Developing a scientific understanding of the source of our thoughts

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Here are some other behavior and thought patterns that I believe are beset upon me by some external source.
> Fidgeting
> Time wasting (absence of productive or wholesome activities)
> Discouragement from attempts to comprehend the origin of my thoughts
> Manipulations to certain behaviors (theft, masturbation)
> Sexually obsessed thought patterns
> Double think (thinking the same thing [including specific word sequences] twice or more in short order)
> Spaced thoughts (e.g. instead of thinking the word "shift," this thought pattern involves thinking each letter with some spacer in between, such as "underscore; such as "s, underscore h, underscore i, ...")

>>19296782

>I would like to develop a scientific understanding and derivation of all possible sources of our thoughts, and what things we can do to willfully modify them.

Not something you're going to achieve on an imageboard. What do you really mean when you use the word 'scientific'?

I believe you are correct OP, I have felt that myself. You should meditate every day, more than once if you can. You are being influenced by thoughtforms, but you can choose who to listen to. Raise your frequency enough and dark thoughtforms wont affect you. You may even meet some ascended masters if you're humble and honest enough, then they will teach you all you need to know.

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>>19296838
Hypotheses that validly describe the relationship between our behaviors and behavior patterns, and the thoughts that are set upon us. As well as how we can change our behavior patterns to establish thought patterns that we desire.

Some simple examples are where you want to do something, and then suddenly you find yourself repeatedly thinking about it. I believe that (regardless of whether the source of these thought patterns are external or internal) these relationships are consistent among different people and we can thus utilize them to achieve the thought patterns that we desire.

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>>19296782
>>19296815
Seems like you recently learned the word "beset" because you keep trying to use it

>>19296852

Ok, well if you're going to talk about science then you might want to use its jargon correctly at the very least. In fact, learning what a hypothesis is and what it's used for might be a good first step.

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>>19296782
>>19296815
Here are some things I have tried which do not seem to have yielded any noticeable result in improving my thought patterns
> Apologizing for wrongdoings
> (Mentally) Requesting information on how to resolve these unwanted things that are set upon my life
> Appealing to higher entities (God, Jesus, etc...)
> Curse removal
> Spiritual healers
> Creating counter thoughts or trying to say "no" to the thoughts
> Blocking the thoughts
> Telling them (or their origin) to stop or leave

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>>19296871
Beset (of a problem or difficulty) - Trouble persistently (e.g. "the social problems that beset the inner city)
>>19296874
Hypothesis - A supposed explanation of an experienced phenomena, reasoning behind its source, mechanism, and other contributing factors, often made with limited evidence for the purpose of further investigation

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>>19296782
OP, you may appreciate a book that some /x/ anons cite here called "The Urantia"...

You may also be interested in various like-minded scientific writers such as L. Ron Hubbard...

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>>19296967
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book

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IMHO, Chinese spirituality seems to be a bit 'objective' (perhaps because of how ancient it is and well-documented) so OP may also do well by looking into Chinese spirituality (in the spirit of rationalism) as it is especially (IMHO) a good contrast with western spirituality.

>>19296782
I could probably learn a lot talking to you OP!

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Sounds like you have a good start on recognizing or at least delving into "the self", OP!

The Catholic Church may also be a good spiritual helper.

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>>19296815
>Fidgeting

The trouble with the internet is that online there are many shills and "alternative interests" and corporate/government profiling and databases and what have you...

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>>19297001
(...just my personal opinion)

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>>19297001
Many people online pretend to be real people but are just trying to manipulate you or trigger emotions in one way or another, IMO...

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>look at this picture here

...I have successfully triggered you to think a certain way

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>Somebody who looks like this...

I.E... Anonymous.... could just be a police officer or your corporate boss posting online

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>>19297001
Indeed, I should add
> Paranoia (that the government, random people via my webcam, or spirits are watching my every move)
>>19297024
This may be a paranoia that has been set upon you to oppress you
>>19297036
Are you wanting to post something here but afraid of persecution in some manner or another?

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>>19296995
I had an experience where when I would go to Church or read the bible that I would be increasingly asked (or have thoughts) to sell my soul to the Devil. This still affects me to this day. It is not really an experience I would like to have again.

>>19296782
>At one point I was able to begin removing these problems by changing my behavior patterns
Would anyone in this thread be interested in the actions I performed which successfully changed my thought patterns

>>19297064
Yes, pl0x

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>>19297079
Okay, I am going to revisit them and attempt to see if repeating those behavior patterns will again improve my thoughts (and consequent behaviors). I took quite a few notes during that period so posting them here for you isn't a problem but it may take me a few minutes/hours to find and go over them.

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....psychology speaks of a "temperament" or some "innate" quality or perhaps force that's exists within an individual

>>19297141
please do Anon, I'm not the previous poster but I'm interested as well

Our Brains are Meat Modems to the higher Self.

This reality you think is real is a Simulation.

We are all quantum beings. Hence, we are all quantum mechanically manipulable beings.

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The internet (our minds) is the real final frontier.

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It's like my subconscious is throwing up ideas about what I could do and automatically brings to my consciousness the idea that is the most fun.

There are so many distractions in the world that we cannot spend all our time on them. The government tries to help us make what it thinks is the best choice, but ultimately it is up to us as individuals to treat them as they are... distractions. We cannot ignore them for their effect is so perverse that ignoring them would be to let their effects spread.

Your subconscious (inner mind) will do everything in it's power to prevent change. It will come up with excuses, procrastinate, make excuses for not using ideas, even if it's good for you. The reason why you'll do that to yourself is because the old you is comfortable. It has a built in survival mechanism to protect the status quo, that's why change is so difficult... going directly into the subconscious, and rewiring how you think about yourself and your future is key to long lasting permanent change.

>>19296967
>L. Ron Hubbard.
you adice him to read fkn scientology shit? are you even srious?

OP here, an addendum to this subject, I also have a lot of symptoms typical of childhood trauma. I have spoken to my parent who has confirmed that my behavior changed after I was kidnapped as a child. Here are the symptoms of childhood trauma that match my typical behavior patterns:
>problems with relationship boundaries
>lack of trust
>social isolation
>difficulty perceiving and responding to others' emotional states
>lack of empathy
>difficulty identifying and expressing emotions and internal states
>difficulties communicating needs, wants, and wishes
>depersonalization
>problems with impulse control
>sleep problems
>difficulty regulating attention
>problems with a planning, judgement, and self-monitoring
>difficulty focusing and completing tasks
>poor object constancy
>problems with 'cause-effect' thinking
>low self-esteem

>>19297823

I'm on a similar path, I think. I've yet to come up with a good strategy for this though.
At this point I'm still experimenting with meditation and lucid dreaming, it's pretty interesting, especially if you have a creative mind.

>>19298023
Stalking the wild pendulum by Itzhak bentov might be an interesting read.

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>>19297656
...I said "early" l. Ron Hubbard, m8

>>19296815
Paranoia it's socially created, if there's no other people, there's nothing to be paranoid about.

>I learned that from a serial killer.

Read principles of neural design by peter sterling. It should be freely available online. It isn't difficult to read.

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>>19297823
eliminate all weakness, exterminate with extreme prejudice

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Read the Art of Stalking Parallel Perception by Lujan Matus. You have noticed "the thing that is there" aka the predator.

I think Napoleon Hill has some things you might find relevant. Affirmation and visualization to guide passive thought. Building some self respect through your concept of a deity.

12 step material might also be of interest. If you suffer from covert depression, there are thoughts and emotions that you try desperately to avoid. Your mind races and you seek distractions to avoid this existential pain. Meditation, counseling, amends-making can treat this dark cloud you've been carrying around.

These suggestions aren't very /X/ but they are EXOteric, meaning there is no secret aspect to them. The relevant info is widely available.

Alter perception, alchemical or otherwise

Alter language, alchemical or otherwise

Alter what-is, co(s)mical or otherwise

>>19298343
No you didn't. Reread your post the other anon quoted if you forgot what you typed.