The Earth is round

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I have some questions about the Flat Earth
Real questions. I'm not here to shut you up. Anyone who wants to show me "the truth" there are some things that just don't make sense to me if I'm going to start believing the earth is flat
> If the moon moves in front of the sun and it is either not a solid object or generates it's own light, why does it go dark during a eclipse?
> Why is there no map of the flat earth that can be used for navigation?
> How can the sun be seen further north and south than it can be east or west?
> Why do people looking south from Africa, South America, and Australia see the same constellations only rotated
Also gravity seems to be a major point of contention when discussing the flat earth
> If gravity is real, does it disprove a flat earth?

https://youtu.be/lzDGvyiJ0rc

>>19384706
That picture disturbs me, what happened to all the countries that no longer fit

>>19386688
https://youtu.be/fbQQBzXAQ1Q

>>19386769
What is your evidence that Earth is not a spinning ball? (0:25)
How do you explain NASA's images and videos of Earth? (22:32)
What about the ISS, Hubble, Moon and Mars Landings? (27:06)
How does gravity work on a flat Earth? (39:11)
What does the flat Earth look like? (45:42)
Where is the edge of the flat Earth? (49:51)
What did early explorers have to say about Antarctica? (56:00)
How do you explain circumnavigation on a flat Earth? (59:24)
How do you explain ships disappearing over the horizon? (1:00:29)
Why can't you see across the ocean with a telescope? (1:03:06)
Are distance photographs the result of a 'mirage'? (1:04:22)
What about the Felix Baumgartner Red Bull dive? (1:07:22)
Are all the planets flat or only the Earth? (1:09:29)
How do you explain eclipses on a flat Earth? (1:14:20)
What is underneath the flat Earth? (1:17:14)
Is there a dome covering the flat Earth? (1:21:05)
How do you explain time-zones on a flat Earth? (1:22:51)
How do you explain seasons on the flat Earth? (1:24:17)
How does flat Earth account for the midnight Sun? (1:26:27)
Why do the Sun/Moon appear bigger on the horizon? (1:28:29)
How do you explain seeing two sunsets from the Burj Khalifa tower? (1:30:27)
Is moonlight really just a reflection of sunlight? (1:34:12)
How do you explain the moon being upside down in the South hemisphere and rightside up in the North? (1:35:34)
How do you explain seeing curvature from a plane window? (1:36:29)
How do you account for satellites, GPS, and Google Earth? (1:38:00)
How do you explain meteors, comets, and craters on a flat Earth? (1:43:03)
How do you explain Foucault Pendulums? (1:47:52)
How do you explain the Coriolis Effect? (1:48:51)
What is the Flat Earth Society? (1:50:43)
Why hasn't anyone blown the whistle on this secret? (1:55:54)
Why does it matter whether or not the Earth is flat? (1:58:31)
Why would they lie to us about the flat Earth? (2:05:54)

I don't see my questions listed there

>>19386769
>>19386830
I was mildly wrong about the eclipses. This video says there's a third object the size of the moon and the sun that causes eclipses. I would like a picture of this object and only this object. Clearly if this object is what is obscuring the moon during lunar phases it would also block out stars behind it when it was only covering half of the moon. Also I would like a picture with the moon in the sky during a solar eclipse if it is what causes them

It did mention gravity, but only to say it doesn't exist which doesn't answer my question on if it would disprove FE if it was a thing

The moons orientation in the two hemisperes was another question I had but did not put down. It DOES mention this in the video but it's explanation is terribly wrong. It shows four pictures of the moon over the course of three hours(?) and it shows the shadow on the moon in different locations and claims the moon is rotating (which the pictures do not show it doing, only the shadow)

>>19384706
Kys

>>19386688
>>19386769
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>>19386885
The Flat Earth "Movement" demands proof of the Earth being Spheroid, rejects all proof given as a lie, and refuses to give any proof of it being flat

>>19384706
I'm not going to its a sin to make idols.

>>19387279 The Ball Earth "Movement" demands proof of the Earth being Flat, rejects all proof given as a lie, and refuses to give any proof of it being a ball.

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>>19384706

I agree. It is round, and flat. Like a disk. It can be both. Time to go back to school for you nigger.

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>>19387279

Well the math is wrong. There should curvature at extreme heights (cue nasa cgi/fisheye lens)

So either its a lot bigger and round or flat.

We should be seeing 8(miles squared)
or
8in.(distance in miles^2)

Which means to take the square root of the distance traveled in miles and then multiply that figure by eight inches.

So for example, if you traveled one mile, the formula would look something like this;

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature

And for the first ten miles traveled of curvature in inches…

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature
8(2×2) = 32 Inches of total curvature
8(3×3) = 72 Inches of total curvature
8(4×4) = 128 Inches of total curvature
8(5×5) = 200 Inches of total curvature
8(6×6) = 288 Inches of total curvature
8(7×7) = 392 Inches of total curvature
8(8×8) = 512 Inches of total curvature
8(9×9) = 648 Inches of total curvature
8(10×10) = 800 Inches of total curvature

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>>19384706
>>19387279
More proof of lack of curve, also small local sun. Pay attention to the small hotspot below the sun and the lack of curvature

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>>19384706
This guy does a good job explaining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-reOiipagg

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>>19384706
Timezones work on flat earth as seen

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>>19384706
Also temp zones

>>19387341
The hotspot for sure is dumb as fuck. You can see those while flying in an airplane and they'll move with the plane
Also how about video of that spot or any like it from close up?

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>>19387372
Heres more

>>19387385
It's moving with the plane and not shown close up
Did you read what I said?
Are you retarded?

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>>19387341
What different would it make. If the SUN is 93 million miles away AND HUGE, why is the spot so small?

>>19387416
I'm not sure I understand your question. The sun appears as a certain size in the sky, why would it's reflection in the water be bigger?

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>>19387362

>what are angles of incidence
>what is specific heat
>what are currents

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>>19387428
It appears a certain size WITH a small hotspot because the sun isn't as big/far away as we're told

>>19387458
Care to explain the midnight sun?

https://youtu.be/LjvtmzbEgm8

>During Arctic summer, from the 22nd to the 25th of June, at a high enough latitude and altitude, you can watch a phenomenon known as “the Midnight Sun” where the Sun stays continuously visible in the sky for 3 days straight! The “Midnight Sun” rises on the 22nd and for the next 72 hours never disappears from sight, slowly ascending and descending every 12 hours, showing 3 brilliant “sunsets” and “sunrises” without ever actually setting below the horizon. If the Earth were actually a spinning globe revolving around the Sun, the only place such a phenomenon as the Midnight Sun could be observed would be at the poles. Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight. To see the Sun for an entire revolution on a spinning globe at a point other than the poles, you would have to be looking through miles and miles of land and sea for part of the revolution! Anyone below the 89th parallel could never witness the Sun for 72 hours, 3 whole revolutions, straight because to do so would be to assume you are somehow seeing “through the globe” and to the Sun on the other side! Since such an assumption is ridiculous, and yet the Midnight Sun can clearly be seen as low as the 65 parallel, this is another absolute proof that Earth is the flat, stationary center of the universe.

>>19387508
I'm assuming you're trolling at this point
You keep using the word hotpot. It's a reflection of the sun, as again proven by the fact that its moves with the plane and getting closer would shrink the size as well as the fact that there are no recorded fifty mile wide death patches that move across the earth
That picture is a terrible example, by the way. That light may only directly illuminate that wall where it is closest, but it would be visible from any other point on the flat wall, even in the darkest corner
Also - Australia is 1975.96 miles long top to bottom. If the sun was only 3,100 miles up it could not rise on the same part of the horizon on the northern and southern parts of the continent

>>19387524
> What is the tilt of Earth on its' axis?
> "The sun can't do what it does because I say it can't"

>>19387524
This shows how it could do the same thing on a flat earth. It doesn't DISPROVE the globe

>>19384706
Allah is an alien, a based and highly intelligent alien, and he says the earth us round, so I trust him.

>>19387524
>Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight

That is in fact the exact opposite of how tilt works. At 90 degrees of tilt, half the planet could experience the midnight sun. At 24~ degrees, a significant amount can see it.

>>19387564
>what is atmosphere

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>>19384706

>>19387607
The tropic of cancer is 4255.15 miles north of Australia, but the sun, only 3,100 miles up still rises in the west because of refraction from the atmosphere
This refraction plays no part in the rays of the sun coming through the clouds though. They tell you exactly where the sun is

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keep it up ball earth shills, one of these days you'll be free

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Flat earthers are either all trolls or complete retards everyone just ignore them.

>>19387362
Sun shines on earth from only one side. What the fuck are you on not to understand something this simple?

>>19384706
>prove me wrong

Earth is an electron
Prove me wrong.

you cant, because the statement contains no substance.
when making onus is on you my friend.

I'm no flat earther, don't get me wrong i know its a spheroid. but you still need to provide proof behind your claims, or you will be no better than those who believing a flat earth

>>19386769
How are you retards always unable to answer these very simple questions? It is almost as if you were extremely lazy trolls.
Post something about "le shills" now

>>19387329
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>>19387348
>>19387356
>>19387362
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>>19387508
chill with the dump. You still need to answer these questions from the very first post. Nobody is going to believe your shit if you are unable to answer this simpls stuff. please>>19386688

>>19387385
R E F L E C T I O N

>>19388164
are you actually a bit dumb or something?

>>19387362
As the year goes by, the Earth's revolution around the sun makes the heat distribution even despite the tilt. Because overall, the heaviest lit area is still the equator, you dense cunt.

>>19384706
The earth is a sphere as it is more curved at the equator's and isn't a perfect circle or round.
Proved ya wrong, now where's my cookie?

This might come as a shocker for many of you but the actual shape of the earth is quite ugly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzDGvyiJ0rc

>>19388234
you know that this is EXTREMELY exaggerated in order for the differences to even be visible? right?

>>19388241
>>19388234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhxL1LzKww
the earth is actually smoother than a pool ball

>>19388191
no
do you not know of the burden of proof. just because something is accepted by most to be true, does not mean it is accepted by all, so when making a claim, one must back it up by evidence, not just ask to be proved wrong, that's literally just shit string. and cancer. even more so than flat earth threads because your fueling the fire instead of letting it die

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>>19386688
> If the moon moves in front of the sun and it is either not a solid object or generates it's own light, why does it go dark during a eclipse?
https://youtu.be/m0dDw-8Nhow
>“Even if we admit refraction, and that to the extent seemingly required to prove that when the eclipsed moon is seen above the horizon, we are still confronted with a fact which entirely annihilates every theory propounded to account for the phenomenon. Taking the astronomers’ own equation of 8” to the mile, varying inversely as the square of the distance, for the curvature of the earth, where sun and moon are both seen at a lunar eclipse, the center of the sun is said to be in a straight line with the centers of the earth and the moon, each luminary being 90 degrees from the observer. This would give about 6,000 miles as the distance of each body from the observer. Now, what is the curvature in 6,000 miles? No less than 24,000,000 feet or 4,545 miles. Therefore, according to the astronomers own showing an observer would have to get up into space 4,545 miles before he could see both sun and moon above his horizon at a lunar eclipse!!! As lunar eclipses have been seen from the surface of the earth with sun and moon both above the horizon at the same time, it is conclusively proved THAT THERE IS NO ‘CURVATURE OF THE EARTH,’ and, therefore, that the world is a plane, and cannot by any possibility be globular. This one proof alone demolishes forever the fabric of astronomical imagination and popular credulity.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (78-9)"

>>19388260
>asks people to disprove something
>"n-no you prove it first"
fucking flattards, man. They never just fucking answer something, they always wiggle their way out of facing the problems in their theory with stupid shit like that. Just see it as a postulate you dumb sperg

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>>19386688
>> Why is there no map of the flat earth that can be used for navigation?
There has been. Also for fun, take what Sarah Palin said about Russia being a "backdoor neighbor to Alaska". On a flat earth map, its obvious thats true, but because of TPTB, she had to shy away from those comments as seen in this clip.

https://youtu.be/gk8moOxzlGQ

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>>19386688
>> How can the sun be seen further north and south than it can be east or west?
Not sure what you mean without examples but take the orbit of the sun into perspective.
https://youtu.be/sb5kDVdPx84

>"When you look up at the Sun and Moon you see two equally-sized equidistant circles tracing similar paths at similar speeds around a flat, stationary Earth. The “experts” at NASA, however, claim your common sense every day experience is false on all counts! To begin with, they say the Earth is not flat but a big ball; not stationary but spinning around 19 miles per second; they say the Sun does not revolve around the Earth as it appears, but Earth revolves around the Sun; the Moon, on the other hand, does revolve around the Earth, though not East to West as it appears, rather West to East; and the Sun is actually 400 times larger than the Moon and 400 times farther away! That’s right, you can clearly see they are the same size and distance, you can see the Earth is flat, you can feel the Earth is stationary, but according to the gospel of modern astronomy, you are wrong and a simpleton worthy of endless ridicule if you dare to believe your own eyes and experience! "

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>>19384706
>> Why do people looking south from Africa, South America, and Australia see the same constellations only rotated
This may help explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahNfU7zYlmY&t=34s

>NASA and modern astronomy claim that star-trails in the Southern Hemisphere rotate clockwise, while those in the North rotate counter-clockwise and provide this as proof positive of their spinning ball-Earth. In reality, however, the Earth is an extended flat plane and all the stars and other celestial bodies rotate East to West around Polaris, the only non-moving star in the sky situated perfectly in line directly above the North Pole. The so-called "South Pole" and South Pole star "Sigma Octantis" are both myths - complete fabrications to bolster their ball model. The following video exposes the entire hoax and explains in detail how star-trails work on the flat Earth model, and how they do NOT on the ball. Special thanks to My Perspective, Aaron Dover, David Kay, and all the other flat Earthers who have helped uncover the truth about this key issue.

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>>19386688
> If gravity is real, does it disprove a flat earth?
"The entire heliocentric model of the universe hinges upon Newton’s “law of gravitation.” Heliocentrists claim that the Sun is the most massive object in the heavens, more massive even than the Earth, and therefore the Earth and other planets by “law” are caught up in the Sun’s “gravity” and forced to orbit perpetual circles/ellipses around it. They claim that gravity also somehow allows people, buildings, the oceans, and all of nature to exist on the under-side of their “ball-Earth” without falling off.

Now, even if gravity did exist, why would it cause both planets to orbit the Sun and people to stick to the Earth? Gravity should either cause people to float in suspended circular orbits around the Earth, or it should cause the Earth to be pulled and crash into the Sun! What sort of magic is “gravity” that it can glue people’s feet to the ball-Earth, while causing Earth itself to revolve ellipses round the Sun? The two effects are very different yet the same cause is attributed to both.

Furthermore, this magnetic-like attraction of massive objects gravity is purported to have can be found nowhere in the natural world. There is no example in nature of a massive sphere or any other shaped-object which by virtue of its mass alone causes smaller objects to stick to or orbit around it! There is nothing on Earth massive enough that it can be shown to cause even a dust-bunny to stick to or orbit around it! Try spinning a wet tennis ball or any other spherical object with smaller things placed on its surface and you will find that everything falls or flies off, and nothing sticks to or orbits it. To claim the existence of a physical “law” without a single practical evidential example is hearsay, not science."

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>>19388312
>>19386688

forgot links regarding gravity

https://youtu.be/Gg2URbkJo18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J18e30zTyE

>>19388292
given that the map you posted is just a projection of a globe, it is also obvious true for a globe. Or do you think Alaska and Russia arent "neighbors" in the globe model? Cant really follow your logic here

>There has been
where? where the fuck can I find a map useful for navigation? You lnow, something like google maps for flat earth? Never seen something like that.

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>>19388185
Here you go, hope this helps.
>>19388284
>>19388292
>>19388296
>>19388305
>>19388312
>>19388314

>>19388312
You have a gross misunderstanding of how gravity actually works and then base your argument on those faulty notions. Thats just strawmanning. Educate yourself first before criticising

>>19388318
No. Not really. Still unanswered.

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>>19388316
Flat earth map is used by UN. The globe map is a projection of flat earth.

Google isn't going to make a flat earth map, they work for CIA.

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>>19388322
>>19388323
Thanks for providing examples.

>>19388327
>still not providing a working flat earth map
ok. then I can assume there isnt such a thin, right? Oh, I mean it only exist in secret, being used by the UN and shit and you just happen to magically know of it anyway, right? hmmm, really activates my almonds, anon

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>>19388335
>not providing a map
>>19388332
>>19388332

Deactivate those almonds, I don't understand your argument. These are 3 examples of a legit map flat earth map, what more are you looking for?

>>19388332
Yeah, great examples of posts pointing out how you failed to answer very simple questions in a meaningful way without bullshitting your way around it.
>hurr, if gravity holds a planet in orbit, why dont we all float away
Thats typical bs argumentation based entirely on your own misunderstanding of the concept, proving that you arent able to adress the problems at hand.

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>>19388343
>>19388335
>>19388343
Meant to link back to this >>19388292

>>19388343
this is a logo. it is black and white with a resolution of 244X207. This is an acceptable map for you? You can navigate with this? You can accurately plan a route with this?
Please provide a map of lets say australia according to the flat earth model.

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>>19388345
Gravity was invented to explain how water sticks to a ball.

Density and buoyancy can explain everything gravity can, and they aren't theoretical bullshit.

If I drop an apple and it falls, its because the apple is denser than oxygen.

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>>19388312
fucking this.
Gravity is such bullshit and it is sad that people are still being fooled by it

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>>19388359
I meant to link something else, see >>19388350

Heres another.

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>>19384706
>>19386747
I hate this photo it's so misleading and seems to convince lot of people that NASA are lying about everything. Let me explain why this photo of earth shows the united states at with such distorted proportions.

The maximum amount you can see of a sphere at any one time is 50%, the closer you get to said sphere, the less of it you can see. You can still see the horizons but your field of view greatly decreases the close you get to the shear. Basically the earth is very very big, It's so big that even a lot of our satellites can not take full pictures of the earth, they're simply not at a far enough distance for the on board camera lenses to see the full globe at 50%. So what they will often do is take a lot of photos as they obit, then stitch them together and give you an idea of what the earth looks like. The only "real" full images of earth need to be taken from the moon, or at least a sufficient enough distance so that the camera lenses can pick it all up. Which is much further than what most of our satellites orbit at.

I can prove this too.

Google earth is what a spherical earth is supposed to look like, see in this image how as I zoom in on England, other countries near the horizon start to disappear. It gets a little difficult to see because a computer screen is such a limited field of vision, (similarly to the limited field of view of a camera lens) however you can definitely see how in the 4th zoom a lot of Canada has disappeared beyond the horizon. Eventually by 5th image, the earth appears to be essentially flat. But we're still thousands of kilometers about the surface. from this high up Mt Everest would look like nothing, and yet the earth is so huge it still appears flat from this high in orbit.

So what do they do when it's literally impossible to take full sized images o earth from orbit? They put distortion effects on it, much like I did in the 6th image here.

(1/2)

>>19388360
Yeah, but what is the driving force behind matter reorganizing itself in this way? Why would the apple even move, what causes it to move towards the Earth rather than sideways or up?

>>19388360
>Gravity was invented to explain how water sticks to a ball
No.

>Density and buoyancy can explain everything gravity can
They cant. Density is just the ratio between mass and volume, it doesnt describe any force whatsoever. Buoynacy doesnt work without gravity. It needs gravity to be explained. If you take gravity out, you now have a hole in explaining how buoyancy works.

You are basically saying "things just fall down"

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>>19388371
(2/2)

I want to also mention I greatly exaggerated what NASA does in my image just so you can see the process in a less subtle way, but, to a lesser extent, that is what they did with this image, everyone's favorite "NASA is lying to us all" image. They're not even lying I believe they have stated that this is what they do before, but don't quote me on that because I can't find a source. But I hope this explains at least this image of earth and why many photographs of earth are slightly distorted. It's just because they need to be to get as much information into the photo as possible. Like I said the only way to get a "real" image of a sphere is to get to such a far distance that you can see 50% of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhxL1LzKww

here's a vsauce video that explains my point a lot better.

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>>19388373
Logic. Common sense. Non-fiction. Proven methods.

Outer space is a fun concept where anything can float anywhere, but if NASA is full of shit, what do we really know? WE PAY BILLIONS TO EESA/NASA for ... cgi/fisheye lens images of EARTH??

I argue beyond zero-g, theres no need to explain why something falls to the ground beyond weight. Einstein was a great fiction writer but gravity is a way to loophole arguments against globe earth.

>>19388382
Oh, you're trolling. Okay.

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>>19388381
>>19388371
Can v-sauce explain this video?
>>19388382

>>19388369
>I meant to link something else
this is even worse man. for the same reasons. are you pulling my leg?

>Heres another
this one is much better. still a bit small. isnt there any website with a workable map or something? whatever, so you think the proportions in this map are accurate? You could plan a roadtrip through australia based on it depiction here?

>>19388387
I don't know don't ask me on not V-Sauce. What's even supposed to be going on in that video?

The real question is why is Polaris so important and what does a flat earth truly mean

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>>19388386
Unintentionally I am. Keep an open perspective.

Has scientific understanding always been CORRECT? Is science today 100% correct?

I share the hypothesis that ancient man (even from 500 years ago) was correct in the belief that the world is flat.

>>19388382
>is unable to explain something
>just goes into "NASA lies" mode and posts debunked webm for the millionth time
ok, retard. Can someone else explain what force is responsible for things falling down?

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Oh damn i just found out about velocity. This makes sense. I dont believe in flat earth anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTY1Kje0yLg

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>>19388391
You tell me. EESA receives billions of euros every year and they forget to layer their CGI versions of earth??

>>19388394
>science had wrong understandings of things before, therefor everything must be bullshit

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>>19388396
Keep trying

The natural physics of density and buoyancy determine that objects denser than the medium surrounding them sink while objects less dense than the medium surrounding them rise. This is the reason raindrops fall down through the air, while air bubbles rise up through water. Objects at perfect equilibrium with the medium surrounding them levitate in place like the balloon in the following video.

https://youtu.be/Gg2URbkJo18

>>19388401
thats literally just your own personal interpretation of what we see. And it is one of the most unlikely interpretations of what we see. but please keep spamming

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>>19388402
Must've missed this part

>"I share the hypothesis that ancient man (even from 500 years ago) was correct in the belief that the world is flat."

I believe old science to be correct.

>>19388401
mate I was just debunking one image of earth, I haven't a clue what is happening in this video. Just looks like a bunch of cosmic shit to me. Are you claiming it's an untextured CGI mock up of our planet? So..? What does that prove? But more importantly how does it relate to my argument at all?

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>>19388406
Ok np, I'll keep spamming while you deflect with non arguments.

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>>19388412
See >>19388418

ITS FAKE! Thats what it proves. Why can't we get (((REAL))) footage of earth??

Because its fucking flat. Why else? NASA MAKES 60million --- A DAY!!!

There is some really hidden occult knowledge being hidden from everyone that has to do with flat earth I believe FE is just the tip of the iceberg

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>>19388425
You are not wrong. Tesla figured out some very interesting stuff, just lookup the hutchison effect.

Or look what what ADMIRAL BYRD was talking about

>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south

pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

>>19388404
>density and buoyancy
see
>>19388378
Those arent forces and buoyancy isnt explained without gravity.
What FORCE is acting upon objects making them fall down? You dont seem to understand the problem. With the bubbles and raindrops you are just describing an observation. I am asking WHY. And no, saying "density" is not an answer. not at all. It isnt a force. So please dont repeat yourself again.
And also, why do things fall at the same rate? Why do things fall in a vacuum? How do raindrops know to fall down? The atmosphere isnt perfectly decreasin in its density, so why do they still follow one strict direction through it?

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>>19388438
Ok fair enough. So why is GRAVITY a theory and not proven?

>>19388418
Yeah, it wasnt an argument. I was just describing what you did with your post, anon. Just to be fair, since some anons might want to look at it with an open mind. Like maybe you are right, but there are dozens of other interpretations of that footage

>>19388424
confirmed troll
You went a bit overboard here

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>>19388441
So this is real footage -- as my interpretation. It doesn't show some crappy cgi that shows a "see-through earth" with all the stars seen clearly where layers are missing.

Also see>>19387341

>>19388439
It is not proven that masses attract each other? Thats what you think?
And whats with the dodging? So, ok, lets assume that gravity is total bs. How does that answer my questions on how this shit works on flat earth? I mean, this is the whole basis of this conversation. What is the alternative to gravity?

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>>19388445
Great argument, thanks for proving me wrong about flat earth.

>>19388454
You're arguing with a troll. You guys can stop now.

>>19388451
>the footage is only real when it doesnt btfo my beliefs
checks out

>>19388455
>he goes for the canned "hurr great argument" response like the lazy amateur troll he is
one last (You), just for the dubs

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>>19388424
I'm assuming you're being ironic but just in case you're not, did you read what I said? NASA "faking" images of earth is kind of true, in that a lot of the photos are a bunch of, real, satellite images, stitched together. They have to because unless you're SUPER far away from the earth you can NOT get a full image of the sphere at max 50% FOV.

Jumping to the conclusion that "because no images of earth are 'real', it MUST be flat" is an insane stretch and is completely illogical.

>NASA MAKES 60million --- A DAY!!!

I don't even know if this is true or not but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and tell you that space travel is incredibly expensive and mostly unprofitable. Why would we send someone all the way to the moon just to get a photo of the earth when we already have satellite images? Even if we did that (which we already have) you'd just deny it and claim it's fake.

>>19388445
I know he's probably a troll, I just find it fun responding to these people.

>>19388455
That is not an official image of the earth rising from the moon's horizon it's just someone's Photoshop. The earth is much further away from the moon than that.

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>>19388454
>What is the alternative to gravity?

A proven principle called --- density and buoyancy.

As stated before, gravity explains things like how water sticks to a ball, the theory of relativity explains how we (((travel))) at 1000mph but can't feel it.

Its pseudoscience. Einstein was science fiction writer; Tesla was a true genius.

>>19388305
>The so-called "South Pole" and South Pole star "Sigma Octantis" are both myths - complete fabrications to bolster their ball model.
Youre a clic away from int, and two clics from there to several thread from people in the southern hemisphere. You can ask them to tell you how false their night sky is.
The stars in the southern hemisphere are different, and they change gradually as you move south, with a relative speed that corresponds with earth's curvature. This is literally how people travelled for millenia.

>but no, its just different stars plastered onto a dome, you just cant see all of them at once
Cape Horn in South America, the Cape of Storms in Africa and Australia all share the same night sky, yet they are in completely different directions in your flat model, so they should have completely different constelations.

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>>19388466
If you say so

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>>19388464
My favorite fake of earth.

>>19388456
You mean, like otherwise I would be wasting my time on 4chan? lmao, get real

>>19388472
>density and buoyancy
see
>>19388438

>>19388472
>the theory of relativity explains how we (((travel))) at 1000mph but can't feel it.
Why would you feel it? We can only feel acceleration. Velocity isnt even a force. Your criticism is completely invalid and shows your confusion and lack of understanding

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>>19388487
What force is gravity? Its a unproven theory, wrap your head around that for a second

UN-proven. If an object falls, its due to weight (ie density). Again, if the apple falls, its HEAVIER/DENSER than oxygen. We need gravity to explain how these things occur on a globe, which is round and defies logic.

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>>19388492
Lack of understanding, gotcha. Nice ad hominem
see image >>19388404

There is no measurable movement of the earth. 1000mph is faster than the speed of sound.

Check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-reOiipagg

>>19388493
>What force is gravity
attraction between objects with mass. This explains why things move in certain directions with the same rate and even in a vacuum.

>its due to weight
weight is defined by gravity. Things weigh something because of gravity, so you cant use weight as an alternative to gravity either

>than oxygen
Because air is only made out of oxygen and it is uniformely distributed throughout the whole atmosphere? k

>brings up density again completely missing the point of
>>19388438

yeah, I think we are done here

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>>19388521
You have such a boner for gravity, EXPLAIN WHY ITS NOT PROVEN!!!

WHY IS GRAVITY STILL THEORETICAL SMART GUY???

>>19388495
>Nice ad hominem
It isnt. You claimed that we should feel the velocity of the earth. This is objectively a misunderstanding of what velocity is. I dont say your argument is bad because you are a dumb person, it is bad because you base your argument on a false expectation. Thats pointing out a fallacious methotology in your line of reasoning, not an ad hominem.
You can only feel a change in velocity. At a steady speed, there isnt any force acting on you

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>>19388530
So... the earth spins on axis at 1000mph, faster than the speed of sound. Thats your final answer?

>MUH THEORY OF RELATIVITY
>MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU, ALWAYS, DAS WHY YOU CANT FEEL IT DUMMIE LOL

>>19388312
As another poster said, you have zero understanding of gravity and how it works. We stick to the Earth because it has the largest gravitational field strength at this point. If you go close enough to the moon, it's gravitational field strength will be stronger and you'll orbit it. If you want to know why you're not pulled off into space try plugging the numbers into the gravitational field strength equation (g=GM/r^2) where G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the body being orbited and r is the separation distance.

Assuming you can't do basic maths, the gravitational field strength on the Earth's surface is 9.81 (1g) this means you'll accelerate towards the Earth's surface at 9.81 metres per second per second. Similarly, if we plug in the numbers for the sun that would be 5.9x10-3, four orders of magnitude lower I.e. ten thousand times weaker. This is already cancelled out, however, by the fact that the body we're on is accelerating towards the Sun.

If you want to ask why the Earth doesn't crash into the sun, it's the same question as why your car doesn't crash into the centre of a roundabout when you enter one. Centripedal force. Every body in nature wants to move in a tangent but Einstein proved that spacetime is like a fabric that can be curved. The higher mass bodies curve it a lot so even though the Earth wants to move in a tangent, it's compelled inwards and the resultant of those two forces is a circular movement around the sun.

Perhaps if instead of saying "I don't understand this so everyone else is wrong" you said "I don't understand this so I will try to" you might not be a fucking retard. Enjoy your day.

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>>19388553
You did a good job paying for course lectures and memorizing lies.

I understand what you're saying, I'm saying its wrong and providing ample proof all around this thread.

Gravity is a theory. Sun/moon is local and small. Earth is flat and possibly infinite.

You'll figure it out someday, you're a smart guy.

>>19388564
I haven't paid for anything, that's a basic highschool level education in physics.

I'm not seeing a lot of proof. I'm seeing doctored images to try and win over 50 year old yanks who believe scientists are communists out to get them. If the "proof" that the Earth is spinning at 1000mph is yours, another poster already proved you wrong. If you travel at 120mph solid and remove everything around you then you don't have any proof that you're moving at all. We only feel accelerations because forces produce accelerations, not velocities. If the Earth stopped spinning, we would all be wiped out because of the monumental acceleration but it spins at the same speed so we feel nothing.

You also betray your lack of knowledge of science in any way by thinking that calling something a "theory" means it's devalidated. A theory in science is the highest accolade a hypothesis can achieve. It means that it is backed up by a mountain of peer reviewed substantial evidence. But you don't grasp that because you have no education in science, which is stating the obvious I suppose.

>flat earthers actually forget that when you're traveling in a car at a constant speed you don't feel like you're moving until you change speed or direction.

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>>19388603
Whats the difference between theoretical and proven method?

>If the earth stopped spinning

Who was able to prove the earth IS spinning? How did we figure out it was 1000mph? Is that another (((THEORY)))???

Step up your game smart guy.

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>>19388618
Didn't forget, I just don't buy into bullshit.

see>>19388546

>>19388633
>car physics are bullshit
Now you're just too obvious

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>>19388634
No its Einsteins (((THEORY))) of relativity I don't buy and his shitty car example
>WHEN YOU DRIVE, IS IT THE CAR MOVING OR DA ERTH MOVING UNDER THE CAR??? RELATIVITY OMG

Theres no measurable movement of the earth and you never answered my question >>19388629

Who was able to prove the earth IS spinning? How did we figure out it was 1000mph? Is that another (((THEORY)))???

>people believe in gravity
what the actual fuck

>>19388641
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8

>>19388629
Proven method? You mean what is the difference between the theoretical method and the empirical method? Theoretical uses theory and logic, empirical uses observation and experimentation. Both have advantages, both have disadvantages. Theoretical methods aren't related to a theory, they're just theoriticial methods.

Well we have two options. Everything about us is spinning and we're stationary or everything else is mostly stationary and we're moving. The former has no evidence and the latter has this thing called a Foucalt Pendulum. It's difficult to explain so I recommend looking it up and you might find that's all the evidence we need to prove the Earth is spinning and not the other way around. Anymore?

>>19388641
The car had nothing to do with relativity m8, do continue to prove your ignorance.

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>>19388666
Nice one satan

>It's difficult to explain so I recommend looking it up and you might find that's all the evidence we need to prove the Earth is spinning and not the other way around
>Anymore?

YES FOOL! YOU DIDN'T ANSWER SHIT!

THIRD TIME FOOL! Who was able to prove the earth IS spinning? How did we figure out it was 1000mph? Is that another (((THEORY)))???

>>19388564
"Earth"
"Ice"
"Adjacent world"

Quite sure even my cat's cosmogony is less retarded.

>>19388677
Léon Foucault who invented the Foucalt Pendulum proved that the Earth is spinning. To know how fast it's spinning you just need to know some constellations and the radius of the Earth. Look at one constellation, wait for a full day until you can see it in the exact same spot which would take 24 hours. Once you know the radius, you use Angular velocity=2π/T and then plug that into v=(angularvelocity)x(radius of the Earth) to get the spin.

This is honestly b8 at this point, no one can be this retarded.

>>19388404
You people know that buoyancy is a funtion of gravity, right? That it works because the concentration of the fluid in the system is denser below than it is above(this is due to increasing weight loads as you travel downward, as you go deeper there's more water above adding weight), and the difference of density from the top of the object to its bottom is sufficient enough to cause a net force to be present. How much net force is dependent on the density of said object.
If an object is denser than the fluid it's in, the small force upward provided by buoyancy won't be enough to counteract gravity's pull, and said object will sink.

It's not that you're wrong, you aren't, it's just... You don't seem to realize that without gravity, buoyancy wouldn't be a thing. Think, gravity pulls down, all the time. Why do things only rise, or fall? Why do they not move in other directions? You cannot deny that something pulls everything to the ground, downwards, towards the center. Like a centrifuge. We just call this thing gravity, then we measure it. We believe in gravity because we've yet to find a place without it.

>>19388677

Since we know the earth rotates once a day we know the time for a full rotation. We also know the size of the earth. Knowing these two things it's basic mathematics.

Circumference of earth in miles / hours in a day.

~ 24,902m/24 = ~1037.58... mph

You don't feel the speed because you move with it at a constant rate. Much like how when you cruise in a car on the highway at a constant speed you don't feel anything.

You can tell the earth is spinning by looking... the stars move across the sky each night. We have people in the space station with a live feed showing it spin. inb4 Photoshop/Fake if you think that then gl with your delusions.

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>>19388335
here's the real one

>>19388721
>my proof of the earth being a spinning ball is based on the assumption that the earth is a spinning ball
seems a bit circular for a globetard

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>>19384706
This is the Image of the Earths true shape that the Government does not want you to see!
>Save this before the mods remove the truth!

>>19388728
Wouldn't the earth curve in then?

>>19388728
Ok, so not flat ?
Cymbal shaped maybe ? xD

>>19388327
>Flat earth map is used by UN.
>hurr, da UN yooses a flat pik-chur, so erf iz flatt u guize!
We really need to just treat flatties like lepers and force them to live in shitty hovels outside of civilized areas.

>>19388439
A Scientific Theory=/=a scientific hypothesis. Theory, when we're talking about a mathematical or scientific concept, is an EXPLANATION. It is the why. A law is the how. This is high school level shit.

>>19388439
Scientific theorys are fact just because it's called theory doesn't mean it's isn't proven.
As long as it holds up the the evidence we find and doesn't contradict anything it's pretty much fact.

>>19388394
Humans are a very young species it seems ridiculous to say everything we know is 100% fact it wouldn't surprise me if we find a new theory better than relativity.

>>19388394


>>19388394

>>19386688
I remember a video about what a flat earth's gravity would be like. It seems the farther away you get from the center the more it's like you're going uphill despite the surface being relatively flat, because mountains, hills, and whatnot.

Can we all agree that a flat Earth would make for an interesting story?

I know there's a sci-fi book that just came out that's about a world where no one is able to turn or they'd be stretched into infinity, so they have parasites in their heads that can help them see left and right. Also I think the light from the sun is only able to shine from East to West, the same direction the inhabitants can see or move without stretching to death, and that there is an edge that can't seem to be bridged.

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This image depicts a dipole. Note how the lines return to the opposite pole. The electromagnetic force uses photons as it's force carrier - the quantum unit of EM energy exchange. Objects can retain photons, and emit them later, which is the cause of magnetism.

A photon always wants to return to the magnetic point that emitted it. That means that as a photon is emitted or bounced off the surface of Earth, it travels away with a curve.

On a flat surface, this means that as you get further away from a light source, the light has curved more - this produces an illusory pit at a certain distance all around you, called the horizon.

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>>19389284

Formally, this is called Atmospheric refraction;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refractio
>This refraction is due to the velocity of light through air, decreasing (the refractive index increases) with increased density
>Astronomical or celestial refraction causes astronomical objects to appear higher in the sky than they are in reality. Terrestrial refraction usually causes terrestrial objects to appear higher than they actually are, although in the afternoon when the air near the ground is heated, the rays can curve upward making objects appear lower than they really are
>Refraction not only affects visible light rays but all electromagnetic radiation, although in varying degrees. For example, in the visible spectrum, blue is more affected than red. This may cause astronomical objects to appear dispersed into a spectrum in high-resolution images

Much of astronomy is fiction. We in fact live on the inside surface of a sphere.

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>>19389311

Spaceships are like submarines, because they use electromagnetic pressure (Differences in charge, ie, North has 100,000N and South has 100N) to force the universe to transport them where they want to go on updrafts of light, like birds.

>>19384706
Of course it is. It couldn't be hollow if it were flat now, could it?

>>19388975
not a ball going around the sun at 66,600 MPH anyway

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>>19389342

The people who inhabit these spaceships have been known throughout the ages. The Beatles put Crowley on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's, and in the Yellow Submarine they perfectly depict the UFO, the land it comes from (Pepperland, the Pure Land,) and the people who pilot UFO's (Uplifted Hippies.)

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>>19389357

Yeah, about that... pic related.

The cosmos is literally a manufactured product, made by freemasons.

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>>19388629
>water never curves

>>19389372
t-total coincidence! just like all the 33s hidden in plain sight!

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>>19388466
>That is not an official image of the earth rising from the moon's horizon it's just someone's Photoshop

does 5 second research

>taken by Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

globetards will wave away anything.
wont realize all globe photos are fake

>>19388618
>opens car window.
>feels ALL THE SPEED

cars are closed systems..just like the earth.

>A theory in science is the highest accolade a hypothesis can achieve

what about all those LAWS.

i LOVE WATCHING PEOPLE ARGUE THE MEANING OF THEORY AND COME UP WITH DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

Also lets go over all the gravity theories and explanations that have failed this far
.
>emergent property of mass
>gravitons
>gravity wavves
>spacetime bending
>a force

>>19388553

Thank you for posting this

>>19388564

You aren't providing proof, at least not at the caliber of the post above.

You know how I can tell someone doesn't know what they are talking about? It's when they post images, or two-hour long video clips that 'explain everything'.

You should be able to summarize it to me, not just point to something else.

'Earth is flat and possibly infinite'- This is a perfect example. How did you come to this conclusion? What makes you think the earth is 'infinite'.

In fact, the picture you posted shows the opposite of an infinite flat-earth.

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>>19389372

The Milky Way is a literal staircase to the stars. You can find it's twin bases at Earth's poles. I call it the Bridge of Heaven, and it also leads to other universes via the supermassive blackhole at the center of the galaxy.

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>>19389250
>Humans are a very young species

wrong, Darwinism is a direct attache to Heliocentricity requiring an explanation for how animals and creatures developed on a spinning ball flying through space, rather than a closed ecological system( terrarium)

>>19389195
>>19389222
>theory

so which is it.. a hyypthesis or a fact

>>19389172
this kaliyuga style of thinking is why globe earth is shit.

and we would love to love secluded from this sick society, but the ball earth lucifer worshiping mythemagicians want our tax dollars and to keep us from discovering free energy

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>>19389412
>supermassive blackhole at the center of the galaxy.

never proven r seen and only hypothsized to makee sense of the heliocentric model retroactively

the best part is you model of the universe is not heliocentric at all , and your belief in this extended universe come from Nasa bullshit

thats moving the goalpost

>>19388495
inb4 foucalt expirement proves spinning Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emwgDIFW9yc

>>19387329
>800 Inches
I hope you know that that's only about 20 meters, which is extremely negligible at the distances you are talking about. Also you pulled that formula out of your fucking ass

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>>19389410
don't bother engaging with these flat earth heretics, brother

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>>19388234

>retroactive Earth fitting

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>>19389412

Returning to the aliens/demons - their true identity is as children of the 7;

>http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta08.htm
>Of the Immortal Man it should be said that He is hermaphrodite, or male and female
>He neither slumbers nor sleeps, and is governed by a Father also both male and female, and ever watchful
>Such is the mystery kept hidden to this day, for Nature, being mingled in marriage with the Sky Man, brought forth a wonder most wonderful--seven men, all bisexual, male and female
>http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta29.htm
>we find Sephira [Kether], the first androgyne, at the apex of the upper triangle, emitting Hachama [Chochmah], or Wisdom
>http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta30.htm
>Further, the androgynous constitution of the Elohim (God) is disclosed in the next verse, where he (referring to God) is said to have created man in his own image, male and female;

72 / 7 = 10.28571428571429, 259,200 / 10.28571428571429 = 25,199.99999999999 / 10 = 2,519.999999999999, thus illustrating how the lengths of the ages are derived. What this entails is that each of the 7 'men' or hermaphrodites had roughly 10 children, with an extra 2 coming from a birth of twins. These 72 hermaphroditic gods are then multiplied by 2 to obtain 144 - the 72 demons listed in the Ars Goetia and the 72 angels of the Shem Hamphoresh. 144,000 days is one Baktun of 400 360-day years, and 360 * 72 = 25,920 * 10 = 259,200. A planet which experienced 25,199.99999999999 local years for every 25,920 would be placed 0.972222222222222 times Earth's distance from the Sun, producing a 354.861111111111 day year;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar
>Because the period of twelve such lunations—a lunar year—is a little less than 354 days
>the lack of intercalation causes the lunar months to cycle through all the seasons of the Gregorian year over the course of a 33-lunar-year cycle

>>19388255
In the fucking video you are referencing it says the earth isn't smoother than a pool ball you moron, smoothness has nothing to do with circumference either and the earth isn't a perfect circle due to how various forces interact.

>>19389454

That isn't the earth with all the water removed. It's a visual model of the earth with the water removed. It's one representation of what it could look like.

That picture has representations of other planets but they are not scientific models such as the picture of earth.

This isn't proof, it's cherry-picked images to make you believe something that isn't true.

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>>19389465

We can therefore say that these angels and demons are associated with this lunar cycle, such that 33 lunar years is 354.861111111111 * 33 = 11,710.41666666666 / 365 = 32.08333333333332 solar years;

>http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta29.htm
>When the ten numbers which pertain to the globes (Sephiroth) are combined with the 22 letters relating to the channels, the resultant sum is 32--the number peculiar to the Qabbalistic Paths of Wisdom. These Paths, occasionally referred to as the 32 teeth in the mouth of the Vast Countenance or as the 32 nerves that branch out from the Divine Brain, are analogous to the first 32 degrees of Freemasonry, which elevate the candidate to the dignity of a Prince of the Royal Secret
>we find Sephira [Kether], the first androgyne, at the apex of the upper triangle
>From this eternal and ancient androgyne--Kether--come forth Chochmah, the great Father, and Binah, the great Mother. These two are usually referred to as Abba and Aima respectively--the first male and the first female

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>>19389477

There are also 32 major characteristics of the Buddha;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha
>Long, slender fingers
>Thighs like a royal stag
>Hands reaching below the knees
>Well-retracted male organ
>Height and stretch of arms equal
>Every hair-root dark colored
>Soft, smooth skin
>Soles, palms, shoulders, and crown of head well-rounded
>Area below armpits well-filled
>Lion-shaped body
>Full, round shoulders
>Forty teeth
>Jaw like a lion
>Eyes deep blue[8]
>He has tube-shaped fingers and toes
>His fingernails and toenails have a rosy tint
>His fingernails and toenails are slightly upturned at the tip
>He has a deep-shaped abdomen
>He has the strength of 1,000 crore elephants or 100,000 crore men
>He has a protruding nose
>His face is long and beautiful
>His cheek cavities are fully rounded and smooth
>The tips of his bodily hair are neither curved nor bent
>His sinews and tendons don't stick out
>His sinews and tendons are deeply embedded in the flesh
>His forehead is rounded and beautiful
>He has large brows
>His brows reach the outward corner of his eyes
>His hair has the colour of a dark shadow
>He has curled hair

Which is a perfect description of an Aryan. In Vedism there were 33 gods;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-three_gods
>Eleven Rudras, consisting of: [...] Ātmā "self"
>Other sources include the two Aśvins (or Nāsatyas), twin solar deities

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>>19389483

The number 33 occurs in many natural and artificial contexts;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_(number)
>A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones that form the coccyx are counted individually
>The New General Catalogue object NGC 33, a double star in the constellation Pisces
>There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry
>The Yakuoji Temple in Japan has a two sets of steps, one with 42 steps for men to climb, and the other side with 33 steps for the women

33 steps were chosen over 42 to represent intentional self-limitation and self-restraint, which defines the female sex. Physical proof of this law can be found in the existance of the Y chromosome - when a male's chromosomes are put through a centrifuge, they form 22 autosomal layers and 1 sexual layer. This is opposed to a female's chromosomes, which includes two X's of very similar mass that form a single layer - thus the male has 23 layers and the female has 22. A Martian year is 686.971 days long - 686.971 / 42 = 16.35645238095238 * 2 = 32.71290476190476. Thus, Mars (The male) takes 42 steps while the Moon (The female) takes only 33 steps - a lunar month is roughly 29 days, and Saturn's orbital period is roughly 29.451 years. 29 + 42 = 71 / 72 = 0.986111111111111 times a complete 72-year-per-degree interval.

32.08333333333332 * 2 = 64.16666666666665;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram_(I_Ching)
>The I Ching book consists of 64 hexagrams

>>19384706
Want to know a sad thing? There exist people who don't understand the concept of anisotropy. If people would at least study the anisotropic effects caused by warping a spherical surface onto a plane, there would be substantially fewer willing to believe the FE bullshit.

See pic. related? How is the anisotropy of South America and Africa not obvious? There are people who think tectonic plates actually work that way... You know, like make really jagged shore lines only along the E and W coasts of continents further away from the N pole.

Hopeless luddites. All of them.

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>>19389476

>It's one representation of what it could look like.

So what you're sayin is all the ball models are not real?

I agree

>>19388369
This map shows air routes planned for war. Can you please, pretty please explain the fucking flight paths that go on distances not even most modern planes could handle in one fueling by going around instead of going straight across the map and saving on time and fuel

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>>19389493
forgot pic

>>19389372
But none of that is true..

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>>19389486

365 / 42 = 8.690476190476191 + 64.16666666666665 = 72.85714285714283.

365 / 33 = 11.06060606060606 * 3 = 33.18181818181818 * 2 = 66.36363636363636 + 5.63636363636364 (11.06060606060606 / 2 = 5.53030303030303) = 72. 11.06060606060606 is close to the orbital period of Jupiter (11.8618 years,) which would be 5.9309 + 66.36363636363636 = 72.29453636363636. Thus, the number 72 can be derived by adding a small male portion (5) to a large female portion (67.)

An example of these numbers (Masculine 5, feminine 6/7) can be found in the molecular structures of prostaglandins and estrogens;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostaglandin

Pic related - it's a prostaglandin. Note the pentagon, composed of five points or atoms.

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>>19388369

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>>19389493
Wanna know whats really sad?

The "heliocentric model" isn;t even sun centered, we show you air baloon footage, and proof Nasa is full of shit, and we give you the why

, yet you ball heads defend it with unproven concepts and hypothesis like blackholes, Great Attractor, and Gravity,

that have no bearing in reality, yet here you are shitting on FE when we naturally assume the Earth is flat, which was the standard model for thousands of years

And you use this theory to push a spiritually devoid paradigm which is directly responsible for the degeneracy and vice ridden culture we face today.

>>19388677
They're probably covering up bizarre weather phenomena caused by huge squadrons of UFOs flying in to refill our repeatedly-emptied oil reserves.

> I unironically believe this. Really.

>>19389486
You;re literally just saying numbers.
>3*4=12, 12 is the square root of 144. 144-90=34. Thus god is real
like, what...

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>>19389512

Estrogen on the other hand is composed of six points or atoms;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen

Pic related is an estrogen - note the hexagon with three lines inside of it. Those lines represent double bonds, meaning this hexagon is smaller and stronger because the extra energy pulls the atoms closer together.

This same hexagonal structure is seen in graphene and lignin.

>>19389517
NASA has always been full of shit. It doesn't mean the Earth is flat. Launches are risky, there is a severe radiation risk in low orbit, and we can't afford to regularly lose astronauts to cancer. So, they really do film a lot of stuff in training tanks and in front of green/blue screens.

Get something in orbit over 200km, then tell me what you see. The problem with the drone and balloon footage is that nobody had the place of mind to mark the horizon level on screen before launch, and then note how the horizon dips very slightly below that line at about 100k feet. You're looking at about a 3 degree difference (depending on reference point - I'm assuming 1 foot away from the center of the screen's virtual projective plane). Its possible to draw a horizon line as a post-processing effect, too.

>>19389530
Prostaglandins are extremely prevalent in men and women. They only have prosta- in the name because they were first discovered in the prostate.

And define "stronger" in the case of the benzene ring in estrogen

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>>19389528

Matter above and below is structured according to the smallest patterns. Water ice around 32F forms a hexagonal structure, and on a macroscopic scale produces snowflakes with six points.

By learning these numbers, we learn how God made the universe, and become Archeitects of the Universe - angels like Enoch, aka Metatron.

>>19389530

Pic related is lignin. Here, the double bonds are represented with circles.

In nature, this lignin is turned into coal beneath the Earth. The highest grade of coal is graphite, which is composed of disordered sheets of graphene.

>>19389552
Why is there usually such a strong correlation between Schizophrenia and devout belief in God? I'm borderline myself, but I've been decaying slowly enough to reflect how my point of view changes from time-to-time. You have to realize that most of what is in the Bible was put there by plagiarists and liars (e.g. King James).

When you start studying atomic structure, your perception of "beauty" will change, or you will find this reality quite reprehensible - the work of an amateur at best. What sort of psychopath develops a universe in which sentient denizens of the typical planet are forever condemned to wander its surface? I honestly don't think that the sadistic, psychopathic frame required to find this acceptable could persist within the mind of an omnipotent being. My conclusion, for a very long time, has been that we are just very, very unlucky.

>>19384706
round, yes
spherical, no

>>19388360
Why can a periscope not work on a sphere?

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>>19389538

>Prostaglandins are extremely prevalent in men and women. They only have prosta- in the name because they were first discovered in the prostate

Indeed, but the principle is that male and female are pieces of a hermaphroditic whole - different masks on the same being.

Prostaglandins cause inflamation. Another molecule that causes inflamation is histamine, which is also a pentagon. Serotonin is a combination of a hexagon and a pentagon, and scorpions combine histamine and serotonin in their venom;

>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041010111000079
>In contrast to spider and snake venoms, scorpion venom usually displays low levels of enzymatic activity (Gwee et al., 2002). They contain mucopolysaccarides, phospholipases, hyaluronidases, protease inhibitors, low molecular weight molecules such as serotonin and histamine, histamine releasing peptides

A graphene sheet is composed of hexagons locked perfectly together - save for naturallly occuring pentagonal and hexagonal defects. Histamine and serotonin cause gaps in the hexagonal structures within the body, causing their expansion microscopically and tissue inflamation macroscopically.

This process is painful and destructive. Men commit more violent crime than women, and are traditionally considered more aggressive and violent. Jupiter is also the fifth planet in the solar system, and thus the correspondence is justified.

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>>19386688
^ Here. Sorry I posed my questions before going to bed. I guess I'm going to have to answer as many of the responses I got and attempt to disprove them one at a time. Bear with me
Admittedly I am not smart enough to answer everything but if there is a point I can no longer disprove any point I must accept the facts and begin trying to work my way in the opposite direction
>>19388284
This question was for an eclipsed sun and not an eclipsed moon
This video is confusing to say the least. It says lunar eclipses can happen with both the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. It provides no evidence of this happening. It does provide still pictures of the moon in phases during the day. There's a difference between a full moon reaching a new moon through phases and a total lunar eclipse of a full moon being completely eclipsed over a period of a maximum of 107 minutes.
It twice shows a solar eclipse from a plane. This is given without explanation or argument
It uses refraction as an argument for a flat plane and then claims an argument of refraction for a globe to be a shallow attempt and makes no attempt to disprove it. I find this incredibly duplicitous
It does, however, show stars through a moon during its' phases
This one I am not smart enough to truly answer, unfortunately. But I do not see any stars outside of the moon in these pictures. And I could guess (again this is a guess) as people have recorded satellites as shadows passing in front of the moon at night; they would be reflective in the sun's light. But this is made more difficult by the fact that both are still pictures and neither of of very high quality
>>19388292
This map can not be used for navigation unfortunately. Albeit that any distance following along the individual lines of longitude would be correct, that would not be true for any distance between any two different lines of longitude and this problem worsens the father you move away from the center of the map

>>19389598
Sounds like you've got some damn good weed, anon.

>>19388200
what are on about, are you that deluded?

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>>19389535
Globe logic

>can see boats go over immeasurable curve at sea level
>hur durr your ballons and planes didnt go high enough to see the curve

keeping track of heliocentric contradictions is a full time ocupation


>NASA has always been full of shit. It doesn't mean the Earth is flat. Launches are risky, there is a severe radiation risk in low orbit, and we can't afford to regularly lose astronauts to cancer. So, they really do film a lot of stuff in training tanks and in front of green/blue screens.


so why should we keep paying them billions of dollars in tax money to sell us horseshit ..

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>>19389468
yet they skirt right over all the "proof" of the globe showing perfect spheres

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>>19389568

>Why is there usually such a strong correlation between Schizophrenia and devout belief in God?

Because schizophrenics prefer to think of connected concepts over non-connected concepts;

>https://www.spl.harvard.edu/archive/spl-pre2007/pages/papers/nestor/Nestor_1998_2.pdf
>However, as reflected by the statistically signif- icant interaction of connectivity and group, the pa- tients showed a pronounced effect of connectivity: recall improved substantially for words of high con- nectivity and declined dramatically for words of low connectivity

The schizophrenic mind is bad at seeing connection, and so becomes obsessed with whatever connection it can see. Subjectively, I can also say that the subjective feeling of the strength of the connection is also increased in schizophrenics.

Basically, schizos are the next step in evolution. As Lovecraft wrote, 'The old ones were, and they shall be again.' Julian Jaynes wrote of ancient schizophrenic civilizations;

>http://deoxy.org/alephnull/jaynes.htm
>Jaynes adduces evidence for this astonishing hypothesis from several sources. One is the "voices" heard by schizophrenic patients, which Jaynes interprets as a throwback to the bicameral mind of ancient times
>"Who then were these gods who pushed men about like robots and sang epics through their lips? They were voices whose speech and directions could be as distinctly heard by the Iliadic heroes as voices are heard by certain epileptic and schizophrenic patients...The gods were organizations of the central nervous system
>Jaynes suggests that each person had his own individual "god", which always told them what to do. The theory further accounts for why the gods were so naturalistic and anthropomorphic, rather than supernatural and otherworldly

>>19388289
right because spheroid means flat
i don't want to live in the world anymore, the ignorance and stupidity is mind numbing

>>19389342
>Spaceships are like submarines, because they use electromagnetic pressure
Can you backup that claim

>>19389676
pressure of water v.s. breathable air.

which allows metal submarine to change it's buoyancy.

gravity has fuck all to do with it.

>>19389454
I have a strong desire to inflict lasting bodily harm on you for your disgusting level of willful ignorance.

>>19389420
You want to push a baseless model that flies in the face of all science and reason as truth? You shouldn't be allowed the benefits that came from said science and reason.

>>19389682
It also has nothing to do with electromagnetism, dipshit.

>>19389713
This. Why don't you go back to treating illness with leeches and concoctions of sheep piss if modern science was just invented to push the Satanic Jew Illuminati worldview?

>>19389716
because the way water and air molecules align and react to one another have nothing to do with electromagentism..

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>>19389713
>push a baseless model that flies in the face of all science and reason as truth?


>NASA has always been full of shit.

yea because im pushing my "baseless" theory for your tax dollars and maintain you blind faith in aliens and black holes

>>19388292
>>19388728
>>19388369
>>19388327
>>19388332
>>19388343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw
You don't have a map that works
>>19388312
>>19388314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIglW-hlVs
Gravity is a thing
>>19388305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMooNFtFJk
How stars in the sky work
>>19388418
>>19388424
>>19388401
>>19388455
>>19388472 (picture)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMtwSVO0PQk&t=371s
I may not like the tone these videos use, but if you can disprove the math and science being used in these videos then I'll never post them again

>>19389652
> muh money
Money is worthless. It keeps people employed.

>> hur durr your ballons and planes didnt go high enough to see the curve
They really didn't. Here's a related article:

> Reports and photographs claiming that visual observers can detect the curvature of the Earth from high mountains or high-flying commercial aircraft are investigated. Visual daytime observations show that the minimum altitude at which curvature of the horizon can be detected is at or slightly below 35,000 ft, providing that the field of view is wide (60°) and nearly cloud free. The high-elevation horizon is almost as sharp as the sea-level horizon, but its contrast is less than 10% that of the sea-level horizon. Photographs purporting to show the curvature of the Earth are always suspect because virtually all camera lenses project an image that suffers from barrel distortion. To accurately assess curvature from a photograph, the horizon must be placed precisely in the center of the image, i.e., on the optical axis.

> Lynch, D. K. (2008). Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth. Applied Optics, 47(34), H39-H43

None of the pictures offered in support of flat Earth are provided in conjunction with how they were taken. Build an apparatus, fly it higher than 200k ft (or as high as it can go), and provide a schematic in the publication so readers can verify measurements. Use the sphere model to predict the horizon drop from a line across the center of the screen. Chances are, given the meager altitude one can achieve with a drone or balloon, the measured drop and predicted drop will both be very difficult to discern.

Again: In this case, you'll need to prove there is NO horizon drop. To do that beyond any doubt, you'll most certainly need to leave the atmosphere. I.E. Use a rocket to deploy a gyro-stabilized camera ball that is aimed at the horizon.

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>>19389765
>moving goalpost
>reinforces point by showing more cgi earth
>ignores video with 200 proofs and follow up question answered video because its easier tko claim there is no proof rather than entertaining the idea that evrything you believe is a lie
>cognitive dissonance in a nut shell

>>19388408
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_rotation#Stellar_and_sidereal_day

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>>19389768
Here's another related image.

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>>19389768
>moving goal post to magical distance where Earth will be curved, despite failing to show curvature in any thread except using nation space agency footage.

even if we do that, you'll say 250km or 300 km

same as sun was originaly 3 million miles away and now 93 million.

you can keep theorizing mathematically forever to protect your theory because the fact is you dont want the earth to be flat and undo all your belief in the bs you were taught in school.

keep holdng out hope but there is a limit to how high one can go before you turn back to nasa who has already been proven a farce

>>19389511
word, cuz the earth isn't a ball

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>>19389787
>because sattelites exist gais
>we can see curve from sea level with boats going over horizon
>we can see space station from ground pass by

>you fat earthers are dumb thinking if you use geometry that you'll see the curve we keep saying is there.

>keeps trusting nasa's bullshit as proof of your ball earth fantasy

>>19389795
> top image is uselessly blurry
> 2nd image it is possible to see that the left and right edges are slightly further away from the center line than the midpoint. Difficult to say for certain due to mountain tops.
> Bottom is on surface. We call this a control.

Not protecting anything. I'm protesting the complete lack of rigor. Nothing published about how the pictures are taken, what camera & lens was used, how it was mounted to the drone or balloon, so there is no way to verify. Just a bunch of low resolution, shaky anecdotal videos made by amateurs or bored pilots.

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>>19389511
duh, Earth isn't a ball

>>19389773
Sweet debunking of a single point in any of the videos

>>19389732
I hate to break up your little circle jerk but just because one rejects the unproven ball earth it's not a rejection of science in general.

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>>19389819
> top image is uselessly blurry

oh nice lets ignore the other images and videos in thread of high altitude flat surface, and just say this one is too blurry to know for sure.
>>19389652
>>19388633
>>19388451
>>19387385
>>19387341

again ball earthers ignore and refuse to discuss all the fake nasa /esa bs

>>19389795
Here's the top image after clipping out the text and using default magic wand settings to select an area of the atmosphere gradient in photoshop.

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>>19389846
Forgot pic

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>>19389820
DELET THIS

>>19389856
kek that pic is from a video that was posted already

>19387341

>>19389773
>>19389813
>>19389844
> "cognitive dissonance in a nut shell"

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>>19389874

nice try though

>>19387341

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>>19389874
Link?
Srsly, I just made it a few minutes ago.

Also, here is an obscenely oversaturated version of the whole picture.

>>19389882
Is that your only response?

I can understand being skeptical of flat earth but ignoring all the proof of nasa bullshit is just ..kinda sad.

i mean you can't even make your on response and just greentexted mine. is that what you do with all the theories you faggots. copypaste and pretend it's research?

most of you even stopped using images all together , and say it's because we'll say it's fake after we show you proof it's all fake.

you go over santa and tooth fairy, im sure you can get over aliens and space.

but you'd rather shout from the rooftops that god/intelligent designer being fake huh

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>>19389904
> here is an obscenely oversaturated version of the whole picture.

I have one of those too

>>19389904
Sweet. So the pictures in -
>>19389795
Can never be used as evidence for a FE again. Keep track. Use different evidence. This will be the only real way to prove anything

>>19389914
I was still waiting for you to disprove a single one of the arguments from any of the videos I posted

>>19389834
>use math to show why FE model doesn't work
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR EVIL JEW MATH, GLOBEY! MATH WAS DESIGNED TO PUSH THE ROUND EARTH MODEL!!!!1!
>Use tried and tested physics models to show why FE model wouldn't work
PHYSICS ARE THE WORK OF THE DEVIL AND GRAVITY WAS INVENTED BY THE FREEMASONS!

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>>19389904
I did link it, twice
>>19387341


>>19389922
>Can never be used as evidence for a FE again.

fine if you don't use nasa shit again as proof of the ball.

>>19389745
Flat Earther genocide when?

>>19389936
> fine if you don't use nasa shit again as proof of the ball
Actually, I personally, haven't yet

>>19389924

sure, i'll do that while you start on these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SlRsbQ3nfM&t=106s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

>>19389702
that's just the ball earth programming taking, anon

>>19389921
Yes, another fake. I'm not claiming NASA is in the business of telling the truth. The fact that they've been faking this most of their stuff is blatantly obvious, though we did actually land on the moon, and that is part of why we're never going back. There is a campaign to disinterest the public in space exploration for a reason, and I believe it has to do with increased ET activity that is otherwise highly visible. We're probably in a quarantine of some kind, and illogical propaganda is just part of a deprogramming scheme.

Whether parts of this are an elaborate troll or not, I have met some very unstable people who believe this. What I find troubling about it, is that it seems correlated with chronic high stress - a surprising number of inner-city people (usually homeless) buy into things like flat earth.

>>19389929
by Allah, the shills are adapting

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>>19389938
kek, this is how globheads deal with people they can't successfully convince of your bullshit.

KILL THEM ALL.

and they say science is better than religion.
If you consider the body count of the last century of athiest materialism, you are worst than the 100 years war.

>>19389941
at some point you will, because they're the only people who can confirm the curve/ball/space for you.

flat earthers can be satisfied with the earth being flat from where we stand and don't require a government agency to tell us whats true and what to believe.

And it is strange you havent addressed the fact that nasa is fake...as if youre avoiding the topic.

>>19389960
this, those all caps are't fooling anyone.

>>19389943
I give you 80 minutes
You give me 240 minutes
But you know what? I'm game. I will be reposting in four hours. I expect yours in under and hour and a half

>>19389844
>>19389342
>Spaceships are like submarines, because they use electromagnetic pressure
Back up that claim

>>19389957
>The fact that they've been faking this most of their stuff is blatantly obvious,


So why isn;t this the discussion.

why are we giving them billions for lies and what else are they lying about.

why do ball earthers ignore this completely and press their arguments with science and theories based in Nasa data.

>>19389964
If you ardently follow a religious belief, you are putting a leash around your neck. The desert trilogy is literally a Masonic invention for control of civilization. (((They))) really don't like you thinking about the insignificance of their interests compared to the vastness of space.

Yes, just stay here goy. Pay your taxes and tithing goy. We don't need to mine asteroids because they don't exist. There is nothing else to the heavens but little decorative lights and a giant bulb that levitates by inexplicable means. You don't need to understand optics, geometry, or logic. Let your mind waste away in obedient misery, for it is a sin to question our manufactured almighty.

>>19389988
>>Spaceships are like submarines

thats not me.

I don't believe in space ships.
flying saucers are advanced tech being kept from us.

along with free energy

>>19389964
If the church were still in charge, we'd still be in the dark ages and burning anyone who openly said "Wait, that doesn't make any fucking sense!" at the stake for witchcraft.

>>19389990
Let's establish this very important point: Money is literally worthless. Complaining about taxes is really complaining about a system designed exclusively to curb individual wealth. It will never go away.

NASA has served two purposes in the past: To garner public support and interest in the occupation of Earth orbit for the purposes of defense under the guise of exploration. Then, to slowly fade away, its facade crumbling into little pieces one revelation after another as a way to foster public irrationality.

All government organizations exist to control the population by any means necessary. However NASA falls into that scheme is determined by the people running the show. Apparently, there is now an interest in pushing irrationality, because it makes people sedate, accepting of a false reality that is easily manipulated through lore and literature over time.

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>>19389991

im not advocating a religion, I just hate living in a theoretical limbo while technology only improves smartphones while we still use petroleum and support israel.
>Yes, just stay here goy.

noone is going anywhere goy, and if youre aware of the jews you should already know how much they lie about EVERYTHING.

>employment rate
>food
>education
>healthcare
>military policy
>news media
>political parties
>religion
>space
>9/11
>JFK
>war on terror
>2008 recession
>banking
>immigration

Fucking everything

>We don't need to mine asteroids because they don't exist.

we havent even grabbed all the shit on the bottom of the ocean.

>You don't need to understand optics, geometry, or logic.

literally using these things to debate the jews influence and shape of the earth.

>>19390012
My point: If you are happy with the Earth being flat, you are happy not knowing about any friction that might exist between us and something that wants us to stay here. It is a step backward - accepting flat Earth means accepting that you are condemned to live on a tiny world for the rest of your short life, controlled by a cabal that only sees you as a redundant component of a larger machine. To look upward and see opportunity means that one must postulate there is more to reality than the miserable surface one is standing on.

>>19390012
so is it flat or what?

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>>19389994
The catholic church is in charge dude. We live in a roman provence. Who do you think manages the calendar the ENTIRE WORLD lives by. also Jesuits.

I can happily explain all this if you create another thread for it.

> Money is literally worthless.

dh, but central banking is again jews, but my time spent working for worthless money for food and shelter is not worthless.

I will say this, you're more woke than most balltards, so thanks for giving me hpe.

Why don't you flat earthners go to the "end" of the world and prove that the earth is flat? It's super easy. Just get in a boat and reach the wall, film it and show the world. But you can't, but you'll insist that nasa won't let you do it. It's easier than saying you are wrong.

>>19389964
I feel like Nasa is part of the day 1 stuff for the Flat Earth. I watched videos for a few months after seeing a "FE Cringe" video trying to see what convinced people to take up this belief over others
Do not take my questions as a form of hate or mockery. (even if I may, at points, become rather frustrated)
If this is the truth I want to know it
I will work through each point and attempt to disprove it
Inevitably I should come to a point where I have removed all doubt in either direction, for or against

>>19390036
I tried but everytime I get close to Rothschild Island the black helicopters tell me to fuck off

>>19390018
Petroleum is easy to control. Miniature fusion reactors, not so much. Imagine what the world would be like if everyone had the ability to fly anywhere on Earth they wanted in a matter of seconds...

Now imagine how convenient it is to instead deal with a society that believes something inherently false. If they believe the Earth is flat, and they see our personal transport craft flying around in unbelievable ways, they'll just call them "demons" or "illusions" and not bother investigating their origins, construction, or mode of operation. They will simply sit there and stagnate within whatever framework they are molded into, churning away making what negligible, predictable contributions they can.

At the very least, anyone making a claim that disagrees with an established observation (though now buried in who knows how much falsified data), should at least foster the ambition to build a solid foundation for their claims, then finally prove them beyond any doubt. The simplest thing to do, IMO, would be to build a solar powered drone and try flying it over the south pole.

I'm far from an optimist. If Earth really is flat, or a component of some simulation that doesn't extend beyond the sky we see, life isn't worth living - there is no purpose without potential.

Now for what I've accepted about reality - It makes more sense to me that the Earth is round. With a good telescope, you can see round planets. Even Tesla was able to make out the characteristic valley on Mars. Unfortunately, stars are very difficult to focus on due to atmospheric diffraction, so they look like little blobs.

>>19390027
Earth is "round" - as in oblate spheroid. This whole flat earth thing just stinks of Skull & Bones taking advantage of the mentally lax.

>>19390045
I do not believe for one second that you have ever tried
Welcome to 4chan
> Pics or it didn't happen

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>>19390023
>accepting flat Earth means accepting that you are condemned to live on a tiny world for the rest of your short life,

pople believe the world is a ball and this is still the case

>>19390027
very likely, but not proven for certain. we could be on a flat surface in the ball similar to a gyroscope

definitely not spinning ball with water on the surface revolving around the sun,which revolves aroundthe GREAT ATTRACTOR

>>19390058
Earth being a ball means there is a universe of other such habitable spheroids waiting to be explored. We should insist on the release of technology developed in black budget project for the purpose of public benefit. Personally, I think this is, among other things, preparation for the elites to make an escape with it - and what few relevant needed resources remain - while we are all still arguing about nonsense.

>>19390056
it was a joke, shill

>>19390055
oh that's funny.

so you're saying the Lucifer worshiping illuminati freemasonic skull and bones created fake nasa and ban you from exploring antarctica

all of this just take your tax dollars, and 50 years after faking the moon somehow only recently through youtube nerds convince you the earth is flat and God exists?

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>>19390064

>>19390080
>evolution only works on a globe earth
Ok.

>>19390072
> convince you the earth is flat and God exists?
No, I believe the Earth is round. I'm not really sure of the point you're trying to make, but I'll take a guess...

Its more than just one cabal involved. NASA was once used to funnel resources (not 'money') into black projects. Now that it is no longer needed, its been strung up like a pinata and is being beaten to little pieces.

>taxes again
They could set the tax rate to 0% and still keep these things going. Taxes exist to curb inflation (lest we have more frequent violent wars upending the entire world), and more importantly (to them) prevent the accumulation of wealth.

Yes, we should be angry, but asking to shut down NASA is just a waste of time. They are hiding things from us that could have taken our civilization to other worlds. They are going to leave us here to starve fighting among ourselves.

>>19390072
A lot of this Antarctica stuff seems to be a major point. People have crossed it before NASA existed just to get famous
People have even gone on and circumnavigated the planet from pole to pole
Here's the thing though - there weren't LOOKING for anything, just to get across
The REAL secret is what would you find if you were really looking
THAT'S what's going on
THAT'S what you're not allowed to do
Something is there
Resources perhaps
Scientific discoveries that could be the key to a great many things

>>19390110
Exactly. Flat Earth conveniently omits the south pole and anything near it. Nobody's going to look for something they're convinced is simply absent from the topology of their world.

>They could set the tax rate to 0% and still keep these things going.

now you're just ignoring political science.

ask elon musk and richard branson how private space exploration is goin

>>19390130
>>19390110
>>19390103

>there is no God and there are other worlds.

and people wonder why humans shit on the ecosystem on a global scale.

wree in the kaliyuga so I understand your confusion, but were not going to space and everyone claiming we are are liars and frauds.

>>19390130
Money again!
Private exploration is doing terrible, because that is in the private sector.
NASA is a government agency. There is literally no limit to the funding they can receive, but it no longer has a purpose aside from being a distraction. If you want to complain about waste, look at welfare - about 48% of our budget is spent on entitlements.

The "things" I'm referring to are the black projects. They don't actually need money - just resources. Now that they have the resources they need, they can plunge society into total chaos, then escape with everything they've created so far.

>>19390136
yes I used the world "global"
fuck you, i mean worldwide.

>>19390136
Regarding faith in God - I consider myself agnostic for the time being. There is too much noise, and the desert trilogy has to be tossed aside as nothing more than cabal symbolism amidst a sea of lies.

As for these crazy ideas like hemisync, etc... I have experience as a contractor and I can tell you crap like this still exists, not in the literal sense of studying paranormal abilities, but in just making shit up to justify funding.

If it is possible to enter another level of existence, and be able to see into otherwise inaccessible areas of the world, we owe it to ourselves to invest all our energy into uncovering what is hidden. It is reasonable to assume that these cabals have already trained people to function as psychic countermeasures - "broadcasting" confusing and false ideas to keep everyone distracted while their benefactors plan their exodus.

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>>19390159
>I consider myself agnostic for the time being.

I understand this for philosophical reasons, but please dont deny god because some agnsty atheist argument from Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins.

>>19390193
A couple of rules I maintain regarding posts about higher intelligence:
God does not exclusively count in base-10.
God does not play dice
> QM is designed around emulating the behavior of coupled systems of sensors, not modeling the underlying phenomena
Earth is not alone
Assuming Earth is anything unique - that we're some kind of clockwork designed solely for entertainment - is a theory warped by a dense hubris. Humility reveals a much larger reality of such elegance and beauty we will spend an eternity learning about it.

Here's the real question; Why is this suddenly having a very vocal following come out of nowhere to thrust it into public view?
Like interracial cuckoldry has had a book periord in the last few years, (Seriously, when did anyone hear about cucking 8-9 years ago?)
The public are such fucking retards

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>>19390123
Not at all, see>>19388437

>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south

pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

>>19384706
It's funny how people use this image to disprove round earth but it was really just taken from a satellite closer to earth.

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>>19390136

>but were not going to space and everyone claiming we are are liars and frauds

Beyond the firmament are the Aetheric waters of Heaven. God is actually an aquatic being, as exemplified by the god Poseidon. Another example are the twin gods Fuxi and Nuwa, and yet another are the serpent and leviathan from the Bible.

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>>19390492

Pic related is Fuxi and Nuwa;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuxi
>Hua Hsu gave birth to a twin brother and sister, Fuxi and Nüwa. Fuxi and Nüwa are said to be creatures that have faces of human and bodies of snakes

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>>19390531

Also Dagon;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon
>A long-standing association with the word for "fish" dâg, perhaps going back to the Iron Age, has led to an interpretation as a "fish-god", and the association of "merman" motifs in Assyrian art (such as the "Dagon" relief found by Austen Henry Layard in the 1840s). The god's name was, however, more likely derived from a word for "grain", suggesting that he was in origin associated with fertility and agriculture

A race of aquatic Heaven-men exists, and when they come down to live on Earth they find floating barges most comfortable;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenochtitlan
>When we saw so many cities and villages built in the water and other great towns on dry land we were amazed and said that it was like the enchantments (...) on account of the great towers and cues and buildings rising from the water, and all built of masonry

At one point entire floating cities existed across the planet.

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>>19390572

There also exist direct accounts of flying objects whose pilots behave towards us as if they were in water;

>http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/09/anchors-aweigh-sky-ships-and-storm-wizards/
>There happened in the borough of Cloera, one Sunday, while the people were at Mass, a marvel.
>In this town is a church dedicated to St. Kinarus. It befell that an anchor was dropped from the sky, with a rope attached to it, and one of the flukes caught in the arch above the church door.
>The people rushed out of the church and saw in the sky a ship with men on board, floating before the anchor cable, and they saw a man leap overboard and jump down to the anchor, as if to release it.
>He looked as if he were swimming in water. The folk rushed up and tried to seize him; but the Bishop forbade the people to hold the man, for it might kill him, he said.
>The man was freed, and hurried up to the ship, where the crew cut the rope and the ship sailed out of sight.
>But the anchor is in the church, and has been there ever since, as a testimony.

Stories of attractive women coming down to Earth in hollow objects date back to at least the early 19th century;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune
>Utsuro-bune (うつろ舟 'hollow ship'), also Utsuro-fune and Urobune, refers to an unknown object which allegedly washed ashore in 1803 in Hitachi province on the eastern coast of Japan
>According to legend, an attractive young woman arrived on a local beach aboard the "hollow ship". Fishermen brought her inland to investigate further, but the woman was unable to communicate in Japanese. The fishermen then returned her and her vessel to the sea, where it drifted away

The thing is, the Waters of Earth lead to the Waters of Heaven. You can get to Heaven with a literal submarine.

>>19384706
Its an infinite flat plane.
Watch this video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s

Then ask yourself the following question,
If there was a lot more land, if there were a lot more resources, a lot more than we could ever spend or own, would they tell you about it?
Or would they try to close you into a limited land/system, to be able to control you, by saying all of it is limited?
On top of that to rob you, of purpose, of the idea of exploration, and of wonder of how thing really work by giving you a faulty paradigm?

Infinite Flat Plane means freedom.
A globe earth in space means limited freedom, and control by those who own the lands and resources.

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>>19390610

These women are known to rape people;

>http://theozfiles.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/peter-khoury-and-hair-of-alien-20-years.html?m=1
>The July 1992 incident had yielded a remarkable piece of evidence - a hair sample apparently from a blonde "nordic" entity.
>I was able to work with a biochemistry team which would provide the world's first DNA analysis of a biological sample implicated in an alien abduction experience.
>The team wanted to see if the sample provided forensic DNA evidence that might support the extraordinary story.
>It did far more than that
>At about 7 am, having returned to his Sydney suburban home from a train station, after dropping off his wife, Khoury felt unwell and lay down on the bed to sleep.
>He awoke with a start sometime later, becoming aware of something alighting on the bed.
>He was shocked to see two strange women kneeling on the end of his bed.
>Both were naked. One appeared Nordic and the other Asian
>Aspects of their appearance were quite odd. The Nordic female had a very elongated face and a sharply point chin.
>Her eyes appeared to be blue and 2 to 3 times larger than normal.
>She had very fine wispy blonde hair that seemed to be oddly blown up.
>Her skin colour was quite light.
>The dark brown skinned Asian looking woman seemed to have almost completely black eyes.
>Her hair was black and set in a firm page-boy style

>>19384706
dont need to, this is correct. :)

>>19387404
anon, anyone who believes the earth is flat IS retarded, so asking that is just nonsensical.

>>19390712
You should watch this post then
>>19390661
Open your eyes.

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>>19390693

Grays are how anime characters appear to hysterical people on drugs. Yet also, a long face suggests, perhaps, that this woman is a neanderthal holdover - perhaps a human-neanderthal hybrid with more neanderthal DNA than most modern humans.

How many combinations of human and neanderthal were there? Europeans and Asians both have neanderthal alleles, but Europeans have the neanderthal BNC2 allele that causes light pigmentation, while Asians don't.

What if secret, hidden races of humans dwell beyond the firmament, in the direct light of god? These races would seem to live beneath our Earth;

>http://deoxy.org/timemind.htm
>First of all (and why, I don't know) you have the impression that you are underground - far underground
>You seem to have a very large head, and a very small body, and very short limbs. And, you know, I dunno what that's about...

The Shaman and Monks he gave DMT said about the beings;

>I gave it to Tibetans, they said "this is the lesser lights, the lesser lights of the Bardo.
>You cannot go further into the Bardo and return.
>This takes you as far as you can go."
>When I gave it to shamans in the Amazon, they said "It's strong - but this is, these are the ancestors.
>These are the spirits that we work with. These are ancestor souls. We know this place