/omg/ Occult & Magick General

http://chomikuj.pl/martaaouzal1/Literatura/Angielskie+i+inne/Ezoterika+ENG/Esoteric/Argentum+Astrum/DCLXXI+(pyramidos)+-+Neophyte/liber_671_vel_troa,3482292172.pdf

Here's a hand-illustrated version of ThROA, not sure if it's in the mega but it's neat, for anyone who is interested

>>19282856
>Here's a hand-illustrated version of ThROA
It's the Kowal Typescript which has been in the library for over a year now.

>>19283344
>also, one free (you) to anyone who correctly guesses which DBoE rite that the OP's pic is illustrating

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What's the occult take on Jesus? Man? Myth? Magician? Messiah? Metaphor? Egregore? Astrological allegory?

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>>19283378
When the fires of Shin (spirit) descend into matter (YHVH) it produces YHShVH.

The sheer volume of volumes on Chaos magic is overwhelming me. Is there a specific work that works as a good starting point?

>>19283378
He was a rabbi. If he did any of those "miracles" they were either magic or the same kind of charlatan "faith healing" you see in modern revivals. But I'm more inclined to believe he was simply a decent guy whose followers thought he was the Messiah (correct me if I'm wrong but he never seemed to confirm or deny, it was always others who said so), and ultimately pissed off the wrong people.

>>19283391
Pop Magic

Anyone know the name of the puja where weapons and tools are offered to Durga?

>>19283391
Chaos Protocols

>>19283392
Messiah?
No, The Nazarene ain't him.

Yeshuah ben Yosef may have been a solid as shit Rabbi but I still have SERIOUS problems with Paul's theology.

>>19283400
You're gonna have to be WAY more specific than that. Otherwise my best guess would be Mahakali Puja or Guhyakali Puja.

>>19283413
Not a typical puja, the implements are imbued with shakti

>>19283378
Deceiver

>>19283385
So the name's a cipher? Does that mean you support the myth/metaphor interpretation?

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>>19283419
>Not a typical puja
And what about Mahakali or Guhyakali are "typical"? Your description fits both possible Godform protocols.

>>19283421
>But in the first we came to a mighty throne of gray granite, shaped like the sweetest pussy cat you ever saw, and set up on a desolate heath. It was midnight, and the Devil came down and sat in the midst; but my Fairy Prince whispered: "Hush! it is a great secret, but his name is Yeheswah, and he is the Saviour of the World." And that was very funny, because the girl next me thought it was Jesus Christ, till another Fairy Prince (my Prince's brother) whispered as he kissed her: "Hush, tell nobody ever, that is Satan, and he is the Saviour of the World."

>>19283423
>New Devi Mandir
Good luck constructing mantras for that rifle.
You'll need it.

Does anyone have any resources for things in the vein of government Black Op "Jedi" remote seeing and government mages, occultism in the government, occultism in business, that sort of stuff? I'm already reading the fbi/cia declassifieds on remote seeing

>>19283483
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVw9XnGghOg

>>19283423
wtf lol

>>19283423
Who is the guy in the pic? Is this some O9A or ToB WE WUZ TERRORISTS sheit?

>>19283406
Oh, believe me, I agree. Paul was a git.

>>19283506
>Is this some O9A or ToB WE WUZ TERRORISTS sheit?
Yes.
https://www.facebook.com/newbiharmandir

>>19283497
Thanks!

QUALITY information on all points

>>19283520
>http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Metal_Gear

http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Persona_Management

http://wiki.project-pm.org/wiki/Persona_Development

https://youtu.be/hK9Ie3Fp7yg

>>19283518
i thought vaishnavites were mentally ill...but this is just roflcopters.

>>19283538
>https://youtu.be/hK9Ie3Fp7yg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Information_Awareness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Zones_That_See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIRAT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterogeneous_Aerial_Reconnaissance_Team

https://youtu.be/TEM5hW6BMJA

>>19283518
Wow what a bunch of jokers

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>>19283544
Gaur premanande hari haribol

>>19283595
https://youtu.be/nM95HQ2rpV0

Opinions on this?

>>19278710

>>19283609
I really don't like downloading my CIA dox from CIA servers (even though I used to crawl for newly declass'd dox).

Someone mirror it and I'll give you my feedback.

FWIW I've a TOUCH of occult related (albeit tangential) stuff in the Pysch Model folder. Some of it goes through SERE training. SERE developed the torture methods of the US military. Multiple O9A photos have been taken using SERE patches.

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>>19283625
Previews
1/3

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>>19283660
2/3

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>>19283666
3/3

>>19283625
>TOUCH of occult related (albeit tangential)
Notice:

>>19283552
>>19283538
Upper left corner. Rose with Chaos Star.

>>19283497
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office
Notice the acronym for his agency.
I.A.O.
IAO

>>19283671
>Itshak Bentov
Swinging the Wild Pendulum is on my bookshelf.

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>>19283679
It's mentioned as Stalking the Wild Pendulum.

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>>19283679
Also I just accidentally downloaded the thing.

This is old news. Another Stargate era private outfit trying drink from the private intelligence contract moneywell. No more or less stiff than New Earth Battalion.

I'll never understand why /x/ flips it's lid over thirty to forty year old research that's been public for over a decade.

Last few weeks there's been wailing and gnashing of teeth over the ancient ass Stargate papers.

If you wanna feel some existential terror, go pop a speeder, read everything on Project PM, and come back to see if you think I'm a sufficiently advanced AI, or one of a cluster of sockpuppets with an artificially curated personality via centralized shitposting software platforms.

>>19283690
>Stalking the Wild Pendulum.
W/e, I couldn't be bothered to go over and see what the actual title was.

>>19283697
Apw, where can one find this Grey Market you speak so fondly of?

>>19283701
The internet.
(Cereotropic, NHNC)

>>19283710
Are there potential repercussions? Because, like, I know where I can get a kilo of fentanyl online, too, but I'm too worried about who will be waiting at the post office to order it!

>>19283714
The legal status is:
>Grey
Hence "grey market".
No sold compound is scheduled. That said, there is the potential for prosecution under the analogue act but I've never heard of this happening.

-finils often wind up in dietary supplements you can get at GNC type places.

I've had zero problems.

>>19283710
For an occultist on the go, how do adrafinil and hydrafinil compare to modafanil?

>>19283722
If you have a moda hookup just keep it. Adra's fairly weak and has to pass through the liver. Hydra's not a finil at all but a fluorene alcohol which sounds spooky but seems to have an incredibly low toxicity for potency even in metabolism.

Of the two I'd buy Hydra over Adra every time.

>>19283625
>I really don't like downloading my CIA dox from CIA servers
I mean if your using any intel-I series you are back-doored at the hardware level.

>>19283742
Which is a shame, the I-3 is such a decent value for output.

>>19283752
I used to be really sketchy about my security. Tor / VPN, not used together, etc. I finally came to the realization that there is no way of hiding if they really want to get to you.

>>19283735
I don't, but used too. Ok I will keep that in mind. Thanks very much. How would you say this stuff compares to like, two bottles of Yerba Mate containing 140mg caffeine each? I have noticed the caffeine in Mate doesn't have a lot of the negative side effects of coffee.

>>19283777
I left those protections behind ages ago.
Around the time first Project PM leaks, I think.

>>19283784
A-are you srsly asking me if I think YM compares to dopaminergic amphetamine analogues? The answer is "no".

One of NHNC's hydra caps keeps me spun for the workday.

>>19283795
I am reading into PM right now. I have talked to you previously and took your advice on on related reading material; Libre 25 / Some Nag Hamadi / Ancient Babylon. It has been fairly illuminating from my perspective and helped me come to terms with my experiences. Without going into specifics... I believe I have undergone a form of Gnosis. Do you have any recommendations on information relating to the helpers of the Anu / N.B.E? Just trying to make sense of my experience. It has been half a decade and I feel like I am starting to put things in perspective but still lack the big picture / intent.

>>19283735
>but a fluorene alcohol which sounds spooky but seems to have an incredibly low toxicity
As an illustration, at least three of Shulgin's compounds use the same fluorocomplex AND if you yank off the hydrogen you just get anti-malarial medicine.

Of the two, both novel, my best educated GUESS is that Fluorenol has less potential for complications given that Adra needs to hit that first pass metabolism before the wanted effects kick in.

>>19283804
U-uh no? I'm asking you
>how
You think they compare? As in, "(x)is 4x as potent as (YM)"

>>19283869
>You think they compare? As in, "(x)is 4x as potent as (YM)"
I mean, everyone's pharmakodynamics are different.

Moda pushes about half the amount of buttons as amp. Adra pushes about half that again (it's super fucking narrow). Hydra appears to have the same narrow spectrum but jacks up one of the D attention centers high that Adra doesn't, but doesn't come with the jitter complex that Moda is prone to produce.

In my experience Hydra's about twice the jolt of YM per-dose.

>>19283882
Thank you, kind sir. See, this is why some things are better asked than googled. Stimulants actually have a tendency to fuck my digestive system (especially blow), and trigger opiate cravings. So I'm looking for alternatives to straight up speed. Muchas gracias.

>>19283902
>and trigger opiate cravings. So I'm looking for alternatives to straight up speed
Did you get that at all with Moda?

That comes from broad spectrum D agonism in the mesolimbic pathways and memory loci, and when it gets narrowed down to specific D receptors you can sorta control for that.

I've never had a "dopamine rush" from either Hydra or Adra, but Hydra produces some quiet ENDORPHIN rushes that I think are nice but I dunno how they'll manifest in a system tuned for opioids.

>>19283917
It's been so long since I did Moda, I'm inclined to say "no" though. I was addicted to opiates for quite a period, so that may have something to do with it.

>>19283917
>>19283921
I'm honestly thinking of just getting back on suboxone and taking regular old dexamp, but the whole reason I got off subs is that it seemed to inhibit: My ability to AP, my ability to visualize, and my ability to experience certain phenomena except in a hazy sort of way, after having been on it for 3 months, following 5+ years of heavy opiate addiction.

>>19283938
Suboxone is one hell of a drug.
I've NEVER had tolerance for something build that fast in my system. It's nice every week or so but any more is Too Much.
Interestingly it was the only high power opiate I could function at with full capacity if you don't count the first hour purge.

>>19283956
Apparently a LOT of people get sick, even from 1 mg of it. My induction dose was 16mg and I took about 24mg for the first month. And it didn't even make me a little bit buzzed. Even crazier than that, it STILL wasn't even 75% satisfying to my withdrawals or cravings.

>>19283968
*24mg/day

>>19282835
>>19282835
ape, my man, great library.
a question.
whats the mystical purpose of "abrahadabra"?
is there any reference i can read?

>>19283968
Being an avowed burner, I could never understand junkiedom. That's not a condescension as much as an "it is a mystery to me".

My stomach can hold on 1mg but I'll ralph at 4. One night a buddy offered me a roughly 3mg line to snort and being the big bad ass I am it went down the hatch then I spent an hour and a half hugging the toilet.

I'll stick to infrequent doses of morphine and the occasional first-pass hydromorphone buzz, thx.

Do you guys ever do any magick? Jesus, it's all talk, talk, talk...

Ever heard of the term "armchair occultist"? Look it up because that's what you are.

>>19283980
I hate it man. The last 1-2 years was nothing but doing more and more just to bring myself up to a functional level. It stops being fun when you get hooked. I have found other drugs *not* to be like that.

>>19283987
Yeah, in fact...we have 24 hour days where most of us live, so popping in to chat every few hours between work and ritual schedule isn't too much of an interruption.

>>19283995
>tfw you did your solar worship, your contemplations, the tesseract, then walked three miles to completely reorganize the printroom, did solar worship again, walked back, but that's not good enough for whiny entitled anons who want to see every detail of my ritual record even though I sorta just wanna unwind before sunset because NEETs will never comprehend what it's like to be a productive human being

>>19283987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wHB-CN0eIk

>>19284031
>>19283828
No comment?

>>19284031
Have you ever noticed the people who autistically screech about MUH ARMCHAIRS are almost *exclusively* NEETs of some variety who can't even LBRP without reading from a p piece of paper? Because I know I have!

>>19283828
>helpers of the Anu / N.B.E?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTZFLgUYew

>>19283392
>He was a rabbi
How though? Wasn't he too young?

>>19283804
>One of NHNC's hydra caps keeps me spun for the workday.
Wait is THIS why you're so much more productive than me? I'll stop beating myself up I guess.

>>19284074
I will check it out thanks.

So...moda or hydra?

>>19283385
>When the fires of Shin (spirit) descend into matter (YHVH) it produces YHShVH.

Well that's neat

>>19284120
Speaking of the formula oh IHShVH, I noticed that the Rose Cross Ritual appears to *sort* of form a pyramid...is this the idea?

>>19283828
>information relating to the helpers of the Anu
wrong place to ask

Alright so I have a dead robin who just like fell to his death or something in my yard today. Great omens. That aside, anyone have experience removing the flesh from a bird in a way that will be minimally harmful to the feathers? Bones are priority, feathers less so, so I won't be like, devastated if I can't manage to preserve them.

One limitation is I may or may not move at some point in the not-so-distant future, so burying it and waiting six months is not super ideal. My current strategy is that I've protected it from possible rain and am just sort of...waiting. Ants have discovered it.
Comments? Suggestions?

how do i cast a spell of good luck on myself?

>>19284370
let the earth take it

>>19284421
Le Wytchbottle, contents standardized for the task via 777, sigilize as needed, empower thru ritual, (???), profit. I actually just did this for my girlfriend not too long ago.

>>19284370
Hydrogen peroxide

>>19284450

cant i just slash open my arm into a pentagram or something? i'm poor i don't have money for magic reagants

Yo muffungins cracka.
Fo da 2 years,I have no been attending such meetings,though back then I was quite active in those kind of threads-serving as an quite potent source of knowledge,for the beginners.Armchair hard here,and in those 2 years,I have forgotten every-single-thing,just like you have been working with wood for 10 years,got studies in carpentry,then worked 10 years in metal industry,and now you remember scraps (pun) out of carpentry,so you go to studies again.
I need an single,short book (my attention span is reduced to 0,when it comes to reading-though for my meditation practises,I have been called by name ,,reset" by friends of mine) that will help me remember the basics of arcana.

The things,I mostly seek answer to are:

-Egregoires
-Most out of x-os magic,sigil etc
-Spirits of kabal,and how to summon them
-The astral itself-from the descriptions,of given places,to co-op fanmade stories of meeting in fifth circle of hell.

Thank you,in advantage.

Sidequestion-do you think,that downloading the whole library would be a good idea?

>>19284479
Oh and runes.The runes are needed too.

>>19284071
It's sorta like people who use the "I've been on 4chan longer then you, newfag!" argument, or people that use "kid" as an insult.
Mostly projecting hard to keep from being outed.

>mfw the rituals made by the rich people is true

https://youtu.be/Aoh0uwEze70

w00t? Do you recognize what ritual would that be?

Similar topic to the 'Mage: The Ascension IRL' doc, has anybody compiled all the Stargate docs into one single PDF (Or even a smaller set of PDFs) I don't want to have to DL 90+ files to read about spooky shit.

>>19284214
Definitely not the wrong place to ask.

>>19284464
>doesn't have money for a canning jar, carving utensil, condiments and/or sexual fluids
You can probably re-purpose a jar/boo=ttle, just cleanse it properly.

>>19284521
The text in the video is more or less constantly contradicting what she says. Haven't heard her say "illuminati" once. The video is out of context, and, instead of letting her words speak for themselves, they seek to interpret them to make them fit a narrative. Good job.

>>19284521
>>19284564
People who believe this kinda of garbage are the same people saying "LE EBULL ILLUMINERTY THE EVIDENCE IS IN PLAIN SIGHT GUISE." Any reasonable person can tell the video is EXTREMELY edited. We don't even know what was actually being discussed, and are asked to rely on the captions of the editor as unquestionable truth instead of conjecture. Absolutely retarded.

>>19284577
>>19284564
Not to mention, thread regulars have a copy of all Illuminati rituals, doctrines, and protocols.

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>>19284584
Me included! I don't recall seeing them refer to themselves as "The Brotherhood of The Snake." Did I miss something? AAlso, even if they did, why would they SACRIFICE a snake? The Christians don't sacrifice Jews in honor of Jeebus! (afaik)

>>19284589
Did you seriously watch that video, and the first thought that popped into your head was "Hmm... how compelling and obviously legitimate. Unquestionably so!" ?

>>19284546
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>>19284599
>Anon doesn't know how to take a joke.

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>>19284621
I gotta say, that shit tends to [TRIGGER] me, if only because I have met people irl who think that way, and so do not find it implausible that some people online aren't just trolling.

>>19283378
pretty sure he was just a yogi that had attained many siddhis (what hindus call supernatural powers)

Hey guys...S-Should I go over into that Satanic SackRaFice thread and tell them about all the fresh blood of children and unborn babies we sacrifice over here?

>>19284621
>>19284629
I was gonna say "How retarded do you have to be to hear 'Well of course the Illuminati agent would say they're not real' and think he's being 100% serious." but then I remembered I'm on /x/, where you'll find retards who are completely serious about that.

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>>19284670
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F35yL5xrPlg

>>19284682
I was gonna say something...anything at all, and then I saw your post.

>>19284690
Nigga we have people on this board who unironicly think that Saturn is a giant demon computer that projects the moon as a hologram so that Obama can build a fake Jesus to take over the world.

>>19284711
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/07/colorado-earth-flat-gravity-hoax/

>>19284718
you can't make me read that

>>19284737
>perhaps one out of every five hundred is an Flat Earther
Brb, fukken suicide.

>>19284718
http://www.bodahub.com/does-finland-exist-conspiracy-theory/

>>19284755
Obviously this evidence of the Mendoza Effect.

>>19284753
Ape does it bother you too that being interested in the Occult and weird shit in general gets us lumped together with Flat Earthers by the majority of people?

>>19284074
Have you ever seen a UFO?

>>19284782
Yes, a few.

>>19284775
Sorta. I can't control people's idiocy tho.

>>19284775
That's why you just hush up about it when you're talking to retards imho

>>19284792
Halfway through American Gods, on your recommendation.

Honestly, it's kinda shit, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt since I'm already 50% there. Might as well finish.

>>19284842
>Good Omens was better, imo, and cranks up the comedy instead of getting all stuffy.
>Also, I never recommended American Gods the book, only Anansi Boys. I never finished AG either.

>>19284846
Anansi boys was my shitttt. The only thing I remember about Good Omens was how the demon character was constantly surrounded by all these low-key signs that revealed his nature....what was the only song that would play out of his car stereo? I remember really liking that part. It's been like, 10 years though since I read it. RIP Terry P

>>19284846
Mehhhh.

I just want something to watch when I'm on painkillers, because work ain't happening during that time.

Also I still don't understand the value of ritual magick. After nearly 15 years of occultism and esoteric practice, it's nowhere near as fulfilling and useful as just getting up, doing some work, and focusing on my quality of life.

Also obligatory
>Clean your room.

>>19284074
Just finished watching; not really looking for political commentary. --->>>19283828
>undergone a form of Gnosis
>>19283828
>Just trying to make sense of my experience. It has been half a decade and I feel like I am starting to put things in perspective but still lack the big picture / intent.
>>19284792
>Yes, a few.
I have also seen a UFO but it just looked like a star off in the distance.

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>>19284921
I mean I honestly think that's a valid strategy, if it brings you satisfaction. Zen Buddhism agrees with you. I'd probably do the same if it weren't for the chronic and pervasive dissatisfaction and need for more. Pic of my fridge related

>>19284943
>agnostics are a great source of occult knowledge

>>19284985
it's just a magnet bud

Is psionic phenomena possible?

>>19285099
Yes.

Very rare, but yes.

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>>19283348
is the hanged guy supposed to be Abel?

>>19285102
What do you know about it? Is is something one is born with or trained?

>>19285148
>Dualism
Eyurgh.

Nothing is ever the product of one singular process.

>>19285155
Fair enough. After a cursory glance through the library I noticed there's nothing about this topic. What's your personal opinion Ape? Would it be possible to train yourself to do these things or is the question too broad without more knowledge about me?

>>19285148
CIA documents will shed light on it.

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Grady's Greater Feast tonight.

Q: Which occult school/tradition/whatever is best suited to the solo practitioner, in your opinion?

>>19285410
The lonely road of traditional wiccecraft.

So I've begun to read through some of the books in the Beginner folder in Ape's library and I'm feeling a bit out of my depth. I began with Introduction to Magic by Evola and the Ur Group, and some of the concepts there were beginner-oriented but quite a few seemed geared towards more advanced practitioners. So when I finished that I began Crowley's Magick in Theory and Practice since it was suggested as a starting point to another anon, and now the book is throwing formulas at me from the get go when I barely understand what a formula is in the context of magick.

Am I reading the wrong books, or are there books I should have read before even starting the Beginner material? I know Crowley has mentioned that one should be familiar with Qabalah beforehand?

>>19285712
What is a formula in any context, anon?
A series of encoded operators to the intent of standardizing a result.
The formula for the area of a circle is πr2. Our constant is Pi. Our variable is r, which is squared.

Now. See:
>>19283385
>When the fires of Shin (spirit) descend into matter (YHVH) it produces YHShVH.
Each Hebrew letter is a multivalent symbol. In this context, YHVH is matter, Air, Earth, Fire, Water, where Shin is spirit. Therefore this formula is about:
>Rectifying self/reality
>Evokation
>"Calling down" divinity
>Integration of divinity
>Purification
>Apprehension of the divine.

With this in mind, go back and read the chapter on the formula of the neophyte.

>>19283348
>>19285745
I think it's HUA

>>19282835
Does anyone know how to banish a Kanontsistonties? I live in upstate New York and a friend of mine has been describing something that sounds a lot like one.

>>19285745
I mean I can understand a mathematical formula because it has a clear objective but like...I've only read up to chapter 3 (Haven't seen a formula of the Neophyte yet) and it's giving me a formula for elemental weapons and a formula for the Tetragrammaton which at this point I barely understand the Tetragrammaton or if the elemental weapons means like....a literal sword or club, and if I were to put the formula into practice if I'm supposed to etch the letters into the weapon or....?

Should the book also be labelled as part III of book four? What do parts 1 and 2 deal with?

>>19285858
There is a specific incantation you can utter that should help ward these off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_SwD7RveNE

>>19285935
Do I have to include the available at walgreens part too?

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>>19285896
you could do a lot worse than this page for understanding the underlying nature of the letters leading to the reification of magickal formula:
http://www.billheidrick.com/works/qbl1.htm
just keep in mind everything is recursive symbolism and you'll be fine, the idea of the letters relates to the weapons relates to the formulas relates to the elements relates to the planets and so on and so on

>ape when he talks to his normie coworkers every morning

>>19285962
This is going to be a lot more complex than I'd imagined. I'll read through that page first before I resume with Crowley, thanks

>>19285961
I would substitute the drug store that is closest to the site being haunted, for maximum effect. Understand that CVS, Rite-Aid, and Walgreens are hypostases of the triune Pharmacologos.

>>19285821
It's TAN.
Candle on the skull with peacock feathers is a dead giveaway.

Glad I don't have work in the morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--plFBBV6UY

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>>19286281
Have a rare Chumbley.

>>19283483

http://www.fluland.com/2017/05/03/han-deep-state-robert-ohashi/

>>19286389
https://youtu.be/Wn7gK73uxsM

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>>19286281
Shit
>>19286308
What book is that from? What's the deal with his Tantra lineage anyway?

>>19286389

read this while this was playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdFd3MZkqU

>>19286404
>What's the deal with his Tantra lineage anyway?
One day toward the end of his life, a young man came to visit Crowley.
Crowley was incredibly impressed with the dude.
Instead of offering close instruction as he did with Grant, Crowley told the kid to fuck off to India.

http://www.shivashakti.com/dadaji.htm

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>>19286451
No way! I swear I read an article about this dude a long time ago by a lady who tried to study under him, maybe in a journal related to disinfo? As a recall from the article some villager challenged him to cause it to rain and later a monsoon occurred that wiped out part of the village.

>>19286425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRSkes0Jfp0

>>19286483
Occultists should really start to consider the implications of their de-facto gavelkind.

>Gavelkind ruins EVERYTHING

https://youtu.be/2ItCc9v78ow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7KoymrDiUI

>>19286483

would have been more intimidating if it was a monsoon in Arizona

i read 30 pages of occultic stuff a day or so.

i read 5 hours daily even on work days.

will get it one day finally?
ive nver meditated either

I just started reading about this kind of topics, i just finished the gita, i know this one is very basic so i would like a good recommendation for what would be a good continuation to the gita.
Vishnu sounds cool but i would like to know whats so different from the heaven you experience for worshiping the devas and the eternal bliss you get from devotion to him.
also, do devas die like us when the night of braham starts?

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>>19286509
>Gavelkind ruins EVERYTHING
The Uttara Kaula Tantra transmission was gonna go to Chumbley. There was a dispute and I guess now it's in the hands of the guru of whoever made that LAShTAL post.

The Nath empowerment went to the INO, but was supposed to go to Lokanath.

Lokanath still runs the Ancient and Mystical Order of the Knights of Shambalah.

Once upon a time, after some years of casual facebooking with Lokanath, I sent him a tortured email about the state of my Tantrik knowledge and how to proceed, laying out the extent of my understanding.

He replied that I didn't need initiation. My chains were already loosed. He directed me to some passages on the site that didn't make sense. Then I noticed the illustration.

Pic related is the setup for the ritual space of the Dragon Book of Essex, i.e. the home altar, w/r/t the elemental configuration and the alchemical configuration.

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>>19286561
>Then I noticed the illustration.
Oh yeah, then he swiftly blocked me.
I have no fucking clue why.

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>>19286561
>>19286591
Whoa. What did you mean when you said Chumbley's incorporation of Uttara Kaula Trika is "residual"

Are there practices that would help me grok the Tantric stuff because that is very new for me

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>>19286561

>ritual space

the visual cortex is a spook


>>19286598

edging masturbation without and breath control

also be Indian

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>>19286598
>What did you mean when you said Chumbley's incorporation of Uttara Kaula Trika is "residual"
So in the email I was rambling about the difference between the Trisulbij Mandala and the Tritrisulbij Mandala.

About the only thing Chumbley really KEEPS is the Trident veneration, the structure of the ritual space/year is "off" for the deepest secrets of Abhinava's system.

All of Chumbley's triplicities are Tantrik, rooted in the Trident.

The N, NW, and NE stations are more or less attributed correctly (Will - Lilya Devala, Knowledge - Lilis Zhariel, Action - Yemeloi Lucifera), but otherwise does not follow the subtlety of the UTK Mandala(s).

>>19286561
Like my approach to Chumbley right now is almost entirely Kabbalistic and I know that doing that is pretty limited, I'm doing stuff like checking the "colors" of the rites in Hollowing the Kingdom of Qayin against various scales in 777 and overlaying the letter pairs in Azoetia on the 231 gates (which is a work in progress)

I know that's really limited but I'm not sure where else to start in terms of practice

>>19286607
>Everything is a Spook

thanks Stirner I figured it out already

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>>19286633
>6633
>It's 12 Kaliforms not Ten because I was tired and not thinking.

I cracked it.
I fucking cracked it.
You can place all the Thelemic Witchcraft godforms on the internal ring of Kaliforms while preserving the seven pointed Tritrisula.
Now if I weren't so dog fucking tired.

>>19286638
The color scales are probably more confusing than not for Hallowing purposes.

The 231 gates sounds like it could be fruitful I'd not thought of avenue of analysis though it's rather obvious. I'd been sublimating 231 and Liber Tav into Iyyun-like praxes.

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>>19286648

>You can place all the Thelemic Witchcraft godforms on the internal ring of Kaliforms while preserving the seven pointed Tritrisula.

gee it's almost like the visual cortex does pretty much the same thing no matter where in the world in operates

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>>19286658
>>19286638
Oh if you wanna get a leg up on PRACTICAL tantra, that's a tall order.

Read Ararita, and do the PROPER Star Sapphire a couple of times. That'll give you an idea of the rough objective.

I have a basic Kalipuja whose dhyana mantra can be swapped for the Initiatrix of the UTK, Raktadevi.

When I say "basic" I mean about 40 pages of Sanskrit.

The good news is that the rites are more or less formulaic so if you get the jist of this Kalipuja you can segue into more advanced material.

For Vajrayana...I'd need to know your Dharma needs. As a BASIC STARTER I'd say do the Bon version of Chod that I've got. It's short. It's simple. Most of the concepts are related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr7frMbjtYY

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>>19286591
>Oh yeah, then he swiftly blocked me.
Gotta love the way people try to cultivate mystery in the internet age. Theatrics are omnipresent
>>19286648
>12
>2 in each direction
that would complete the ritual year as per DBoE correct?

>sublimating 231 and Liber Tav into Iyyun-like praxes

thats groovy. One of the reasons I fuck with Chumbley is that he's so relational, like he puts two forms together and then really hones in on the in between place.

>>19286701
That sounds complicated but doable
>do the PROPER Star Sapphire

that's definitely been on my list for a while

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>>19286701
>>19286648
>>19286633
>In the same text, it is stated further that if an aspirant follows regularly the process to pray raktâdevï, he is considered as äcärya (capable of instructing on Kaula) in a month, aspirant in fortnight, putraka (Initiate level: Dearest Son) in a week and samayi (Friend of the Kaula) in four days.
~Tantraloka, 4:63-64

The Dhyana Mantra of Raktadevi:

महाविनोदार्पितमातृचक्र-
वीरेन्द्रकासृग्रसपानसक्ताम् |
रक्तीकृतां च प्रलयात्यये तां
नमामि विश्वाकृतिरक्तकालीम् ||

न चैषा चक्षुषा ग्राह्या न च सर्वेन्द्रियस्थिता |
निर्गुणा निरहङ्कारा रञ्जयेद्विश्वमण्डलम् |
सा कला तु यदुत्पन्ना सा ज्ञेया रक्तकलिका ||

mahāvinodārpitamātṛcakra-
vīrendrakāsṛgrasapānasaktām |
raktīkṛtāṃ ca pralayātyaye tāṃ
namāmi viśvākṛtiraktakālīm ||

na caiṣā cakṣuṣā grāhyā na ca sarvendriyasthitā |
nirguṇā nirahaṅkārā ranjayedviśvamaṇḍalam |
sā kalā tu yadutpannā sā jneyā raktakalikā ||

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>>19286716
>that would complete the ritual year as per DBoE correct?
Nope.
DBoE has sixteen godforms.
>Same as Hevajra ;)

But this can be tinkered with. Gimmie some time to contemplate. My intuition is we can get the 14 godforms on the seven pointed trident. Then we can fold two more into the "hidden space". This has parity with images of Hevajra with fourteen outstretched arms, with a single pair embracing his consort.


>mahāvinodārpitamātṛcakra-
>vīrendrakāsṛgrasapānasaktām
Waaay too advanced for me.

"Highest [?] ?grandmother of the circle? chief of heroes ? of Shakti?"

>raktīkṛtāṃ ca pralayātyaye tāṃ
"?The coming blood? [blood, plus a speculative adverb, like 'yet', or 'already] and the celebration of the fiery dissolution of reality, her"

>namāmi viśvākṛtiraktakālīm
No clue, something about veneration.

>na caiṣā cakṣuṣā grāhyā na ca sarvendriyasthitā
"Naught other than this power of the Eye [? the implication here appears to be the arrow that does not move while striking each target. See Vision and Voice?] and the arising of proper sense."

>nirguṇā nirahaṅkārā ranjayedviśvamaṇḍalam |
"Shiva as the ultimate sense of I, swimming [? allegedly in tantraloka, can't source it, perhaps from Sanskrit commentary?]

>sā kalā tu yadutpannā sā jneyā raktakalikā ||
"He [?maybe lord of time?] though ? he is known via Rakta Kali (Blood Kali).

Pic related is Raktakali for visualization purposes. Emaciated. Black. Ravenous for blood. She's named for literally drinking Raktabija (Blood-seed, every time he bleeds, a copy appears).

>>19286701
>I'd need to know your Dharma needs

The Dalet Gimel portion of Bill H's journal super resonates with me as seeming where I'm at rn
http://www.billheidrick.com/works/roadsun.htm
>5/31/71 e.v.
>>19286736
>Ravenous for blood
>every time he bleeds, a copy appears
Ravenous for blood and psychedelic seems to be my aesthetic with Goddesses recently
>he implication here appears to be the arrow that does not move while striking each target
that which strikes without movement has been a massive theme over the course of my entire spiritual development so I'm stoked about that

>>19286766
>>5/31/71 e.v.
>66

Go read the intro to Hevajra Tantra and when it gets to the bit about the EVAM mantra, pay super close attention and remember the Word of the Neophyte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7H3qGdZGY

>>19286766
Also, I feel like this should go unsaid, but if the phrase "blood seed" didn't immediately register with you as Kala, then you should probably study harder.

>>19286790
>>19286783
https://youtu.be/OmNtb3KUYM4

>>19286795

what is this obscene hindoo maiden screeching

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>>19286783
Will do

First I'm going to go the fuck to bed though

>>19286790
>Kala

oddly I did know that but only because of my step mom's obsession with Ayurvedic medicine. She took me to a practitioner when I was in India and he deduced every single health problem I've ever had down to a T just by reading my pulse.

>>19286795
Lit.

Night Ape

I summoned Ghob today. He is an elemental king. Check him out

how do i start a cult

>>19282835
Which entities are the safest to evoke?

Ok guys so here's the deal.
I dont' believe in any occult stuff, but i find some occult symbols and glyphs very A E S T H E T I C
So I'm wondering, or more like, I wanna know your opinion from your believer side...Is there any chance if I get a symbol tattoed on my skin, the occult stuff that it represents might have an effect on me? Or is volition and knowledge required for it to affect me?

>>19283391
Techniques of high Magick. Save your semen.

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>>19287140
the fact that your questioning it means theyre working on your right now as you think about this issue.

>>19285411
gross

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>when something from the shadow dimension tries to do you harm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPUgjy-Pn-4

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My cousin just died. Is there any ritual worth doing to send him love and good luck on his journey?

>>19287140
I heard some experienced occultists discussing this very thing as a horrible, dangerous idea.

So go ahead, just tattoo the sigils off Sorath and Set on you, it's just imaginary

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Bump.

>>19283348
Hu?

>>19287774
>>19286281
>It's TAN.
>Candle on the skull with peacock feathers is a dead giveaway.

I just refound this fun thing, I'm sure it's been seen here before but

https://nofaithinthehumanrace.com/777/

Clickable 777, let's you sort the tree of life by magician.

ape did you ever get hold of Peering Through the Lattices?

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>>19287820
Neat, thanks anon.

>>19287847
lol the tiny giraffe in that image

Anyone else notice the creator of Spirit Science admitted to raping a girl?

>New Age Hipshit
>Not even once

>>19287831
No.

>>19287866
https://youtu.be/ZVbZbDEPoqM

>>19283987
>Ever heard of the term "armchair occultist"? Look it up because that's what you are.
Well, I consider myself a scholar, not a practitioner, so I suppose that would be apt. I see it more as an anthropological curiosity than a lifestyle. At least, personally.

>>19287884
Wow I need to step my flat-brim game up this dude is next level. also this is a jam.

>>19287909
>also this is a jam
Jack Parrow's the shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEwRxInP0Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VdP5c5BGBo

>>19287906
Get to Work.

>>19287880
Sauce?

>>19287923
>Indigo Children
https://evonews.com/life/2017/jul/10/creator-of-spirit-science-jordan-duchnycz-admits-to-rape-and-blake-dyer-disciple-of-teal-swans-team-blames-survivor/

https://youtu.be/4TpNx707fuo

>>19283378
ask the rose cross

>thread discusses nothing occult

sage

>>19287961
>>thread discusses nothing occult
Are you blind?
Or just illiterate?

>>19287820
>>19287816
>>19287774
>>19287318
>>19287648
>>19286795
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>>19286783
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>>19286658
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>>19286451
>>19285745

>>19287935
> Spirit Science

The other half of the original team became a born again Christian and started "exposing the new age" with a fervor, check it out http://reasonsforjesus.com/the-death-of-spirit-science-metaphysics/

>>19287880
Heh. Can't say I'm surprised.

>>19287985
Absolutely disgusting.

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Do I have to kill a frog or can I just find a dead one?

>>19288087
Physical extraction is preferable.
If one is already in your Path, dead, and intact, go to town, start from the flensing and continue forward.

>>19288087

There's an account of someone finding a dead one and rotting it down for unrelated purposes and like "accidentally" initiating the rite, let me see if I can find it.

>>19288087
>>19288096
Reminder that you need TWO bones:
>Ilium
>Scapula

Hook & Shovel.

>>19288087
http://rootandrock.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-i-accidentally-became-toadwitch.html

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why do i feel like i need someone to start thinking for me

>>19288123
You're intellectually lazy??

I think in the future you'll be able to pay people to take control of your body for weeks at a time, to use their own will power to instill good habits that'll be written into your cortices, and then you can regain control and carry on with your life. Like someone could quit smoking for you, for example, or improve your physical strength by taking you to the gym

>>19288139
right on. thanks. i've already got a little mental body automation. i just don't know what to think about because of what led up to that hahah

>>19282835
Hey NS, Stephen's in the Bhairava thread bringing tidings of worldview eroding Dharma, if you can catch him.

>>19287880
No but I did notice they have incredibly dumb politics

>>19288149
Fuck I'll check it out thanks

>>19285983
Book 4, Part I: Mysticism
Book 4, Part II: Magick
Book 4, Part III: Magick in Theory and Practice
Book 4, Part IV: The Law

So yes, it's a 4 part series essentially. Collectively known as Liber ABA

>>19287023
What methods did you use?

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"E.K. Here appears many thousands of spiritual Creatures, all in white: Now there seemeth one like Michael, (all in red) to stand before them, they all standing in an half Moon compasse behind him."
TFR 398

I'm not going to be able to take many more days of constant notstop synchronicity storms.

>>19288397
What's the deal with that painting of (either Kelley or Dee?) Where it was discovered a circle of skulls around him had been painted over later on? Do you know the story on that?

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>>19288409
Dee and Kelley had a possibly deserved reputation as operative necromancers early in their relationship.

Any reccomendations for books on cryptography?

>>19288414
>>19288417
>John Dee
>Cryptography

https://igw.tuwien.ac.at/peterf/dud_npr/kryptologie_im_16ten_jh/cryptolo.htm

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>>19288414
"Original"

>>19288424
AAAnndd it won't let me post the xrayed version. Let's try again

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>>19288424

>>19287023
>>19288286
Hewwo Pwease?

when i read prometheus rising about a year ago i couldn't make it past the penny exercise, yesterday i thought about the exercise and found 1 € cent on the ground a few seconds later

If someone were to attempt a non-sexual solo version of Star Sapphire, as it has been suggested may possibly be done, does one just trace the unicursal hexagram in place of "Making the Holy Hexagram"?

>>19282835
anybody know anything about potions/ where to start

>>19288576
>potions
Ars Philtron in the Chumbley>CS folder.

>>19288553
Yuh.

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>>19286736

>mahāvinodārpitamātṛcakra-
>vīrendrakāsṛgrasapānasaktām

Fierce {and} injurious downward moving power {of} the Chief of the circle of Mothers of the Great Sameness

(maha - great

avinoda - non-diversion; I translated as sameness

arpita - adj. Dependent on, connected, fastened. Translated as of.

matrcakra - circle of mothers

virendra - chief of the heroes. Translated as chief.

kAsi - adj. hurtful, injurious

Ugra - adj. terrific, furious, fierce.

apAna - downward flowing

zakti - power. Accusative. Probably wrong grammatical form

>raktīkṛtāṃ ca pralayātyaye tāṃ

Created from blood at the end of dissolution

(rakti - f. blood.

krita - f. Accusative. created.

ca - and

pralaya - dissolution

atyaya - m. end, conclusion. Locative singular
tam - f. She. )

>namāmi viśvākṛtiraktakālīm

I bow down to Raktakali, Creator of all things.

(namami - verb nam Present 1st person. I bow

visva - universe, world

krti - creation, manufactoring

Raktakalim - Raktakali. Accusative because verb)


>na caiṣā cakṣuṣā grāhyā na ca sarvendriyasthitā

Neither grasped by this eye nor abiding in all other senses

(na ca - neither..nor

esa - this

caksusa - eye

grahya - from verb grah seize, perceive, hold. To be perceived.

sarva - all

indriya - senses

When sarvendriya - all sensory faculties)

asthita - from verb a - stha, to dwell, abide, inhabit.) Abiding, dwelling

>nirguṇā nirahaṅkārā ranjayedviśvamaṇḍalam |

Without qualities, Selfless, may She be rejoiced by the entire mandala

nirguna - without qualities

nirahankara - without self, selfless

ranjayed - verb ranj, to be excited, to worship, to rejoice. Optative form in Desiderative. A very polite way to ask of something.

visva - all, universe

mandala - circle)

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>sā kalā tu yadutpannā sā jneyā raktakalikā ||

She is Time, She indeed is that which is born, She is to be known as Raktakali

(All Vocative in Third Person. Standard for Sanskrit.

sa - she, female

kalA - time. Makes the most sense

tu - exclamatory word. Indeed

yad - that

utpanna - born, created. produced

jneya - from vern jna, to know. To be known

>>19288624
Id it a terrible idea to experiment with subbing the NOX signs for LVX signs in LRH, GRH, or Bornless One? Does that put you higher up than you want to be for those rites?

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>>19288628
Who. The. Hell. Are. YOU. Kind. Sir?

Lurking this thread and I have literally no idea what is going on xD

>>19288498
God damn it xD

>>19288655
What do you want to know, specifically? There is a Beginner's Folder in the library linked up top.

>>19288662
I suppose I was just looking for a sales pitch. Everything about this subject is interlinked, with history myth, and literature. So it's quite an intense subject to get into :)

So I suppose I was looking for someone to sell it to me, as mentioned in my other thread, in which I was directed here. I'll check out the folder up top though still!

>>19288648
>>19288635
>>19288628
I need sources for leveling my Sanskrit skills.

As you can see they're only about a third as good as they need to be.

>>19288665
We don't proselytize, as a rule.
>>19288667
Hey Ape, would it be a bad idea to put Liber L in hotel drawers, like the Gideons? I certainly wouldn't want to become as obnoxious as them, but it seems like a decent way to give people the opportunity and option to at least read the thing. maybe it would still be too forward, though? I don't like anything that even gives a faint whiff of proselytization.

>>19288679
I called the last person who suggested something similar to me a "fucking idiot".

I don't know you IRL so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Resorting to the tactics of Jack Chick should not be on the table.

>>19288679
How helpful.
I'll just lurk.

>>19288687
I thought the person you said that too wanted to hand out flyers at a truck stop? I mean, I guess it's the same thing. Liber L certainly isn't hard to get one's hands on, anyway. From what I have seen, whatever 'recruiting' tactics are being used by Thelemites in general have not produced very fruitful results. Maybe it's best to let people find it on their own?

>>19288697
I am personally of the opinion that I never want to instruct someone who can be swayed by rhetoric, or "talked into" acceptance of L.

Leaving L out in public places will cause more confusion than it solves.

Liber OZ, though?
Not so much.

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>>19288697
Thelemites!

>>19288706
Augustus Sol Invictus is a joke.
A few years ago he wanted to meet some of the Old Heads of Thelema and was shocked and offended that fifty plus year old academics weren't interested in hookers and blow.

I know the folks who edited his LSD journals. It's like a low rent Chuck Manson rant.

>>19288713
He sounds like a real a-hole, besides all that.

>>19288705
Sounds about right. I intuitively got something out of Liber L when I first read it, and it didn't turn me into any kind of fanatic...but based on how many people I have seen interpret it as "Do whatever ya want, whenever ya want!" and a million other retardations, I suppose only harm could come of it. Sometimes I just expect people will come to the logical and appropriate conclusions, given enough opportunity. Silly me!

>>19284120
>posting in /omg/ and not knowing the elemental formulae
FOR SHAME!

>>19288116
>I did not want to find myself in the same category as other self-professed Toadwitches ("I happily rode a lot of bandwagons until the wrong person got on" - Penn Jillette). But mostly? I didn't want to raped to death by tentacle monsters - and everyone would have you believe this is the only outcome of the The Waters.
What did she mean by this?

>>19288743
>begin to hang head
>remember I'm surrounded by like 40% complete retards
>feel less bad

Like I just hadn't come across the Vav-Shin transformation bit and it's neaaat ok anon why you gotta shame my vibe.

>>19288851
I'm just giving you a hard time. It's really not a transformation though, the Shin descends into tetragrammaton, making pentagrammaton.

>>19288869
Excuse me, it IS *a* transformation, just not of the vau.

>>19284095
rabbi means teacher, due to his mastery of the law, they call him teacher, rabbi

>>19288909
Doesn't it also mean "Great One"?

Any tips for getting into Hinduism?

>>19288924
Yoga Sutras

>>19288924
It depends what you want but I enjoyed this and it's like 8.80 on amazon with prime shipping, used. https://www.amazon.com/Indian-Religions-Historical-Expression-Experience/dp/0814736505

>>19288869
u right i'm retarded anon that explains why it was such a new concept to me, because i just literally read it wrong. I missed that second Vav XD

>>19288851

No, honey. It's 100% retards, including me, you, the demons in the abyss, and the gods in the heavens. We come from nothing, we know nothing, we are nothing, we return to nothing. Just because some other chuclefuck who knew nothing said they know something doesn't mean it's true.

>>19288984
Naa. We all commit error. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and all that. Has anyone experienced, while projecting astrally, a sort of modulation between awareness of physical body and awareness of astral body? Like, almost as if the 'signal' is weakening, or something? I'm not sure what's causing it but I know it's a sign of less-potent projection.

>>19289077
>retards all the way down
lmao weirdly inspirational at this moment in time

>>19289086
You mean like, oscillation between the two?

>>19289102
Yes...It only just happened yesterday...usually there is a definite "I am potently projecting" or "I am impotently lying in asana, not succeeding." This is almost a middle ground between the two, except that I still retain my astral vision. But sometimes things started to appear in 3rd person instead of just 1st. Am not sure what to think.

>>19286783
>word of the Neophyte

I'm assuming you mean the Achad one and not the Motta one?

you can't even spell magic faggot you clearly can't be taken serious on this

>>19289143
Getta Load o' THIS summerphag!

>>19289112
Ok well I just tried to poke you on this with my like "intuitive healer" skill set and this may be unhelpfully vague but you should work with your feet...? I tried to draw a card for you out of my animal oracle deck and I got Frog, which may be because I called you "anon" in my question and accidentally triggered the Pepe egregore / we were just talking about toad bone, but additionally "frog medicine" reminds us to tend to our needs in places that they may be draining us and to resume refreshed on another occassion. This card tells me you're just like worn down and distracted. Do you feel tired? Overloaded? If so, the card says "take a break and allow yourself to bathe in the waters of Frog medicine. This could mean a long, relaxing bath, disconnecting the phone, yelling "stop," or taking in deep, cleansing breaths.
The key thought is to find a way to rid yourself distractions and to replace the mud with clear energy. Then replenish your parched spirit, body, and mind."

Since we've been talking a lot about Buddhist practice, here is a sweet documentary:
https://vimeo.com/223928856

>>19289154
Thanks, anon. I interpret that as a push toward the Toadbone attainment, more than anything(?) But fuck yeah I have been so distracted and exhausted that I got a fucking hotel room last night rather than deal with the shit going on in what used to be my house.

>>19289150
wow you are so le real deal you even need to spell magic retardedly just because of how much of a true faggot you are

Guise, after having *finally* gotten around to previewing The Pychonauts Field Manual (wanted something for my girl that was more along psych-model lines, made western esotericism easier to understand, etc...which is silly because she has more education than me, but can't seem to read Crowley for some reason) ANYWAY...
I think I finally realized why there are so many "DUDE JUST TAKE ACID AND COSPLAY LMAO" memes about Chaos Magick. It's GOTTA be because people read this text, either thinking it's the end-all, be-all, or intending to move on or whatever, but find it more convenient NOT to improve their understanding of the materials Psychonaut deals with. Is this a fair assessment?

>>19289223
Shitty chaotes were a thing before Bluefluke was even fucking born.

>>19289218
If you would go play with your fidget spinner and google-fu (if your autism allows you to multi-task), you wouldn't be here shitposting about things you haven't even attempted to divine the meaning of.
>inb4 GUISE I WAS ONLY *PRETENDING* TO BE AUTISTICALLY RETARDED
Summerfag pls

>>19289226
Ahhh I spent So much time on my investigation though! Wahhhh

>>19289226
>>19289236
So do you think there's no single source it can be attributed to? I mean, shitty Thelemites, Christians, and Satanists have always existed. Why does it seem like shitty Chaotes are a special brand of retarded, when compared to shitty practitioners of other 'systems'?

>>19289230
>still thinks it's necessary to spell shit wrong
it's spelled SNOWFLAKE

>>19289238
Because Chaotes don't even have any Orthodoxy to be pretentious about so when they are pretentious it's extra shitty because it goes so fundamentally against the basis of their own current

>>19289239
>Hey guys, I just popped into this thread
>to tell you how retarded you all are
>Cause you do something different from the way *I* DEMAND it should be
>Therefore, it is ALL OF YOU who think you're special snowflakes

Solid logic, anon-e-moose. I guess you really got our GOAT! How will I ever sleep tonight?

>>19289239
>>19289272
Please stop talking

>>19289268
Interesting. Thanks for your input. I hope it doesn't seem like I have been "shilling" this topic lately, I'm just incredibly interested to get all the different takes on it...especially being that I am potentially setting another person up for either success or failure, based around this system.

>>19289272
>he thinks conventional words are oppressing him
look at the intellect on the wizard over here

>>19289290
>>19289272
>>19289281
>>19289239
Magick with a 'k' is a modern English spelling. Early modern, but modern nonetheless.

>>19289304
sorry I didn't know this was ye olde larppe threade
hark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeTYtggVkY4

>>19289304
http://www.astronargon.us/The%20Word%20of%20the%20Neophyte.htm

thoughts?

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>>19289323
>ye olde larppe threade
That's Late Middle English, friend.

But then I don't expect shitposters to have any sort of linguistic education.

>>19289328
I don't expect people who spell magic incorrectly to achieve any understanding on the matter

>>19289327
Yeah, I'd rather not give PJR pageviews.

I'll say this, for a Mottaite, he's at least got the good sense to use the original Achad configuration.

>>19289290

Hey, anon, I'm terribly sorry about your feelings of inadequacy and sense of being directly persecuted. Maybe you should go over to >>>/b/ and talk to Alice3D, instead of busting in here and projecting all your insecurities on a bunch of anonymous people posting on an Indonesian Cat Milk Cheese Making forum.

>>19289335
Is it Astron Argon or Argenteum Astrum? Or is it both? Sorry for the duality, but not for the ignorance.

>>19289336
>Cat Milk Cheese
https://youtu.be/tFKjE6lg52M

>>19289335
Wait Motta actually *changed* the keyword?
On what fucking basis?

No wonder I've been so confused I hate that shit head more every single day

>>19289345
I think it was Germer, no?

>>19289341
>Astron Argon
^^^

>>19289336
Nothing you said applies, then you blame for false projections. You're a hypocrite, which means your vitriol most likely suits you most.

>>19289350
>>19289345
We don't actually know who changed it.
Motta says he got his configuration from Germer.

>>19289353
Why the hell do so many people call it Astrum Argenteum? I first heard Astron Argon from, I believe, Aquino's CoS histories (or maybe LaVey somewhere).

>>19289360
>"hypocrite"
Lel what Moral Standards have I proclaimed to subscribe to that I have not upheld? Are you *sure* you know what that word means?

>>19289361
I know you don't like PJR but he gives a pretty good argument as to why the Germer key word doesn't make sense

"When I approached my teacher (Ray Eales) about this problem, he scorned me for not accepting the word of the Master, Karl Germer; as he gave it to Motta."

But the Achad one makes actual, deep, sense especially in light of what I'm reading in Hevajra Tantra

>>19289381
>But the Achad one makes actual, deep, sense especially in light of what I'm reading in Hevajra Tantra
Further consider that Crowley's word was meant to be a code for a single cycle of breath, which could be completed without closing the mouth.

Motta's configuration, however, is reliant on a biliabial letter smack in the middle.

>>19289389
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282294296_John_Dee_and_Edward_Kelley_in_Cracow_Identifying_the_House_of_Enochian_Revelations

>>19289376
>capitalizing random words
>emphasizes intellectual abilities in the next sentence
Are you *sure* you're not an insecure overweight faggot

>>19289410
I'm Very Sorry you have problems with people finding ways to Emphasize various Important Statements without the benefit of markdown.

>>19289389
>letter smack in the middle
there is a letter smack in the middle is there not? It just remains "hidden" i.e unvocalized

Time to join this train guys, guide me towards mental visualization, hallucination induction, altered states of mind - all ritual based, idea induced etc - books, titles, videos anything will go for now.

>>19283422
All primary occult texts are cyphers, using ideas for encoding rather than letters

>>19289424
Lol you tried to be ironic but you ended up to actually fail at making a sentence.

>>19289455
>It just remains "hidden" i.e unvocalized
I have some theories about this.
My point remains that as a vowel, even if fully enunciated, it would not close the word.

>>19289410
Well, I am not a "faggot..." I, sir, have sex with whomever I happen to be attracted to, and weigh 140 lbs at 5'8". Nor do I need to randomly talk down to others in order to prop up a false and floundering sense of self-importance. You sir, however, are a faggot of heretofore unimaginable proportions.

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>>19289468
Interesting. I really like what you're doing with Pyramidos/ThroA It's a beautiful ritual that really fell into disrepair as far as I can tell

>>19289482
Please prove some more that you're nothing but a delusional hypocrite

>>19289463
I can't tell ya how much my mind is blown, every day, the more I learn of Qabalah and re-read various scripture.

>>19289468
Would you say Rabbi Kaplan subscribes to the psych model in some ways? Are there any statements attributed to him that say definitively? Because in Sefer Yetzirah, he refers to "Binah and Chokmah Conciousness," and while I recognize that he seems to be using these sefirot as symbolic in this context (i.e. he doesn't seem to be asserting "being in sefira x = just an altered state of consciousness), and then he does seem to assert a belief in the possibility of creating actual physical golems, at least in theory. So anyway, there's a lot of back in forth that makes it difficult for me to divine precisely where he stands on the matter. Thoughts?

Ape what do you think about Osho? It really seems like he knew a lot but he was also kind of nuts and told his followers to commit a (really dumb) bioterror attack. How could a spiritual genius do such a thing

>>19289501
Please prove you know what "Hypocrite" means by answering:
>>19289376
Or are you really THAT shitty at shitposting. GodohChristAlmighty, does your mother know the one area of life in which you showed potential (shitposting, of course) is slowly circling the drain with the rest of her "Coulda, Shoulda, Wouldas"?

>"LE HYPOCRITE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujVMIYzYXg

>>19289492
>I really like what you're doing with Pyramidos/ThroA
Do you have a copy of my script for Liber Pyramidion?

>The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld.

>They fall down before Atmu Harmachis. For His Majesty gave orders to the cycle of his followers. His Majesty ordered to give praise to the Eye, and behold, my flesh he gave it strength, and all my limbs are renewed, as soon as the order came out of the mouth of Ra.

>His glorious Eye rests on its place on His Majesty in this hour of the night. When the fourth hour is accomplished, the world is joyous in the last day of Mechir, for the Majesty of the Eye is in the presence of the cycle of the gods, and His Majesty rises as from the beginning, with the Eye on his head as Ra Atmu.

>>19289515
Lelelelele nigger nigger nigger cancer cunt
https://youtu.be/BXUhfoUJjuQ

>>19289534
The eyes of Shu, Seb, Osiris, Suti, Horus, Menthu, Ptah, Raneheh, Thoth, Chati, Nai, Eternity, Necht, Mert, the land, he who is born by himself. After the computation of the eye has been made in the presence of this god, and when it is full and completed, all these gods are joyous on that day, they who were silent; and behold there is a festival made to every god; and they say:
Hail to thee, praise from Ra, the boatmen tow his boat, Apepi is struck down.
Hail to thee, praise from Ra who causes the form of Kephra to exist;
Hail to thee, praise from Ra, there is joy in him, his enemies are conquered;
Hail to thee, praise from Ra, who has repelled the chiefs of the sons of the rebellion.

>>>To be recited in the 'second month of winter'.

>Note also that the correlation suggested here between the Athenian months and those of the modern (Gregorian) calendar is only loose, and, in some years, might have been out by over a month.

Winter (Χεῖμα)
7 Gamelion (Γαμηλιών) January/February
8 Anthesterion (Ἀνθεστηριών) February/March
9 Elaphebolion (Ἑλαφηβολιών) March/April

>>>Elaphebolion

>The Dionysian Mysteries are believed to have consisted of two sets of rites: the secret rites of initiation and the public rites, or Dionysia. The public rites are believed to be the older of the two. In Athens and classical Attica, the main festivities were held in the month of >>>Elaphebolion (around the time of the spring equinox).

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>>19289540
>While the Athenians celebrated Dionysus in various one-day festivals (including those during the Eleusinian Mysteries), a far older tradition was the two-year cycle where the death and absence of Dionysus (in his aspect of Dionysus Chthonios, Lord of the Underworld) was mourned for a year. During the second year, his resurrection (as Dionysus Bacchus) was celebrated at the Tristeria and other festivals (including one marked by the rising of Sirius). Why this period was adopted is unknown, although it may have reflected a long fermentation period. All the oldest Dionysian rites reflected stages in the wine-production process; only later did the Athenians (and others) synchronise the Bacchic festivities with agricultural seasons.

>A tablet from the reign of First Dynasty King Djer (c. 3000 BC) was conjectured by early Egyptologists to indicate that the Egyptians had already established a link between the heliacal rising of Sirius (Egyptian Sopdet, Greek Σείριος Seirios) and the beginning of the year. However, more recent analysis of the pictorial scene on this tablet has questioned whether it actually refers to Sothis at all. Current knowledge of this period remains a matter more of speculation than of established fact. The Egyptians may have used a luni-solar calendar at an earlier date, with the intercalation of an extra month regulated either by the heliacal rising of Sothis or by the inundation of the fields by the Nile. The first inundation according to the calendar was observed in Egypt's first capital, Memphis, at the same time as the heliacal rising of Sirius. The Egyptian year was divided into the three seasons of akhet (Inundation), peret (Growth - Winter) and shemu (Harvest - Summer).

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbXPD-Gmz5U