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What can you guys tell me about the Demiurge?

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What can you guys tell me about the Demiurge?
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>>19382357
I think he gets a bad rap. Sure he built this material prison but it seems to be more out of ignorance if anything. He thought was the only thing in creation and he then attempted to create and followed the template of the real creator but he couldn't do it perfect.

Poor guy, I bet the logos gives him a a lot of shit.
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He is called Yaldabaoth, Samael or Saklas.

The Blind, Ignorant and Jealous god.

He is known as the Chief Archon, the First Ruler.

But I like to call him the Gloomy Ruler, the First Cuck and the Blind Worm.
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>>19382381
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>>19382357

a word I have just recently seen. no clue either (in a Ghost BC video - pinnacle to the Pit)

what's up with Demiurge? (or who is)
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The Demiurge is described in gnostic texts as having a Lions head and a Serpents body.

This is called the Leontocephaline.

It is a representation of the Serpent Archon.
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His claim to be the creator and only God was a sin against all.

The Aeon Sophia rebuked him.

He is only an Archon, it means a Lord or Ruler. One of the Maters or Authorities over our present darkness.
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It's like, half an urge.
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>>19382552
This is a good shitpost
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>>19382381
kek
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His wife Lilith was the first Succubus.

This is why we call him the First Cuck because he tried to pair Lilith with Adam to make offspring.
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>>19382387
>the murderer is colored

lol
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>>19382357
(Just read about this, so sorry if I get this wrong)
According to Gnostic theology, an unknowable Godhead known as Monad sort of emanated into different alter egos called Aeons. Each Aeon is a slightly distorted, less accurate reflection of Monad. The final of the Aeons, Sophia of Wisdom, forsake Monad by trying to become independent of Him. This led to the creation of matter and the Demiurge, who in turn creates the material world.
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>>19382393
>It is a representation of the Serpent Archon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV8smP-8FE0
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Jealous of the beauty of Geradamas, who was harmonious and perfected in all his parts, Barbelon
looked in upon herself and sought her own image in the luminous mirror with the intention to create
one like herself who would rival Geradamas in beauty. She conceived this thought in secret, lacking the
consent of her maleness. The Father did not approve her plan. Her wish expanded with the power of
the light and became a form in the dryness of her womb. A mass issued froth that was not in her image.
She looked upon it in horror. The mass writhed and changed into a serpent with the head of a lion. Its
eyes were bright stars that flashed lightning and showered glowing sparks.
In shame Barbelon cast from her breast the child of her imprudent desire. So that no immortal would
look upon its incompleteness she bore it far from the knowledge of the Deathless Ones, even out of the
Place of Aeons, and made for it a throne and concealed it within a radiant cloud so none but she could
find it. The child waxed strong by the power he had received from his mother. He is named Samael, but
some call him Altabaoth, and he was the first of the Archons.
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>>19382578
Go back to >>>/r/the_donald you racist piece of shit.
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Samael longed for the brightness of Shekhina shinning forth from the face of his mother. The same light
glowed within him but lay concealed beneath the veil of his ignorance. When he came to his maturity
desire moved in his nether parts. He lusted but knew not the shape of his lust. He wandered with
loneliness through the empty kingdom of his own creation.
Turning it upon himself he sought his reflection in the fiery furnace of his heart and twisted it as the
potter twists his clay into a semblance of the shinning form of Barbelon. He fashioned a consort like to
his mother in all her liniments that issued forth from his left side. Her name is Lilith, she who walks in
beauty clothes with the shadows of the Moon.
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The consort was imperfect because the maker was incomplete. In outward shape the beauty of Lilith
was like that of the First Mother, but inwardly she was empty and unfulfilled. A hollowness gaped under
her left rib, the same hollow that was in the side of Samael. She was ignorant of her weakness and
believed herself to be the Queen of All Creation, for this is what Samael told her as he went with her up
and down the land and showed to her his kingdom.

Her emptiness engendered lust and the need to be filled, and the same lust kindled in Samael when he
looked upon her nakedness. She embraced the first Archon and was transformed into a serpent even as
he was a serpent. Hear and learn wisdom. Samael is called the Slant Serpent and Lilith the Convolute
Serpent, because he falls upon her from the heavens as a lightning stroke but she rises slowly from the
earth to receive him as a clinging vine.
Where their loins met arose a mighty churning and swirling of the firmament like unto the revolving of a
vast millstone. Out of the vortex of this turning chaotic mass sprang forth a Dragon without end or
beginning. Its scales are as drops of blood, its breath fiery. The eyes of the beast are shut up into slits
after the way of serpents that dwell in the depths of the Abyss. Nor does it see the Sun by day nor the
Moon by night.
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Demiurge was probably first mentioned in Plato's dialogues (centuries before Christianity and Gnosticism) as a perfect being manipulating perfect ideal forms to create imperfect reality. After Christianity, the Gnostics inverted Abrahamism, calling it's devil-type 'God' an evil demiurge, and the devil/serpent in Eden myth the true hero of the story, as I guess people already explained the second part above... but it would have been good to point out the two opposite types of demiurges in the original question. Maybe I (or others) will elaborate on the Platonic one, or anything unaswered about the Gnostic one, if more details are needed
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Samael savoured the splendor of his works and grew drunk on the magnificence of his creations. To the
heights of Heaven and the depth of the Abyss he looked upon his own domain. All that fell into his
survey was his to make or mar. He saw no other worlds. He did not know of the cloud of light created
by Barbelon to conceal him from her holy consort Autogene. He remained ignorant of the perfect Spirit
and its everflowing fountain of light water.
In his madness Samael cried out, “I am the only God, there is no other God beside me.” Thus did he
blaspheme against the glory of the Blessed One, yet knew nothing of the other place from which he had
come.
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>>19382565
are the brotherhoods real?
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>>19383051
>The mass writhed and changed into a serpent with the head of a lion
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The Gnostics were confused because creation and therefore God Himself is wicked. However, God's nature is pure.
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>>19383070

Mithraism is a brotherhood of people who want to rebel from the Archons.

In a Mithraeum you will find the Leontocephaline. And also the Tauroctony.

The Tauroctony is an image of Mithra slaughtering a Bull. The Bull is a Symbol of an Archon.

Mithra wears the Liberty Cap.
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>>19383075
Gnostics are not confused.

We know the Demiurge is not God.

We know there is a higher Unknowable God.
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>>19382357
HAM
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Hear and be wise. The God of the sons of Adam is not the highest monarch of the heavenly zones.
Above him swells one so much greater that his greatness cannot be measured. Even the name of God
defiles him, for he is not a god but a singleness of being without discontinuity. He shines with a pure
light no eye can see and speaks in thunder no ear can hear. There is none existing prior to him to limit
his duration. He is ineffable and perfect, standing alone complete unto himself.
Neither male nor female, neither large nor small, neither breath nor flesh, the mind of man can never
question his qualities for he is unknowable. He endures outside of time and encompasses duration. He
is the Father or Aeons. He rules before and above all existence. He gives knowledge but is not Wisdom.
He gives mercy but is not Love. The name of him is forever unspeakable, for in it are all names and
moments in the existence of things, and if ever it were spoken aloud the universe would unravel like the
hem of a garment and come to an end.
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Gnosticism is true because you see, we live in a world of darkness, you see, this is one of the terrible beasts that will fuck up your life the moment you set foot in reality.

It couldn't be that there's a demonic overlord and that's why there's darkness in the world, no sir, it has to be a dark creator no less.
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Lilith wandered into the mountains beating her breast and gnashing her teeth because the emptiness
inside her remained unfilled. She came even to the highest boundary of the kingdom of Samael. While
she stood looking afar, the clouds that obscure the edges of the firmament rolled away and revealed the
underside of the waters that encircle the earth. Light illuminated the waters and made them clear. The
roots of the mountains trembled. Thunder shook the peaks.
For the fulfillment of his own design the Mother‐Father of all caused the image of Geradamas to shine
through the bottom of the waters. His face was a human face, and his form a human form. A voice of
triumph rang down from the highest Aeons, “Behold the work that is Man.” Lilith gazed in rapture at his
heavenly image, wondering much at the harmony of his parts and the grace of his proportions. Lust
moved within her loins. She determined to fashion a copy of Man and use it for her consort. This was in
keeping with the plan of the Perfect Spirit.
She came down from the mountains and gathered together rotting leaves and mud and slime, the
mingled it with other corruptions and molded it into the pattern seen in the Waters of Heaven. With
infinite care she rounded its limbs and painted its countenance. Into its moth she put ivory. Into the eye
sockets she set pearls. Seaweed she draped over its bold crown, and bits of shells she pressed into the
ends of its fingers and toes. Between its thighs she fitted the leg bone of a goat.
She stretched herself upon the image and pressed it into her breasts and set her lips over its mouth. No
warmth arose to sustain her lust. The image of Man lay cold and still. She lacked the divine spark to
give it life. She wept in frustration and watered it with tears.
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>>19383134

Lilith sought Samael in his wrath and laid her hand upon his check to still him. She smiled a smile of love
to placate him, and said, “My lord, come and see the wondrous shape the waves of the sea have thrown
up onto the shore.”
He went with her and marveled at the beauty of the image lying in the sand, declaring “Verily, it is a
work of my Mother, who is in Heaven.” For he knew no other Aeon but Barbelon.
“Only think what a splendid servant it would make if you could quicken it,” Lilith told him. “If it holds
the heavenly power of your Mother, its face will be a light to set between us.” She spoke the words
Armozel had placed in her mind but thought they were her own words. Samael approved her words.
“Let us call him Adam,” he said, “That his name may be a light and a power between us.”
Samael desired to call forth the spark of Barbelon from the mute clay to serve him. He did not know
that it already burned within his own breast. To display his power before Lilith and the watching hosts
of angels he transformed his shape into the shape of a man and may upon the pattern of earth. His feet,
touched its feet, and his shins pressed its shins. His thighs touched its thighs, and his belly was on its
belly. His hands held its hands, and his shoulders spanned its shoulders. From toe to crown he
measures its measure. The face of Samael kissed the face of earth, and the breath of the Serpent slid
between the lips of clay.
In the moment of his kiss the spark of light fled from Samael and entered the Earthly Man. This was the
intent of the Aeon of Aeons. He acted to restore the power of the light to the Holy Mother, Barbelon.
The limbs of earth became flesh and warmed with the warmth of the Sun. The man breathed a breath
and opened wondering eyes. He sat upright. His face was luminous.
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>>19383137
When Samael looked upon Adam he knew he had been deceived. The beauty of the man was more
perfect than his own beauty. The man was whole, whereas he was incomplete. The rage of the first
Archon flew out of his eyes in fiery bolts that blasted the rocks and made the sea boil.
He cried out to the assembled hosts of angels, “I am a jealous God, and there is no other God beside
me.” At this the angels wondered, and spoke between themselves, saying, “If there is no other God,
then of whom shall this God be jealous?”
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This book i am quoting from was once in the Library of Alexandria.

It was also in John Dee's library and it was saved from the Fire there.
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>>19384342
Great contributions so far, I'm really enjoying the story. It feels very sympathetic towards Lillith and Samael. Are the Enochian keys worth researching? Also what is the name of the book you're copying passes from?
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>>19382381
Wait what is the Logos?? I've only heard one person use that term before
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>>19384672

The Logos is the Gnostic God. Called the Monad, the One or the All. The Unknowable God.
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>>19384657

Its from the Gnostic Grimore section of the Liber Lilith.
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>>19383082
He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.
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>>19384657
>It feels very sympathetic towards Lillith and Samael

When you read the rest of it it gets extremely dark and evil.

Its full of magic to evoke the Archons.

We are talking about deep levels of Darkness. Necrophilia and Murder.

Yes its Sympathetic to Lilith and Samael. Because they want something from you.
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>>19382578
arent most of them?
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>>19384657
You can sympathize, but do not delude yourself for a moment into thinking that they are the "good" ones
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>>19382381
Valentinian, eh?
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