18 y/o Freemason

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>>19138035
Not a Freemason but it seems you don't have the qualities they are looking for with the biggest one bieng commitment.
Lost your chance forever pal. But there are other societies and sex cults out there, you just have to do a lot of networking.

Damn it OP there was no room with an orb ! Only Trump gets to touch the orb

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>>19138035
I left as well OP. Maybe for different reasons, but I'm always curious if I'm actually welcome d back.

Most members always say to me "feel free to come back anytime". But I'm not sure I want to.

>>19138035
>Does anyone know what the fuck happened in that room?
Chamber of Reflection. It's where new members change into the ceremonial attire and fill out their philosophical statement while they wait for the lodge to open and start the degree.

Are you a member or not, to have not known that?

>>19138923
>but I'm always curious if I'm actually welcome d back.
Usually, yes. You'd probably have to pay back dues, though. Because unless you tell them you're demitting, they have to keep paying for you.

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>>19138035
>Big Guy
>Architecture degree

>>19139108
I'm gonna question that anon - that is the preparation room - the chamber of reflection is Knight Templar

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>>19139592
>- that is the preparation room - the chamber of reflection is Knight Templar
Same thing. KTs use a CoR as well. Rose Croix does too, but they call it a Chamber of Death. Guess the French like to be edgy.

>>19139626
The chamber of reflection is much different then the preparation room - it has the skull and rooster drawing and all that shit - it's not the same thing

>>19139670
Most places don't have room for them to be separate. So yea, they wind up being the same thing. Or do you mean the cloak room?

>>19139701
I'm mean the 1st part of the Knight Templar ritual takes place in the Chamber of reflection - it's a room with a skull and A drawing of a rooster and memento mori and a hour glass - it's not the blue lodge preparation room - totally different

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i have a manual from the free masons that was found in an old rotting barn about to be torn down. the book has been open to the elements for years. the leather binding crumbles when the book is read. a lot of odd stuff in that book. like how to use the abra cadabra pyramid to write messages and hidden chapters of masonry and even lodges that only exist so that members can go there in times of threat. i'll post some pics from the book. and just to be honest op. leaving the masons was a good thing. they made you a member and then criticized you for continuing your education. let them be. if you want to join a group that actually does something worthwhile, join the odd fellows.

>>19138035
There is nothing that is evil about Freemasonry - it's actually esoteric Christianity if you "get it" if you are a nihilist its probably not the thing for you - I went all the way thru York rite and kind got disenfranchised with the members to haven't been in over a year - there is a lot of politics at the grand Lodge level that kinda made me over it. It's pretty much an out of date social club and most probably 99% members don't understand the meaning of the symbolism of the degrees

>>19139825
This is a pretty old book anon neat find

>>19139827
Wow I know exactly what this is - it's from A book of marks - the dates go back way farther than i thought they would - this is for the mark master degree in what's called chapter - this comes after blue lodge

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i also have a commandery from the knights templar from 1886

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I gonna call nonsense on this last sentence -it was good until that

>>19139866
this book is legit and what you are seeing is straight from the book.

>>19139868
This seems like a mix of masonry with general occultism - definitely written after aliester Crowley's time

>>19139892
Neat

>>19139901
thank you. i found this at a transfer station about 8 years ago.

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Here is the sword I got in commandery

>>19139909
absolutely beautiful.

>>19139909
are you playing oblivion? Is this real fucking life?

It's from a back in the day mason who died and left it to the lodge - the blade has intricate carvings on it of the crusades

>>19139918
The sword is part of the Templar attire - you have to wear it just like a blue lodge mason wears an apron

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Some of what's on the blade

i sent an email of my commandery to a local lodge and to be honest i have been thinking about attending a meeting to see how it is, many of them wanted the 1883 commandery.

Personally I think the important degrees are Entered apprentice, master mason, mark master, royal arch, and knight Templar. - they all blew my mind a little bit - but endlessly paying dues after that just to have a bunch of old dudes think I was "too occult" started to bore me

i met an old mason who is still in and he told me that you can essentially gain degrees by how much you donate along with your dues. he said that some people pay close to $1500 a month just to hold a degree.

>>19138035
There was a demon or otherwise negative entity there (sulphur smell + cold + bad thoughts)

Who do you thinks "enlightens" those dudes? They who choose the easy way of finding out the secrets of existence from someone else's information instead of making the choice to live life themselves and subject themselves to the suffering and the truths??

>>19138035
>after taking a 500ug and acheiving "5th dimensional enlightenment". I was basically just pure happiness and love for 3 weeks. Absoluetly incredible but eventually wore off to a state of understanding and love without the euphoric happiness.
Thats a fancy way to say you used drugs

>>19140045
simplified cultural perspective

>>19140057
I'm not doubting the spiritual impact of certain drugs but I also dont doubt that this was just OP using drugs

>>19139996
That sounds way off but my full dues at Templar were about $500 a year

>>19139780
>I'm mean the 1st part of the Knight Templar ritual takes place in the Chamber of reflection - it's a room with a skull and A drawing of a rooster and memento mori and a hour glass
Whut. You described the Craft CoR. I'm not sure what KT CoRs you're describing there, but in neither QLD, English, nor Scottish Rite do we use one like that. Just a goblet of wine and some bread. Haven't even seen the Yanks do it that way.

>>19139812
>if you want to join a group that actually does something worthwhile, join the odd fellows.
Man, i respect the OFs, but even they wouldn't say that since public insurance came about.
Certainly an interesting and unique book, btw.

do you have a masonic bible?
if yes, can you post some of the egyptian depictions from it?

>>19139996
>you can essentially gain degrees by how much you donate along with your dues. he said that some people pay close to $1500 a month just to hold a degree.
Sounds like he was in a fake lodge. There are joining fees in the realm of $20-300, then yearly dues are $50-400. But if you want to join any appendant degrees, they have little to no joining fee, and much smaller yearly dues because they have fewer meetings.
But fake lodges which pretend to be Prince Hall or LDH and the like fleece people in such a way.

>>19140112
Blimey, why? Did your preceptory have it's own building, and that building was in Manhattan or something? Even the gents who have Commandaries in W23rd St. aren't anything approaching that. They'd never get members.

>>19140124
Everything I'm saying is accurate at least in my state -I'm not gonna give away the rest of the ritual but its more than you describe

>>19138923
I want to join! I emailed them but they never responded.

>>19140177
Which state?

>>19140180
Phone calls are better. Especially to Grand Lodge more than private lodges.

>>19140183
Why would I be an anon and say what state I'm in? - lests just say one of them

>>19140189
I wasn't asking for your license number. Just that i've visited most jurisdictions in Australia, and quite a few in the USA and UK.

>>19140196
I highly doubt it varries much state to state - what state doesn't have a chamber of reflection for KT ?

>>19140247
In Aus? I can safely say QLD, NSW, Vic, Tas, and SA. Haven't been to WA.
And that's under both English (native) and Scottish jurisdiction, which we're all heading closer back to after NSW folded.

>>19140253
I received the order of knight Templar at Holy Grail Commandery #70 - I'll say that

>>19140262
Means nothing to me, bro. Would have preferred you said state instead of preceptory and #. But i guess by saying commandery, ya'll are located in the USA, so it's quite a hodgepodge under GEKT. But i've nay seen a CoR in NY, CT, CA, PN, OR, and RI.

>>19140268
Its literally the First thing that comes up when you Google it.... Its the only one

>>19140274
Fair enough. Haven't been to OH at all, let alone on KT business. I'll ask Jason Mitchell about the things you fratres do.

>>19138035
This is fucking LARP. You have to be at least 21 to join the masons in most places, and 19 in the rest. Nice try OP

>>19140306
>You have to be at least 21 to join the masons in most places, and 19 in the rest.
18 in most places. 21 in a few, but even in those 18 is fine if you're a lewis or in a university lodge. Never heard of 19, but i guess it's possible.

>>19138035
>>19140306
Oh and also 500 micrograms is around 2-4 tabs. Quite the transcendental trip you had there, buddy. I know people who have taken 30 and been less retarded about it afterwards than you. Quit jerking yourself off, you're making it reek of summer in here.

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>>19138035

Consider yourself lucky you got bounced. Swearing oaths is serious business. Masonry is evil, behind the old duffers they keep around as a front. Satan is the worst boss ever. Once they think you are one of them, there is no escape. They run everything in our society, so your life will be hell if you pissed them off.

>>19139812
Could you post the page where the book shows the lodges that are for safety?

>>19138070
Other societies and cults like what/whom?

Care to elaborate on some of them?

>>19139932
man templars get all the cool shit

>>19141389
We also have to wear a tunic, arming cap, and mantle over our dinner suits. Which is fine until summer rolls around.

>>19140112
how much was the initiation?

bump for safety pages of lodges

My job has strong ties with masonry. I plan to be a mason later. But for now it's too much time and money.
Can't wait for those pedo ogries.

>>19142169
*orgies

>>19139884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ENZcAcLbk

scan the rest them pages and post them sweet goodies

>>19142174
*ogres

>>19141408
I think $150 but that was for knight of Malta, Knight of the red Cross, and Knight Templar - the commandery degrees

>>19143583
*shrek's meaty ogre cock

>>19143669
Bliey. That included uniform and arms, right?

>>19143696
No

>>19143714
Then what was the money for?

>>19143736
Its an initation fee - upmkeep on masonic temples is expensive - property tax - sometimes lease payments for the building - gas bill, electric bill, food costs... How do you think that stuff gets paid ? - that's my masons pay yearly dues also

>>19144161
>Its an initation fee
No, i get that. I've just never heard of an appendant body charging so much. Our induction fees (so named to separate them from the initiation fee) usually just covers regalia, ritual book, and patents. Sometimes the first year's dues are added. And food is usually by subscription or on the night.

>>19144322
Well chapter was like 30 bucks and council was like $25 but Templar was more than blue lodge for me - everywhere is different the masonic temple there is a very expensive building I thing it was valued at 7million dollars and it's 101 years old so there is a lot of maintaining the building costs

>>19139932
do you learn to fight with it?

What is the purpose of the mason's, for real. I've always found them interesting but I've never really understood what their whole end game was about. It just seems like a occultism based secret handshake club for old rich white guys.

>>19144395
Weird. But that's GEKT as a whole to us here.

>>19144436
Everyone has to do drills, but it's nothing more than you'd see in the military nowadays. Always wanted my preceptory do do actual fencing, but the avg. age is a bit high. Trying to build support for a new one where all the younger lads can get together, though.

>>19144436
No its used for "the modes of recognition" for the degrees - which at that point are technically referred to as orders - Knignth Templar for instance is called order of the temple technically

Aight. 500 ug of what ?

>>19138035
>grandfathers brother use to be grand master
>went and worked with the UN in the usa for 2 years make just over 250k in the late 80's
>grandpa calls him goat rider and makes jokes about over the top handshakes constantly
>asked him once to tell me his grandmaster secrets, arsehole wouldnt tell me shit

>>19145760
>asked him once to tell me his grandmaster secrets, arsehole wouldnt tell me shit
Protip: He told you one, arsehole. And he probably wasn't GM.

So real talk now

Is getting in the deal if you're seeking nothing more than understanding ?

I dont care about all the material bonus you get

>>19146522
You don't get any material bonuses

>>19138035
>Is freemasonry worth investing myself in?
I say what are you looking for there to get out of it personally. There is more good in investing and working on your self.
>I had a really bad feeling about that temple.
Listen to your feeling, they are yours indicators. People can sense with feeling energy of places. Be where you feel good. Don't live in fear, live in freedom, be free anon.

Sulfer is usually associated with demons. If you would have touched the orb, you would have absorbed it's powers. Why didn't you touch it?