Info on first contact protocol

keep going man. these pictures are just Wonderfull.

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>>19169293
can't tell if trolling

Procedures exist for everything you can imagine. We have procedures for invading Canada, for example. People are paid to dream up scenarios and create protocols. None of these are public.
For your scenario and assuming a civilian with an iPhone doesn't get there first:
Secure a perimeter. Secure access routes to the site. Shut down applicable airspace.
Local authorities probably got there first. Debrief them. Obtain their complete cooperation.
Disseminate cover story for the curious: National Guard training, helicopter crash, whatever.
Get your logistics guys on site, determine hazmats, move what you can move, detain who you have to detain, disappear who you have to disappear.
Get updated signed nondisclosure agreements from all participants, keep them monitored, if necessary remind them of their oaths. They take that stuff pretty seriously.
It's pretty simple.
From the prose in your post I think your novel will be terrific. Never give up writing!

To add with respect to layers...
Everything will be need-to-know. There's no secret cabal in control; the President will be notified and the worker bees will spring into action cleaning up the mess and learning what they can learn. Various elements may jealously guard their bureaucratic turf throughout the life-cycle of the event but as long as everyone performs their role professionally the incident will be handled smoothly.
Most participants in the logistics of the event won't even know the interesting details; it's just another test-crash, right? Asking questions doesn't put extra money in the paycheck.

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>>19169592
Thanks for your contribution and encouragement, I just hope I've got the stones to write this thing.

My idea is to have the first few chapters be from the perspective of a scientist that is on call in case of this kind of event happening, I want him to be a biologist and astrophysicist (for several reasons) and also have a wife and kids at home. (a little cliche but I need to have some real grounding for the human perspective in this story, I'm planning for the majority of the book to be recounted in past tense, first person narrative of the alien, with the events of the book recounting his specie's culture and technology, as well as his life story and how he came to crash land on earth

>>19169630
many people don't know the source material for Arrival is humanistic and emotional. it's possible to pull off the sci-fi/human nature combo and do it well and i wish you success.
also /x/ is actually a terrific place to see just how far you can take your ideas. people post ideas here that i would never generate in a thousand years.
this board has no idea how creative it can be. good artists create, great artists steal, right?

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>>19169741
well why I wanted the initial perspective to be grounded in that of a modern human male from america is because the rest of the book will be completely alien and hard to relate to

I agree that /x/ is a breeding ground for the curious imagination, some of the most interesting concepts I've found out about I found here on this board. Also good spoops is good spoops

I was told by my freshman year math teacher that if an alien ever came up to me to draw a Pythagorean triangle. But instead of numbers just draw lines to represent numerals. If the alien has eyes than they'd see that we're intelligent and have some kind of logical mind.

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>>19169969
That's kinda interesting, you'd think any number of things would be able to show them we're intelligent

>>19169120
I'm actually very interested in this topic as well. Here are my thoughts:

The initial response will depend on where the UFO crashed. If it's a rural area with few witnesses, there will be massive press and media censorship similar to what happened when Assange was killed. Aircraft crashes are by default closed to the public so one can expect the site to come under control of the military. Once it's clear that it's an extraterrestrial craft the first military units on scene (the first ones on scene will probably be military; civilian first responders would likely get some kind of bonus and be forced to sign an NDA) will likely contact their commanding officer. This is probably still army or national guard but at some point, likely through air crash response protocols, the FAA and possibly the air force will nominally take charge of the crash scene. All this will be within the first few hours after the crash. Once it's clear beyond reasonable doubt that it's an extraterrestrial crash (e.g., if a wounded alien comes crawling out of the wreckage) then we are down a path that, while likely charted, has not been discussed with civilians.

The presence of a live alien begs the question of the government's existing protocols for such an event, which is where things really turn into guesswork. Some kind of modified FEMA Incident Command protocol will likely be in use. This establishes a clear chain of command, from the people securing the scene on the ground on up. My guess is that this would be under the purview of the general commanding NORAD as this is an airborne intrusion into North American airspace. She (currently Gen. Lori Robinson) would likely report directly to the President. It is possible that along with her deputies she would liaise with a nominally civilian agency (the CIA is technically civilian) who has come up with the contact protocols.

I'll continue this in another post because I don't want to lose what i already wrote

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>>19170190
this is great thanks a lot for your input

>>19170190
If you believe that the US government has had contact with extraterrestrials, which I do, then it follows that there would be protocols in place. The details of those protocols differ slightly based on the answer to the following question:

Are extraterrestrial contacts frequent enough to delegate an entire command structure to their maintenance? (maintenance being logistics, press censorship, etc.)

If these contacts only happen once every few years (or more infrequently) then there is no real need to devote peoples' entire job functions to dealing with that. It's easier to just come up with a standing order (if aliens come, do X) and call it a day, reviewing it every so often. The scenario in the OP is a crash; assuming these contacts involve aircraft, NORAD probably is the lead agency and Gen. Robinson can delegate scrambling, landing spots, crash site management, etc. as she sees fit.

If these contacts happen more frequently (daily to monthly) it is likely that there is a task force devoted to extraterrestrial contacts, regardless of the form of those contacts.

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>>19170237
Let's just say, though, that the aliens are making monthly excursions into American airspace. Let's say that the stories about them disabling nuclear facilities are real, and that such events happen extremely often.

Under those conditions it would be grossly negligent of the military to not come up with a factual report of such events. On-scene protocols (shelter in place, data gathering, radiation and chemical sweeps, scramble aircraft from nearest facilities, press monitoring, etc) would spring from that - Think a lieutenant saying to his men at a nuclear facility "OK, next time you feel the screeching in your teeth, fucking hide because I don't want you to pass out for 4 hours again."

From those factual reports would come not only a blueprint for a military response - scramble F16s or F35s or whatever black project A/C they have available, to give an example - but also a discussion between military leaders regarding the ultimate aims of this potential enemy and how to open a diplomatic line of communication. To me, such a discussion is both extremely compelling and ambiguous. In addition, regardless of the frequency of the contacts, there will be a discussion at some point regarding how to open communications with the aliens. And "Figure out what they want", while important, is not necessarily the top goal.

To expand on this last point, consider several points regarding theory and doctrine of nuclear weapons: an action taken regarding nuclear weapons often has responses 7 or 8 moves down the road, these responses are often on the surface counterintuitive, and actions and responses draw heavily upon institutional memory and standards.

It is possible that, when the protocols were created, the overarching goal was to preserve American sovereignty, and that negotiations should begin on that basis. But reading the protocols 40 years down the road when everybody involved in the initial planning is retired, would this be explicitly stated?

>>19170288
>also a discussion between military leaders regarding the ultimate aims of this potential enemy and how to open a diplomatic line of communication.
Before I continue, it's important for me to modify this statement - military leaders would likely bring in civilian diplomatic leaders, and this discussion would also include American objectives for the opening of contact.

>>19170308
It's getting late so I'll tell you what I think would happen given your scenario in the OP, and then I'll tell you what I think has actually happened in the past.

Let's say with no warning a UFO crashes in rural America with limited (or zero) witnesses. It would probably have been tracked by military or civilian radar, so the crash site is known. FAA is alerted. They probably will draw on the US military for SAR operations because the military can get there first. Military starts their version of ICS. Even if it isn't obviously an extraterrestrial craft, the military would probably realize soon that it's some kind of secret thing and cordon off the area. Civilian access to this point will have been extremely limited. Jet fuels, oxidizers, etc. are present making this a HAZMAT situation. Once it's clear that the A/C is not USMIL this is escalated - not necessarily to NORAD but the civilian leadership in Washington, probably.

At this point you're still going off military A/C crash protocols. But let's say there's a live ayy lmao crawling out of the wreckage. That might change things, but not necessarily as much as you'd think - scene protocols are still in place. Biological protocols also now in place because you don't know what bacteria it carries. No idea how to treat a wounded alien - hope it's kind of like us biologically.

Now the protocols come in. Does the alien have comrades looking for him? Will they start hovering over NYC asking for him back? Is it better to treat him on scene in a medical tent so that you can give him back quickly if and when another UFO shows up? Would treating him outside of hospital necessarily lead to a worse outcome, seeing as how it's totally unfamiliar biology?

Now, the scientist has been delegated as a point of contact in case of this kind of event (cont'd)

>>19169741
I'm writing a book about the 2006 volleyball incident. I got it from that conspiracy iceberg image that's always getting posted.

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>>19170288
>>19170237
>>19170308

In my story this will be the first actual ufo landing on earth in modern history (I might bring in some ancient aliens stuff down the road, who knows. sumerian myths are fascinating). The alien crash in question will occur due to the pilot having to make a blind jump to a nearby oxygen rich planet (earth) because his ship was badly damaged from a violent encounter with a second alien species of instectoid hive-mind creatures (kinda like the buggers from ender's game).

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>>19170358
This is awesome stuff man, it's really helping me get an idea of how to write all this in to make it seem realistic. Thanks very much for your time so far anon

>>19170358
They wouldn't delegate a civilian unless he's either a government contractor or he's ex-mil and heavily involved (read: current security clearance) in government projects. And the fact that they've delegated him means that your existing protocol (a protocol does exist!) involves HAZMAT and biological cleanup.

A live alien is likely a separate protocol, and would probably lead to a few people being tapped to deal with care for the alien, communications, response, etc.

>>19170362
Ah, alright. So given that, the US is going to have to scramble to prepare for a potential conflict with extraterrestrials.

I'm getting pretty exhausted so I don't think I can type up the rest. I might revisit this thread tomorrow, /x/ moves pretty slowly, right?

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>>19170362
The race of the protagonist alien is reptilian and very martial in nature and culture (think krogans but less stupid and less goofy looking, more humanoid with long tails and very fine scales on their faces that resemble skin). Ordinarily they would just squash a newly discovered alien civilization (in this case, that's us) but because of this looming insectoid threat and the human invention of the nuclear warhead (the reptilians only value martial strength of arms, if all they found on earth was artists and philosophers they would crush humanity without a second thought), they attempt to broach a peace with humanity, to coexist and join forces against this insectoid race that has vast numbers and a great many colonized worlds on the outer rim of the milky way

>>19170392
sure sounds good, /x/ does move pretty slow these days so I think this thread should still be up. Thanks for your input anon

>>19170376
No problem bro. One of the things it might be good to remember is that when you're on the ground working a scene, you have no idea what the big picture is. For instance, let's say I'm an EMT and there's a passenger train derailment. The Mass Casualty Incident protocols we follow (through FEMA ICS i think?) are designed to make us function as cogs in a big machine. Was it a terrorist attack? Are other trains crashing all over the country? We don't know, because we're dealing with the task immediately at hand. Your protagonist sounds like he'll be read in on the details but if he's just called out of bed with instructions like "monitor biological activity at this crash site, take level 4 precautions", he won't know the big picture. He might think it's a foreign plane, or something.

This might not be the direction you're going in, but A/C crashes have always been very interesting to me, so I'm very focused on that aspect.

>>19170415
well the scientist will be working in tandem with a linguistics expert in trying to communicate and understand the alien's speech and biology (and the nature of the biological technology that comprises the ufo itself and the alien's suit and equipment) so this scientist will be very in the know as he's already in the chain of people that get contacted and scrambled right away as soon as confirmations goes up the command line that there's a live extraterrestrial that's been secured and contained

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>>19170525
forgot pic

>>19170635

Ah fuck! They hit his Skittles pouch! lol XD

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Okay. So its a safe bet that the ayy lmaos don't speak english or french for that matter. So the initial communication would have to occur with mathematics. At first with rocks and sticks until we can be sure they actually see the same spectrum as us or can see at all. There's a possibility that they would use echolocation like bats or dolphins so 3D objects would be used initially. This use of mathematics and us having to teach each other measurement scales would mean that we would have to use the metric system. Celsius, for example, would be as simple to explain as drawing a picture of a water molecule and putting down a scale from 0 to 100 along with a dash at the current temperature. Depending on how sharp they are (and it is possible that they might not be. they could be survivors of a shipwreck or space pirates that never built anything themselves) this process will take weeks or months before a rudimentary language can be agreed upon.

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>>19170673
Once this is done, further linguistic work would depend on how they perceive the world around them and what they are physically capable of. Vocalization will likely not be an option for various reasons, for example the possibility of echolocation that I mentioned. If that is the case, they may not be able to be heard by our ears. Communication would likely require writing along with hand and arm signals. Who's language will depend on which side is more flexible with learning new stuff. They may very well be brilliant but be so used to learning everything at birth with a hot iron enema or something. Or they may be unable or unwilling to teach us their language. There's no shortage of things that could happen at this stage. What matters above all is that all communication is done as neutrally and unemotionally as possible by both sides to minimize the risk of a dum dum misunderstanding fucking everything up.

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>>19170696
>>19170673
my idea is that the alien already has a translating device that is aboard his ship, but the problem is him trying to explain this to the scientists. How do you think the they would try to communicate and build a word base with him? I think he'll eventually get it across through drawing and gesturing.

The second problem is that the device involves putting a biological wire nerve cluster thing into your ear. That is necessary for the device to work, but your superiors and the brass would naturally be very suspicious of this being some sort of weapon that would spread an airborne virus to all humans and other worst-case scenarios. So the challenge is the scientist really has to understand that this will be a tool to talk to each other, and he has to learn that from gestures the alien makes and drawings the alien draws. he eventually goes against orders late into the night shift and takes the risk.

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goodnight fellas, hope the thread's still up tomorrow. I've got work in the morning so I won't be posting until around 5pm PST

>>19170673
Why is it a safe assumption that they couldn't have studied us, learned our language, or have a translator?

If they make it here on a ship, they are a million years more advanced than us mongrels

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Damn /x/ is a really slow board holy, I suppose I should be thankful

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first contact, lol.
you have core world blood in you.
you think humanity started here ?
wake up this is a back water prison planet controlled by yahwh.

>>19170190
>similar to what happened when Assange was killed
What timeline are you posting from anon?

>>19174998
Not that guy

but the highest timeline ayy

Do your own homework

>>19170118
Actually.. I think I have a nice infographic somewhere.. Please hold

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Here it is!