Nazigermanies UFO Program

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Intredasting

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>>19108291
I know this is an /x/ tier thread, but I still wish they would thaw up their UFOs in Antarctica and come back to save us from the plague of shitskins.

ADOLF, WHY HAVE YOU LEFT US?!?

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http://www.luft46.com/lippisch/lip13a.html
> Dr. Alexander Lippisch designed this ramjet powered interceptor in late 1944, much of the research coming from his work on the DM-1 test glider (see below). The wings were sharply swept back at 60 degrees, and there was a single large fin and rudder in which the cockpit was located. The ramjet was fed by a circular intake that protruded from the nose, and exhausted beneath the vertical fin at the rear. Research in the DVL high-speed windtunnel indicated that the P.13a had outstanding stability up to the maximum tested speed of Mach 2.6, and no unfavorable characteristics in the subsonic range. A liquid fueled rocket motor was planned for takeoff and to get the aircraft to ramjet operating speed.Since fuel was in short supply by this stage in the war, powdered coal was to be used in the ramjet.
>Max. Speed: 1650 km/h (1025 mph)

pic related is page 91 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view


>>19108293
>ADOLF, WHY HAVE YOU LEFT US?!?
they first need people to get redpilled and see what the kikes are doing to us. if they come now they will just be seen as oppressors and evil nazi racists and would have to fight the people they want to save. wether nazis are still around or not the best course of action is handing out redpills

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>>19108295
the pic

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Oh Look its this bullshit again.

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This thread is now /x/
Something about die glocke
>The so called Bell itself is another aspect of history shrouded in disinformation. I maintain on another of my websites that this was a spherical Tokamak style particle accelerator possibly used to transmute Thorium 232 into Uranium 233 for the Nazi Atomic weapons program. When Argentina created it's own nuclear program in 1947, the first laboratory was established at an Argentine air base in Cordoba. This was targeted by a clandestine British bomb attack. This attack forced the nuclear project to relocate to remote Lake Nahuel Huapei, close to the Nazi expatriate town of Barriloche. The Bell device destroyed at Cordoba was the same device offloaded from the Ju 390 at El Palomar used by Dr Ronald Richter's laboratory. Information that the Bell was a particle accelerator comes in part from the 1956 job application by Dr Ronald Richter to work for the US Air Force. A job application which apparently was so sensitive that it remained classified by America's USAF & NSA until 1999.

This flight to Argentina challenges historians who argue there was only ever one Ju 390 flying. The first Ju 390 aircraft was left derelict at Dassau airfield in November 1944 whilst a second aircraft continued to be flown, mentioned, or sighted by several individuals during 1945.

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>>19108297
>>19108294
>>19108292
while those crafts indeed are pretty advanced already, those arent the ones im talking about

>>19108299
https://sites.google.com/site/junkersju390/home
source

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some day, you will hear about us, again, our fire still burns

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pic related page 88 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view
note how it states some engines around just breaking down as reported with many UFO sightings that all kinds of technology just stop working

>>19108299
there is still the stuff with the kecksburg acorn looking almost exactly like the glocke though.

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>>19108303
>some random UFO in 1957
>must be Nazis from Antarctica

where is the connection retard?

and no assumptions are not proof.

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>>19108304
also
>OP gets BTFO in every thread
>always comes back shilling his theory that got no proofs and is made out of easily debunked stuff

was it autism?

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>>19108304
the connection is at the POW who wittnessed the same phenomenom in germany during WW2. but of course you wouldnt realize that achmed

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>>19108306
and where is the proof said UFO was manned by Nazis?

oh right there is none and you pulled it all out of your ass.

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hehe moved to /bant/

you guys looking for some /x/pills?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb18kkVlRh4

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>>19108307
the document was never intended to say that those were nazis, but to show that the nazis back then worked on that same technology which was later seen in the US. wether those were nazis or not is discussable however this document states that these UFOs are not from the US
page 32 of https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view

>>19108310
Everyone and their moms know the US had UFO technology in 1947 thanks to stupid ayy lmaos crash landing in roswell.

>but muh Nazi technology
they couldn't even build proper working Tiger tanks.

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>>19108311
rosswell was more likely nazis than aliens. it probably was just easier to explain there were aliens crashed than nazis in SS uniforms 2 years after the nazis were "completely destroyed"

>>19108312
a collage of faked photographs is not considered proof

and yes Roswell was Aliens.
all the Roswell Proof says it aliens.

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It would be nice to think that there are NS German hidden bases and towns in South America and Antarctica and such. All this time working on super science to retake Germany as they increase their population.

>>19108314
yea apparently they sit there in their frozen shithole eating ice and penguin shit.

If the Nazi UFOs were real they would have used them to Win WW2, but they didn't and that because it didn't exist.

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gives one some sense of hope

>>19108316
was meant to >>19108314

>>19108316
Adamski literally claimed to have had contact with Aliens from Mars and Venus.

His pictures are fake and his storys were bullshit.

>>19108312
So the nazi/german scientist's suddenly forgot all about these saucers, after they were claimed by both USA and USSR?

>>19108315

They could do it if they set up secret bases in South America and had 70 years to advance designs of u-boats and flying aircraft. Maybe they have decided to wait until their scientists figure out how to send messages back in time so they can't lose this time.

>>19108320
this sounds absolutely retarded

so where are they hiding?
is it antarctica?
is it the hollow earth?
is it the moon?

where are those Nazis in their UFOs?
why didn't they use the Haunebus to safe the Führer?
Why didn't they use Haunebus to Kill Stalin and his Generals?

why can't conpiracy retards never get their storys straight?

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>>19108319
maybe they didnt get those scientist who worked on those project. quite a lot made it to argentina.
Mengele for example fled to brazil and continued his research there apparently. the village in which he took cover has the highest birthrate of twins in the world, and now look how they all look (pic related)

an anon mentioned he read that german scientists from project paperclip were still communicating with each other and people outside the country.in argentina where many nazis fled to is San Carlos de Bariloche. this place had a lot of germans and even a plastic surgery clinic which could be used to distort peoples appearence so they arent tracked down easily and can lead a normal live. georg anton pöch is rumord to be hitlers new personality.
the nazis from paperclip that were put into secret agencies could have covered for both, the communication, and the creation of new personalities.

maybe the scientist just stayed loyal to germany and didnt spit out the secrets and played dumb and just fed the authorities some breadcrumps.

adolf... get the vimanas.

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>>19108322
ah yes so Mengele flew with a Haunebu to argentina to get his face fixed, then he made a lot of twins.
then he sat into his haunebu and flew into the hollow earth to throw a party with the Lizard People

this is what retards believe nowadays?

hell even Aliens make more sense than this bullshit.

>>19108321

In South America would be my guess. Their bases would be mostly underground but their citizens would either live in small self sufficient villages or more likely regular villages and towns off the beaten trail.

They probably didn't have working UFOs in numbers or refinement to do any good for the war effort, but they could have kept working at it until they have come up with the super advanced kinds reported over the decades.

Who is to say they didn't save the Fuhrer.

Jesus when talking about the fled Nazis, it sounds like you are talking about Fallout's Enclave.

>>19108324
you act like it isnt an accepted fact that mengele fled to a brazillian village which (((coincidently))) has the highest rate of twinbirths in the world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/4307262/Nazi-angel-of-death-Josef-Mengele-created-twin-town-in-Brazil.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604223/Inside-Brazils-Twin-Land-C-ndido-God-Nazi-experiment.html

>>19108325
but according to the OP they had an entire Fleet of Haunebus, Glocken and Vrils.

why was the 3rd Reich not putting all ressources in this Wunderwaffe instead of shit like V1 & V2 and Königstigers?
answer: because they never had that technology and never had any flying Saucers.

>>19108327
but did he use a Haunebu to get there?

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>>19108328
where did i say they had an entire fleet? they had some, but not enough to win an entire war and supress multiple opposing military forces all around the world.
also then what about the news article and the FBI documents of wittnessreports saying otherwise.

by the way its pretty obviously you are just shilling by creating strawmen all the time, but you keep bumping the thread and cause some discussion so i dont even mind

>>19108329
thanks for the info so far. so if the nazis still exists what is their plan and where do they get food supplies?

>>19108329
Who cares about the other poster. There isn't enough evidence for any proof of this stuff but I'm interested in hearing what people have to say about it.

They have the shit arguments because they take anything anyone says as literal fact where that isn't what anyone was doing.

>>19108329

Where'd this come from, this picture? Also how much is a house in Bariloche. Should I start learning Spanish.

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>>19108329
>20+ available
>not enough to kill Soviet High command

Neger bitte

>also then what about the news article and the FBI documents of wittnessreports saying otherwise.
So where did they confirm Nazis in Haunebus exactly?

>by the way its pretty obviously you are just shilling
I'm not shilling I'm laughing about your retarded ass and debunk your retarded bullshit with every post.

if someone here is a shill then it is you because you keep posting the same copypasta replys and spam the board for fucking months with it pretending its all Facts.

>"oh please believe my retarded conspiracy that I pulled out of my ass"
>"look at these pictures of UFOs, there is Nazis 100% inside but no proofs sry"

and of course
>lets jus wait til all are redpilled so based nazis from hollow earth come and rescue us from Merkel

LOL

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>>19108330
well, from how i see it they either live in argentina where they could sustain themselves like everyone else, or inside the hollow earth where according to the legends already exists some advanced civilization which might have aided the nazis.

Pic related are instructions on how to get to Agartha/Hollowearth via Submarine and were released by the KGB (at least all sources claim so and i didnt find any sources debunking any of it)

This guy (Wilhelm Landig) was in the SS and talks about the warfare in antarctica. Among other stuff he talks about a "nuketest" where they detonated a nuke in the air, but in reality it was a nuclear attack on the nazibase in Antarctica. He only let the video get oublished after his death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA23BVO79WY
https://archive.org/stream/InterviewWithMr.WilhelmLandig/Interview%20with%20Mr.%20Wilhelm%20Landig_djvu.txt
A transscipt of the interview for the non-german anons

Admiral Byrd, who led multiple expeditions to Antarctica including Operation Highjump and deepfreeze and talks about a land "as big as the United States, never seen by a human being before on the other side of the southpole". I will post pictures which supposedly are maps of Agartha down the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A

maybe they are gone/dead already who knows

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>>19108302

those women
>omg

btw im involved with xenos too, I hope the vril ladies are able to get away from this place again, I hear that life on earth these last 80 years has not been good to them

>>19108333

Wouldn't they have to find the high command? And what if they were shot down, then the Soviets would have gotten UFO technology. And what is the point of even taking out the high command when they only had these saucers at war's end, assuming the UFOs were fully worked out.

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>>19108334
>>19108330
There are cultures from all around the world talking of blonde/red haired, blue eyed people with white skin that came over the sea and brought civilization, including the sumerians. Where did those come from when the sumerians where the first, and why are the people discribed always the same if they were just made up?
The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki. The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own. The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created the first civilization and ruled in the early time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc.
The nordic gods, thor, odin, all blond and blue eyed, and (((coincidently))) asgard is on a map that supposedly shows the inner part of the earth
Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out something (((they))) absolutely fear which is the reason (((they))) try to destroy whites so furiously, more than any other ethnicities.
Later on Hitler went to antarctica, created New Swabia and again a lot of cultures speak about a realm beneath the earth, like shangri la for example, and civilization is said to exist there as well.
Did Hitler find out that the whites, or at least those people who spreaded knowledge (which may have nothing to do with whites today) came from the inner earth, the biblical paradise, and from there spread their knowledge with others. Is this why (((they))) want to get rid completely of the white people?
Now these whites maybe have nothing to do with the whites of today, they could be the fallen angels of the bible, the annunaki of the Sumerians or the gods of the atztecs, but finding out where those came from would be devastating for (((their))) narrative

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>>19108330
>>19108337
Another interesting thing is that "Paradise" in the bible originally came from the word meaning "walled enclosure" which would be pretty much fitting to the inner earth.
the hopi indians, also have the swastika. and their legends involve humanity coming from out of a hole on earth, and during the end of the 4th world/cycle (i think it was the 4th) when the flood hit (whch probably was the same the bible mentioned as well as many others cultures) other people came out of the earth, the ant-friends or ant people, brought them underground and ensured their survival until the earth above is habitable again. further more. further more the word "anu" means for the hopi indians "ant" and naki "friend" while the sumerian gods were called anunaki, so probably those were the same.
however from what i found the description of the ant people doesnt really fit, they seem humanoid but not human. but maybe there are multiple races living in hollow earth living peacefully there together. sumerians and hopi also used the swastika

>>19108336
if they managed to build 20+ of them then it wouldn't have been a a problem to use them to win the war.

How hard could it be to just zip over moscow and drop some firebombs on the Kreml?

How hard would it have been to zap over to Washington and Firebomb the White House?

How Hard would it have been with a Haunebu to zap over to London and firebomb churchills fat ass?

If Nazis were desperate enough for the Volkssturm but not desperate enough to do this, this can only mean the Nazi UFOs never even existed.

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>>19108312
>>19108313
>>19108311
The problem as usual is its the jew divide and conquer strategy. Its neither one or the other, but both at the same time.

roswell was grey ayylamos, that wasnt for the americans, that was a gift to the shadow government and they were expecting it

another kind of ayylamos were helping the germans, including those vril women

sheer luck is all that stopped the nazis from winning the war - a couple manufacturing plants got bombed by accident and that happened to be where they was building the parts for the saucers and bells.

a couple more months of that and allied airpower over europe would have ground to a halt with alot of planes and bombers just falling out of the sky

>>19108339
>>19108340

they didnt use them properly and there werent as many of them as you'd think

production was set to increase when it got smashed

it was too little too late, but the knowledge was sound - they had it working just fine and were starting to go into refinement phase

>>19108340
oh look more bullshit without sources or any kind of proof.

the biggest secret is that the US or the Deep State that controls the US has figured out Free Energy and whatever Tesla was working on.
there is even proof for that.

everything else is disinfo bullshit.

>>19108339

How would that win the war. It's not like if Churchill and them all died the armies would just shrug and leave Europe.

Big meme which morons think is true. The real shit was their rocket program.

>>19108343
Show of Power.

If you have it, use it.

We did use the V2 because we had it and because it was actually existing, unlike wannabe flying saucers.

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>>19108332
allegedly recovered from allied forces, but i wasnt able to find a definite source. however the adamski photograph matches the Haunebu II plan at least

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We postin' retarded Nazi designs?

>>19108346
>has energybeam weapon
>can't even liberate Stalingrad
>can't zip over and grill churchill

Shit tier as it can get.

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Coal-powered fighter

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by the way, i made a discord for people interested in this
https://discord.me/anufor
Password: /pol/isalwaysright
everyone who doesnt spam around is welcome.

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i do believe the UFO tech is ancient technology. for example the hinuds have something in their legends called "virmana" which essentially is a flying saucer, and at times even a flying castle or city even. now what could that principle be? the tibetians have legends about them lifting heavy rocks with the help of music, singing and sound.
http://www.rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm
>The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high.
Some accounts tell that the pyramids were build in a similar fashion. Now i agree this sounds pretty ridiculous, but then there is this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRA7m1KEGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K8zs-KSitc
indeed it sounds like it underlies another principle than the story of the tibetians, but there were stories about levitating stuff with sound, and now we can actually do that. so maybe there is more to the legends than we care to believe. and there are quite a few legends that turned out to be real or at least have
Interestingly this plan of the Vril Saucer has under number 1 mentioned "glocke" which translates to "bell". is this what makes the Saucer fly?
They fly either through this, or manipulating the magnetic field i believe.
in general i believe a lot of that (ancient) alien stuff comes only from thinking we are able to accomplish much less than we are actually capable of

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>>19108354
yes the nazis were humming inside the haunbu and made it fly to antarctica in the hollow earth

unfortunately Göring was too fat to fit inside and they had to leave him back with the führer and everyone else in Nazi High Command.

>"Hey Adolf wanna fly with the haunebu to our secret base?"
>"nah m8 I wait for the russians and kill myself"

so much for this retarded story.

>>19108355
again, a neat strawmen you got there. also you dont really believe the "hitler killed himself" story, do you?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment

if you believe that you probably also believe they got bin laden despite there being no proof whatsoever

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>>19108356
No shekels today

>https://theguardian com/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment
https://archive.is/HW1cW

>>19108356
>Hitler's teeth were so bad — and uniquely bad — that his teeth alone made it possible to identify his corpse. The state of his teeth might also explain why everybody complained about Hitler's oral malodor.

yup hes dead

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>>19108357
my bad, thanks

>>19108359
during the losing phase of ww2 did Germany make any military mistakes that make no sense like sending a tank group to death for no reason? Why didn't they actually use the UFO crafts as a weapon?

>>19108360
because it never existed and is a disinfo campaign to distract from the ayy lmaos.

I saw UFOs back in 2009 and I can tell you the shit is out of this world, I always laugh when normies think 3 bright orange orbs doing loops at Mach 10 in the sky is just an airplane or a candle on a balloon.

Hitler if you are reading this please go on a world tour, we need you more than ever.

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>>19108358
nice source you got there. and of course he is dead, but he didnt die in berlin through suicide.

>>19108360
well, maybe the saucers werent ready for combat yet. the documents all say they would be operational at the and of 44-46.
or he realized that most people bought the propaganda against the nazis meaning he would have to fight not only military but also civillians afterwards and retreating and waiting until the time is right could spare a lot of bloodshed.
but i can only make assumptions about the motives

>>19108361
do you have info on the aliens then or do you just counter everything the OP says?

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>>19108297

haha wow this totally isnt a psyop

>>19108363
>or he realized that most people bought the propaganda against the nazis meaning he would have to fight not only military but also civillians afterwards and retreating and waiting until the time is right could spare a lot of bloodshed.
didnt think of that but could be plausable. people still believe the holocaust with no evidence and actual proof it was faked

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>>19108363
here

>>19108364
what would you consider proof for that?

>>19108368
it sucks theres no way to prove anything

>>19108369
Just look at the "biggest" UFO sightings.
Some crafts were so Huge, no way it was build here on earth by human hands.

>>19108370
so what do you consider to be your best personal proof and why you believe aliens are visiting earth? ive been looking for proof of that for a long time and ive never seen anything 100% convincing

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>>19108323

>>19108368
and from when is that article? what is the paper it was published in? it totally couldnt be just propaganda to show how the nazis were utterly obliterated.

>>19108371
>All major historic holy sites (pyramids, easter island etc) are build on a 100km wide strip that goes around the globe
>daily UFO sightings nowadays and some even in good quality
>that one incident over alaska where the jap captain saw a HUGE fucking craft (was in the 1980s) (was never explained what it was)
>HUGE alien ships that move around underwater making deep trenches in the seabed

>>19108373
Just google it

found it here
http://wiki2.benecke.com/index.php?title=2003_AIR:_Hitler%C2%B4s_Skull_%26_Teeth

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>>19108374
doesnt mean they are extraterrastrial >>19108337 >>19108338
could be those living inside the earth.

also i cant find any other source on that article

>>19108319
The Nazi scientists became our NASA. Operation Paperclip.

>>19108375
nope its aliums 100% and they come from outer space, in the ISS livefeed you can see them sometimes enter our atmospehere before NASA cucks Shut it down.

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And about this one?

>>19108376
I'd say only through that operation and Roswell happening Humans were even able to reverse engineer the Alien crafts and build their own.
like TR-3B or however the fuck you want to call it.

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pic related made by the USS trepang, a submarine in arctic water in 1971

>>19108377
again, what makes you think those are aliens? those could also be terrastrial crafts leaving earth.
i dont doubt there are aliens around, some of what we think are aliens are probably demons though and the other way around. hell, there are probably even demons the aliens brought with them around. but aliens is far to heavily shilled to be the real coverup.

>>19108375
does anyone have a question about PaRDeS?
I am an oldfag rabbi, I'd be happy to clear that up a bit.

Ex Nazi bamboozles Argentine nuclear science department https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huemul_Project

>>19108291
Keck'ed

>>19108381
just spit out everything you have schlomo. i would be thankfull

>>19108384
I'd need a bit more framing in order for it to be useful.

Essentially there is a method of analysing the Torah which results in multiple cohesive layers of meaning that are independently existent but wholly separate in their interpretation.

This is pretty useful for learning how to understand the message in the Torah behind the often seemingly implausible literal Peshat interpretation. However, it is not possible to understand the higher layers of analysis without having a foundation in the lower ones—this trend of layered exegesis is effectively the current state of the art of jewish apologetics, as reinforced by lurianic kabbalah and post-ChBaD hasidic thought.

>>19108385
Is this why no one in Israel works, and just ponders deeper meaning all day?
How many layers are they at now?

>>19108380
Its aliens, they also chill at the Sun, at the Moon and on Mars.

why would they be so cucked to live underground in some hollow earth shithole when they could live literally everywhere with their advanced tech?

>>19108386
I don't live in Israel. I am a physicist.

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>>19108385
what do you make out of the conclusion the other guy came to, that this means paradise is on earth?
do you think that is one hidden meaning, or did he go wrong somewhere? or is it the metaphorical aspect that you can create your own paradise on earth?

>>19108386
tbqh a lot of them work in engineering and nu-tech development

I always love these threads, keep them up Gerbro.

>>19108390
Oh I know, all the elite yids are moving their oil money, into biotech, as they desperately try unlock immortality and lab grown organs. While the more conspiratorial will say they're creating bioweapons

>>19108389
According to the first book of Torah there is a paradise on Earth but it cannot be accessed due to our having acquired a fallen state via what is described à la the episode with the nechash.

It is worth noting that the Lord left the gateway to Gan Eden guarded by a seraph with a flaming sword, which cannot be crossed by flesh.

The Torah is somewhat mute on the hollow earth and things like Agartha, etc for a number of possible reasons, most likely due to the greek and cannanite tendency to worship in subterranean (see: chthonic) and elevated temples (what is called in the bible, "Places on High").

The Hacidim are very interested in the notion of making a place for G/d in what they call the world of Action, or Asiyah, which is this one in which we inhabit. This is literally called "the lowest of all worlds", behind the others.

>>19108387
Your well poisoning is become more pathetic, take a nap

>>19108392
I know, right? It is pretty sad.
A good buddy of mine works in Mechanical Engineering towards microscale devices which are ostensibly for growing organs and doing individual cell counts but obviously has nefarious overtones.

Personally, I am too focused on my own scientific interests to be swayed by much of this way of thinking though. I wouldn't study maths if I wanted to waste my mental energy worry about grey goo.

>>19108299
Ronald Richter worked in plasma research in so much as lattice assisted nuclear fusion was concerned.

He knew why Bravo ran away and if you think it is because of Lithium 7 then you need to learn nuclear chemistry.

>>19108393
>It is worth noting that the Lord left the gateway to Gan Eden guarded by a seraph with a flaming sword, which cannot be crossed by flesh.
but didnt enoch (i think he was it, not sure though) allegedly went there and back without dying? as far as i know enoch is commonly accepted as canon even though not included in the bible. dont know how it is in the torrah

>>19108382
>he later was proved to be right on the money with now fusion works.

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this allegedly shows how the glocke works. an anon pointed out it could be a scalar device, a device that draws energy from the vortexes in the nether which then can be used for propulsion, energy supply, or as weapon. in case of the glocke probably all of those

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>>19108395
What does your Jewish physics expertise tell you about this image? Does it have any relationship to the physic as we know them now?

>>19108397
ok so this is actually an interesting point.
So Enoch actually existed at a time before the flood, so it is written that he saw the way the hills and water ways of Gan Eden were dug as he was taken up by Angels/Malokim to see it.

It is worth noting that Enoch 1,2 were definitely written by messianic jews sometime in the second century, but whether they are based on older sources is not entirely certain because the content is alluded to in several books. We know from references in the New Testament that Yashua was familiar with Enoch, and therefore we can assume that it was a fairly widely distributed source of knowledge amongst even lower class jews by the beginning of the common era.

Going back to the first book of Torah, there are some rivers which are mentioned as having been dug. Two of these are known rivers in Mesopotamia (named for these very two rivers) but the other two are apparently either not there anymore or something else entirely different has occurred which is not well understood by most.

The Torah is quite adamant that the antediluvian Enoch lived to be 365 years old before he was taken by the Lord. The same is later said of the post-Temple Navi Eliyahu, who was taken to Heaven in a fiery torrent.

So here are two individuals that went to Heaven (note: not Gan Eden, although some say they are the same) even though they were in a "fallen" state. It is worth noting however that the Lord Himself brought them.

The Bell is a bullshit story put out by Igor Witkowski with no actual corrobating documentation. Other than I saw these items mentioned in an interrogation debriefing. Joseph Farrell picks up on this with his imaginist Fascist International series. They both shared a common publisher at the time through the Edgar Cayce Society, check out Witkowski's, Axis of the World: The Search for the Oldest American Civilization, to see his ARE propaganda.

Witkowski had changed part of his story in subsequent books that the item in question was without a doubt a new type of photo chemical nuclear reaction process.

Agoston in writing and Voss through post war debriefings and his CIA person file both intimated the existence of the Kammlerstab.

Secrets of the Wunderwaffe has a lot of good documentation to it. The Die Glocke story isn't one...

>>19108399
It generates power and a field effect from plasma fields which are counter rotated in relation to each other while also subjected to extremely high current electrical pulses while being simultaneously super cooled. As Gabriel Kron and Ronald Richter noted, the geometry of the plasma coupled with its movement starts gating energy from space time, much like Castle Bravo or Mike, which used no Lithium 7 in its fusion reaction.

>>19108301
'Simon Gunderson' the progenitor of that page also peddles a ton of other conspiracies across the internet. His Bell site has references to some real research and then a ton of bunk and documents that don't exist if you go digging.

>>19108402
>implying your evidence matters to OP

for him its either Hollow Earth Homos or Nazis from Antarctica

>>19108400
Yah, that's pretty cool. It is a mercury drive
As far as physical descriptions of vimanas go, I always liked the one description of a toroidal engine driven by mercury like in the T3 Black Manta.

Honestly though, you get a lot more legitimate energy out of Plutonium. Have you ever seen the decay cycle of a Plutonium atom?

For a really long time I was almost obsessed with this stuff... Now I am pretty much just working on solid state stuff, which although more subtle is actually pretty deeply interesting.

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>>19108401
going to make some broad statement in here, but please bare with me for a moment. you mentioned that heaven and paradise would be 2 different things. however as far as i know the word used for heaven in the bible also just meant "sky" meaning they were taken into the sky and dissappeared there. going back to >>19108354 i mentioned UFOs ar around for a very long time. so what if the angels actually came with UFOs, took him to heaven/the sky (since they flew away) and from there brought him into paradise which could be inside the earth as mentioned in >>19108338.

having this in mind project bluebeam suddenly shines in another light. there were the following purposes i know about that are assumed commonly
1. Fake an alien invasion to unite the people under a common threat and create the one world government/NWO
b) making the demons appear as (friendly) aliens so we dont oppose them.
but there is another option considering this
III: Make the UFOs of the angels during the rapture look like they are aliens invading the earth so we reject their salvation and join the government and fall for the great deception.

pic related is a painting in Biserica Manastirii, or Church of the Dominican Monastery, in the town of Sighisoara, Romania according to what the anon posted. below it reads "Israel, hope for the lord" from either 14th or 17th century (depending on wether its from before or after the rebuilding of the church) the psalm mentioned below reads in whole

Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.

>>19108408
they didnt even bother to test how long it can hover? The easiest thing to test?

>>19108409
maybe wasnt ready yet. could be just some concept art of it.

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>>19108399
>Spiralform silverthread
Probably a schauberger cone/screw

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http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2017/01/schauberger-effect.html?m=1
We know schauberger was in the right place and right time to work on something like die glocke. I have also heard that someone here in /x/ was trying to recreate a levitation device based off schauberger theories

>>19108496
It was for water cooling jet or ram jet engines, this could have also been used on a nuclear ram jet as the US declassified Project Lexington was slated to do.

Kammlerstab was working towards nuclear powered aircraft. We're they the Hannebu and Vril ships? Nope.

Read some recent research by Karlisch as their is an actual historical argument here. This whole Landig-Serrano-Order of the Nine Angles with US ARE mythology is a great LARP though.

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>>19108682
later than this command was handed out

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>>19108291
John Titoro i SEA you!

>>19108291
John i am postive that you were warned to talk about this before. Please delete this thread.

>>19109060
nah, as a german im fine as long as i dont say the nazis are the good guys. of course i only make this thread to warn you from their evil menace

>>19109108
Some things just aren't meant to be talked about in the mainstream John. It dosen't always means that some "evil menace" are keeping secrets from the public just for evening laugh. Stay away from This please, remember curiosity killed the cat..

>>19109132
maybe thats my plan to finally leave this goddamn rock without having to suicide myself and become a sinner

>>19109005
fuck you

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>>19109225
Om nom nom nom nom!

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>>19109275

>>19108400
>>19108399
Why would their typewriters have this typical "germanic" font? This is pure fantasy or disinformation. You know, they used just normal fonts in their typewriters and books...

Don't believe everything you see online honestly. You are well off to fantasyland my friend.

After 1942+ Germans didn't have much resources and their military resources were spread very thin on both fronts. Germany's initial success when invading France and Poland was just a fluke. After Battle of Britain their whole campaign went downhill drastically.

If you want to see what they really were designing at the later part of the war, this is one example. They were completely desperate to come up with some kind of super weapon and this was one of them...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biber_(submarine)

They also had designs for fighter planes and I believe they tested few of them but generally Luftwaffe was in total shitter because of Goring was completely incompetent and morphine addicted moron.

This game gives you pretty realistic idea what was going on with Luftwaffe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Weapons_of_the_Luftwaffe

Those big flying wings never actually flew any missions if I'm correct.

During the last couple of years of WW2 Adolf Hitler was complete wreck health wise. He received daily shots of Eucodal and on top of that some nasty shots given by his personal doctor, Theodor Morell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell

>>19109601
Also using Wikipedia or some shitty websites as your primary source of information is stupid. You like to spend time in imaginary realms instead of examining real facts by yourself.

Read history researched from documents of WW2 Germany and you will see your German UFO fantasies are just that: fantasies.

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>>19109625
Also if you say "Adolf Hitler escaped to somewhere etc etc", it's a damn lie, you don't know your history. Adolf Hitler was not in good health. He was literally a living wreck, he couldn't have escaped.

Here's a photo from later parts of the war. You can see his pinpoint pupils from Eucodal use. He was high as a kite.

>>19109625
wikipedia links you to other websites though as sources. i also used it for general claims which are basically accepted as fact already.

>German UFO fantasies are just that: fantasies.
doesnt explain the UFO sightings wafe nore the FBI docs with the witnessreports of a flying saucer starting from a german facillity

>>19109647
there is no proof that he died through suicide in berlin though, see >>19108356

>>19109601
that document is questionable, thats why i mentioned "allegedly" since i cant tell if its real. still i posted it because maybe someone can debunk it. either way why would someone make a german style typewriter to then fake a german document when german documents have normal typingstyle? like before creating one specifically for the purpose i would check what kind i would have to create in the first place.

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Tadpol, why are you sharing this information with halfers? You do the cause no service!

>>19108295
Agree, but we're slowly waking to jewish tricks. I for one would like to see an end to the cycle

>>19108345
SO why dident we nuke vietnam?

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There is the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition (NPIEE) which tries to find out wether there is a hole on the north pole or not. I didnt look into this much yet, but there are rumors about it being canceled twice due to sudden deaths of the leading expeditioner. This is what i could find so far
http://www.x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/history.html
>By 2005, the team had grown to 22 members, but required 100 members to fund the voyage. In 2006, Steven Currey tragically passed away and was succeeded by launch manager and PhD Physicist, Brooks Agnew.
http://www.x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/updates.html
>After the sudden and strange disappearance of the the Park Avenue, New York film production company that previously had announced its plans to fund the expedition to make a documentary, we have regrouped and decided to run an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign

so if you plan an expedition, its probably better to not announce it bigly

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>>19109893
There's no such thing as nukes. All "atomic" explosions were fakes.

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/x/ is such a disappointment. No wonder we post on /pol/. This board is like spooky /r9k/

>>19109893
It was actually on the table as an option. But by then the cold war was in full swing, so it was scrapped because nobody wanted to give the soviets a reason to start throwing nukes around too.

>>19108291
what's the source of that image? Those symbols are the same as the Roswell I-Beam.

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>>19111253
those symbols probably arent accurate. but it is the case the the glocke had runes/symbols around it, and at pretty much the same position the keksburg acorn had weird symbols as well which i feel isnt a coincidence

>>19108340
>sheer luck
Don't forget being insanely outnumbered, a two-front war, and choked out of acces to resources. They put up a damn good fight, though. Far more effective per unit than anyone else.

Keksburg was more than likely a piece of Soviet kit that burned in, and neither a ufo or German tech.

>>19111514
And why do you expect me to believe that? At least give your reasoning.

>>19111514
someone said it would have been a russian satellite, however if it was upon reentry it would have been burned completely with nothing left of it. also it was seen in at least 2 states so it didnt just fell down. what makes you think its soviet of origin, and what was it?

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>>19112462
Seeing how this is /x/, which is pure LARPing cancer, I don't expect you to believe anything even remotely reasonable.

>>19112604
>what makes you think its soviet of origin, and what was it?

Check out all the failed Soviet missions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_programme

These are just the known missions, and unlike the U.S., most of the Soviet space program was completely classified.

We know that the Soviets were the first to develop a probe that was designed to take samples on the moon and return them to Earth, and they succeeded in this by 1970. The Keksburg system could be a version of a probe that failed, or possibly some kind of intelligence gathering system designed to be launched and then returned through the atmosphere. It could even have been some kind of un-manned flight experiment of a new manned flight capsule, we just don't.

Regardless the description of the Keksburg device is similar to that of known Soviet space craft.

Pic related: note the similar design shapes and profiles in the Luna and Vostok spacecraft. Roundish type of upper area with some kind of lower ring device. That matches the description of the Keksburg object, and is largely dissimilar to most descriptions of UFO's, in the UFO's tend to be mostly saucer / disk shaped.

I think the Keksburg device was a failed Soviet project that simply landed mistakenly in Pennsylvania, and was secured by our government for intel purposes. It sure as fuck wasn't a part of any Nazi program, but people are morons and will believe what their stupid brains tell them to believe.

>>19108352
Nice one fellow anon

>>19112993
about the satellite part >>19112604

the descriptions fits more the german glocke up to the weird symbols around it at the same location.
>These are just the known missions, and unlike the U.S., most of the Soviet space program was completely classified.
so you rather believe it is something we have no information about its existence than it being something that is known to exist?

>>19108300
Impressive fake layout, but the text is lacking. "American Air Force" "Supreme Headquarters" kek.

>>19114518
>the descriptions fits more the german glocke

Says who?

The same fucking retards that say the Earth is flat? Maybe it's the retards that claim the moon landing was fake?

There's countless examples, and photos, of Soviet satellites, and not a single reliable photo of this fake ass "glocke" bullshit. Why don't you go back to your "vampire" threads, moron.

We're done.

>>19114546
its a real article though
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D04EED81F3BE433A25757C1A9649D946593D6CF&legacy=true
if you willing to pay a few bucks you can read it online

>>19114554
>flat earth
>moonlanding fake
nice strawmen you craft there.

>>19108322

The 88 on that kids shirt ;)

>>19114628
wondered already if its coincidence or purpose

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>Thule, Vril, Nazis, and UFOs, and Hollow Earth
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=584

>Nazi Occultism, Shamballa, Anasazi & Hollow Earth Research w/Chad Riley & Wes Faull
https://youtu.be/d61PqttVX7g

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>>19115259
will heck it out another time, have to leave my pc soon

>>19108374
And where are the high quality photo/cinemagraphic evidence? Where can I read reliable news and/or research about this HUGE alien ships that move around underwater?

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>mfw keksburg

I love how these experts on this thread spill out random bits of greentext and shit as facts. Give me one good research and photographic evidence of these 'giant alien ships underwater'.

No, don't point a link to an esoteric bullshit website where people who are Targeted Individuals write their own schizophrenic fantasies. Also Wikipedia doesn't really count as a source of any kind.

>>19112993
>These are just the known missions, and unlike the U.S., most of the Soviet space program was completely classified.
My first thought on learning about Keksburg was that it sounded like an early Soyuz capsule , especially the acorn description.

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>>19108321
Uncle Adolf did not die in Berlin, the bodies provided by the soviets were proven a hoax after the fall of the soviet union. The USA did not believe the soviet lies and continued searching for a while FOIA documents prove this.
>why did they not go conquer with their disks?
To what end would they have assaulted the world? Germany was held hostage and still is, they lacked the manpower for an occupation of anywhere, their material requirements for these craft are immense in mercury and specific materials which I will not go into, and they had acquired a homeland of the size od a continent to populate, safe underground in massive caverns, as the powers of the world threatened to destroy the entire planer in a nuclear war. What choice would you had made?
Further, should the tales of Alderbaron be true, it takes decades to fly there and back... though, we may soon find out, the time is nearing.
SIEG HIEL!

>>19108355
Maybe they farted and the echo from the farts made it fly?

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Allied Counter Intelligence is out in full force. You idiots make it so damn obvious. And i get it, because this particular subject is the one that links all other paranormal, political and occult ones into one coherent package.

WW2 never ended. They stopped open combat, yes. But the war itself never ended. It became something else.

>>19120195
BRAAAAAAAP

>>19108291
It would be keksburg wouldn't it

>>19120532
Mein fuhrer is that you? I'm on your side when you return. I'm sure you can use the leaked NSA stuff or even better stuff you may have to figure out who I am!

I remember an operation by the US I believe, they ent out many Navy divisions to Antarctica because of several reports about paranormal sights there and also because it was estimated that there still would be some nazi germans, But then appearently UFO's could be seen as soon as all the ships reached the spot. They flew into the East, which would point from their direction, to South America.

I could be wrong, but I believe that was the case my friends.

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>>19108291
>nazigermanies

>>19108294
Looks like an A-Wing lmao

>>19108291

While a case for UFOs being (at least in majority) man made, technology demonstrators, black project aircraft is strong, evidence towards Die Glucke and Hanebu series is just flimsy. Even if such projects were made, the late war conditions weren't favorable for the Third Reich, they simply couldn't have the industrial capacity to field any of these bold and breakthrough designs. While Germany had a huge resource put towards the development of jet engines and rocketry, in a misguided idea that fielding these, ostensibly, experimental, untested and hastily manufactured (due to war conditions) aircraft would cause moral to falter for their enemies, they were really nothing too spectacular for the time, technology wise (outside of relying on such a bald move to turn the tide in their favor, or at least, to stagnate the tide of the oncoming allied/Soviet forces). British and the Americans could've potentially fielded jet aircraft by 1945, but instead they relied on successfully updating existing frames to their fullest potential, which let them fully utilize the monolithic potential of their industry and existing logistics.

tl;dr: Third Reich's industrial framework was by 1944 too ruined to manufacture, let alone field, anything so prospective.

>>19108291
It's just swamp has

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>>19108291
are you germanon from /pol/?

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>>19122358
i dont know. but im usually on /pol/ and am german. but there are a lot of my kind around

>>19121046
it always is

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>>19117948
This.

>Soviets test and use a lot of different variations of the Soyuz back in the 60's, and it's a craft that's still used to this day

But of course, it's more likely to retards that the Keksburg object was some kind of fucking German "time machine" invented in the WW II era.

Idiots.

>>19121046

Swamp ass?

It HAS been warm...

>>19108333
>neger bitte

kek

>>19108293
fuck off back to pol you racist shitskin

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>>19123071
>Doesn't want problematic immigrants in the country he was born in.
>Racist

Ok kid.

>>19108291
Seems obvious to me how these would work.
I would try one but you need a serious power supply. As well as some giant resonant circuits that can upstep the voltage to a couple million.

>>19123165
immigrants bring in skills to run your shithole of a country you fag

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>>19123704
Sure, if you live in a shithole, like Haiti.

>>19108380
I've seen this, in the Persian Gulf in 2013 at night during a watch. It looked like an aircraft carrier in the sky.I had everyone going nuts, but the officers were not allowed to acknowledge it.

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>>19123894
>It looked like an aircraft carrier in the sky.
It probably was an aircraft carrier. Look up Fata Morgana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjIxRMWM5do

"The Bell" was real and it contained what the Krauts called "Xerum 525". It is most probable from all the accounts i've read that this was actually red mercury.

>>19123704
I specifically mentioned PROBLEMATIC immigrants, and Attached a screenshot of a quick Google search showing evidence of said problematic immigrants.

What the fuck are You doing? Why do you ignore whatever doesn't favor your idiocy? Do you think that if you ignore it it will just go away? What kind of defective, retard brain were you cursed with child? Holy shit..

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>>19124342
Actually it had a very specific compound that implies very specific additives to the mercury solvent. Anyhow, I won'f say more without hearing SIEG HIEL!

>>19123726
are those cookies? they look yummy

Nazi UFOs are a smokescreen to obfuscate the role of Nazi scientists in the US, as well as another smokescreen lie to obfuscate the UFO phenomenon.

>>19123071
when he posted that it was still on /pol/ you dumb fuck

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>>19108291

BBP(Black Budget Projects) have existed since WW1, WW2 is where they really grew.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>19127192
What is Ice Cube Project really about?

>>19127192
i would say black budgets have existed since the existence of states/governments. always were ressources used for some secret stuff outside the view of the plebs

>>19124325
Could be but doesnt carriers usually have a building on it with a controll room and antenna?

>>19124854
Seig heil!

>>19128647
Heil Hitler!
Alright, there's one, so here's a hint as a question.
What slightly radioactive but relatively common element can be dissolved in mercury, and change the color to a violet/purple as a result? Note, at extreme pressure, it will recrystallize within the mercury.