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SS Occultism: The Ahnenerbe and the Black Order

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Recently i decided to read some stuff about the mystical current inside Nazi germany. I didn't know there could be all that kind of esoteric stuff behind that ideology. I knew that they were working on some super secret weapons, like the famous Die Glocke, or their UFO program (like it's being discussed right now in another thread), but not that there was a religious cult behind it.
Apparently Hitler had some visions, and in particulary during ww1, he was in an Hospital when he had this vision where someone told him to get out of the place, and some instants later a granade exploded in that place. After this event, he realized that he was special, that it couldn't be a coincidence, that he was alive because he had a mission to complete. This led him to develop a curiosity on mystical / esoteric stuff, but he wasn't for sure the only one who showed interests in the occult.
Himmler, after hitler took the power, was selected to lead the Schutzstaffel (SS), a paramilitary force at the service of the Nazional Socialist party, and in 1935 founded the Anhnenerbe division. Himmler was even more fascinated by mysticism and esoteric stuff, and the purpouse of this new division was to investigate the origins of arian race, through various speditions among archeological sites and to the research of famous ''holy'' objects, such as the Holy grail or the Longinus. The all theory behind the arian race wasn't simply low-key racism, but was basically part of a religion, where they thought that the arian race could even came from another planet, that they were the descendants of a superior race which once colonized the planet and kinda ''lost'' its power by mixing with other ''inferior'' races. (CONTINUED)
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>>19109590

The Black Order was a cult inside the SS, where Himmler was still in charge, where there were real initiation rituals, in which Hitler was worshipped like a messiah (basically considered a second jesus). Also they would have met periodically each year, and performed sessions where they all meditate and even make experiments about using the force of the mind to make someone confess the truth.

What do you guys think about all this stuff? Do you think they were completely insane, or the nazis were actually on something?
What i wrote is just a simple brief summary of stuff that you can easily find on internet, but yet i don't see many people talk about this stuff in paritcular.
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>>19109592
>Do you think they were completely insane, or the nazis were actually on something?
Combination of insane and misled. There would have been something to it, had it been anything whatsoever legitimate. But the myth of the Aryans and all of that shit was a modern fiction, and had no place in genuine occult research.

And I don't think any religious belief can ever justify the mass slaughter of people.
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>>19109590
I think that if time travel is possible, then Hitler must be one of the most likely targets in the last century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler

I imagine that if it's possible at all, there's a specific office dedicated specifically to preventing cranky garage tinkerers who want to go back in time to "Kill Hitler" without understanding recursive temporal mechanics, and that this is the source of many of the bizarre coincidences relating to Hitler's seemingly miraculous escapes; the probability that he survived is always 100%, because the motivation to go back in time to "Kill Hitler" is the historical fact that he wasn't assassinated in the first place.

Can't unstrap a bootstrap paradox that is the cause of its own unstrapping, but you can certainly fail to, repeatedly and miraculously.
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>>19109590

Hitler had a pretty strong sense of clairvoyance and destiny. That hospital incident isn't the only recorded incident where he narrowly avoided death; it was a recurring theme through his WW1 tour.

Another instance was when he was sitting around with a group of his countrymen and they were eating lunch together. Suddenly a strong feeling told him to be somewhere else, so he got up and walked off only to have an artillery shell land where he was just sitting, killing everyone but him.

This can be found in Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny by Stolfi. If you read it it examines Hitler more as a messiah figure or a prophet of some sort rather an a typical politician; could be useful for understanding the Black Order above.
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>>19109701
Mass slaughter has been debunked countless times. Just doesn't make economic nor mechanical sense
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>>19109701
You should go watch The Greatest Story Never Told
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>>19109590
Is the occultism really new to anyone? The swastika itself is a symbol that has pervaded many different cultures since at least the indus valley civilization

Himmler was obsessed with the Oera Linda book too, as well as anything that has to do with where (((aryan))) people come from really. If you have one group of people that is crazy into their ancestry and where they come from, and believe that they descend from a powerful ancient race, they're going to look into all this

The one thing they had wrong was that it was largely german instead of white europa- those who descended from the neaderthals and all the original peoples of europe
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