ironic meme culture is planted on purpose

>>19358190
They don't have to make them infantile and docil.

Just keep them that way.

>>19358205
You are the definition of infantile.

Exactly.

>>19358190
You're right about the effects but wrong about the source. The cuckery comes from something else.

here are some good examples of this psyop works:

kekistan flag > identifying as a real nazi or a racist
kek > identifying with a real religion
meme magic = believing that posting online changes the world
happenings > taking action and changing things yourself
digits = relying on luck instead of action
natsoc > discussing race realism in public
youtube e-celebs > getting your own opinion out and being vocal
leftypol > believing there is an internet enemy instead of a real enemy
clickbait = engaging in fruitless discussing
triggering > confronting and debating

>>19358257
what is the source? please, speak freely

>>19358314
We have no clue besides the stuff we start ourselves.

>>19358314
It's not restricted to /pol/, it's an internet-wide campaign to restore armchair philosophy, armchair skepticism, and armchair activism. It's a way to disempower the entire populace, because if masses of people got their priorities straight, the world would change overnight.

What you have to ask yourself is who benefits from the world not changing overnight. Who truly benefits?

,

>>19358336

Russia is at the core of it all, it started with comic books n the 1920s and kept going from there with the space race and sci fi aliens

>>19358190
Hi there,

I am indeed a social scientist, and I have worked for than a decade in a European intelligence service.

You are not far off, considering how some operations in fact are, but I doubt this is the case here. Anyway, interesting read.

>>19358351
No, think deeper. WHY does Russia act this way?

In what way might they be convinced that they benefit from this? In what historical context do they find themselves our enemies?

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>>19358190
While Kekistan is gay and cringey they go out and try to change things politically so if that was the government's idea it certainly isn't working. The truth of the matter is that it's a bunch of underaged gaywads spamming that Kekistan/ GET stuff.

>>19358336
the military industrial complex, billion dollar fraud industries (space tourism,automation,court system). the establishment (politicians,lobbys,none profits). globalists (multiculturalism, outsourcing)

>>19358365

it started with the soviet union, keep people distracted and corrupt western youths minds with bullshit and stupidity

go look at conspiracy, UFO and alt media channels on youtube and see what channels they follow and what channels the channels they follow are following, notice any repeating channels

its all a giant netwirk or disinformation, Russia has a huge propaganda and disinfo machine manned all around the world in various languages by useful idiots and people mascarading as useful idiots so the real useful idiots have someone to identify with and therefore take more seriously

>>19358380
While it's true the Alt-right are useful idiots to Putin and Russia I doubt Russia itself is instructing and pushing this. I think it's just them taking an advantage of a candidate that the Alt-right liked.

>>19358380
according to the former kgb agent it is, but how come no one ever spills the beans? this network you are proposing is gigantic

>>19358190
What are you talking about memes literally changed reality. Trump is one big walking meme. People don't remember liberal idiots who go out to "protest" but they always remember a good meme.

>>19358404
its reality on a computer screen, that's my point

>>19358394
>>19358399

well here is an opinion of mine that pol would laugh off

I dont Think Putin is as in control of Russia as we think he is. Influential yes, powerful yes, but in control? I think he is mediating some bad and people, a malevolent dictator keeping the lid on far worse things, and its those elements that are really behind this shit and he has to appease them quite often

of course he could probably not give a shit about the rest of the world, but true eurasionists and ideologues beyond just Dugin and the East Orthodox Church may be driving a lot. organized crime in Central Asia, and probably Parts of India, Vietnam and Thailand I would guess

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>>19358190

Take a few more steps backwards and apply the same logic to "left" and "right" politics.

>>19358448
i think its okay to have quantitative terms for belief and morality, after all - most people are archtype of some sort

>>19358448
look here >>19358261

See this, OP: >>19358190

COINTELPRO:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread687968/pg1

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>>19358190
>>19358244

>people started to unironically believe in kek and meme magic like there is meaning behind numbers

Kek is a god you fool - but most of the "Kekistan" people don't understand the depth of what they're dealing with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hfZLTjTSs

>>19358375
I accompanied some people in the Trump march in Texas a few weeks ago
My back nearly snapped from the cringe
These people thought they were going to end up fighting or some shit
They were basically just cosplaying at a social event lmao where the speakers were all giving half-assed personal stories and opinions

cunts tried to recruit me lmao

>>19358380
again that bad russia :(

Kekistan was Sargon's attempt to take Kek away from the real racists, because he's a butthurt faggot.

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>>19358190

So..meme magic (Believing that online posting changes the world) is Bullshit and a psy op, and yet the government is, according to you...going on pol and shitposting to do a 'psy-op', to change the way autists on pol behave...which is the government posting things on the internet with the belief that it is going to change the world...which is the government using meme magick...which isn't real, but just changing the label to 'psy-op'.

Like just stop and literally think about it. Either meme magick isn't real (shitposting does not effect reality), in which case a 'psy-op' would have no effect so the government wouldn't do it, or it is (shitposting can effect reality), in which case why would the government give those autists on pol access to the most powerful persuasive tools in existence?

Besides, digits isn't a choice between action and luck, think of it as a signal you get to help decide if the action you take or intend to take is going to be lucky.

I'm not saying the government isn't benefiting from the uh...highly polarized environment that has happened with Trump, I just don't buy that they're the source of it, Trump is just the energy that has been building since this second wave of PC started and things like the tea party and Ron Paul happened. That energy never 'goes away', it just builds, and builds, until it breaks the fucking dam, and then the cycle repeats.

not all of those kekfags are like that, i've had some decent conversations with a few who just seem to think it's funny but are well aware of a lot of things

everyone is kept docile right now because people are addicted to their phones, and there's too much surveillance for people to really have meaningful discussions and get others behind a proper cause safely

this pacifies everyone and kekfags try to take things out in the ways they do because it's legal and many of them have issues with breaking laws even when those laws come from a corrupt government that's run by people who don't play by the same rules that are enforced

so they "fight" in ways that keep them safe which is why they're ineffectual

that being said even people who are going out into the streets right now are largely ineffectual because they're all blaming each other for conditions a small group of people in power have created that citizens have no real power over, and every target is an emotional one over a strategic one

>>19359732

it wouldn't exactly be magic which is what op means i think

not in the actual sense of it, just manipulation

not to say they're causing it on /pol/, but the government has been creating a polarized environment for a very long time to maintain control

that's just what governments do, divide and conquer, people who are divided can't unite and rebel

voting in general is a tool for that kind of thing, the same background agenda gets played out no matter who wins and issues people are passionate about that are important but lesser (in comparison to large scale wars, surveillance, militarization of the pollice etc) are the things that change to rile people up

it goes back. a very long time because that tactic is how small groups of people control larger ones

you don't think it's just jails and laws that keep people passive do you?

>>19359732
im not blaming the movement and what it has done already, i just find it weird that alot of disenfranchised people would behave this way. in psychology you either give up and become passive or you get angry and start taking acting, this is not it.

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>>19359732
>>19359744

meme magic is a phenomenon experienced by very self centered people who are unaware of how their actions impact the world

no shit if you spam shit everywhere and shout out the window all day long people are going to notice

no shit there are relevent people and players in the world on pol contributing and watching to threads, posing as lowly anons

no shit there are "happenings" everyday, because thats how the world is, technology has only made the news of these events easier to share

meme magic = "chaos magik" = the butterfly effect on an atomic/sub atomic level = chaos particle theory

everyone and everything is always doing it

>>19359732
Digits increase "luck", ie, in a divinatory sense, it redoubles belief, which increases the potential for magic, but there is obviously more to it then that.

>>19360030
butterfly effect is just hipster science. just like multidimentions and time travel. just because you can mathematically prove something does not automatically validate it. remember that math is just a way to model things that are happening or might possibly happen.
anyone indulging in conspiracies should know a little bit of science

>>19360030
Read this post, people.

It begins to make sense why others push kekism, flat earth debates, racist threads, and other distractions that seem so out of place on such a readily curious board.

They use Polarity to their advantage. What they do not understand is that Polarity literally states the reaction caused by their influence will ultimately fade back to the neutral state it began in.

People are "waking up" more and more each day, and it's because these social constructs are beginning to crumble with a new energy that is on the rise.

>>19360030

chaos magic isn't what's going on though, learn about it and you'll see it isn't memes and digits

important players can come from "lowly anons" it all depends on the viewpoints they're expressing, who they inspire and the way it all comes together in the end

people do gain power in all manner of ways and there's no single way to do it especially with technology

as for happenings, yes things happen every day, however there is something big coming because the climate has changed

and by that i mean there's a lot going on and people are more aware of it, they see rtheir chains they see the controls placed upon them and see what does and doesn't matter

things are different now because of technology, and it's technology that's opened people's eyes to a lot

control works best when people are unaware of the ways in which they're controlled, but that s not the way things actually work

like i said the climate has changed, but it's ripe for more than one direction currently, both civil war and revolution are possibilities right now

the only thing that hasn't been determined is whether or not people will see their common enemy and unite in spite of subjective ideologies (that can't exist anyway, anyone being controlled can't achieve an ideology, they are always ultimately subject to the whims of their masters) or fight each other over divide and conquer tactics set in place by the government and subjective morals that have been implemented over time

people who go on and on about kek are largely controlled by the idea that the system in place can stay in place, but work for them if they can inspire people; the same as sjws who try to work within a corrupt framework that they think they have control over if they're loud enough

reality says otherwise though

there's no power in mindless bickering, and it's all a loss of power to those in control

kekfags think they have more power than they do, and most play into the system by abiding by their laws and rules

X is plagued by disinformation agents

>>19358190
Kys

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>>19358257
>>19358336
>>19358351
>>19358365
>>19358380

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Kekistan was the skeptics fags psyop I know that for sure

>>19358703
We call Gods what we can't fathom.

Kek holds no misteries from us.

>>19361199
skeptic fags can have that shit, its the cringeist shit on the planet.
Like you look like a total dip shit running around squealing about how IM A KEKISTANI WARRIOR

>>19361214
yeah, is too much and fucked up kek for me.

>>19360030
Good post.

>>19361677
But not completely honest.

>>19361683
Better than >muh meme magic for sure.

>want to believe its everyone else causing this retardation instead of the actual dumbasses that made this shit up for the lulz

you wont figure anything out if you take these losers seriously, let alone not hold them responsible for acting retarded

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>>19358190
>give the crying child a yellow leaf and tell him it's gold
Can you smell what the Reich is cooking?

>>19362008
i get it, but memes are something to be enjoyed of. its like a posting an image that make you laugh and that's it. when people use irony to define themselves, this is where it gets problematic

>>19358190
I wholeheartedly agree with you OP, I've been saying the same thing since the Summer of last year.
>My personal take
Sometime around when the US election was coming into full swing, it was realized that memes can be means of cheap or free propaganda that spreads like wildfire. Reddit is more notable, but on 4chan anyone can break through (no karma) so plants and shills are much more effective, given they match the hive mind.
Servers on 4chan began to fail in the Spring and then the site was bought out by "Japanese Moot". Soon after that all their financial issues vanished and also at the same time is when the Cult Of Kek began to emerge. I feel it's one in the same.
>Have 10 bots who are superivsed by a user with a powerful proxy.
>Have them say a message you want to convey to the masses
>Time them to the speed of posts per minute.
>Set them to press "post" at times of trips and quads
>One of them hits it
>Repeat
>Claim it's divine word via confirmation bias
>Finally, copycats who believe the planted message spread the idea for free

It's very likely that many different agencies from across the globe have dumped some pennies into monitoring and influencing the hivemind here. Groups like CTR, JIDF and Media Matters have been caught red handed, but just imagine how many haven't.

>>19358190
without reading what you wrote, just looking at the title I totally agree, memes are like programs that enter our consciousness and project us down some planned timeline. Breaking the conditioning of such madness is no easy task, the system is so embedded into our thoughts because our minds were constructed by (((them))). That even the most reddest pilled person you see on youtube or what ever is completely mind controlled by little self regulating programs upon programs.

Memes are almost predictable now, its like the obvious fucking gag that gets over fucking hyped then transmitted to potential billions of people all connected to what we call the net.

Honestly there is very little we can do to stop this from happening, this process is what happened in the past, at least the real past before past became simulated...

>>19358190
>>19362404
and I did just read what you said, and I still agree totally, my point connects perfectly once you put things into perspective.

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>>19362404
>Honestly there is very little we can do to stop this from happening
I have been saying this for years and I still stand by it.
There is nothing you can do "about" it.
Just as you say. You are right.

Don't try to do something "against" it because by this you acknowledge the problem. Then one thing will lead to another.

Deprive the host of the vital forces, replace them with the artificial, make him dependant and you are in control.

A truly intelligent enemy never shows his face until the very last moment.

>>19362486
but it is insane isn't it?

I mean we literally are alive and conscious of this terrible truth, however we can learn to embrace it and then suffering stops.

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>>19362404
>at least the real past before past became simulated...

>mfw the ones with consciousness who experience this died and went to Hell

I still don't know what happened. Life became dark and weird. Almost convinced that the theory that the internet is Satanic is true, and it was/is convincing us to keep our eyes glued to it for potential "happenings", porn, ordering things, and literally everything else.

In a way, it's like the literal definition of staring into Hell.

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>>19362501

Just another thought. Self-reply

If you believe the Bible is true, God made the Earth for us, yet everyone is becoming more and more focused on unreality and it's shaping reality.

The internet isn't the Earth.

>>19362501
>>mfw the ones with consciousness who experience this died and went to Hell

but you can escape dearest anon, you must fight this bullshit external influence that has such power over you. This is real and you can never escape truth, you're here to learn how to escape mortality, to reach the next level.

Take notice of those people called crazy, learn to filter bullshit from fact within the noise all around you.

>>19362510
you shit talk has zero effect over me, since I only read the first sentence of any post, you don't have any idea how intelligent I am...

I love god and accept Jesus Christ as my saviour.

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>>19362500
You say it's insanity because it is the flipside of ordinary perception.

In our present state is all of our past, and in our mind towards the future we build new means of living, means which are derived from the past.
Re-evaluate the past and the present changes.
In our mind it does.

In reality, everything always is.
But we do not see it, we are highly selective and all of our efforts show this fact.
As we are we cannot make an educated decision when the very act of making a decision could be the host of all our problems.
Can one make no decision without deciding not to make any decisions?

What if by all our past decisions we have somehow managed to trap ourselfes in a recursive action.
That all our political and religious acts are only an attempt to arive at the place we were before any politics and religion were a neccessity.

>>19362559
listen mr agent i agree with you totally, but there is a state far from the restrictions you state. A one that is most sacred, and you will never persuade me otherwise since I've seen it with my own eyes and have fully experienced it.

Love is the only conclusion I ever came too when ever I was mad, angry, fearful or guilt. You need to get off this board for a while and just walk outdoors and see god for what it is, but I can just tell you what god is.

God isn't a force or a projection, such things don't actually exist, god is that which is internal and that which is external, and both are of the same source, that which is observing. Mind is a manifestation of what is experienced from the internal and the external, mind effects both which are rather the same and vice versa.

A programmed pattern can be inserted into the mind because all it is it self is a program generated from data it is receiving from when it was initialised or instantiated . You are living in an illusionary (sp) reality.

Like I said there is a way out, don't every doubt that, accept him as your lord and savoir.

>>19362559

>That all our political and religious acts are only an attempt to arive at the place we were before any politics and religion were a neccessity.

Ever read any Giambattista Vico?

get this establishment shit off of /x/

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>>19362674
oy vey

hahah you can't stop it, it is the future you chose which is the past you accept to believe. Oh nom nom nom nom i love wanking especially when I get you people pissed.

heil heil heil

/x/ look deeply into the /pol/ you are lead to believe, aren't they not really just older versions of you?

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>>19362645
>and you will never persuade me otherwise since I've seen it with my own eyes
I have seen it too.
I have been there.
By certain efforts it has been shown to me.
And I have denied it saying "There is still something to be done".
And I have been given that opportunity.

I live life now with constant knowledge of my own death, to which I am obedient.
I talk about an energy which can be perceived only then when one is aware of death.
Death is what connects us to this world.

People have to understand in what way I talk about death.
To me it's not the same as to most other people.

>>19362665
I'm not not familiar with that no.

>>19362755
death is illusion, the thing you call death is nothing more than your greatest fear, and you do so by acknowledging it. Just listen to the words you are typing, they are still loaded with fear, fear of what? Fear of death of course, but there is no real death, there is simply experience, embrace the truth....

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>>19362775
>death is illusion

see
>People have to understand in what way I talk about death.
>To me it's not the same as to most other people.

>Just listen to the words you are typing, they are still loaded with fear
Quite peculiar because it seems that the words you read are loaded themselfes.

I'm not fearful of death.
Death is my greatest ally.

Illusion cannot be destroyed without creating further illusion.
You can see it for what it is. And that is the death of you, at the same time a birth of something else.

The Eternal Walk.

fuck this

>>19362817
>Illusion cannot be destroyed without creating further illusion.

I doubt that, because truth is truth, there does not exist a construct of truth for it can't be named or expressed.

I mostly agree with any other points if you had any....

>>19362834
define truthe

>>19362818
fuck what? I think you are over paraphrasing, you express defeat... Defeat of what? what are you fighting for? You have nothing to fight for my friend, nothing at all... You have everything, you can be anything if you choose, you have freewill isn't that enough?

>>19362839
experience both inner and outer are linked, the inner effect the outer and vice versa, you can literally think your self into illness.

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>>19362817
>And that is the death of you, at the same time a birth of something else.
>The Eternal Walk.

Sounds like an attempt to get people who could make great changes to become lazy. If death is an illusion and life is just experience, then why not coast along? I'm not buying that part.

Almost everyone I talk to outside of the internet (which isn't often) tells me that I could make great changes, which I always find strange. I've had very odd coincidences in my life, some of my own doing, which shows me how much of an impact I really have just from the internet, and I imagine what I could do outside of it in the public eye.

But this goes back to my "internet is Hell" theory. Even if it isn't, it might as well be. This isn't real life. It's the most depressing thing you can dedicate your known existence to. I'm on here, because if I'm not, I feel disconnected from the world... That's backwards!

It's always felt like a mission or test, but I'm not sure what the end goal is.

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The whole frog thing is a bit mad, isn't it?

>>19362839
ugh fuck you, the truth can't be defined within our minds, it is always there yet ignored, it has no name, it is no thing and it will become the focus point again someday.

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>then why not coast along
That is exactly the point.

Memento Mori - Remember Death
Not to just coast along but to utilize everything that has been given to you in this life for a noble goal.
And what goal could be more noble than to die having left nothing undone.

Instead many people run from death, unwilling to see that no matter how fast they run, every moment drags them towards it, and by that the whole thing becomes a drag.

Do not remain reactive, in defense of an illusion there is that you call yourself.
Realize that you are already dead and from this point, everything you do will go towards life.

People operate backwards is what I am saying. Some wires got crossed and the whole system looped itself into a safety mode.
The attempt to preserve life is to die like a dog.
It's like holding breath, you will inevitably lose it.

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>>19358365
Russia doesn't come up with this stuff. They look for fringe conspiracy theories and latch onto them in an attempt to gradually degrade the institutions they target. This is confirmed KGB strategy (watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4). Think about it:

- flat earth, moon landing conspiracies: degrade public faith in NASA, degrade the space program and technological innovation.
- climate change denialism: degrade public faith in environmental protections, degrade public health and natural resources.
- pizzagate: degrade public faith in culture and entertainment while fomenting skepticism of political institutions, degrade the economy and faith in political systems.
- Seth Rich, Sandy Hook, etc. - cause political chaos, degrade morale
- transgender bathroom controversy - distract from real political issues
... (the list goes on)

Russians have been controlling Western political rhetoric for quite some time. They mainly use 4chan and Facebook to accomplish this, sewing seeds of fear and anxiety over political wedge issues in the general public. Inevitably, people in the U.S. and other Western countries pick up on this and become obsessed with these controversial issues. They look for YouTube videos and blog posts and articles that help feed into this confirmation bias. Over time, the public is demoralized and nothing gets done. Very smart tactic.

Honestly, Russians are smart as all hell. As an American I admire them and their culture. Beautiful architecture, art, music, etc. But most of all, the ingenuity. Study your history. Russians were doctoring political opponents out of photographs a half a century before Photoshop was initially released. Follow the money. The neocons you see in the U.S. government have financial ties to Russia. They want to start an artificial cold war to make more money. Russia puts on the front of being this weak, oil-dependent state. Really, they're responsible for NK and China.

It's not memetics. It's propaganda.

>>19362985

Xinjiang, Mongolia and thailand

know anything about them

>>19362985
Btw, before anyone jumps on my throat: I'm not saying there's not a nugget of truth to certain conspiracy theories I listed (some of them, not all). Truth doesn't matter. Perception matters. Perception is what you need to manipulate if you want to bring the population of a country down. Russia understands this and yes, they use it against the U.S. (we do too)

>>19362985
Wouldn't multinational petrochemical conglomerates stand to gain a great deal from climate change denial?

>>19362992
Three very different situations.

With Xinjiang you're talking an ongoing conflict that has persisted since the 1930s. You're dealing with localized ethnic groups and territory disputes. This isn't really a struggle between Russia and China over resources or geopolitical direction. Yes, there is conflict over the border but China has other problems to worry about; namely India and Pakistan.

Russia, China and Mongolia just entered into a series of trade agreements, so not sure what your point is there.

As for Russia-Thailand it's a non issue. China's military capabilities are far greater than they show and Russia knows this. Thailand is a geopolitical non-issue.

Final note: None of this even matters. We live in a globalized economy- a world of international banks and proxy wars. You can't apply traditional rules of warfare to what is happening today.

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>>19363021
Of course they do. Funny how there has been an upsurge in investment in Russian petrochemical companies within the last decade. Funny how Rex Tillerson was the CEO of ExxonMobil and has a personal relationship with Vladimir Putin. Funny how ExxonMobil was just fined for violating sanctions against Russia (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/politics/exxon-mobil-fined-russia-tillerson-sanctions.html).

Funny how the world works, isn't it?

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>>19362985
>Over time, the public is demoralized and nothing gets done.
>They want to start an artificial cold war to make more money.

Why wouldn't intelligence officials attempt to counteract the propaganda and make the West more stable? There could be so many pawns in all this that I don't know who the "good guy" is anymore. Everything is corrupt. Literal Rome 2.0, but this time there's nukes.

>>19363075
So Russia is behind the petrochemical companies, and not, I dunno, anyone in the middle east?

>>19363040

how much of current conflict would you say revolves around human/organ trafficking in the end of the day

>>19358190
>...Anonymous
ironic meme culture is planted

I feel this sudden urge to say DUHHH. Yes, it is the future of warfare. Sorry if you've been buying guns. Sorry, /k/, but the times they're a changing.

>>19362985
>Russia
who is Russia?

I agree op, let's start a race war already.

>>19363040
>You can't apply traditional rules of warfare to what is happening today.
i like that because its true.

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>>19363094
Who are you talking about? Saudi Arabia? Israel? Qatar? It doesn't really matter. All of them have their hands in the pie. The elite mutually profit off of war and then get together at international summits. The common man of all countries die while the elite make a profit.

War barely has anything to do with borders, nationality, ethnicity, etc. anymore, it's all about profit and political control. The world is run by international criminals. Civilization will end when they get bored and pissed off at one another, and decide to drop the fucking nukes.

>>19358190
it's just sewage spirituality that worships chaos instead of peace.

the left sees this and gets triggered and takes the chaos with them

>>19363156
When is the ice cream truck showing up, and when are you going to take the sand out of your arse, la?

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>>19363130
>>19363143

My biggest fear is that the Clintons, Trump, Russia, the CIA and other intelligence officials, Saudi Arabia, and (((them))), are all using the US as a proxy to serve global goals before it all inevitably goes crashing down due to the West's decadence.

It's just a big show and they're trying to keep up the facade by global elites for however long they can plunder.

They're shipping in minorities to the West in order to soften the blow after the collapse so that when the elites relocate their assets to Russia/China, they can use Russia's and China's military to step in and set up a low-wage Communist state.

bls stob

>>19363103
Very minor. The nation states that do engage in organized human trafficking tend to work within their own networks. The only ones that compete in an economic sense within this network tend to be insignificant thugs on the ground level. Gang violence, murders, yeah, but typically within poorer countries and in a way that doesn't significantly hurt the profits of those at the top (it's pretty decentralized).

Every nation state that engages in this trade is part of the same network. Those that do not have no imperative to start wars over it as it's largely a moralistic concern. Everyone has blood on their hands. Some countries just kill political dissidents and harvest the organs that way. It's just a fact of life.

>>19363189
The thing that makes me believe that this may soon be the case is a US National Guard video (or was it US Army...) which essentially painted the US's big cities as becoming cyberpunk nightmares full of sexual degeneracy, violence and malicious cyber warfare.

Makes sense when you think about the West's inevitable financial crash. I'll try to look for it.

Here it is

https://vimeo.com/187093104

>>19363180

you left out iran, no one knows whos side they are on

and what assad represents, what gaddaffi represented

>>19363258
Iran is being "groomed" by the US to be the next best ally. That's huge, because they will put Iran right next to Israel. The reason behind this huge interest, is the presence of pre-historic artifacts found residing there. We all know about the old Gods and Goddesses.

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>>19358190
All those memes serve some purpose but no one knows who is engineering the whole thing.

>>19363180
I'm not sure that they are all working together 100%, but it does seem as if they are all playing the same sick game. They could all either be in on it or just accidental sociopaths that made their way to the top.

The way I see it, people who are obsessively power-hungry are willing to resort to anything from lies to genocide to get what they want. For the past 2-3 decades, these people have weaved ideas of deception and evil into policy, trade deals and culture. This is globalism. But now people are forgoing globalism in favor of nationalism / populism! So this creates a vacuum in the "market" for power, and others swoop in.

The problem with this, is that it's actually worse than a "one world government". That implies that everyone is working together. This is more like a one world cult in which every member has signed a blood pact and has now grown to hate one another. This is a group of people being locked into a room for eternity and eventually clawing each others' flesh off in a violent rage.

Imagine me and you are childhood friends and we are both locked within a reality in which we run independent, competing lemonade stands. We would be competing to get people to come drink our lemonade. But eventually, I'm going to get sick of trying to sell my lemonade. I'm going to use that knife I use to slice lemons to slit your throat.

The problem is not the conspiracy. The problem is those who created it.

>>19363312

more like pipelines from turkmenistan and other parts of central asia and kazakhstan

but it is interesting, what if Iran is where all the answers to x's questions and curiosities lie?

what if aliens are in central asia of all places

the secrets to astral projection and shit too

the sufis and esotericism

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>>19358190

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>>19363340
>Imagine me and you are childhood friends and we are both locked within a reality in which we run independent, competing lemonade stands. We would be competing to get people to come drink our lemonade. But eventually, I'm going to get sick of trying to sell my lemonade. I'm going to use that knife I use to slice lemons to slit your throat.

Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. It's a lot of corrupt top individual people with their own interests in mind rather than entire nation-states.

They know that if you create disorder, there will be money to gain. The country, its culture, or its history really doesn't matter to them.

>>19358190
I think your wrong, if you understood geo politics and history you would realize there are people who want to watch the world burn. I am one of them.