magic, it seems pretty fascinating, but I hear a lot about how it's dangerous. Can anyone whose practiced it explain more?

http://www.arcane-archive.org/societies/thelemic/black-lodge-of-santa-cruz-1.php

>>19389547
>>19389604

https://www.biroco.com/kaos/kaos14.html

>>19389610
>https://www.biroco.com/kaos/kaos14.html
Wow thanks for that!

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>>19386025
The same thing as with all the others. The first few months would be a time of exhilaration and enthusiasm, infused with a sense of brotherhood and camaraderie. A lot of practices will be undertaken, their results shared and discussed. Everyone will be nice to each other, since every new face is new and strange and therefore manners must be observed.
Then, as time goes and the social dynamic and hierarchy becomes structured, and people get accustomed to each other and stop acting like polite pedestrians, the open club turns into a cult. The alpha male and his clique, who will become the inner circle, will form a certain dogma and sanction certain practices. Some people will start protesting this; as a consequence, splinter cults will form, each coven or conclave or temple throwing shit at its neighbour. In the original group, the former friendly and nice people who weren't cunning enough to grab the top will start gossiping about and backstabbing their fraters and sorors to win the approval of the superiors. Often they will shittalk about the head, but when the the big honcho will grace them with his appearance, they will play the Olympic game of who gonna lick his ass faster. Of course, practice will take a secondary role; in most cases, the revelations from the trances and spirits will be fabricated to fit some personal agenda. In short, expect the same primate politics of your classroom to take place. Time will pass and it will become one of the many forgotten cults of the postmodern phase of Western esotericism.
If you wanna start an a occult society no matter for what lofty reason, never - never, even for a fraction of a nanosecond - forget that, despite all the experiences, trances, communication, conversations, nirvanas, whatnot, humans remain human. All too human.

>>19389547

The Great Table, or Watch Towers, are filled with lying spirits that are restrained only for "the good". Everyone else is deliberately led astray.

Then there are technical issues, such as the fact that you can open an aethyr, but you can't just banish it, like you might most other things.

>>19389615

You're most welcome. }:-)

>>19389620
>~t. Eternal Optimist

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>>19389622
Is who counts as "The Good" entirely arbitrary? Admittedly I'm something of a Catholic who's more or less interested in developing a deeper spiritual connection to understand things like Communion on a whole new level.

So essentially I would have lying spirits to worry about, would they be attempting to disrupt the ritual? Possess me? Haunt my home?

As for opening an aethyr, admittedly I'm new to occultism so I'm not entirely sure what this would entail, basically a bridge between worlds would be open in my home or something?

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>>19389620
>If you wanna start an a occult society no matter for what lofty reason, never - never, even for a fraction of a nanosecond - forget that, despite all the experiences, trances, communication, conversations, nirvanas, whatnot, humans remain human. All too human.

But why would you have an open club? and why would you start with no structured hierarchy?

Also some lit-ass shit has come out of cults that were hot fire for a while then crumbled. I'm not sure it's even a mark of failure for a structure to collapse when its time is up.

>>19389635
>Is who counts as "The Good" entirely arbitrary?

Not entirely, but the criteria might be out of human hands.

>basically a bridge between worlds would be open in my home or something?

Something like that. Aethyrs are spaces, for lack of a better word. For an idea of their natures, see Crowley:

https://hermetic.com/crowley/the-vision-and-the-voice/index

>>19389635
>I'm something of a Catholic who's more or less interested in developing a deeper spiritual connection to understand things like Communion on a whole new level.

Beware: You may not like what you find.

Where to obtain/how to properly create a Probationer's Robe for self-initiation into A.'.A.'.?

how to summen lucifer?

>>19389610
Was that the sectual organ of the XAOC-BABALON current?

>>19389784
First entry in Grimorium Verum

>>19389784
Like, the light bearer? Or Lucifuge, the Infernal King? If the latter, Grand Grimoire.

>>19389785

More like its epitaph, or so we thought.

Reminder to all you larpers and witches: if you don't do at least 30 minutes of kapalabhati and nauli each morning, you're not a wizard.

>>19389817
You mean
>If you don't BRAG about it, when you were actually whacking to furries and lolis
There, fixed it.

So, a LOT of traditions talk about plant spirits, and lore of them particularly surrounds psychoactives like mescaline, i.e. imbuing everything (or the user,depending on perspective) with the "cactus spirit." SO, are there any traditions about Opium/Poppy spirits? Particularly as relate to addiction to the substance? I was thinking about Burroughs talking about addiction (His "Wouldn't you? yes you would..."refrain) and how, even when people can get past the physical aspects of withdraw, even after many years of abstinence and alleged 'recovery' from physical and psychological addiction, people seem more often than not to go back to it.

Thoughts?

~t. "Recovered" Opiate Addict

Here's a fun activity:
We list things that the New Thought and New Age movements contributed to occultism, as opposed to adding woowoo like most of it seems to have done. I would start but I actually don't know.

>>19389886

Ebony Anpu had a thing for opium. It went with his Egyptian work, I suppose. He said that the spirit of opium was a goddess and a very jealous one.

>>19389930
That's interesting...especially considered in light of Heroin's tendency to make other drugs, such as alcohol, less pleasant or have strange interactions (although during my years of shooting I was more often than not drunk, this was more a 'treatment' of the symptoms of opiate addiction, rather than a symptom itself.

I seem to remember actual opium/opium hash balancing with other drugs a bit better.

When did Crowley think the Aeon of Maat would come into being? He refers to the Equinox of the Gods as being approximately every 2000 years, but then the timelines he gives in different works for the Aeons of Isis and Osiris do not seem to align with this.

>>19389901
Hinduism and Buddhism and Taoism.

>>19389961
You think those systems came out of New Thought and New Age? Wot?

>>19389972
First translations and popularisations and stuff.

>>19389976
Well, yes in a way, one could consider Theosophy as the poisoned soil in which the seeds of 'new age/thought' sprouted.

>>19389976
I mean, I wouldn't call Crowley or Mathers or Bennet or Waite New Age or New thought. I guess Blavatsky and that crew were.

>>19389950
The equinox of the gods which occurs every 2500 years or so is the precessional equinox of the zodiac, when we switch from one astrological age to the next.

The aeons, however seem to not super link up to that, as you've said.

>>19389950
Pardon me, 2100 years. Duquette on the subject-

>The Great Astrological Year lasts approximately 26,000 years and is divided into 12 periods of approximately 2166 years corresponding to each of the twelve signs of the zodiac
>Because the Sun does not quite make it back to its starting point each year, it appears to slowly regress backwards through the zodiac at the rate of one sign every 2166 years.
>This is why the Age of Aquarius follows that of Pisces, which followed Aries, etc.

>>19389998
Ok yeah... I guess maybe I was conflating that with the procession of Aeons. For some reason I was thinking Crowley asserted that the Equinox of the Gods is when the Aeons shift... In an edition of the Equinox.

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A lot of the beginner level stuff in the library seems to go into the history behind some of these magical systems, but what's the best instruction for actually performing a ritual?

>>19390008
Liber O has tons of good stuff in it, as well as Magick: In Theory and practice. or you could hit up Thelemapedia or Regardie.

>>19390006
I'm pretty sure he refers to both of these things, separately, as the Equinox of the Gods. But the aeon of Osiris theoretically lasted a shitload longer than the 2000 years of the age of Pisces did, although the "dying God" fish bit really did culminate for those specific 2000 years.

I kind of think about it like the stellar, zodiacal equinox of the gods is sort of a microcosmic, physicalized form of the deity-based aeonic equinoxes.

>>19390030
Interdasting. thanks much!

>Ape says there is no sex in OTO before Hermit triad

>5th Degree OTO: The Star Sapphire

What did he mean by this?

"...Should therefore the candidate hear the name of any God, let him not rashly assume that it refers to any known God, save only the God known to himself. Or should the ritual speak in terms (however vague) which seem to imply Egyptian, Taoist, Buddhist, Indian, Persian, Greek, Judaic, Christian, or Moslem philosoÿhy, let him reflect that this is a defect of language..."
-Fr. O.M.

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>>19389620
As someone who has been obsessed with the social structures of cults, intentional communities, and utopian communes for many years I'm going to have to strongly disagree with this anon's hyper-reductionist approach. These organizations fail for all sorts of reasons. In the case of the Utopian movement of the 19th century a lot of them failed because they weren't financially viable, they didn't produce enough income to sustain the lifestyles of those involved.

In the case of more mystically inclined cults a lot of them fail spectacularly because they create their own reality tunnel and lose touch with the consensus reality of the society that surrounds them. For example, Osho actually thought he could get away with the largest bio terror attack in American history. Manson really thought he was the king of the underworld, until that same underworld betrayed him.
The case of the Solar Lodge is particularly interesting because while they did get on the wrong side of the law for numerous reasons, some of them legitimate (kidnapping), and some silly (drugs) one could argue that what did them in in the end was a failure of spiritual leadership, not grounding, as evidenced in this post:
>>19389649

There is an element of truth to the fact that jealousy and human power dynamics often plant the seed of ultimate failure. While I wouldn't say that the Hawk and Jackal lodge necessarily "failed" if you talk to people who were in that same general social circle about it they still tense up and act cagey, almost twenty years later. Despite Ebony Anpu's best efforts and the crazy number of "exercises" he was given to purge jealousy and get people outside their comfort zone I suspect he fell into the old Osirian trap of patterning his personal fascinations and foibles into the cult itself.

The mark of a successful cult is, in my opinion, whether or not the current continues after the "prime movers" are gone.

>>19390087
But then look at rarities like Hog Farm!

Hey guys I'm starting some small local esoteric groups for improving the environment by picking up cigarette butts. Butt Sects. Would anyone like to make Butt Sects with me?

Does anyone know the highest grade attained by the Venerable Fr. D.D.S.?

>"In places set aside by the centuries-old laws of sexual relaxation ...
men will meet men and there one will seek to have done what the other is more than
willing to do. 1 do not wish to speak more explicitly, except that those who go
there are driven there by weird magickal powers and influences, which come from the
unconscious levels of mind. Those who meet in these dark and often very damp places
are under the elemental forces of the deeps and must come together for they are
driven by wild and barbaric passions. There exists in those places a kind of
daemonic priesthood, truly the sons of the underworld in all of his power, and they
willingly drink the sacred cream like strange vampires, who cannot explain in any
form their bizarre behavior. They, the members of this priesthood, are driven to
these places to await the victims of their thirst. They cannot explain why they
have come there, all they know is that they must take hold of the magick wands in
their mouths and drink like a madman lost in the desert, who has just come upon a
refreshing oasis."

I don't know whether to take heed or jerk off.

>>19390087
>The mark of a successful cult is, in my opinion, whether or not the current continues after the "prime movers" are gone.
I always wonder if you could run a cult in lieu of prime movers. The ad-hoc nature of CS seems to work, considering the main group is no more and yet here you all are. What really interests me is the concept of a group that isn't, where you have no stake, no status, and no sense of belonging because the group itself doesn't functionally exist. It would theoretically weed out some of the power dynamics and ego based status drama and replace it with contract negotiations and ego-based unions.

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>>19390094
good ol Wavy Gravy and the Temple of Accumulated Error

really underrated figure of the sixties counterculture imo. The Hog Farm did two things right:
-they had productive land that contributed to the communal financial well being. Hollywood Celebrities still pay crazy dosh to send their kids to the hippy camp there. I've noticed every long lasting large commune uses their land to make money

-They cleaned up when they were getting bad attention. Everything is very "Family friendly" over there now

>>19390107
>Butt Sects
we will not speak publicly about the secrets of the XI degree

>>19390141
Dontcha kinda hate how "family friendly" usually means "no nudity or drug use, even by those 18 and older"? Boy, that really roasts my chestnuts. I'm pretty sure that's somewhat related to why children cannot be a part of the Gnostic Mass any longer, is it not?

>>19390087
that sr. capricornus story is one of the most important warnings imho. I have no idea if the voice in the desert bit is apocryphal one or not, but the first time I read that story I got a really strong "take heed if you wish to succeed" vibe off of that

>"personal fascinations"
read: sex, drugs. no shade to Br. 137, of course.

>>19390141
>they had productive land that contributed to the communal financial well being.
mission critical.

>>19390152
it's generally better to stay on the side of the government if you're trying to make a pleasant oasis within the confines of their jurisdiction. There are countless cautionary tales in this vein.

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>>19390135
>a group that isn't

I've really never seen anything like CS before and I would absolutely love to hang out with them (in their current visible manifestations) both for personal spiritual reasons and to see what their social dynamic is like.

I suspect they get around a lot of the drama issues by keeping their circle VERY tight. A quadriga is effectively a four spoked wheel where the leadership shifts every year. Even in their more public manifestations I'm sure you really have to prove yourself before you're considered worthy of entering a High Saabat.

>>19390160
>it's generally better to stay on the side of the government if you're trying to make a pleasant oasis within the confines of their jurisdiction.
I guess it comes down to whether their jurisdiction includes all (((private property))) in "their" country, or just "federally owned" (in theory, owned by the people who comprise the country) property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic

>"It's our country. It's not theirs. It's not a bunch of Used Car Dealers from Southern California. in a Democracy you have to be a player."

>>19390165
>tfw CS is The Craft with a happy ending

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>>19390203
>The Craft
jesus I haven't thought about that movie in years. It's actually a surprisingly good dramatization of the perils of magickal initiation as I recall, although it is also 90s as fuck

Yeah CS seems to have a very "dynamic" understanding of the nature of personal power according to Alogos' writings. I do wonder if they had practices similar to Ebony's "exercises"

>tfw you will never be in a Quadriga with Fairuza Balk and 90s Nev Campbell

>>19390165
In my experience elsewhere, that's what makes it work. You have a tight inner circle that's small enough to manage but is really a collective of independent operators with a common goal. Outside of the original group, which was a group within a group within a group that was affiliates with a group that was a splinter of a group, it functions more like a freedom fighter cell than the arm of an organization. For all intensive porpoises, CS doesn't exist as anything other than a boutique publisher.

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>>19390235
>tfw you will never be in a Quadriga with Fairuza Balk and 90s Nev Campbell
>tfw you gave me an feel

>>19390286
Wow. I can't even get together with ONE other person to sync Workings an sheit. I gotta say though, the "Spirit initiators," far from what I used to believe, are a very real thing. I have had REPEATED instances, time and time again, where I have a certain dream, or prepare a rite in such a way, then find out down the road that, far from being an original idea, this information has been passed down for centuries, generations, etc. but I had never seen it prior to my insightful moment. It's easy to see how, for those who aren't straight-up charlatans, one might think they are in contact with some kind of Secret Chiefs, especially as a lower-level initiate, when in fact it is nothing near such magnitude for anyone other than themselves... if only it were more difficult to be led astray.

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>>19390286
>For all intensive porpoises, CS doesn't exist as anything other than a boutique publisher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz5ql87ls4

(Here's a fun one, loudly recite the Prayer of Zos to publicly evangelizing Christfags)

>>19389901
Atkinson is far more sensible than your beloved heroin addicted, scat-freak philosopher.

>>19390300
>Crowly takes Mescaline
>We get Liber 418
>A. Huxley takes mescaline
>we get "The Perennial Philosophy"
Why? Because psychedelics can't change what's already there, but rather intensify it? As someone who has taken all kinds of psychedelics over about a decade, they actually make *less* sense to me as time goes on. Unless I view them thru the lens of the Spirit hypothesis. It seems to reconcile some issues.

>>19390335
>Because psychedelics can't change what's already there, but rather intensify it?
Eyyyup.

>Unless I view them thru the lens of the Spirit hypothesis.
Put a half gram of DMT in your glass dick and get back to me in a half hour.

>>19390325
Can you point me to a document of what Zos actually is, in the words of Spare himself? Thanks.

>>19390340
I fucking wish. I'm thinking of just making the shit. I'm not exactly a chemist, but I will sleep at a holiday Inn Express the night before.

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>>19390326
literally who?
Rowan Atkinson?
>>19390286
It's true, I really like how they also have separate "sodalities" that incorporate specific mysteries into the praxis. It's like different departments in an astral university.
>>19390335
Daniel Shulke's kooky plant magick really helps me "get" psychoactive chemicals as they relate to spiritual existence. I would give his books a read

>>19390340
>>19390354
Until my buddy is in from out of town and I have enough money to make it worth a 4 hour drive each way, I'm stuck with the HB Woodrose seeds I ordered. The website said "If we even THINK you wre going to consume any of this, we will not send it to you." Yeah, because people spend exorbitant amounts of money on the highest grade HBW seeds to fucking plant them. hundreds of them. That's the ticket!

>>19390326
Whoah, who blasted your ass? How does a random and all-encompassing suggestion come off on a personal attack on whoever the hell you happen to be wanking it to at the moment? And where did *I* mention ANYthing about ANY individual?

Anon, I know this is /omg/ but this particular brand of Projection is not considered occult.

Holy Cow.
And Wholly Chao.

>>19390335
>>19390340
https://www.lashtal.com/2205-old-article/

>>19390341
Spare described "Zos" as the human body and mind, and would later adopt the term as a pseudonym for himself. Biographer Phil Baker believed that Spare derived the word from the Ancient Greek words zoe, meaning life, and zoion, meaning animal or beast, with Spare also being attracted to the exotic nature of the letter "z", which rarely appears in the English language.

>>19390355
>literally who?
Retard.

>>19390355
>>19390391
Thankya vury much!

>>19390325
Is there any proof CS actually exists currently beyond some books and a couple banging, noided out albums?

>>19390391
>https://www.lashtal.com/2205-old-article/

(RE: Neuburg) Aleister Crowley, who had once paraded him through North Africa naked, shaved, and at the end of a chain, altogether terrifying the local populace who thought that Crowley had subjugated a djinn.

Wot? how come everyone "answers" a question about Crowley, more questions come up? It will be a very short time indeed before the man is thought to have been a myth.

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>>19390325
God dammit that penguin image got me why am I laughing

>>19390397
Not very nice anon. You could have said you were talking about the "Your Mind and how to Use it" guy. I haven't exactly paid that much attention to the "New Thought" movement considering most of it is Orientalist bullshit
>>19390403
They have an official youtube channel, with one video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CteroEPPXCE

probably the closest thing to a "commercial" for a grimoire that you'll ever see

Will Trump, the fascist king of the alt-right, be deposed as a result of the Eclipse?

>>19390422
No.
He'll be deposed by Meuller's multiple grand juries, deliberating as we type on indictment. And his own particular brand of non-competence.

>>19390422
>as a result of
*twitch*

I know this is semantically nitpicky but the language you picked here makes me want to tell you that Astrology isn't a causative factor per se. It's one of many manifestations of a cause unseen.

>>19390431
Lol I haven't had enough chaos yet though.

>>19390431
Oh god. Imagine how much loosh that would produce.

>>19390440
If you know so much, does an eclipse (the cause of the eclipse) actually lead to the deposition of Kings or is that just a meme?

>>19390431
That's Trump #1 Non-Confidence (tm), for sale in Sharper Image Catalogue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANuVKeYezs

>>19390422
>>19390431
>>19390440
>>19390446
http://www.academia.edu/493058/_Babylonian_Views_of_Eclipses_

>In order to deflect the evil portended by a lunar or solar eclipse from the king, a substitute king could apparently be enthroned before an expected eclipse.

I'm no conspiracy theorist but it's fun to speculate.

>>19390446
>lead to

It's like asking "how does the tower card lead to an upturning of your life." Or asking how a spread that shows death is coming "caused" death. It didn't. the tower card didn't *do* the thing. The thing is happening, full stop, and symbolic indicators of it are showing up

>>19390420
Your average death grips album has more crooked path in it. I know there are active groups, but there's no visible manifestation of it being anything other than an occult publisher.

>>19390442
>Guy tries to impose his brand (tm) of order on everything and everybody within and without his power
>"Chaos"
Bottom jizzle.

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>>19390453
I love this theory of yours, that trump is in place to absorb the event, and will be replaced after the dust clears

>>19390453
Fuck yes. What this country needs now is a Russian style civil war.

>>19390462
Trump has regulus ON his ascendant too so a leonine eclipse is like....buckle up friend

>>19390461
"For a man to put order into the world he must first put order into himself."

~t. chuck manson

So should I pre-order Alogos' new book and hold onto it and sell it in a decade for easy dosh?

>>19390480
Yes.
I bought the final 1e copy of Concordance to the Holy Books of Thelema for fifty. Last I checked, a few years back, it was going for almost four hundred.

>>19390459
well why don't you send them a letter if you feel so strongly about it
>>19390469
yeah his shit is fucked, im surprised people are still jumping on that sinking ship

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>>19390507
I'm super excited to be honest if not just for this unique astrological learning opportunity, like I get to see what happens to a regulus-blessed king on a solar eclipse in the sign of the Lion. What a glorious time to be a young astrologer

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>>19390480
I did. It doesn't hurt to pick up whatever you can.

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>>19390525
Yer gonna need a bigger bookcase.

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>>19390540
Nigger I'm from the future.

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>>19385862
yey the bots run strong in this one.

maybe maybe someone wants to end like the great faggot?

ready to go full junkie and then die?

go for it: do what jews will, goym

>>19390555
>The Mirror of simple souls

my man

>>19390559

and your point is, whore?

>>19390565
stop slut shaming me anon

>>19390568
yes, only nuns in enclosed monasteries shitpost on this hellhole known as x aka shit

>>19390574
you sound like my schizophrenic step mom

take your meds anon

>>19390579
"Take your meds" should be a banner or a subtitle.

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>>19390549
Pic related is u irl.

Also mfw when my copy of diary of a drug fiend got stolen in a car break in, presumably perpetrated by a literal drug fiend

>>19390586
:-/
Maybe it helped get them thru some hard times. More likely they sold it for dope money.
~t. "Recovered" Addict

>>19390582
Speaking of, 8 weeks bacopa monnieri has vastly improved my attention and memory. Also lowered overall stress levels and generally improved my mood. The only downside is the total lack of fucks you give about anything and the diarrhea.

Would recommend for anyone who is even vaguely attention deficit. Makes yoga fun.

>>19390600
>tfw out of kratom
>tfw reefer satchel getting low
>tfw three caps of hydra
>tfw even your tea blends are running on E

fug

>>19390603
Do you get withdrawals from Kratom?

>>19390600
when I concussed myself my neurologist gave me a shitload of that and 10/10 recommend.

>>19390599
He probably sold the laptop and tossed the book. He also go my magickal record, so at the least it probably unsettled him a little

>>19390607
No because I don't eat it all day every day.

>>19390608
>He also go my magickal record
https://youtu.be/A0au8s13pks

>>19390603
It's a sign. Time to go cold and walk into the desert. Would really recommend the bacopa, really helps with all sorts of withdrawls.

>>19390615
>all day every day
Hey man, good thing you're above gross oversimplifications of scientific matters.

>>19390619
He meant Hydrafinil, not-codone. However, I have tried all varieties of amphetamines, nootropics, and cocaine derivatives for opiate withdrawals. My conclusion: That shit makes it worse, unless your brain chemistry is such as that of someone with ADD/ADHD, in which case I could see how it might have the very opposite affect as it had on me.

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>>19390633
I have never, ever, eaten any opiate or opiate like alkaloid enough to develop even the phantom or spectre of addiction.

Believe it or not, the human constitution IS actually capable of taking a nod once every ten or so days without becoming chemically habituated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBzYH4SlbP0

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>>19390615
REe indeed.

It makes me laugh to imagine the intrepid thief as a superstitious person flipping through the notebook like "shit I'm about to get fuckin cursed I broke into the wrong Nissan."

More than likely though it went straight in the trash.

>>19390648
Something something the wise man drinks brave and free and gives glory to the most high god

>>19390657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7b1FL5yE8

Looking for an extremely abstract form of religion. Something that worships ideas and thought more than people and objects

I know I made that sound like most religions, but that's the best I could describe

>>19390665
Western zen. There's some enlightenment for the benefit of all beings stuff that's the crux of it, but most of the actual work revolves around your relationship with self and reality.

>>19390665
read Jung and Neumann and then reread every bit of mythology and religious scripture you can find with that in mind. get into chaos magic.

>>19386025

They already tried with their "Open Sore" A.'.A.'. It ended with a whimper when nobody bothered to join it.

>>19386177

You teach that ignorant mofo a lesson about the one true and only god, Anon.

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>>19390657

https://youtu.be/dPHYO7N7Q20

>>19390768
It actually nuked itself in formation as one participant refused to stay on task in favor of more accessible materials like a podcast while also our lineal pylon is reluctant to go public in any capacity and, frankly, I don't blame him.

Moreover, OSOAA still exists.
It's the library.
Since all formerly "secret" rituals are now public in context with unpublished A.'.A.'. papers in the form of the Yorke Microfilms + Kowal Typescript + How to Make Your Own McOTO (and my rewrites of the initiations), they are now wide open for personal work.
Please, attempt to hold your orgasms until we hit bump limit, folks.

>>19390665
Platonism.

>>19390800
>00
Or, in other words, the library now contains enough material for YOU to create your OWN lineage of A.'.A.'. or OTO from whole cloth.

"Make Your Own McOTO" is now on demand, and subscription free ;)

>>19390827
In the grand scheme of bad ideas, how bad would it be to cold call spirits until you find one willing to grant initiations to whatever asshole works your busted ass grymoire?

>>19390827
But so much of the language is still in code words. Its not like any old sot could do high degree sex magick operations with just the material you provided

>>19390839
I don't even need the material to work the XIth, it just comes naturally.

>>19390863
You intuitively know how to make ass babies? That's a great magickal accomplishment.

>>19390874
Grant was probably right about XI, and Pat King wrong.

>>19390887
Where can I find what Grant wrote about it?

>>19390893
I *THINK* Outside the Circles of Time?

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>>19387272
>it's white's turn first

>>19388911

Why would you ask this Magian clusterfuck?

>>19390909
I glossed over the details of this and read it as you saying that you think outside the circles of time and I was like... heddy bro

>>19390930
>>19388911
Not as good as Salomonic Magical Arts.

https://threehandspress.com/shop/salomonic-magical-arts/

But I'm sure you know better anon.

>>19389604

How do I get back the precious hour of life I lost reading that tripe?

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RIP My first /omg/ thread

>>19390945

Typical fanboy. You're like a '60s teenage girl fainting when she sees the Beattles.

>>19390987

Way to date yourself

>>19390987
>Beattles [sic]
Zozzle.

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>>19390986
proud of you anon

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Ho ho. The old 'show off our bookshelf game' I see.

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>>19391096

>>19391091
>gunther equinoxes
Ew.

I want that old Gems.

That POOR M:TP go get that fucker library bound.

Nice original Thoths.

Put that Budge in the garbage where it belongs.

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>>19391104
Last one.

>>19391104
What's the black thing?
Journal?
Liber L?

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>>19390555
>>19391114