Atlantis and Lemuria

Watch the cartoon series The Mysterious Cities of Gold.

>>19164105
>Are they real?
Nope
>Are they continents that sunk beneath the waves?
Nope
>Are they old supercontinents or protocontinents?
Nope
>Are they existent continents (North and South America) which were mytholigized?
Nope
>Did they exist while the continents were in their present general positions or during previous tectonic configurations?
Nope
>Were they inhabited? If so, by whom? What can you tell me about these civilizations? Were they ET in origin? Did refugees from the sinking of these continents seed our prehistoric civilizations?
Nope
>Are they just nonsense derived from an analogy Plato made?
Yep

>>19164105
Atlantis Beneath the Ice
by Rand Flem-Ath

This book covers it well. History of civilization much older than taught. Advanced civilizations t0,000 years+ before Greece and Egypt. Significant event around 9600 BC, likely a comet. Crustal displacement theory suggests the earths crust sort of sits atop a molten layer, and when hit it shifted. possible pole shift. Areas once rainy now deserts, areas once frigid now seasonal. Antarctica didn't use to be the south pole. Atlantis is Antarctica. Civilizations wiped out and dispersed. Flood myths in cultures all over the world are a memory of those events. Evidence for this exists around the globe that actually fit and explain things better than the mainstream historical explanation does.

>>19164105
Atlantis is a story about the Minoan civiliation.

Lemuria was a proposed explanation for why lemurs exist in the Old World and the New World (I shit you not)

Most others are flat-out bullshit.

>>19164105
what we know for a fact is that several million km^2 were above sea level before the ice sheets suddenly melted
and there are countless "out of place artefacts" dating back 10s, 100s of thousands, even millions of years, BTFOing mainstream history and archaeology

>>19164105
The sea people were from Western croatia, the Mediterranean Sea was fresh water at the time, opened to the Atlantic and flooded sinking the region

>>19164105
What some fringe archaeology seems to suggest is that there was some kind of culture that predates official known civilizations, supported by similar technology, language, architecture etc. The most official Atlantis reference I think is what Plato said to have heard from Egyptian priests.
Other than that, the most accepted pro-Atlantis theory suggests that it referred to the Minoan civilization, that cot destroyed during a volcanic blast.
Personally, I'd like to believe there's an ancient civ buried under the Anctarctica ice, but I'm probably wrong about that.

Atlantis is an embellished story of the city Tartessoss. It even says that on it's Wikipedia page
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartessos
It was built on a mineral deposit but the ground was unstable and it sunk into the mud. We could literally dig it all up but it's too sloppy to do much digging. I think the word is land subsidence?

>>19164950
>wikipedia

seems legit

My personal belief is that they wasn't a specific places if not more probably
Two Nations like the "Israel"
Some kind of promised land belief between semi nomads fags of the same blood to annoy the early sendentary people's
Proto Jews just becoming a old memory

>>19164105
They were.

Some of them. Atlantis is in the Antarctic.
The rest flew heavenly over the Chinese sea anf the Atlantic.

Protocontinents.

No.

12,000 to 10,000 B.C

Previous Configuration but not by much. The polar shift had not completed yet.

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Atlantis was habitated by a supposed Morning Star. A leader who brought with him much knowledge of advanced technology and civilisation who was part of a group of others who rebelled against another long ago. Below him his sons the Nephellim who were of mixed and varied DNA from many sources. They flew high and below the humans suffered and toiled.

Mu, was controlled by a chosen few where Magi humans, Nephellim and the supposed "Gods" worked in harmony. Their wisdom lead to them warping out of existance without a trace during the fall in 10,000 B.C.

Shamballa is rumoured to still exist hidden beneath the earth and stone. Populated by the wise elders who decided to flee the war torn area above.

Lemuria actually sank beneath the waves. It's destination is thought to be somewhere in the Atlantic. Many souls perished in the war.
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No.

and

Some things are best left burried in the past. There are certain technologies that should not see the light of day. Far too powerful for one entity to muster...

>>19167816
Atlantis ruled the waters, Lemuria the air, Mu the fire and Shamballa the earth.

Such were the times of peace. However...The Morning Star brought with him a curse....shone so brightly did he that he caught the eye of his creator, told him to step down from his seat of hubris as leader of the land AND sea. He fought, but had no might against his cosmic father and the poles twisted. His cities lost power and his magic weakened. Then came the flood. Not to be outdone was The Morning Star though and with the last of his power crashed into the Antarctic Landmass and cacooned himself in ice.

Only The Shamballan Elders know this to this day and a handful of wretched mage scholars.

>>19167858
Cool story bro

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Hyperborea is the land where Aryans originally came from, and it's sign is the black sun.

>>19167816
>>19167858
do you have any maps of what these continents looked like? Why did they live on these continents and not the massive Eurasia-Africa landmass or the Americas?

Are Lemurs named after Lemuria, or is Lemuria named for its large Lemur population??

>>19168318
Lemuria as a theory was created to explain the presence of Lemurs in Madagascar, Africa, and India.

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>>19164105
Graham Hancock sums the whole topic up really good and is able to substantiate it very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyfE3IvDWR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62EkJlZE3jY

>comet impact 12.8k years ago on north american ice shield (younger dryas cataclysm)
>flooding by meltwater
>all coastal areas 20-30m unter the sea
>sun blacks out for 100 years
>plato gives about the same date for sinking of atlantis
>sites like gobleki tepe and gunung padang dated to be much older than conventional archaeology like to talk about (>11k years)

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>>19168014
miss me with that fascist shit nigga

>>19168623
Fascism is the best form of government by far. Human rights are a myth. You are property of the state.

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>>19168651
if its the best form of government, why did the most well known example failed miserably to win a world war ?

>>19168679
Because their leader was a meth head

>>19164105
Atlantis is a fiction invented by Plato, and he never even pretended it was real.

>>19168623
HTAT THUMBNAIL LOOKS LIKE A PIGEON
but
it
was
not

Laurentian looks like....
A LITTLE BABY PIDGEON

>>19164950
that or, mass wasting

>>19164665
Wrong. The origin of the sea peoples is unknown, but they likely came from the eastern portion of the mediterranean.

>>19164950
>it's
>posts mobile link
worst post i've seen today

>>19168826
All the peoples of the Eastern mediterranean had no idea who they were or where they came from, hence them being called "sea peoples." That means they were from anywhere OTHER than the eastern mediterranean.

IMO they were proto-celtics Iberians.

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>>19167816
>>19167858

>>19167858
>Only The Shamballan Elders know this to this day and a handful of wretched mage scholars.

And apparently some neckbeard posting on /x/

>>19168848
Very little records exist of them and there is lots to suggest that, around the time of them attacking Egypt and toppling the Hittite Empire,
they were based around modern day Lebanon.

Doesn't mean they came from there, however, and they were probably a loose coalition of many different mediterranean peoples

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>>19168308
I'm not that guy but I have maps of what the world looked like during the last glacial maximum.

I believe Atlantis was located in the Caribbean and was completely devastated during a global cataylsm that reset civilization.

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>>19168924
These are ancient shorelines during the last ice age

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>>19168924
>>19168929
not this guy but I have pictures of previous tectonic configurations

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>>19168934

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>>19168929
There was also a major megafauna extinction. These are species that had survived previous ice ages but all went extinct around the same time. The ones in Eurasia and Australasia had also survived around our hominid relatives for tens of thousands of years so I don't buy the Kill Theory

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>>19168943
Kill Theory?

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>>19168944
>Kill Theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_extinction_event#Hunting_hypothesis

>>19168929
any civilization builds near water, rivers, lakes, oceans if these places existed on the ancient coastlines then by consequence they would be lost when the world changed.

Keep in mind the same thing is about to happen our magnetosphere is weakening rapidly. The Geomagnetic storm we just received on the 16th wasn't even an M class and blew right through our magnetic field, doubled back and hit us from behind.
The Fluctuations recorded where astonishing.

(no proof but i swear that night as i was watching my compass, north moved 45 degrees.)

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>>19168924
>Plato had records of ancients caribbean civilizations

>>19168983
Plato was referencing an already ancient myth which was generally known.

>>19167858
Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Mu attacked. Only the Morning Star, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.

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This shit is going to get weird. How can an civilization simply disappear without a trace? Imagine this civilization was different from our own, they praticed sustainable growth and respected nature unlike our civilization with exploding population growth and mass extinctions. Their civilization was centered on coastal plains and islands with a very large urban population and almost non-existent rural population, the same direction our own civlization is headed.

They existed for millenia and were well within their Digital Age so there would be no paper trail, no books, no need for libraries, since they can teach and gain information digitally, something our own civilization is transforming into. But this would also make them critically vunerable if they ever lost their infrastructure. No elecritity = no knowledge pool to rebuild civilization.

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>>19169106
And like us, few of them practiced agriculture and the agriculture they did pratice relied on industrial techniques making the vast majority of them wholly dependent on commerce to feed themselves, like ourselves. Among the people who survived the cataclysm, most would have starved to death in the weeks following. A few would have etched out an existence through savaging as hunter-gatherers and would have passed down orally tales of the cataclysm.

The few structures that survived the cataclysm would disappear from decay and scavanged for material.

>>19169088
there is SOME truth to the 4 elements
AS at there base form it is Water (liquid) Earth (solid) Fire (Energy) and Air (gas)

>>19165835
Your English teacher from two-thousand and late called and said shut the fuck up

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>>19168623
the kolovrat or the black sun is a pagan symbol and has nothing to do with fascism
your hyperboreaphobia will not be tolerated here
/x/ is a board of peace

>>19164592
And I'm pretty sure Mu was essentially "Well the Pacific is so huge, there must have been SOMETHING here!"

>>19164592
there was, New Zealand was once a continent.

>>19168620
Graham is doubtlessly on point, leaves plenty of room to speculate, yet always sets you on the right path
I read the books, recommend them

>>19169837
Agreed

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OP I I'd start with looking at Maya and Sumerian creation stories. The Maya speak of a city in the East that they came from by sea called atlán, Sumer from the West. I believe it is the same place.

Also, the art at golbekli tepe (11,000 years old) seems to back up the comet theory some other anon posted here. The dates line up.

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>>19170081

WE WUZ MAGI N SHEEIT

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>>19170097
Yup, even the mainstream picked up the Göbekli Tepe comet connection a few weeks ago.

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the Azores Islands, which is the best theory imho. I thought this was more commonly known.

>Descriptions & supposed location checks out.
>Huge crack under the sea visible via google earth together with the missing land.
>Attached picture is the first ever gravitational map. That spot is a massive gravitational anomaly.
>RH- blood spread along the coastlines there.
>Ancient RH- Basque people, Berbers & Gaunche (Canary) said they came from there.
>Odd artefacts on the Azores.
>Supposed sunken pyramid off the coast (maybe a hoax/misident.).

Etc.

>>19170287
Replying to myself cause newfag.

I've recommend checking out Robert Sepehr. Odd dude with similar views to Graham Hancock, makes great documentaries on his three yt channels. Pretty aryan-centric, but in an objective way.

Atlantis :
https://youtu.be/WhM5lvLa11c

Lemuria:
https://youtu.be/vU08VJ1PPfY

Mu:
https://youtu.be/QxMTsVf7G6Q

Ainu chick claimed as waifu, HANDS OFF.

>>19168848
or they came from the black sea region or even Italy

>>19169111
even the hardiest stone structures are very difficult to identify after so many thousand years

and 10 000 is just one date, since now know that anatomically modern humans have existed for over 300 000 years that's a long LONG time for something to appear and vanish under sheets of ice.
if something existed before the last ice age, or even during it, it would have been wiped clean afterward

>>19169113
Did you catch the Avatar reference?>>19169088

>>19168696
>Allowing yourself to become the property of madmen and drug addicts

>>19168620
Gobekli tepe and gunung padang. Is becoming accepted. I think we just need to let the old generation of archeologists to die and for a younger more open minded bunch to look into these thing. Then again who wants to go out on a leg and risk their future and credibility chasing a fairytale?

>>19168875
>probably a loose coalition
I remember reading about some super old iberian-celts that used to be buried with their gold and shit and had slaves working for them
http://www.americeltic.net/celtic-origins
Celtic golden age date 10 000 BC. Its strange more shit like this isn't mainstream

>>19169106
>>19169111
>>19170544

Randall Carlson does a good job explaining how the immense weight of massive glaciation like the hundreds of tons covering Antarctica can crush and wipe away any evidence of ancient civilizations as well as massive flooding. People also forget about how weathering by the elements also contributes to the lose of whatever less could have been left behind.
You've got a good imagination and idea
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfdl7y-blE

Atlantis is a story told by Plato at a symposium (classical drinking party) when everyone was telling stories on the theme of love. Considering that Plato was a bit of a troll like all classical philosophers, he would probably be fapping to the knowledge of how many people think it's real.

>>19164105
I don't think they existed. Or if a place like them did exist, the true nature of that place was so distorted that we wouldn't know if we stumbled over them. They just seem to be a general warning. That if you become too corrupt and decadent, even the most powerful and strong empire can fall from within.

They even seem structured like a morality tale and not something meant to be biographical.

>>19170744
Morality tales last longer than history. Look at Aesop, or the Torah and Bible.

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https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_atlantida.htm

>>19164592
Lemurs only exist on Madagascar though

>>19172477
No they don't.

>>19172477
>>19172641
He's wrong about the new world but right in general. There are no lemurs in the new world, only what are called "new world monkeys" which are monkeys with prehensile tales and slightly different noses.

Lemuria was proposed to explain the existence of lemur populations around the Indian ocean, in Africa, Madagascar, India, and some other places.

>>19168620
>>19170601
Even Wikipedia accepts the impact hypothesis as more likely than a volcanic cause for the beginning of the Younger Dryas now. Nanodiamonds of a certain type are found at only two boundary layers - 65MYA (Cretaceous kablooie) and ~10,800 BC (Younger Dryas). This suggests both were caused by huge fucking comets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas#Impact_hypothesis

>http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=Atlantis

>>19173254
Das goed. I hope people like Randall Carlson and such get credit for pushing more people to look into this

>>19170736
This is bullshit, if you actually look at what Plato wrote on Atlantis he explicitly states that it isn't some mythical fairy tale.

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>>19173493
>>19173493

>>19170736
It was Critias you prick, Plato was the author.

>>19173543
It actually was repeated several times in the dialogues of Timaeus and Critias that it was apparently actual history. The trouble is, it makes no sense given the time period or location. Unless those are inaccurate.

The best chance for its reality is the Minoan civilization, which held influences throughout the Mediterranean, had the geology and quite possibly zoology described, and even plumbing.

The only thing I'm not sure about is if it ever came to war between them and Athens, which would solidify its place in the dialogues.

>>19173566
>it makes no sense given the time period or location. Unless those are inaccurate.

What location and time period are given?

>>19170368
maybe 20 seconds in
>"This map shows the coastlines during the Antediluvian, or Pre-Flood, time..."

No, it does not. It's just a topographical map of the modern North Atlantic - sea level in this picture is just when the light green / teal turns light blue. Please refer to the video of glacial maximum coastlines I've posted, and you will see it's very different from a giant landmass along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which is the "crack" by the Azores and is not the result of a cataclysm but sea-floor spreading.

The only places the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, or rather any associated features, has emerged from the ocean (to my knowledge, at least, in the past millions of years) have been at localized volcanic hotspots such as Iceland or the Azores. Outside of the mantle plume which has pushed it up volcanically to form Iceland, the Ridge itself has never been a terrestrial feature.

There is an uncertainty about the exact shape and extent of shorelines during the Last Glacial Maximum, but not nearly to the point that the islands of the Azores could even connect, let alone form a continent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_wLmpkJ6Fw&t=25s

For reference, the sea level shown in the video seems to be around 125 meters below present. Sea ice isn't shown, but would likely extend the 'walkable' terrain from modern Newfoundland to Britain.

>>19173566
Ive heard several times that the melting of the ice caps some 1300 correlates with Platos Atlantis though. Never bothered to look it up though. Here's some fun stuff though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
_Peoples its believed the sea people caused the Minoans to abandon their city at some time and run for the mountains
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-fall-of-the-minoans/61/
Also the Minoans as you said could possible take Atlantis's place but then the timelines are way to distant for a flood. Though you don't need a flood to destroy a nation with water https://www.livescience.com/1170-towering-ancient-tsunami-devastated-mediterranean.html

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>>19173566
I can't vouch for the validity of this information, hopefully a anon who knows more about ancient texts can comment on it. BUT Plato wasn't the only ancient writer who commented on the twin pillars that told the story of Atlantis found in the Temple of Sais. Crantor, a third century BC traveling philosopher, talked about seeing them in his 'Beginnings or Glimpses of Vanished Civilizations,' And Manetho, an Egyptian chronicler from the thrid century AD, commented on seeing the pillars in his 'Corpus Hermeticum.'

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>>19173633
>No, it does not. It's just a topographical map of the modern North Atlantic -

not the guy you are replying to but I have the maps your are talking about, I'll post them.

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>>19173797
I found a timeline of ancient writers who wrote of Atlantis. There were many.

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Timeline.html

>>19164105
There was obviously some sort of antideluvian civilization. Both the Bible and the Epic of Gilgamesh seem to suggest as much. Not really sure what these civilizations were like though.

>>19173940
Atlantis was only noted in like two of them. The rest are just stories about islands or continents that sunk into the sea which there are tons of that have in the thousands of years. You can't say all of these elude to Atlantis.

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>>19173633
Fair enough. Just because there's a big landmass there underwater, doesn't necessarily imply that this area ever has been above water.

But the Ridge doesn't have to be caused by the cataclysm, but maybe the (localized) cataclysm had something to do with the ridge, Plato did talk about earthquakes. I find that gravitational anomaly curious.

I've seen plenty of different sea-level maps. The spots I'm pretty certain about are the coast of South India (actual structures found off the coast where the Indus Valley Civilization was), Ramas Bridge connection Kerala & Sri Lanka, New Zealand was much bigger & Indonesia wasn't an Archipelago before imho.

The supporting evidence makes me keep my mind open to the Azores theory.

Platos description would be a match. The Azores lie exactly west of the Straight of Gibraltar, which I think is 'the Pillars of Hercules', considering how it's the only way out of the Mediterranean Sea, and Plato talked about the Mediterranean Sea just being an imposter Ocean, nothing compared to the real thing.

But yeah Sepehr isn't flawless. Odd choice of stock footage sometimes (Pillars of Hercules = LOTR footage), and sometimes factually incorrect info. But I still think he's onto something with much of his thinking. His videos does serve the purpose of being entertaining.

>>19175673
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Flood Myths are nearly universal.
https://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

>>19169106
they simply died of boredom
no chalanges boring life, no challenges
they died of boredom that's all

>>19176654
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=swe3EOKCbFI

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>>19176726
again with the space jews

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>>19176779
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE

>>19168924
You should get a book called "Atlantis" by John Michael Greer. There is a torrent with a copy floating around.

>>19168014
>>>/pol/

>>19164950
Well, this is actually the correct answer.

>>19176871
Tartessos was not a city but an empire... God, no one read properly or what? There have been archeologist in Cadiz and Huelva and they've found a lot of Tartessos things but no Atlantis itself. Tartessos is called to be the west part of the 7th outter ring of Atlantis...

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>>19176801
You convinced me, I want to join Mormonism.
Are my wives going to be supplied or do I need to catch my own?

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>>19164178

>The Mysterious Cities of Gold

My nigga!

>>19176924
you remind me of the Duke.
He is the only other person who knows that.

>>19176863
You stupid motherfucker.

>>19176912
http://www.lifeaftermormonism.net/m/discussion?id=2425233%3ATopic%3A135437
>Most of you former Mormon women probably don't know that your fathers and grandfathers believed that not only would they have sex with other women in the Celestial Kingdom, they would also be having sex with their most beautiful spirit -daughters, to produce Saviors for the fallen worlds, which fall after they are created (like this one did )
http://universe.byu.edu/2015/10/20/ratio-imbalance-more-mormon-women-than-men1/
>The gender gap in Utah’s Mormon population has widened since 1990, when the female-to-male gender ratio was 52-to-48. In 2008, the gender ratio changed to 60-to-40
Better hope your a Chad cause the difficulty just went up

>>19176980
I'm already over this whole Mormonism thing.

>>19164516

This

>>19164105
>Atlantis
The fictional setting for two dialogues (Timaeus and Critias) written by Plato, with the moral of the whole thing being "power corrupts." The story was later hijacked by new agers like Ignatius Donnelly and eventually became the modern Atlantis myth, sometimes with shit like it being ruled by Thoth and populated by Space Jews thrown in.

>Lemuria
No evidence to suggest it actually existed.

>>19164950
Tarter sauce?

>>19173566
>It actually was repeated several times in the dialogues of Timaeus and Critias that it was apparently actual history
And most people take it to mean "it's actual history within this fictional setting."

>>19167858
STFU, you're copying from a Nickelodeon show.

>>19164950
This guy knows what's up

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See pic, compare to OP pic.

If you want to learn the truth about Atlantic and Lemuria, read Helena Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine", specifically the sections dealing with occult history and root races. Also check out Rudolf Steiners books, specifically the ones dealing with Theosophy, Anthroposophy, occult pre-history, etc.

>>19180629
Huh?
>>19180810
Give us a lil run down on what to expect. I don't wanna waste my time reading something useless