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So I have been doing meditation recently and have been encountering strange results.

When I was around 18 I did a lot of meditation and I had this belief that I was stripping away the "fake" parts of myself to access my true inner mind. When I did these exercises "I" started speaking without having any conscious thoughts. The words coming out of my mouth were not my own but who I believed at the time was my "true self." I had a notebook that I wrote down everything that "my inner self" said after every session (I have since lost the notebook as that was years ago). The general attitude of the voice was very stoic, calm and had some very good insights, at least, from what I can remember. I also allowed it to "take control" from time to time and let it write in the notebook.
>I can get into this more if anyone wants

This leads to where I am today.

Recently I have begun meditation again, but I have been encountering very off putting results. I have been attempting to do the same thing, essentially giving my voice over to my "inner self," but this time it's nothing like the previous encounters. This one is very aggressive. Not angry, just...idk. When I let it speak it always wants to look in the mirror. Always. It smiles. It always smiles. And its eyes don't look right. My skin is crawling just typing this out. Its voice is always raspy and rough.

The reason I am just now trying to find someone, anyone to talk about this with is last night I had a dream. I was standing in the bathroom looking in the mirror, where it likes to be, and it started talking and moving strangely in the mirror. In person I can always regain control but in the dream I could not. The eyes went all white and then little black irises began to form. They eyes became bloodshot but instead of red veins they were black. I can't remember but I think it said, "This is mine now"
>Please guys I need some answers
PS: Someone told me this was related to chaos magic?
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>>19144101
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>>19144160
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I might be able to help
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>>19144185
You are in control of your own mental thoughts unless you have schizophrenia or whichever other mental disorder (medication can help you!). Maybe you tapped into the Tesla model of subconscious which we all share and holds all information (vague explanation) and perhaps were not prepared for it and a lot of people theorize entities can enter your consciousness (such that the Goetia are different sections of your own brain), which may be possible or impossible ... depending on what you believe. Follow your will, stay strong mentally (unless you're schizo then I am sorry). LBRP is often recommended so: http://www.jwmt.org/v1n0/LBRParticle.htm. You could also read into a lot of Jung, Eastern Philosphy, and whatever chaos magick literature (I prefer Crowley, John Dee, and Leary) then draw your own conclusions on what this could possibly mean. But,I doubt anyone on this board will be able to tell you exactly what is occurring.

Hell, I personally would recommend going deeper into meditation without fear, without ego with just self and "facing your demons" head on. There is only one true God.
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>>19144223
Same poster. Send this info in an email to [email protected]
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>>19144238
Sorry about the brain cysts.
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>>19144225
Also, alcohol brings it out easier. It comes out only when I am alone. I'm not sure if I want to go deeper until I have a better idea on what it is...
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>>19144263
Alcohol is theorized to bring out our mammalian self, I see the trivium as mammalian brain, reptilian nervous system, and then spiritual consciousness. Leary believes there are conduits in the brain that can be activated to learn more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-circuit_model_of_consciousness. Reading the literature and drawing your own conclusions is essential no one can tell you what you're experiencing, you may be possessed as that could be your own reality, through evocation. Although, if you have not preformed any such rites then it may be impossible. Honestly, if I were you I'd gain access to shrooms, lsd, dmt and meditate it away. Maybe even the LBRP or https://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/hex-notes. The main thing is that your own reality is your perception of what it is, so if you are possessed let's say, this can manipulate your reality and what you believe therefore you must be stoic and face it IN MY OPINION in order to understand than you can conquer it. However, if you're not really versed in literature on the subject I would start by researching more than what I can provide for you.
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>>19144263
Even being here and detailing this gives whatever it may be strength, meditation is a very powerful tool that maybe you should utilize and leave this board and face the entity on its own or speak to the guy who gave you his email; however, please be weary because people can also draw power from you if you follow their instructions.
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>>19144287
Triumvirate* computer science snuck into my brain there.
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>>19144323
Thanks for the help man... although I'd like to put this out there
>IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAD ANY EXPERIENCES LIKE THIS PLEASE TELL ME
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>>19144328
Consider two paths. In the first, this is you. Are there any things in your life that you regret or that make you very angry? Things that may injure your self confidence? This may be you trying to communicate that anger to yourself in a way that is ignorant of your wariness.

The second path, this may be an outside spirit ignorant of you entirely. In this case, banishing and warding rituals may help you be rid of it, but communication with it may befriend it.

All spirits can be reasoned with, but many that concern themselves with this reality are ignorant.
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>>19144402
All things to consider, thank you for your input and suggestions.
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>>19144101
It is the ghost of Adolf Hitler, that is why you chose rhat ridicculously large .gif of the nazi black sun. Somaeone on your Mothers side of your Ahnen was named Schickelgruber.
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>>19144101
yea you're giving a being access rights.
that's what you were doing before but it was a different being (though still malevolent since it was controlling you).

stop giving them access rights, idiot.
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Your higher self also has a lower self. Karma determines if you hear the angel or demon on your shoulder. They're both the same thing at the end of the day. Think of your decisions as a feedback loop. Shit in, shit out, good stuff in, good stuff out.
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>>19144101

A demon is trying to possess you. You need to change your life, fast.
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>>19144101
Do you lucid dream? I've heard lucid dreaming, meditation, out of body experimenting can lead to possessions and spirits being attracted to you.

Wear some garlic around your neck
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>>19144857
why would the garlic stop anything.

I'd be more inclined to believe some kind of huge EM generator would be more effective.
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Stop watching anal porn or look at an anus ever. The "ring" of LOTR, the horror movies and of Saturn is exactly that, the anus.

I swear, try it. I was being mean and had these opposite thoughts and it stopped when I stopped watching anal porn, specifically. That shit controls you.
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>>19144101
>>19144101
Okay, first off- that being is not your higher self. I'm surprised you're letting it come through you at all.

The being you used to channel and the one that comes through now are not the same being. This should be pretty clear.

If you no longer wish to have this being in your life, do not allow it. Revoke permission for it to use your body. Easy. If you don't feel empowered you can call on jesus or whoever you see as a powerful being that will help you.

If you want a purer connection, call your higher self/oversoul/subconscious/love into your being when you are ready to channel.

You can also search your energy field and remove any negative beings there by disallowing them to be there. They may be in your field because they represent unhealed parts of your being.
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>>19144263
alcohol is a way for other beings to enter into the human form and more often than not these are very negative beings. It makes you into a tool (literally).

Plant based mind altering substances are more likely to be helpful, especially when taken with respect and gratitude
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>>19144857
I do lucid dream

>>19146099
I let it come through because the last one I let through was very helpful and I felt it was "enlightened"
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>>19144720
I thought you had to do some sort of intentional ritual to do that?
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>>19146253
so then allow only enlightened beings to come through you. If you open up your body/mind to anything you have no idea what will come through.
You may end up on the news as some guy that killed his whole family with a kitchen knife.

I guess the point is, choose carefully what comes through you. The intentions of the being you have been allowing in are not pure. If you let it take over your body, it's actions will create karma that you will then be living through. It's your choice
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>>19144101
The Chaos Gods are in a fit right now, OP.
Don't worry about it.
And don't worry about your highest self either. What you are seeing is the final obstacle stopping you from reaching the true "self"
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>>19146253
Sometimes the spirits we encounter are helpful to us, as we are their projects. Sometimes, we are the ones helpful to them, as they are our projects. Just because its there, doesn't mean its some deep purpose or elaborate plan. Sometimes shit happens and we have to make the best of it. Try to act in a loving a calm manner when dealing with uncomfortable disturbing shit, and deal the best you can. Try to see the blessing in whatever you encounter, you are 100% in it, living with spirit and evolving yourself. Try to grow and overcome any challenges and distill the wisdom from the situations you find yourself in. By no means, will this be the last difficult entity you encounter, try your best to make as strong a push as possible to free yourself from the limitations that are placed upon you.
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