What does the government want? Why the MKUltra, why the staged

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There are no secrets we live in a free and open society.

>>19106549
>what do they want
Simply control. Nothing less, nothing more. Absolute control of every living thing.

They have lost their control because of interewebs however. Not losing control. They have already lost it. And they are scared. So the propaganda machine has been upgraded to confuse the masses.

Godspeed on your search for truth anon. It will not be much longer before the shadowy corners are filled with light for all to see.

>>19106549
>What does the government want?
More power like always.

>Why the MKUltra, why the staged terrorist attacks, why the cold war, why dividing the world completely and luring it to absolute chaos?
In order:
To control the population, to make them want their own enslavement, the cold war wasn't planned, and who knows.

>Does it have anything to do with most politicians praising Satan for fun?
Satan doesn't exist, and it wouldn't make sense for anyone to worship the biblical Satan. The only people who do it are just being edgy, trying to make religious commentary, or just flat-out retarded. Or a combination of the three.

>Why does the US have so many secrets?
Big country, lots of secrets.

Same for Russia. And it would be the same for the EU if it weren't disintegrating.

Wouldn't this have been better posted in /pol/?

>>19106571
I barely go to /pol/ and from all I've seen I thought conspiracy theories fit here better. I also wanted to ask about the occult connections.

elites on our planet are small time henchmen

the planet is a big factory and they are like the shift managers


we are being milked for energy
Everything you feel and experience is being packaged, shipped and consumed


why do you think porn is so popular these days with digital age

every orgasm is an influx of energy
like candy for whatever is consuming our energy

>>19106562
>There are no secrets we live in a free and open society
Your dumbness is so much that it's almost adorable.

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It's all about the end times, man. Don't let >>19106571 fool you otherwise. Satan has been working behind the scenes since the fall of man to build up to this point. It's a war for souls. The more souls he can ruin and hurt God because of it, the more he thinks he wins. All these control mechanisms are in place to bring us further and further away from God and closer and closer to Oblivion and Chaos.

>>19106653
>doesn't know when he's being trolled
>being this new

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>>19106633
Our culture being hypersexualized is a use by the occult to use our sexual energy for their Chaos magick. Sexual magick is just a step below blood magick in its potency.

The world is overpopulated. We have become a virus that is literally killing the planet. Every other species exists in an equilibrium with nature apart from us.

The "elite" know this, anybody with an IQ over 50 knows this. The only way to solve it is to start wars and spread disease.

WE are a problem that those with power want to eradicate, and they're right to do so.

>>19106755
But why do it with tricks and lies? Don't they have enough power to simply exterminate those whose existance is unwanted?

>>19106755
that's the dumbest solution ever, it's clear from first world countries that education and being well off actually drops population growth. People have more kids when they live in a shithole than when they have a nice place to worry about

>>19106755
How wrong youre to think overpopulation is the white mans burden and something the elites "care" about. The african, indian and rural chinese population should be diminished. Not us, the epitome of human evolution.

There is, no doubt, fringe elements among the super powerful who are overtly malevolent or worshipping evil entities, and also those who are disproportionately benevolent.

But overall, like most of the population they are largely neutral and self-serving.

That said, the elites interests are much more globalised than even your average multimillionaire corporate director.

So in a strange, weird, way the global elites direction is actually to preserve the world and see it remain stable so they can continue to develop more power at the top of the socioeconomic pyramid.

In that regard things like false flags, the migration crisis, etc., serve to dilute the world into an eventual murky, watered down, semi stable society where everybody is too intermixed socially, racially, politically, culturally, to see large scale world-ending wars.

Of course that comes at the cost of your every day westerner who lives in the top 30% of the world.

Basically elevating the power, wealth, etc., of the bottom 70%, taking from the top 30%, leaving a "balanced" world in its wake.

And then they can reap the rewards and head into space where the process will repeat.

>>19106770
They can't exactly round up crowds of people and start shooting them. It would cause a rebellion and they'd lose power. That's why it's done covertly.

>>19106778
>that's the dumbest solution ever,
Provide a better one.

>>19106794
It's not just the white mans burden, it's global. Yes, Chinese, Indians, Africans, whatever. Only difference is, white countries are the ones trying to solve it by killing us off.

It's fucked up, and quite the redpill, but it's true. We are all killing this planet. It's not our fault we were born, but it would have been better if we weren't.

A Global population of a few million would be perfect. We'd all be rich, have surplus food and space, have a better quality of life etc It's almost a catch 22. The more comfortable we get the more kids we have, which in turn makes the world a shitter place through overpopulation.

>>19106755
So why are we giving aid to Africa?

>>19106829
>Provide a better one.

free birth control and sterilizations

done

>>19106861
I have no idea how politics works, but i don't think politicians and governments necessarily know what is going on. Most people want to help others.

I don't want to sound like some conspiracy theorist so all I can say is I don't know. Check out the Georgia Guide Stones. Nobody knows who made them apart from those few that do. Even the Government of the US don't know who made them.

>>19106866
A lot of people want kids though. Especially people who aren't Western or East Asian. A better solution would be to release a virus or slip something in the water to steralise people.

>>19106861
see
>>19106805

basically the elites are running us as a one world government to serve their interests (stability of their workforce [the population of the world], greater power for themselves). Its not that difficult to see.

>>19106866
Nodody would agree to that. Would you?

>hey mr we want to sterilize you, come here

>>19106878
>>19106878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

"In June 1979, a man using the self-professed pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing company on behalf of "a small group of loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained that the stones would function as a compass, calendar and clock, and should be capable of withstanding catastrophic events. Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite assumed that Christian was "a nut" and attempted to discourage him by giving a quote several times higher than any project the company had taken, explaining that the Guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. Christian accepted the quote.[2] When arranging payment, Christian explained that he represented a group which had been planning the Guidestones for 20 years, and which intended to remain anonymous."

Weird huh.

>>19106888
That's just baseless conspiracy. You debunk yourself by talking like an idiot.

If you have no facts then you're just making assumptions.

>>19106878
I understand how politics work and let me just put it simply to you: its all money, control and zionism.

I agree with your argument to reduce the populace to hundred million. This would be a majority white and high iq asian society with a minority high iq colored.

>>19106895
No I'm really not, in fact that is one of the most open goals of hundreds of the worlds most powerful organisations and groups.

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>>19106895
>That's just baseless conspiracy.
spokan like a true retard.

>>19106901
>hundreds of the worlds most powerful organisations and groups.
name 1 (one) with facts and evidence to back it up. I bet you can't

Assumptions. That's all you have. Stop watching Alex Jones.

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>>19106975

>>19106549
the gubmint wants to destroy the world with taxes and kill you with poison

>>19106975
What would you want if you were a 50 year old billionaire with economic interests all over the world?

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>>19107019

>>19106676
>>19106633

Of course. It's not that apes with lots of food and free time want to masturbate if they don't have access to a sex partner. No. It's obviously the archons.

Because the simple explanation is foolish.

>>19106998
Great, a jpg made by an imbecile. Exactly the kind of "evidence" I was expecting.

You have nothing.

>>19106755
>Every other species exists in an equilibrium with nature apart from us


Except for deer, invasive species, and any other example that would be a singular fail condition of your argument.

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>>19107048
Pick a book, nigger

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>>19106549

i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't have any evidence whatsoever that "most" politicians praise Satan "for fun". maybe the real question should be "why does OP believe any of these things are true?"

if you DO have actual evidence of not only something every politician would do anything to hide, but even their very motivations for doing it, then you ought to be able to easily answer your own question.

>>19106566
holy fuck you are dumb

>they have lost control
please elaborate, pal
citation fuckin needed bruv

These are divised by another class of people. Those you know who seem in control have no true power here. A negative polarity needs to be set for the next harvest. Good luck.

>>19106549

Because Rome is falling, and the ultra-rich capitalists that really run the show know it. Either the climate has passed the tipping point, and shit's about to get so wild that the majority of us won't make it, or something as simple as the worker drones finally having enough and deciding to take their slice of the pie.

Love those in your heart fiercely. Enjoy the simple, easy comfort of life now. Start practicing your earth skills.

>>19106549
Read some damn philosophy. It's all there. Been there for ages. It's no secret. You just never took time to read it.!!!

Yes. This has nothing to do with power. Believe it or not they've always had the power since they built this system from the ground up.

This has always been about to destruction of God's creation and a perversion of the natural 'goodness' of God's world.

Its a spiritual war for the future of mankind .

>>19107559

not them, but look at the climate right now

more people know what's going on than what's feasible to keep control over

right now the only thing to bank on is division and force, and even that's just a way to push unity

when people learn too much the ability to control is dissolved

so while it's true people aren't all acting out yet all the signs are laid out already

the unrest is building, it's leaking out in the form of protest that's low scale violence because many people in places where it's happening don't know violence as it exists on any intimate level

they're testing the waters, but it's going to spillover; there's always a point where things stop being contained

>>19106633

there's nothing wrong with jerking off

the problem with the things pre-packaged for mass consumption is that they're bread and circuses, and they're slowly losing appeal

>>19106654

abrahamic faiths are a poisonous lie

what's going on is simply nature, part of a natural cycle

>>19106975
"Evidence" prooved in court that oj simpson didnt kill that woman... But he most certaintly did and everbody knows it. Use your mind kid. Just because there is no concrete undeniable evidence doesnt mean some crazy shit aint going on.

>>19107586

funny that you mention rome falling, i'm always comparing now to memories i have of then after a ritual

there are a lot of parallels

>>19106654
That picture reminds of Hitler, Stanley and other dude I forgot his name

>>19106633
Jeez spoopy much? Ffs anon but your right about it!

>>19107901
Same shit, different meatsuit.

>>19107748
>"Evidence" prooved in court that oj simpson didnt kill that woman... But he most certaintly did and everbody knows it.

Conflating the American justice system with nominal evidence. MFW you're retarded. There is procedure that criminal justice has to follow. And when it's not you get mistrials or guilty parties walking free. Because evidence had to be dismissed on grounds of statute.

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They see themselves as Gods, because they control you as such. This is apt to be reinforced, as you stand to learn a lot about the human condition from their positions, research, and our reactions. They also make events 'come to pass,' either by convincing themselves of some mystic synchronicity or by setting up the odds via variables. Esotericism is more convincing, when reasonable concepts elude so much of the populace.

They've surpassed our lives, when they can destroy them so easily. When the regressed ideals of old grip and move so much of our 'complex age,' it shows us to be truly stupid and savage. They've removed and tainted what were once our 'sacred religions.' They were able to do so, because we stupidly, arrogantly, viciously, and gluttonously enabled them... We asked for it.

LARGE. SCALE. SOCIAL. CONTROL.

IS governance.

They govern the spirit. This concept is lost on many, because they simply do not care. Goyim animals indeed.

>>19107708
What philosophy, how do you know which ones inspired them to do what theyre doing

>>19106566
this is what really gets me

if you look at the US (where I live) you have republicans and democrats, and they're both basically the same

they might have pet issues they pretend to care about (guns, gay marriage, etc) but they still push for control

No one pushes for freedom, why is that?

>>19108741

that's because the parties are meaningless, voting is just a pacification and division tool no matter who's in charge the same agendas get played out over the course of decades

the president is just a figurehead and only minor issues ever get changed every few years, minor issues people feel passionate about meanwhile things that actually matter are overlooked

the two party system doesn't even work because there's monopolies on completely separate ideas that push people to vote for and against things they don't entirely believe in to choose things that matter to them, which further polarizes them against each other

they become passionate about what is ultimately the equivalent of a sports team and because minor changes are made they feel like they've really made some kind of difference

it divides people even further when the "winning" side's representative does something people feel is wrong and turns the voters themselves into scapegoats (nevermind that we all know it's a machiavelian system and all politicians lie so very frequently what happens here is the things lied about are the bulk of what upsets people), and making the other side intolerant of the opposing opinions

on top of that it keeps people in line because everyone thinks in 4 years they're going to bring about some major change even though there never is

and then it pacifies others who like to think they can trust a corrupt system to correct itself over time by making small insignificant changes that make no difference ultimately through votes, and even if those votes did make a difference any actual change would take decades upon decades to actually take hold

so what you get is an easily controlled group of people to hold power over with little chance of them doing anything about it while they're busy caught up in the system or arguing over ideals blind to the common enemy who remains hidden while they take their frustrations out on each other never reaching any goal

>>19106549
they want to replicate end of days prophecies . the new world order is the american government... or so they think

sadly the wannabes think divine mandates for events would require acknowledged positions of authority

so they play house while everything inches closer to the showdown ignorant of reality. some of the richest and most influential are just superstitious and go along with it

>>19108856

on the bright side people can only be pushed so far before things boil over, and it will because it's starting

and when it does that's when all the fun starts

>>19107575
Elaborate Thoth-poster.

>>19108062
My point remins valid though.

>>19108200
Makes sense to me.

>>19108741
They want control for the sole purpose to introduce and force the acceptance of any and all things against the word of God. They convince you that God isnt real so that you will justify the deviant nature of what this world has accepted and become. They are destroying our moral compass and our spirit.

>>19110061

abrahamic faiths provide a moral compass that makes people easy to control, governments love them that's why they're a tool

>>19110076
Yeah thats why gay, trans, violence, adultry, casual sex, greed, selfishness, drugs are the accepted norms now right? Moral compass is fleeting at a rapid pace. Just like they want.

>>19110132

nothing is wrong with any of what you listed, the problem is caring about what other people do and asserting your morality as if it's objective onto them

worry about yourself, live your life according to your own morals, stop worrying about what other people do because it's just you giving in to the division bullshit that fucks everyone over because divided people are easy to rule over

abrahamic faiths aren't based in fact their morals are subjective, there's no reason to follow them other than personal choice

get over it

>>19106571

No. /pol/ is too fast of a board compared to here. And there is a pretty biased leaning when talking about anything. Also, I think the the other anon was talking more about Luciferians more so than satanists

>>19106653

Welcome summer friend!

>>19106755

You do realize that war and disease is a product of industrialization and gloablization. Creating these things fucks things up for everyone, not just the intended population targeted

>>19106861

We claim to give aid to Africa. But the reality is that the Chinese, Russians, and US are all just racing to take the undeveloped continent. We arent aiding shit. We are using and stealing.

>>19110291

war is natural, it's not a product of industrialization

all that's done is give different reasons to fight and more ways to do it

when you get down to it even plants wage war against each other, nature is violent sometimes

>>19110291

disease has always existed as well btw

>>19107750

Shut the fuck up

>>19110210

>there's nothing wrong with violence, adultry, greed

Uh, you're fucking retarded. Those things cause pain to other people which means, yeah there's something wrong with it.

Kys.

>>19106654
Yes

>>19110396

sorry you think honesty is larping because you've never experienced anything unusual

>>19110423

violence is sometimes necessary, it can help bring about change whereas pacifism can breed complacency and insure tyranny

greed can be a good motivational tool

adultery is just something that happens sometimes, monogamy is largely unnatural so it's not surprising people can't stick to it

all that being said pain has it's place and can be a positive thing once it's over, and everything you've listed is perfectly natural and just part of life

and in some cases (violence) completely important and necessary

this is an interesting thread. Keep posting dudes

Christ, a New Heaven, a New Earth. It is true.

Kinda strange that Trump was elected and this stuff still happens. It's almost like he's a puppet.

>>19110440

Oh, so it depends on context? Maybe state that instead if saying that there is "literally nothing wrong"

>>19110487

all presidents are puppets, voting is pacification and division tool

keeps people easy to control

all of this has been playing out for a long time because the presidents have all been figureheads

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>>19106549
Money. Kek. They want more money. And the Satan stuff is just an emerging religion, or total bullshit. End of donuts.

>>19110490

why wouldn't it depend on context? the statement i responded to was generalized i replied in turn

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>>19110440

>>19110515
>Greed is good

For one person. Clearly, it doesn't add up, and we end up on the verge of a race war. No seriously.

>>19110525

there are many facets to greed, it's part of nature and it's a driving force, it comes from a desire to survive and succeed, to do and have better

it can be utilized in a positive manner, just like being giving can be negative

there's a point where greed can become corruption, but that's unchecked and extreme

there's more to the race war shit than greed

>>19110525
We now have stormfront fags on /b/ talking about civil war. Because they think /b/ wanted Trump and all his BS. When it was just an effort to stop widespread violations of the constitution. And freedom being utterly dismantled right in front of our eyes. Also for the lulz.

>>19110334

War is huge business perpetuated by defense contracts and huge corporations. I beg to differ anon. We would not have war today without industrialization

>>19110546
Blah blah. It sounds great. But in action it's just talk show bullshit. You honestly think this newly funded military is going to allow a fucking race war?

>>19110343

Im aware of that. But how many diseases and plagues(as well as the cures) are now made in labs, by humans?

>>19106653
Lmao your the dumbest

>>19110560
Right, but we do things like industrial pig farming. They have lakes of piss, next to them. They pump it through the sprinklers to get rid of it. Ffs. We're killing ourselves. Collectively.

>>19110571
For every breakthrough, there are fifty egregious examples of someone making serious money and fuck everyone if it's toxic, or polluted the world.

>>19110552

native american tribes that didn't even own land still waged war against each other

you're being naïve if you think war is caused by industrialization when it's just part of nature

yes war is big business, that's why it's fought in the manner it is now, but no eliminating big business wouldn't eliminate war

people have been fighting and killing each other throughout history with or without big business

i'm not denying that big business affects things in the present, but i'm not going to pretend it's the sole reason and ignore history and human nature

we wouldn't have these wars, but there would be other ones

people demonize war but it's sometimes necessary and not always a bad thing

destruction can be cleansing

that being said the only way to remove what you have an issue with out of power would be more war

afterwards it'd only be a matter of time before wars started up for new reasons

America is a free and open society. If you have a problem maybe youd dont love America.

>>19110556

who said i thought there was even going to be a race war?

i'm pointing out that race issues are deeper than greed

anyway, the military is unlikely to allow anything whether it's productive or not (race war falls under "not productive" btw), but you're acting as if they have infinite power and like they aren't composed up of people

the thing about people is that sometimes they don't follow orders

also: guerilla warfare changes things

>>19110560

doesn't matter, it's irrelevant when you're blaming diseases on industrialization like they didn't exist beforehand or wouldn't exist if it hadn't happened

i'm not pro big business or destruction of the environment, or pro the wars that are currently being waged (though i'm not anti war), but statements that are blatantly false attempts to tug at emotions don't carry much weight

and that's what blaming warfare and disease on industrialization comes off like

>>19110571

Thats the point im making. The people who are pumping that shit into the water well are also negatively impacting themselves. And thats what i dont understand about huge, evil corporations polluting the world and melting polar ice caps in such a huge scale. I know profits are everything. But what happens when you cant profit any more because everyone is dead or cant afford your product? Is that the end game??

>>19107194

I wish the lines for each person were a different color

>>19110571

i know that happens, and it shouldn't but that doesn't mean grand blanket statements that make appeals to emotions without actually being true work well to illustrate points

easy solution to the pig farm issue is for people to either be vegan, hunt, or support small farms as protest

>>19110612

america is far from free and open, it's just a myth that people regurgitate because it's been drilled into their heads

yell about freedom while barely actually having any, it's a great tool for control, but it's not the reality of the country

>>19110612

Gtfo child

>>19110641

unlikely to happen in their life times, unlikely to happen in yours as well that's why it continues

aside from that people allow it, and as long as people allow it then it's going to happen while it's profitable

>>19110656

The city i was born and raised in could easily be under water by the time im an old man. And places like Shanghai, New York, and San Fran could all be under water in the next 50 years. And this is because of greed and lack of regard for the planet were all on. Im not some die hard liberal, its the truth. Earth is being constricted to death for profit. What happens when there is nothing left to profit off of?

>>19110675

collapse and more destruction obviously, it's a non-sustainable system that can't last forever

the real question is whether or not people who can see that are going to do anything about it or just keep going about their lives as is and continue to support a failing destructive system

people have more power than they realize the issue is a lack of utilization and unity towards a common goal

>>19106755
>The world is overpopulated
It is, but that's not the problem. The real problem here is resource management.

>>19110755

it's part of the problem, resource management is another issue

non sustainable lifestyles are another

and then there's all the other problems with the system

>>19110770
You are supossed to adress them one by one, effectively.

>>19110699

Seems like if people just slightly altered the way they think and live(find that common goal, like you said), we xould change the world for ever. Unfortunately i dont see that happening. The slide to the negative seems to be building faster and faster. And the people in charge of resources, are perpetuating that

>>19106549
They want to create a communist one world government democratically. They want you to sin as much as possible, destroy the institution of family, and promote the idea of a single human identity, and create a single mixed race. They want to break down the institution of organized religion or nullify it.

MK Ultra had nothing to do with it. But what the brainwashing in the media has to do with it, they essentially want people to sin as much as possible, to bring about the ressurection of the Sabbatean Jewish Messiah Jacob Frank, and fulfill the prophecy of a single world ruled by the resurrection of Frank, where all people are equal, private property does not exist and women are considered equal to men, ruled by Frank and the Jewish race.

>>19106549
They're agents of the demiurge and they're addicted to power. Their goal is to keep society under the veil and never ever let them peek through. In many ways society is an extra layer of false reality, a matrix within a matrix where people are enslaved to their cultural hiveminds, dogma and social constructs.

>>19106549
Also Satan is not a literal deity to "Satanists", and if not then his "worshippers" don't realize it. Our modern notions of Satanism are rooted in Jewish mysticism. For example, Baal, the Baphomet which makes appearances in Masonic rituals/symbolism, Succubi, the Occult, demonology, etc. all first appeared in Jewish mysticism. It's not like they're going home and chanting Latin in pentagrams, Satan is a deciever. The Jews in Revelations are mislead by a false Messiah. They aren't literally worshiping Satan.

>>19110781

there's things that need to be addressed before that then

>>19110812

it would be more than slight alterations, what you're talking about would require the masses to change their lifestyles drastically, and even with doing that you're only removing one aspect of the problem

you're also creating others because those businesses going under create more unemployment than what there already is without creating new jobs to fall back on for those people

aside from that there's still other major problems that can't be solved in that manner and likely can't even be solved peacefully

that being said, from what i see of people is that most are desperate for change and they're all flailing for it without enough guidance or strategy behind it or frozen by fear and apathy into continuing on with their lives

they just need a push and some unity

the thing is people have grown used to being complacent and reliant so breaking away from that large scale will be difficult

it's getting to a point where it's possible though, especially if strong leaders with good strategies were to come into place

when that happens things will start shifting more rapidly

>>19106549
Those at the top of the Western deep state? They have the same goal as the Davos class or any liberal elite with good intentions which have close ties to the deep state, for consequentialism (or at least utilitarianism of some sort) to become the dominant ethical modality on the planet. Rortian pragmatism gave coherence to the competition of ideologies while casting off entrenched Platonism and the eternal deadlock of metaphysics, whereafter Singer outlined the specific program of ethics for liberals to push. Both put words to something that was intuited by the elite for many years but hadn't been fully articulated.

It's kind of creepy in a clinical and uncanny way. The government is running a program that seems to involve treating you, an adult, like its literal child. This is not hyperbole on my part. What does this mean practically? That you're under the authority of a parent and will be treated as such.

I really want to support it though because it doesn't seem as arbitrary as the alternatives. But perhaps that's just the social-engineered part of me talking.

>>19106549

The wants change depending on the faction. There are too many factions in the US government to count when you include shadow factions. Point is, there is no single "want", but many.

The MKUltra project was a gambit at control.

Staged attacks are to distract people. Did you know that a shadow government collapsed in South Korea recently?

The chaos is a combination of things. Too many people are trying to control too much. There are also people that want chaos/anarchy/rebirth/revolution, or what ever you want to call it.

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>>19111040

governments are only as corrupt as their people allow them to be

there's all kinds of fucked up shit going on in the world right now, and all of it is done by a small number of people in relation to how many people they have control over

they go to wars with each other and civilians die, not them, people who probably are too busy with their day to day to even think about life on the magnitude they're dying over

that's who dies in wars, not the people in charge

the people who are most disposable to them

people get riled up, protest in ineffective ways, pretend their vote will change things, tell each other it's the other side's fault and bicker endlessly (or more recently) fight each other over flaws within the system instead of stepping back and seeing how little freedom there is and then looking at all the things that remain the same

at the rate things are going in the manner things are headed things don't look pretty

that all being said i want to just live in the woods and never have to bother with people unless i want to see them

>>19106549
Because the prince of this world is about to manifest himself & things must be put in place prior to it happening

>>19106549
the state sees in you (correctly) its first enemy.

The world is complicated,and they do not rule it.

It's not fun to worship Satan,what they worship is called capital.

Every country has secrets,empires also do.

>Shit is off the rails
>Blame Hillary anyway

Never change

>>19106549
You are experiencing an intense form of sadness.

Why not talk to your neighbor?

>>19106891
You do realize smoking makes you sterile right? Yet millions of people smoke even though it has no benefit to it.

>>19112505

it wouldn't be any different if clinton was in office, and she's not less of a horrible person just because you don't like trump

most of what's going on would probably still be happening, all the major things definitely would be, and the possibility of tighter gun laws would probably actually be on the table

gun laws are too strict as it is already, it goes against the entire purpose of the second amendment to enforce government regulations and lists on gun owners

inb4 people getting killed by guns

people murder each other every day in all kinds of ways, a gun being used to do it is a necessary risk to take because ultimately people need to be able to utilize weaponry and force to liberate themselves from potential tyranny

if you take away the means they have to do that (sure there's other weapon options but let's be real here, military and police forces use guns for a reason) then you're insuring a government remains unchecked by its people by shifting the balance even further away from the side of the citizen

of course citizens actually being willing to do anything large scale would be important, but having that right is a necessity

people need to be able to keep their governments in check, that's the only power citizens actually have other than live within the constraints of a system that doesn't work for or care about the majority of people or the state of the world

so in that sense clinton could've potentially been slightly worse and the ways she would have been "better" would've just led to more complacency, corruption, and unchecked power

anyway there's no sense in people looking to the government for much of anything positive at this point, so it's irrelevant really which "good" things people wanted from either side

people need to stop grasping at slivers of what they wanted as if they're valuable and good enough

>>19112540

smoking is pleasurable, being sterile means no kids to worry about

win/win

The government doesn't want that, we do.

We seek oneness, by any means necessary

>>19106549
an dhow many of u thinks that london attacks were just a mean to divert trump pullout of paris accord

>>19112788

i think the coverage of it is being used that way, but not the attack itself

but that's complete assumption i would need more details about all of it

i only know the basics, and then judging on the way media works i can assume it happened in retrospect

though i did see that conspiracy picture of the article time stamped earlier than the police call

you could probably have about an hour of fun looking at that

i haven't bothered, i don't think any of that matters

i think right now what civilians do matters more than what the government does or doesn't do

think about it like this

people can manipulate the market and bring down large businesses if they agreed en masse to do so

they can choose to make decisions that cater to doing things about what's going on and choose to live in a more self sufficient manner

and being more self sufficient and forming communities that keep each other going could easily start to lessen the hold of the government on the people

the real problem is that people aren't ready for that step yet

there's about 5-8 steps before that can be achieved because many things need to be changed first

also the second amendment is crucial to that

>>19112788

the thing about big business and the government is that they ultimately cater to the people or they fall apart over time once people hit a point where they find it all unacceptable

>>19106549

They want you to be a slave.

We had a nice respite for about a century.

But it's back to business as usual.

>>19113050

Well that's the beauty of a sedentary, eternally distracted population.

They don't have the attention span to remember the transgressions against them, even if it was only done a week ago.

>>19108002
>le trump is ebil Hitler meme

>>19112540

>Yet millions of people smoke even though it has no benefit to it.

Nicotine increases IQ and memory.

http://www.pnas.org/content/98/8/4728.full

>>19110041
No it doesn't
The American Justice system doesn't function by logic, it's run by bs loopholes
Basically you're saying that since theres no evidence that says otherwise, I'm God
You can't disprove it because evidence doesn't matter because muh OJ, better just believe it because you read it online though

Honestly, look at who's in charge all over and ask yourself which is more likely;

1) There is a huge conspiracy that never sees the light of day, all leaders and elite work to it daily.

2) We're led by a gaggle of incompetents and fucking assholes who'll see any cunt elected so long as they see their tax bill drop a few dollars.

>>19113070

Why can't it be a little bit of column A, and a little bit of column B, anon?

>>19106549
Gov't ain't monolithic. Has various urges and predilections. Some at cross-purposes.

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>>19106549
a unified world order to reach the galaxies with IMO.
the world is so diverse and in competition against each other its preventing us from moving forward. Sometimes it easier to scarp everything and start from scratch with whats left. we are now in the "scraping" stage and all this shit is just collateral damage

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>>19106549
>What does the government want?
To bring the antichrist to rule the world. The warnings are there but no one wants to listen.

>>19113056

exactly, but there's probably ways to get people to be more focused on the world around them to achievd that

>>19113070

why not both?

>>19110440
I'm totally anti-occult but the second reply in your post is absolutely correct.

>>19113281

fair enough

i can understand not being into the occult shit or believing in it, the shit i was referring to had nothing to do with anything i did though

i was with this pagan and i've seen some shit is basically what my interest in it is

when it comes to belief i have problems with it myself, but there's things i can't deny either

and after experiencing some shit i question where i stand on delving into certain sides of it

i know some people don't believe this kind of thing at all and others do believe in it but think it's wrong

i understand a lot of the reasons why for both sides of it

the other shit i said is just human nature

>>19113643

>i know some people don't believe this kind of thing at all and others do believe in it but think it's wrong

Some things people just can't know until they do. Once they do, it doesn't matter if anyone else in the world knows, because they do.

>>19113648

pretty much yeah

With all honestly.. This world is soon to burn fuck off.

>>19113698

to a large extent yes, but not completely

>>19112542
Nice blog

I don't think religion has anything to do at all with the depraved and secretive things the US government does. Money and it's acquisition is the driving force for everything the US government does, and a lot of it is made through brutal or shady channels which wouldn't bode well to be publicly known. I assume a lot of it goes directly into the pockets of politicians, private corporations etc. and a lot of that money probably pays for silence.

Being the number #1 nation in the world and the country with the most nuclear weapons affords the US government the ability to basically do whatever the fuck it wants, unchallenged, but it still has to save face. We've been raping the middle east for oil for decades. We armed and trained Al Qaeda in the 80s and 90s to destabilize the region, but if we pretend it's for a humanitarian cause, it's easier to:

1) Convince your citizens they/their family are dying for a just cause and
2) Present yourself as a savior to uninvolved/uninformed nations

We did the same shit in Vietnam. It's all for personal, private gain. We spared and hired Nazi war criminals to further advance science/medical science not only to increase the quality life, but also as a means of making money. Even when citizens of the US or other countries try to hold the US government accountable, nothing ever happens. People get paid and they get quiet. Things get "lost". The government had the means to reimburse the victims of MKULTRA, but it would be a sign of weakness and an admittance of wrong doing. If they were held accountable in that situation, they could be again for past and future wrong doings, which would be a danger to the US government's international reputation, and most importantly, it'd be costly to try and make right for all of those "mistakes".

It's all tied into money. There's no supernatural power with malicious intentions pulling the strings, it's just human greed. It's fucking terrifying.

>>19113698
can we prevent that from happening?

>>19114052

the funny thing is people choose to let money have that power, there's nothing stopping them from making their own form of currency and circulating that other than choosing to continue on with what is

of course that would be further down the line too, that's no starting point that could only come about if people also worked on putting their currency into each other, small business, and community while learning to be more self sufficient

less removed from their own survival

again it's all just a matter of what people allow to exist rather than what does

to an extent whether it's taken or not control is something people give, people would have to want to take it back at the cost of living in a manner that's different with the goal of making it better once what's desired is achieved

severing ties with what controls them by whatever means necessary would need to be an option, and there would need to be a way to provide a sense of unity to boost morale and keep people wanting to do so instead of reverting back into the conveniences provided by the cause of the issues

>>19114268

possibly, there's no way of knowing for sure but that's never a reason to not try

things like that only get harder over time, and really a lot of people in a lot of places are in a state of unrest

they just don't see their common goals and enemies right now, but that's likely to come soon enough whether it's helped along in an efficient manner or not

because right now all these groups of political activists are generally using inefficient means and when they push buttons they go for the wrong ones

that's not even me being anti violence or anti property destruction, they choose emotional targets based on where they're standing however not strategic ones and fighting each other when they should be working on common ground

part of the issue is also that people are very reliant on much larger things to do everything for them, to make conscious decisions to support things

>>19114268

+ to support things like causes and make changes, but without making their own and working on enabling others to do the same

governments are just small groups of people that take control of things to keep a larger group running

there's no reason to assume the only people who could manage that are ones we're given to choose from (not that they actually do anything other than minor shit within the current system, but that's a different rant)

so it's a choice people are making with a high price that will get higher every passing year

and if it's a matter of will (which it is) then it can be changed

it's heading there anyway, things tend to happen in cycles and if you look at the way things are and guess we're they're headed based on history and the climate all this unrest produces

right now it's a very early stage of unrest and adjustment, people are learning violence in a sense and are feeling the desire to resist control

burning things down is unavoidable, but there's some choice in what burns

>>19106549

>create problem
>offer solution that incorporates your end goal which is dominance

Simple really.

>>19106571
Missinfo

>>19106653
I have a feeling that he was being sarcastic mate, but who am i to judge

>>19111073
That whole South Korea being run by feminist witches was a fucking wild ride

>tfw want to disregard all the lunacy of illuminatis and government crazies and just get a wife to fuck and settle down with while working a job I can be happy about
>tfw won't be able to do any of that, tfw won't get to have a pet because of all the crazy shit the world has done to screw everything up with different regulations and stuff
>tfw despite all that crazy shit it might be ok because it means not bringing a child to become a slave in the system and ending the line with me
>No worries about infidelity or anything no worries about kids competing in school or anything to be the best or get into a tough school or stuff

I guess you accept your victories

If you were to try more you'd just fail or be met with more competition so just be happy with what you can get and move on

>>19106654
Holy fuck. Finally some fucking proof. I knew Tupac was still alive. Makes even more sense now that I see Trump in the picture. Figures they would be butt buddies.

>>19115072

sounds pretty dismal

at least with a competition there's a chance of winning, and it can be fun

even if infidelity were to happen that doesn't have to be a big deal

i don't completely understand why people believe in monogamy though

rrlationships with other people are still worthwhile even if negative things happen

they're part of life, people do shit and you can't own them and restrict them just because you have a deep relationship

serious ones anyway, the other kind are just fun until there's too many feelings and expectations

i'm with you on not having kids, spending time with my two year old niece is mind numbingly boring i can't imagine having to take care of a child and dealing with that so frequently

i'd probably just end up hiding, high and drunk all the time hoping they'd grow up quickly or something

some regulations make sense with certain animals due to environmental reasons btw, it's the same with plants

invasive species and whatnot

>>19115072

nothing wrong with failure btw, sometimes you have to fail a lot to learn how to succeed

>>19106549
This is like an /x/ version of "but her emails". She lost. Why do people still care about this extremely mediocre politician?

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>>19106549
>What does the government want?
A One World Government (control,power,etc.)

>Why the MKUltra, why the staged terrorist attacks, why the cold war, why dividing the world completely and luring it to absolute chaos?
In order:

To trigger people into "playing the role" that's been programmed within them. Staged or real, create panic or as they say a "problem" so then they can offer the "solution". Communism threatened civilization into captivity, USA ain't having that, freedom or die. Again, create problem, offer solution, integrate into society and move closer to what the bible prophecies about what must happen in the last days.

>Does it have anything to do with most politicians praising Satan for fun?
Whether conscious or not, living for the riches of this world causes corruption and judgment is impaired, which makes for foolish laws to be passed.

>Why does the US have so many secrets?
Shadow Gov. Like Bilderberg Group, Rotschilds, Freemasons and the other Elites, they truly desire have a plan to rule the world. They must stay hidden from the public to accomplish such devious plans.

>>19115314

i think it's funny that capitalism (which makes slaves out of the masses, roman style slavery btw where they dangle the idea that you can buy your freedom over your head so people don't complain too much but hardly anyone actually does; beautiful system when it comes to control) is somehow seen as freer than communism when the reality is that in an authoritarian setting they're both extremely restrictive and in a less authoritarian system they're both still restrictive of freedom

they're not different when it comes to restricting freedom

people just think they're more free with capitalism because it's the system in place in most places and the people in charge need it to remain that way to continue to have power

the reality is within the confines of civilization the only true freedom anyone has is inside their own head

turning opposite ideals and opinions into the enemy of freedom when the system already in place doesn't actually allow freedom to exist (while drilling propaganda into people's heads expressing bullshit sentiments) is another way to keep peoplel divided and defensive of the system that's sucking them dry while those in power profit