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Is hell real? And am I going there?

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I'm a 20 year old catholic and I recently accepted that I like both women and men. I'm gonna go on a date with a guy next Saturday.
I'm not a bad person. I go to mass, I love my parents and sister, I do well at university, I try to treat everybody well, and I help the poor when I can.

But I'm afraid. Liking men will make me go to hell? Does God consider that as a sin? Am I a degenerate? Help me /x/
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if this is a bait then Kek. if this is real then you'er an fucking idiot
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It's not but it's times like these when I wish it were.
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It doesn't matter. You're not a good person. You're going to hell. Definitely.
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Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all believe in the same god , and that god says that you are going to fry in hell for being a faggot.

Of course you can find some false prophet or libtard sect somewhere to tell you lies. But you know in the bible it says you are going to hell
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Well, let me tell you what is sending you to hell.
Firstly you're a christian, your religion is wrong so you're going to hell. Religions are manmade, all of them.
Secondly you're gay.
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>>19335887
No, Bifag. you're not a bad person. You're a victim of leftist population control. You're already in hell, but hell is just short for shell, which is your body, so don't freak out. Your soul is eternal and the only judgment you will face is by man during life.
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>>19335887
Yeah. No amount of liberal word poison will change the fact that you're a faggot and are going to hell. Where you belong.
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By the way, if you were actually a catholic you would know what original sin is and that you were a sinner from birth
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>>19335922
Why is being a Christian wrong?>>19335956
Jesus saves man
>>19335949
Leftist control? Explain to me anon
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>>19335887
No. All is one. There is no hell. Only lower astral planes. Don't worry. Have no fear and love unconditionally as much you can, yourself included.
>LawofOne.info.
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>>19335963
The internet cucifies guys, along with the feminist movement and pornography. The world population is growing too rapidly for capitalism to continue to be a viable means of government. The rich are in control, and capitalism means control of the rich, so they would rather turn the people into faggots than advance to a more modern form of governance.
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>>19335887
Yes.
You are going to hell.

Lol no. It doesn't say anywhere that in the bible that gay people go to heaven.
It says those that commit adultery commit a mortal sin in the ten commandments but that is the case of infidelity.

In terms of what it says in the bible...technically speaking you should be stoned to death, no words on whether you go to hell after such a punishment though...
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>>19335887
FUCK YOUR CHURCH
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Hell is a state of mind. Technically earth is hell.

Www.wespenre.com

Read his level 4 papers
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>>19335917
>>19335922
>>19335997
>pic related

You guys aren't behaving like christians and are going to hell :)
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No it's not. Neither is the world going to end. Also sin is not real, but violence and harm are. Be a good person, respect your fellow man and strive to die having made the world a better place.
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>>19335887
Here is what the bible says (foot noting):
>Hate the sin not the person
>Salvation is a gift and is not earned
>All who accept Jesus Christ as their savior will have eternal life
>Salvation cannot be lost
>Those in hell are the people who will never take God's hand even if it were offered to them
> So, only the hardest of hearts go to hell
> It doesn't matter if you're considered evil, or good, or neutral or chaotic neutral, only people who don't take God's gift will be left in hell
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>>19336129
You are a sheep that has been programed by the Roman Empire to serve the rich and you are already in a hell.
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>>19336129
This guy gets it.
Can you all go back to /b/ and /pol/ where you belong?

It's crazy how /pol/ and /b/ poison other boards.

You realize in a real world setting, most of you are on the lower part of the hierarchy right?

Crazy how all these extremist "right wingers" come out and express intolerance and "Hell" doctrine.

If hell exist, you're all going to it as well, retards.
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>>19335887

What is "a date"? What is "liking"?

Are you being coy - or baiting, as seems likely - or are you a man planning a sexual tryst with another man?

If the latter, of course it's sinful, gravely sinful.

See paragraphs 2331 through 2372.

>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

2357 through 2359, in particular.

>2359. Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

Also of interest:

>http://www.divinemercysunday.com/vision.htm

>Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one can say what it is like...
-St. Faustina
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>>19335922
KYS
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>>19335922

>You're going to hell

>Religions are manmade.
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>>19336264
how christian of you
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>>19335887
You're fine anon, stop listening to the /pol/shits and have a good date.
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>>19335997
>capitalism
>means of government

lol
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>>19335887
>catholic
yep
going to hell
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>>19336322
Oligarchy, then, if you want to be a technical-fag about it. lol
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>>19335887
You won't go to hell (because it's not real), but you are a degenerate.
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You'll only go to hell if the dudes are ugly
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>>19335887
You're not a Christian.
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>>19335887
It is real. You should repent and establish a relationship with Jesus.
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>>19335887
yes and you living in it
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>>19335917
>>19336070

Bait regardless, these posts are wrong and just looking to hurt.

In fact, in Christian doctrine, you can be homosexual and still be sinless. You just simply can't act on those temptations. I am pretty sure that it doesn't say in the bible, straight up "if you like guys, in the least, you will burn forever". But it's all just a book written by politically powerful human beings anyway.

I think it makes sense that the whole "god hates fags" thing is propaganda spread by a few groups interpreting the bible in their own personal way, warping the meaning to their favor because they are possibly bigoted. I could be wrong though.
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>>19336284
Thanks dude
>>19336326
But why?
>>19336393
I believe in Christ
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>>19336170
top kek
i don't know if you realise the irony of your post but it really made me laugh

namaste
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>>19335887
op, you are probably gay because of chemicals in your food and water

you won't go to hell for it but it is not good for you spiritually

well most likely at least
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Do you really believe God, someone who loves you unconditionally, would ever send you to a place of eternal punishment? Do you really think that such a loving father would EVER condemn his children to an eternity of torture?

Fuck that and fuck the man-made bible. God loves you, he wouldn't torture you for eternity because you masturbated without asking for forgiveness, came in some guy's asshole or called some shithead who cut you off in traffic a shithead.

Live your life by the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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>>19336129
i hate to make this point..but ALL the bible is, is what not to do and who is evil and wrong..every so often they put in a few points about being good to some people, but for the most part it tells you what not to be..
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>>19335887
Look, OP. Every thing you do, you every action you take will be judged by God. And God loves those who do things, and take actions. So be as bi as you can be. Show God all the various kinds of love you possibly can, unconditionally and always. If you do this, you will be forgiven no matter what you did in life, on the basis that you did it all so that God might have the opportunity to judge you accordingly.

You are already perfectly made. Your heart is your direct connection to heavenly guidance. And sometimes God asks people to enter the darkness, in order to find the light again.

Besides, denying your true self, just so you can have a golden after life is selfish. Compare that to forming loving relationships, sharing joy with others, exploring the potential experiences that God has created for you, whether through sin or virtue. Be courageous. Do not look farther than your own experiences to know what it is good for you and those you share your life with. Christ already took all the evil upon his flesh, so his followers would not have to tremble in fear, at interpreting the infinite shades of meaning within God's words.

It hardly matters what do you, but the reasons why you do it is everything. Do you pursue selfish goals, or sharing your vision of love with others? So long as you are true to your self, God's legion of messengers will make it abundantly clear with events in your very life if you are walking a path of sin or virtue. Be aware. Listen to the rhythm of you heart. Do not fear judgement, but rather welcome it knowing that it is better to be sinful, and honest, than to hide from your self.

Then, decide, with conviction and no regrets, because which ever path you take, they are all ultimately good.
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>>19335887
God treats all sins with the same gravity. Seek forgiveness for your sins through Christ and you will be let into the Kingdom of Heaven. that being said, the Commandments mentions nothing about homosexuality. You could be a happily married gay man and not adulterize.
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>>19335887
Don't believe the hateful words of repressed homosexuals. God loves you. He will accept you as you are.
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>>19335887
God made Eve from Adam so man could have companionship. Why would God be upset about something he made. Just be sure it doesn't become a sinful relationship.

And if you're insinuating all men are bad, you should consider why God made all men and women in his image and you should also read the bible. Because blind hate of anyone, gender or not is not good.
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>>19336557
"If there are gods, and they are just, then they will not care how devout you are, but by what virtues you lived your life by. If there are god, and they are not just, then they are not gods who deserve your worship"

Or something along those lines, I'm trying to say it from memory
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>>19335887
>catholic
>likes both women and men
>is afraid of going to hell

You do realize that the vatican hierarchy diddles boys for hobby? You're safe don't worry, your religion low-key condones debaucheries.
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>>19335887
jesus died for your sins and you already accepted him as your saviour. have fun getting your bunghole nailed.
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>>19336660
>accepted him as your saviour.
hey I didn't sign anything. And I won't without my lawyers thoroughly verifying every term and condition, Mr. so-called Jezsus.
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>>19336668
don't have to sign anything if your parents decided to have you baptized as an infant :^)
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>>19336671
this is null and void and not legally binding.
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>>19336671
It only lasts as long as the child is not mature enough to know about how salvation works.
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>>19336688
so how does it work? It's actually 'Magic', Harry Potter tier BS.
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>>19336698
It's a symbolic ritual that has God recognize the Child as washed clean from their sins because they're too young to grasp what sin is.
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>>19336698
baptism > first communion > confirmation
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>>19336705
Only that God is the first and only cause of 'Sin' to begin with. It Illogical to the extreme. Only dumb and gullible people believe all this.
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Do you really need to be baptized by water to get into heaven? What's the point?

>You lived your life almost exactly according to the bible, somehow. But you didn't get dunked in water, so enjoy hellfire forever!
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>>19336721
>talks about things he neither understands nor has studied
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No, not really. It's for people who don't grasp what sin is. What's ultimately important is recognizing Christ as the savior and asking for forgiveness in His name.
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>>19336735
>but muh holy book says so
what a cheap cop out when logic kills you
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>>19336732
>>19336742
Forgot clickity click click reply
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>>19335887
I get that OP was probably posting this to escape the /pol/ reaction, with pics of dead gays and just sick opinions.

OP is a good person, but I'm in the same situation. Catholics really conditioned their followers (including myself) over the years to believe that any sin is the worst thing ever. It's not true, the Catholic church made these new rules by selecting and omitting certain scriptures over their early years to cement the power over their large followers with them alone, which drew in endless money and subservience.

OP sounds like a nice guy. Just stay faithful to who you're with. If you want an open relationship I wouldn't judge, just make sure your partner knows your intentions, don't break any hearts.

Tbh just don't worry about what other people think, march to your own drum senpai
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>>19336751
Well one sin is enough to drag someone to hell, hence the necessity of Jesus' sacrifice. It's not enough to be a "good" person. That being said, it doesn't mean you have to buy into the church's bullshit that you've recognized. Your relationship with God and Christ is your own and a private one.
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>>19336756
Agreed, I think it's important that you recognize God in your life and that you recognize that you're a sinner, and that he gave his son for us. Or whatever you believe. Ultimately, be a humble person. Live your life but don't infringe on others
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if you like men then you know what to do when god tries to send you to hell ;)
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>jesus died for our sins, then went down and brought everyone who went to hell up to heaven
>people still think you can go to hell after jesus sacrificed himself for us
why do people always underestimate jesus' sacrifice?
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>>19335887
If you believe God really gives a shit about which consenting adult you stick your benis in, you are in the wrong religion.

/thread
<sage>
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>>19335887

Hell isn't real, my young friend. Do you think that desert tribes understood the truth of life after death? These things are fictions written down in a very old book. Reality is even stranger than whatever they wrote.
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>>19335887
Catholicism is arguably the largest heresy ever committed. Being a catholic alone has you walking on eggshells. Here's a tip, actually read The Bible and leave that Phoenician filth behind. Implying this isn't b8, you're str8, m8 8/8
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>>19335887
>>19335917

>I'm a 20 year old catholic and I recently accepted that I like both women and men. I'm gonna go on a date with a guy next Saturday.
>I'm not a bad person. I go to mass, I love my parents and sister, I do well at university, I try to treat everybody well, and I help the poor when I can.
>But I'm afraid. Liking men will make me go to hell? Does God consider that as a sin? Am I a degenerate? Help me /x/

If you keep going to church you might go to hell. Monotheism in the form of Moses/Muhammad worship is, was, and always will be outlawed everywhere on Planet Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mgZXylbIA
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>>19336486
>>19336486

truth. Look up "Depopulation Agenda"

>btw, if you are a christian then it is considered a sin to have a sexual relationship with ANYONE (regardless of race, gender, etc) purely for mortal, momentary pleasure

Source: I went to church classes in my youth and was baptized, had my first confession, first communion, and became confirmed, all within the Catholic Church. I have since become a tentative agnostic
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>>19335887
Jesus loves you, and will never forsake you (John 3:16). All you have to do is trust in Him, believe in the sacrifice He made for you, and ask Jesus to come and make his home inside you (Romans 10:9).

Regardless of the lives we have led, EVERYONE has sinned in this life, and has fallen short of God's grace (Romans 3:23). Sounds like you were raised in the Catholic faith early on, but only a TRUE relationship with God through Jesus Christ can save our souls (John 14:6).

God bless, OP.
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>>19335887
You'll be fine.
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>>19335887
God created you. So, god wanted you to be a faggot. Be happy.

The bible has been written and rewritten for CENTURIES. Even if i was christian, i wouldn't take the bible seriously.

Just think on what makes more sense. Do you think god cares if you suck cock???, that's retarded. Just be a good human, help others, don't steal, don't kill and you will be fine.
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>>19336751
Thanks a lot my man
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>>19336955
Can we have a thread dedicated to "Depopulation Agenda"?
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>>19335887
No Hell is not real. Suck as many fat cocks as you want
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>>19335887
Mark 16.16
Romans 3.23

>Everyone sucks
>The New Testament absolves you from the restrictions of the old
>anyone who thinks they live a life worthy of gaining salvation mocks the sacrifice of Christ.
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God, heaven, satan, hell are all fables that some grown-ups still believe is reality. Move past childish beliefs anon.
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>>19335887
Being a "good person" doesn't get you to heaven. You have to accept Jesus as your lord and savior. There's more to it than being a "good person." Go talk to your priest about it.
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>>19337947
Being good doesnt get you to heaven because heaven doesnt exist. Being good makes you not be an asshole though.
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>>19335887
Man, these trolls are irritating. Here's an actual serious response:

Remember, acting on your urges is much different from doing certain actions, but avoid perverted thoughts. Our god does not approve of homosexuality, BUT he is merciful. Our lord loves mankind and dreads people going to hell. DO NOT have those type of relations with other men.

I'm not sure what everyone is trying to prove claiming hell isn't real when the bible clearly says otherwise. http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/hell-bible-verses/

>>19336070
Stoning to death was done in the old testament, Christ does not condone it anymore; Jesus himself spared an adulteress! As Christ said one is forgiven by repenting (changing their ways) and accepting him, the son, Jesus does not want the stoning of his children.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A1-11&version=NLT
John 8:6
“All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”
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don't go on that date anon. men sleeping with men is absolutely repulsive to God.

you know what will separate you from God. once you have done those things, death at any time will send you directly to eternal fire.

do not betray God. certain acts cut off His saving grace as you know.
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>>19337947
wow does jesus sound like an ass. Hell is probably better.
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>>19335887
Just do your thing in your religion which is go to confession regularly and you should be fine
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>>19335887
What is the origin of the word 'hell'?
What is etymology of it?
There you will find you answer.

While you are at it,
where did the Catholic Church got it's authority from really?
And who actually made sure you heard about and read the bible?

If you can truly answer that, then tell my how much weight you should put on anything you know from the bible, the message of it and it validity?

Thank me later.
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>>19335887
You're fine god made you in his image so therefor if you like guys that means he likes em too right? I mean you were made in his likeness...
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>>19335887
be compassionate to others. be generous. love your neighbor (everyone on earth) be patient. Learn to meditate and ask for truth. get rid of negative feelings like hate, fear, greed, aggression.

you will not go to hell just for having a gay relationship. God does not work like that. God cares how much you love. God rejects the negative.

I have seen hell in a deep meditative state. it is utterly empty and cold. the souls there have no love in them, only hate fear and greed. there is total separation from God. After experiencing God's bliss, hell is truly hellish. I did not go there, I was just shown. I asked and there it was. The emptiness and despair is indescribable.

sucking cock is not a sin. squeezing money out of poor people for personal gain is the worst sin.
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>>19335917
you guys do know King James sucked cock right??? True, look it up.
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>>19335922
>Religions are manmade, all of them.
true, but don't be so harsh. God just cares about love. thats pretty much it.
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>>19335949
>only judgment you will face is by man during life.
unless you do bad things to others, spread hate, lies fear, greed. those things get you into hell. there are a few souls that cannot be saved, they will be destroyed. most come around eventually
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>>19335954
spreading hate are we? tisk tisk. I'd say see you in hell, but no, I won't. enjoy your lesson.
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>>19335956
that's not true.
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>>19335988
excellent bro
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>>19337288
so much this.... this annon gets it
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>>19339141
wise

reminder - king james sucked cock, literally
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>>19335887
Hey dickhead, you're the master of your own destiny. If you're worried then you should be worried, if you're not worried, then jam out and nothing of value has been lost.
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