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What is the universe inside of?

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What is the universe inside of?
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the universe is everything, so everything by definition cannot be contained within anything.
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>>19359524
But surely there exists something which the universe is suspended in?
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>>19359531

>But surely there exists something which the universe is suspended in?

Only if your conception of the 'universe' is more like a 'plane' of spatial existence, like midgard, or heaven, or the pure land.

For example, if our plane of existence, which you define as "universe" is a simulation, or part of a 'multiverse' : Then there are levels and bounds to the suspension of our particular 'universe' within a greater reality.

But, as the universe can be defined as 'everything', the universe that is simulated is in collective with the greater simulating reality as a singular 'everything', or the singular 'plane' is in collective with other multiverses. As the universe is everything, it contains everything.

There cannot be anything outside of everything by definition - so everything cannot be inside of anything, as there is nothing outside of everything.
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>>19359518
Basically, this universe is contained within one of the smallest particles of another universe.

And every single tiny quantum particle that THIS universe is made out of, contains a universe.
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it's in an endless void.

j/k space is fake
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>>19359518
what's inside of the universe?
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>>19359518
A sea of other universes probably
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>>19359572
planets, stars, etc
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>>19359518
chaos

or a multiversal bubble, but even that one is either inside another bubble or chaos

so chaos is the only true answer
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>>19359640
I posit that it is order beyond our human comprehension. Which, of course, would seem like chaos to many.

Do not fear the unknown
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>>19359518
That's a flawed question.
Since the universe is everything that exists.
Anything outside or external of that does not exists.
So the whole notion of there being something external also does not exist. The universe does not have an inside, nor and outside. Because the universe is the absolute totality of everything.

>>19359563
>>19359640
You are just moving the goalpost.
Where is mind?
in the brain.
Where is the brain?
in the body.
where is the body?
on the earth.
where is the earth?
in solar system.
where is the solar system?
in the universe.
where is the universe?
The universe has no location, because there are no reference points beyond the universe.
Thus the universe has the property of being location less
>>19359567
There is not even a void. Even an empty void does not exist outside of the universe, only absolute non-existence, where even the concept of non-existence does not exist.
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>>19359629
nuh uh
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>>19359524
>>19359679
Wrong, there exists an edge to the observable universe.

Truth is probably closer to
>>19359563
>>19359625
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>>19359691
Yup.

Existence is holographic/fractal by design.

Endless in both directions.

As above, so below. As below, so above.
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Universe is part of another Universe that another universe have alot of Universes. And another Universe is part of another another Universe.

Teory of multi-verse is truth.
All Universes are created similar to fractals (animated picrel gif).

At beggining all of it, there is God.
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>>19359712
Gotta love that classic mandelbrot

:D
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Duct tape and bailing wire
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>>19359531
Existence
Time
Two things it's suspended in
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>>19359518
Turtles all the way down.
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>>19359518
Inside? Nigga the universe is outside.

>>19359640
What is chaos inside of?
Understand that your answer to this is exactly what should be your answer to "What is the universe inside of?"

>>19359691
>observable universe
Yes, there is a limit to how far we can see. There is no data that suggests the universe stops at this limit.

>another universe
Nonsensical with certain definitions of universe.

If you take universe to mean a certain instance of spacetime with a certain set of physical laws, then sure there can be other universes and then we create the term Multiverse for what used to be the conception of universe. But if you take the classical definition of "the set of all past/present/future existence," then positing different instances of spacetime or alternate realities or some other way to describe it would all still be included in the word "universe." You can't have another "collection of all existence" - or more specifically "another" universe would be the exact same thing because it would again include everything.
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nothing, the universe was designed after earth.

god isnt a retard and he could plan for the future

what the fuck do you want to be in? a flat earth with invisible walls that spark you when you touch them?

do you want a roof floating overhead like truman show that we would always try and pierce?

do you expect the universe to end at the solar system? where we could send rockets to crash into gods invisible wall?

what about if the universe ended at the sun? then we would build a space colony and crash into gods wall, which would cause mental issues and chaos for everyone on earth

would you rather the universe ended one light year away? then we would build a ship that would have people living on it for thousands of years and eventually crash into gods wall, the news of discovering gods wall would cause mental issues and chaos for everyone on earth

none of these invisible walls would work. we have estimated the distance to nearest land from earth and it is too far for us to attempt, so we stay sane on earth and live out our lives

god made the universe which is just a dust cloud where he can safely host billions of humans where they will never try escape and will live same happy lives, if he put a wall anywhere it would reveal himself and our human brains couldnt handle it

if you go in a straight line in space you will eventually come back to where you started, this is one of the first thing god teaches us on earth.
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>>19359518
consider for a moment...
universe is infinite in 3d
stars galaxies, etc, are inside space
universe is comprised of galaxies ect. is inside space
universe is inside space
or see related pic, think outside the box
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>>19359518
me, you, us, god

but i'm not sure if "inside" is the right concept
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>>19359691
>observable universe.
There is a huge difference between observable universe and universe as the totality of existence.

>>19360054
this
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>>19359518
itself
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>>19359518
thought and reason.
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>>19359518
Your self
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yo mamma
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>>19359518
Asking what's outside the universe is like asking what's north of the north pole. It is a nonsensical question.
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>>19359518
The third dimension
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Gnostics call it the Pleroma, its means the Fullness.

What we know of the Universe is only a small portion of it.

The place we are in is a realm of shadow and fog that is lorded over by the Gloomy Ruler.
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The event horizon of a black hole.

We are compressing at a rate that creates the illusion that the outermost reaches are expanding faster than the speed of light. It's not that the are moving; it's simply that we cannot escape and it becomes increasingly impossible.

Furthermore, we are unable to recognize this fact because our observable Universe is suffering the same spacetime dialations we are experiencing, erasing any potential objective frame of reference.
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>>19359518
It's a rhetorical question... I remember this kid in school kept insisting that "God had a daddy." It made me so mad b/c I thought that he was simply an idiot (and perhaps he was...), but looking back on it the statement is weirdly profound.
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>>19359518
The universe is all there is, but the universe is nothing at the same time, so nothing is everything and everything is nothing but nothing is something while everything is nothing, there is no answer
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>>19359518
a strand of DNA like they visually implied on an episode of cosmos: a spacetime odyssey for like 3 seconds
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>>19359679
Where is the universe?
In the mind
Repeat
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>>19359518
We don't know stop asking
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>>19359518
God's house; God is all that is, including all the objects in God's house, and also including God's house. A house is an object with rooms, and rooms are objects with doors. Doors connect rooms to other rooms within the same house. The universe is a room within God's house.

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