>mfw Christians think they know the truth after reading one book

theres more then 1 book dummy

OP is jealous that Christians know how to read

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>>19096449

>>19096455
I'm actually giving them the benefit of the doubt. Reading the book is the biggest obstacle to actually believing all the bullshit in it. Even if you can overlook the nautralistic incongruities you have to scratch your head over an all powerful God being thwarted by iron chariots and your stomach must churn at the bronze age morality. No, its nothing but another piece of the puzzle in man's understanding of the divine. Maybe its even exceptional in that regard but its not divinely inspired and its ridiculous taken at face value.

>>19096455
>Christians know how to read
That's a good one.

>>19096429

Looks like you haven't read that book, anon.
It might just enlighten you as to how they can 'think' that.

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>>19096527
Cover to cover senpai. Its nothin' special.

>>19096449
>not using than or then correctly
>comparing one bible book to one actual book with developed plot and characters.
>implying that one of that "books" can´t be viewed as a chapter of the whole story
>implying crhistianism could be understood by reading only one of these chapters
come the fuck on dude, it`s ok if you are christian, it doesn`t bother me, BUT, your argument is shit.

>>19096539

Have you thought about what you're reading?
Did you 'get' (aka 'grok') anything about it?

[spoiler]Hint: forget everything about it, and read it just like you'd read any other book.[/spoiler]

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>>19096555
I even read the book with a genuine passion to receive its message. This was after the Syria attack and various other unsavory developments. I started with Job and Ecclesiastes and then the new testament and I was still completely on board. Then I started at the beginning and I realized that it was a book full of primitive understanding and silliness. And then I took a syncretic occult approach and I realized what was really going on.

Hint: He's Jewish.

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>>19096429
No christian actually thinks that besides protestards who take the bible literally

Do you even thomas aquinas/irenaeus of lyon/etc

>>19096634
unfortunately fundies are the majority of online Christian presence.

>>19096545
not an argument

>>19096695
that's right it wasn't an argument. It was a shitpost. Thanks for at least fessing up.

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The Bible is comprised of many books.

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>mfw a Christian says he never read Aquinas near me

>the bible is one book
Been watching too much banana man?

>>19096978

We already dealt with an idiot such as yourself

>>19096449
>>19096470
>>19096545
>>19096695
>>19096709

There are 66 books in the Bible. It's sort of like when you buy a DVD box set. Was that explanation simple enough for you?

>>19096978
Many of them edited and having ommisions based on human consensus.
>It's the word of God
>No it's edited by man. Let me see your bible.
>*Looks at bible* hmm King James Version. The Word of God in accordance with a mortal king. Seems legit.

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>>19096988
Book:

1. a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.

Yep that would appear to be this thing

>>19096997
Wrong, there are 72+ Canonical Books. King James is abridged.

>>19097011
Jesus...

>>19097017
Yep he's in there

>>19097031
Not that much at all taking into Consideration he's the main figure your religion is based upon. It's called Christianity and there isn't a lot of stuff that he said in it. Well there is but...THEY WERE EDITED OUT.

>Book promises the power of miracles
>read it
>try to do one
>fail miserably
>still believe it

>>19096494
fucking owned

>>19097040
Its not my religion. I'm a syncretist. or a neoplatonist

>>19097014
They didn't make the final cut, and are therefore irrelevant.

>>19096527
> read to be enlighten

im enlighten alright, after finishing reading that "book" when i was a kid/teen, ive notice how stupid it was

>>19097049
>The Son of God who is God being consubtantial with God.
>His word being the word of God and Infallible TRUTH.
>Is edited out by fallible men because it "didn't make the cut"
Flawless logic there!

>>19097061
he'll say that Constantine was divinely inspired to choose the right ones. But of course that didn't mean the catholic church wasn't heretical. No not until the Calvinists came along was the word, meaning and tradition fully realized. Oh but "muh free will" so actually the anabaptists had it right. The one (((True))) faith.

>>19096989
Hardly.

>>19097076
Are you really going to embarrass yourself by admitting you don't know what a book is?

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>>19096477
you know, I make it a point to tell people that you can prove the bible has origins outside of space and time.

you don't even need to read the entire bible to know the truth, you can translate the names of genesis 5 and it lays out the entire plan for mankind.

that we are appointed mortal sorrow, but God will come down and die for us, teaching us that his death will bring us comfort and rest.

>>19096613
if you did do that, you'd realize that Brahman, Yahweh, and Ginnungagap are the same entity.

one of the most surprising things I've ever learned is that the 4 vedas have the same rules for animal sacrifice that the Torah does.

not only that, Jesus Christ met all the "kosher" rules for animal sacrifice.

>>19097042
ye of little faith


for the rest of you, if you ever read the gospel of judas, you'll learn that Jesus Christ asked Judas to betray him, for in the old testament, it was written that the sasvoir would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, and the silver would end up in the hands of the potter. Jesus chose him to fill that roll.

there is something really spooky going on.

>>19097074
It's thin. That doesn't cut it. I don't care what sect of Christianity you are. You aren't getting the full message because a bunch of fallible men sat around a table and decided what parts of "THE WORD OF GOD" were not fit for mass consumption. Then you have schism after schism and nobody can even agree on one thing. Every person thinks that their flavor of Christianity is the right one and the only version to follow. It's comical.

>>19097076
Steep bantz yo

>>19097084

You're deluded

Explain this figgot.

Serpent = nachash = 358
Saviour/messiah = mashiach = 358

>>19097081
The Bible is both a book and multiple books. It's like how God is three gods at once.

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>>19097084
Brahman, Yahweh, and Ginnungagap

Of course. He just really likes Jews for some reason

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>>19096429
fixed it for you

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>>19097098
congratulations, you solved the very challenging puzzle for fundie idiots

Its multiple books and 2 testaments, also the smart one know they don't know anything

>>19097092
the serpent is a symbol for wisdom, which can hurt, or heal.

John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Numbers 21:9
9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Exodus 7:10
And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the Lord had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent

Mark 16:18
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

try going to an Appalachian snake church, or read the gnostic gospels

Amos 9:3
And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them:

>>19097109
Gentile is a word that means nations, so when it says Abraham would be the father of many nations, it meant that he would be the father of many "gentiles"

meaning abraham is quite literally the father of a LOT of nations that exist on the earth today.

I'm going to put it for you really simply. lets say you had a child, now your child broke the law, and by law, he's going to be put to death. if the law stated that you could replace your life for your childs, would you? you'd probably say no, but most people would say yes.

God made a human sacrifice to all the nations, not just the jews.

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>>19096429
>mfw out of the infinite possibilities people are still delusional enough to think that the true answers have been found, Even moreso that they've found them
Everything that everyone's ever preached is a lie and the truth will never be known. Why bother fighting over which lie is the best when you can just make up the most entertaining one for yourself and leave everyone else to theirs.

>>19097156
Do you realize how unbiblical your doctrine is? Not to mention this thread doesn't even apply to you because obviously even in the book-form of the bible the gnostic texts are nowhere to be seen.

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>>19097191
>Not to mention this thread doesn't even apply to you because obviously even in the book-form of the bible the gnostic texts are nowhere to be seen

>what is the council of Nicea

I'm a king james fundamental baptist. and I tend to agree and believe the notion that Jesus Christ was an overseerer of every letter of the old testament, and the new.

>Do you realize how unbiblical your doctrine is?
ok, whats unbiblical about it, and what is my doctrine?

>>19097218
You mentioned the gospel of Judas. That isn't bound into the bible. Therefore you've at least read 2 or 3 books of any description.

>>19097250
ok, you can say that the extra books i read are unbiblical. while i continue to follow

1 John 4:1
Acts 17:11
and Proverbs 18:13

John 20, proverbs 8, and 9 are what gave me the gospel of Mary Magdalen in the first place.

I read revelation because I heard in a lecture its the only book in the bible that gives you a blessing for reading it, in John 20 Mary Magdalen calls Jesus Teacher, and she is the FIRST person Christ personally goes to see. She is the one that he made the witness to his ressurection. so I asked myself "what did he teach her"

lone and behold she has a gospel, and its the most beautiful thing I'll ever read.

you can say its unbiblical, but the bible is what gave me the gnostic gospels in the first place.

>>19097156
>and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover

Very well, drink poison.

>>19097218

The book of nag hamadi scripture doesn't include all gnostic writings.

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>>19097290
I know it doesn't, I just posted it for the sake of posting it.

>>19096429
topkek. That's a pretty effective meme. lol

>>19096470
That's a spitting image of Dennis Franz.

Its 2017 people, cmon now

>>19096455
I can guarantee you that more than 85% of Christians have not read the entire bible. And its probably still over half if we're talking people who haven't even read the gospels.

>>19096999
That's my biggest issue. It might have been originally written by people God told to but it's been translated abridged and edited for so many years. Idk how someone could argue its the word of God.

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>mfw you think anyone needs books to know the truth

>>19096449
>more then
>calls other people dummy

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>mfw atheists are going to hell and no amount of praying for their wicked souls will save them

I try to follow the relevant morals I see in the bible and I would like to call myself christian even though I treat any possibility as exactly that, a possibility(not fact)(which might ironically be against christian values lol). The fact is I'm a fucking failure as a human being. I'm pretty much a worthless waste of space. If there is no after life,then as frightening as eternal nothingness is, I would rather embrace it sooner that later due to my lifestyle. So on the off chance that there is a afterlife I try to make sure I get to it. To put it simply, searching for an afterlife that doesn't exist will cost me nothing. But not searching for an afterlife when it does exist will cost me everything. Thats my odd justification for calling myself christian.

>>19097282
God bless you.

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>>19097535
It's not a possibility.

If you believe morals exist, then there must be a moral giver. The unmovable mover. The unstartable starter.

The beginning and the end.

Nothingness doesn't exist and will never exist because it goes directly against the first law of thermodynamics.

If your thoughts and feelings are just energy jumping from neuron to neuron in your brain, and energy can't disappear, where does that energy go when you die? Where did that energy come from in the first place?

God is good. Praised be the Lord.

>>19097544
>God is good

Which one?

>muh bible

No, that god isn't good.

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>>19097574
>God isn't good because there's evil.meme

Your file might be corrupt. Free will is the source of all evil. Evil is what Drives us away from God, Good is what brings us closer. Good is a direct derivative from God in Anglo Saxon linguistics.

Try again next time, Theist.

>>19097577
>>God isn't good because there's evil.meme

No, your god isn't good because he is blatantly depicted as evil in your scripture.

>>19097609
LMAO

You've just proven to me you haven't read the Bible. Literally KJV, ESV, NIV, read em and weep, kid.

>>19097613

But I have, a god that punishes Adam and Eve because they did a thing when they never had knowledge of good and evil is a moral monster.

>>19097615
Don't do this thing or bad thing shappen.
Ok. *do thing anyway*
*Bad things happen*
Wow God is bad.

This is your brain on Puberty.

>>19097619
>Don't do this thing

They don't know it is wrong even if told, they still can't tell right from wrong because that's what the fruit does.

>>19097629

Christians weren't called cretins by chance

>>19097629
Oh so I guess you won't tell your child not to drink poison because it hasn't developed a sense of morality yet, huh.

Really smart. In fact, how about you straight up feed your child and yourself poison, you know - experience through example and trial and error.

>>19097658
>Oh so I guess you won't tell your child not to drink poison because it hasn't developed a sense of morality yet, huh.

I keep it away from him because he will not know better and it would be my fault.

>>19097667
Haha hey, guess you're as bad as God then. Wow, looks like you are right huh. Wtf I am atheist now thanks.

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>>19097675

I'm not atheist though.

>>19097675
>try to teach a christian about gnosticism
>he becomes a fedora in the process

Fucking hell

>>19097084
>OH LOOK IT TRANSLATES INTO THE SECRET MEANING OF THE UNIVERSE
>COMPLETE FUCKING GIBBERISH.
CRUCIFY YOURSELF

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>>19097577
>Free will.maymay

>>19096634
>Implying someone will be tempted to become christian after having read thomas aquinas.
>Implying someone would be more tempted to become christian after having read aquinas instead of the bible.

You are utterly deluded.

>>19097619
Better yet.
>god is all knowing
>puts tree of good and evil in the garden
>gets mad when Adam and eve pick fruit from it
>acts suprised when they do it
>again, god is all knowing
10/10 logic.

>>19097845
how about he had to act angry to push the first human through enough bullshit to ascend into something greater than his former self that could actually communicate with god on a level that isnt boring as shit to him.

>>19097084

>Brahma and Yaweh are the same

Yeah, sure, the demiurgue is the same as the universe. Christokikes, fuck off!

>>19097854

What about that Lucifer is the good guy and the Demirgue is the bad guy, just a thought.

>>19097854
You're not getting my logic dude.
If he's god then he's omniscient right?
Then if he's omniscient he knows that they're gonna eat from the tree anyways right?
So then why does he get pissed off for doing so?
If we follow your line of argument. He got angry because he wanted to push them past their limits.
But weren't they perfect anyway? They had a divine.nature and they fell.
Doesn't that mean god is either careless or evil in his decision making?
Better still. If he was getting angry after having known that they would have picked and committed the first sin doesn't that mean by extrapolation that he's a fake god who lies as well?

>>19097544
>If you believe morals exist, then there must be a moral giver.

I'm glad you have never studied philosophy ever. Cogito ergo sum my dudes!

>>19098114
Why would you be glad he hadn't studied something?

>and then he made light and saw that it was good

So we have this very powerful being right?

And he's like:

-I'm going to create light!
-Holy shit it shines!

>>19096545
>he reads for plot and characters

sucks to be you

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>>19097514
>mfw you fell for the hell meme

>>19097675
Kek

>>19097895
The only thing I can say is maybe God has mental problems.

>>19096429
If the the truth is condensed into one book, then what's the problem?

>>19098517

It isn't, though.

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>>19097544
>there must be a moral law giver

Indeed

>>19097577
No Yah isn't good because by any tangible measure he is evil and only unconvincing apologetics makes him seem good

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>>19097619
No Yaldabaoth is actually a swell guy. Just don't touch his special box or take any censuses

>>19097658
>child has developed a sense of morality

What happened to God writes his laws on our heart? Then again if that were the case we'd think loli sex slave concubines were a good idea as according to numbers 31:18

>>19097757
>implying someone without a Christian background will get past Deuteronomy without throwing the book down in disgust.

>>19096429
athiests i seen look too lazy to read the bible. they read fluff instead, opting for fashion and easiness over hardcore truth because they're a baby back bitch deep down

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>>19100425
I agree. Gnosticism is where its at

>>19097045
your mind is owned

>>19096429
Many other historical texts speak about things that back up things said in the Bible. There is also much history and evidence left on the earth that proves things said in the Bible. Go look at Soddom and Gamorra which are still there but they are now just ash, huge walls of ash. Strewn all across the countryside in the area are small balls of sulfur that are very pure and not naturally occuring anywhere. Just two of the many, many proofs that sit on this planet to back up the Bible.

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>>19100476
All that proves is that they recorded history Big dealio. Meanwhile, Tyre today

All religions share the same aspects, just different names and different stories to convey the same ideas, there is no use in fighting about this shit.

>>19100529
But for the religious dogma is everything. Its all about having the secret sauce.

>>19100533
too bad for them there isnt a secret sauce. its literally all the same.

>>19100476
>Go look at Sodom and Gomorrah

Proof? Where is it? You're full of shit.

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>>19096429
Atheists be live that tv static is proof of "bug bang."

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>>19100607
Yes those silly atheists indeed do believe that. What's your point?

>>19096429
The Bible isn't one book. It's multiple books compiled into one volume. Dumbass.

>>19100792
So far this is the best argument fundamentalists have against OP's shitpost

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>>19097879
I'm a gnostic christian, nowhere in their gospels do they say Yahweh is the demiurge, the demiurges name is Yadaboath. Yahweh is Saboaths Yahweh, who is the Son of Yadaboath, and repented to the fullness, and became part of it.

just because gnostics say the old testament god is the demiurge/devil, doesn't make it true. this is what happens when you disregard original sources, and rely on theosis, you get fallaciousness, and become facetious. many gnostics confess on christ while calling the OT god the devil, ignoring the fact that the old testament is written completely of jesus christ.

at the end of the day, there is no difference between the Kabbalah, and Yoga when you look at the teachings, and remove the idols.

at the end of the day, you're suppose to reach out to "the true god" within yourself, and no where else. the kingdom of heaven dwells inside you, your body is a temple to god, and the spirit of god dwells within you. God is in the breath.

>>19097890
Lucifer makes approximately 0 appearances in the gnostic gospels.

there is a distinct difference between Yahweh, and the Demiurge Yadaboath, and the archons are not uniform. in the gospel of judas, 6 of the wandering stars are going to be destroyed according to Christ, which most likely means that 6 of the archons are going to be destroyed, while Yahweh becomes part of the fullness because he repented. this is why Jesus Christ is a symbol of repentance.

>>19100434
I recommend being a king james fundmentalist while including hindu, gnostic, greek, and hindu scriptures/mythos as divinely inspired canon. pretty much all legends and mythology now that I think about it should be regarded as factual.

>>19097577
according to the gnostics, ignorance is the source of all evil. free will does not drive us away from god, I'm pretty sure this reality is an experiment that seeks to prove that when given free will, people will choose to flock to God.

>>19100819
>just because gnostics say the old testament god is the demiurge/devil

Then what's the point of there even being a demiurge?

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>>19100836
read "on the origin of the world" to find out. the demiurge was created out Sophia(wisdom) without her male companion, and without the male energy, it came out like a failed abortion.

but for some reason, this was part of the fullness, the fathers plan. the Fullness knew Sophia would do this, and let her do it anyway, she knew she would hide her failed abortion of a creation at the bottom of the universe.

the worlds a confusing place anon.

>>19100617
this man had beautiful things to say about jesus christ.

>>19098492
>>19097514
there is actually redemption from hell. at least according to the Divine Comedy.

>>19100890
Apart from the fact that the Divine Comedy is not a dogmatic treatise, it does not present any redemption from hell. You might be thinking of limbo, which is shown as an eternal state of apathy for the otherwise-righteous those who didn't have a chance to embrace Christianity, or you might be thinking of purgatory, which is very different from hell. Either way, you're misrepresenting Dante.

>>19100890
Lots of people have beautiful things to say about Jesus Christ while comparing him to other religious figures and not calling him the most high. That certainly isn't even close to any kind of fundamentalism. If you think Hindu gods are anything but demons. If you believe gnosis isn't the "devil's deception" then you are not a fundamentalist and by any fundamentalist, especially baptist standards, you are a heretic.

>>19100915
not to mention dante misrepresents the Bible.

>>19100915
the man goes through the deepest parts of hell, and comes back out of it. if that's not a tale of redemption in hell I don't know what is.

>>19100952
He wasn't sentenced to hell. He was getting a tour. Virgil could only guide him for part of the tour because he wasn't allowed to follow Dante out, despite knowing where the exit was.

>>19100890
Speaking personally I think the only reason for a dualist interpretation is primarily to separate the capricious and vindictive character of Yahweh from Jesus. After all you can't really trust a God that says he will never destroy the world again and has yet clearly intimated his intention to do so. Nor can you trust a God that strikes down 70 000 people as casualties of their King's census. Nor can you trust a God you gives child sex slavery his approbation. I can completely understand where the gnostics were coming from..

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>>19100932
read this post

>>19097282


herecy is to disagree with theosis, to call hindu gods demons is fallacious, demons don't tell you to repent for your sins, demons don't tell you to look for god with in yourself, demons don't tell you that the kingdom of heaven is within yourself.

you might have watched stephen andersons garbage, and quite frankly the man is a moron. reincarnation is real, read your old testament, and study the interactions of Sheol and the soul. there are hindus who hold their arms up until they wither away, but everyone fails to neglect that Krishna warns that these people are demons.

you treat christ like an idol, instead of following the teachings.


>>19100979
Jesus descends into hell in order to preach to imprisoned spirits 1 Peter 3:19–20, not only that in the 8th circle Dante meets Odysseus, who regrets his actions, and wish he led a different life of "virtue, and knowledge" I imagine one day Christ will meet him since Odysseus ADMITS the error of his ways.

it is widely mentioned that Christ will descend into Sheol to free those who are imprisoned there.

Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol? Shall I redeem them from death? O Death, where are your thorns? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion will be hidden from My sight.

Hosea 13:14 this verse was an allusion to Christ, Hosea is a book written explicitly of Christ's actions

>>19101032
You are subjecting the bible to esoteric exegesis. I don't fault you but fundamentalism is literalism. Its reading the text at face value. Its believing this life is a one shot where the multitudes spread across the world, except those who have the magic Jesus armor are swept into an eternal torture chamber.

>>19101002

>I can completely understand where the gnostics were coming from..

to be honest, in my study of the gnostic gospels, I find this opinion to be mostly a lie, their scriptures do NOT back the notion that they thought the OT god was the devil. the Old testament is harsh, because the wages of sin are death. there is a law, and a kingdom with a government in the universe. I trust a God that is willing to come down and die for my sins, that tells me to turn away from sin because I've committed quite a few of them, and it it removed my depression to do so.

one of these laws is that if you lose your body before your appointed time to die, you automatically get a new one. one of these laws is if I fuck your wife, I get stoned to death, which at this point I tend to agree with. Sins don't just send you to hell, they destroy and mutilate the soul God gave you.

>. Nor can you trust a God you gives child sex slavery his approbation

God does NOT approve of pedophilia, I'm like 100% sure its banned in Leviticus

>>19101094
Numbers 31:18

Go fuck yourself and your disgusting book

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>>19101094
>God does NOT approve of pedophilia, I'm like 100% sure its banned in Leviticus

"But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

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>>19101077
Proverbs 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

God hides esoteric secrets in the bible all the time.

and yes, I take the bible quite literally. I'm borderline a young earth creationist, and i defiantly thing the earth is stationary, and flat, with the sun and moon revolving around it.

> Its believing this life is a one shot where the multitudes spread across the world, except those who have the magic Jesus armor are swept into an eternal torture chamber.

like i said, study Sheol, Israel talked about "how his gray beard would go down there sad" because of his absent son Joseph, and the idea of losing his 2nd son to Rebekah. Israel knew damn well he was going to Sheol, despite the fact the man was blessed from God, and had god with him. I do not expect him to reside there forever, the bible defends the notion of reincarnation, and the one verse in hebrews 9:27 can just as easily be used to defend it rather than refute it.

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>>19101126
Well then you're a total idiot. How can the floor of a flat plane obscure half of a skyline unless the horizon is actually closer than the buildings?

>>19101032
>demons don't tell you to look for god with in yourself
No. But common choates and new age hucksters do just that, in absence of reason or fact.

>>19101112
go fuck yourself, and your shallow understanding.

the girls are kept until they are of age, and married off, the girls (tribe in general) were part of the descendants of Abraham. the rest were idolaters, and adulterers, and the boys were killed off to prevent an act of vengeance

Deuteronomy 21:10
10“When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, 11and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, 12then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. 13“She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14“It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not mistreat her, because you have humbled her.

these people have laws you dense fuck.

>“It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not mistreat her, because you have humbled her.

> mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.

the bible makes it pretty clear, no fucking your slaves, no sex outside of marriage.

you CAN NOT FUCK YOUR SLAVES in judaic law.

>>19096429
as someone who walks the middle path I'm not sure who pisses me off more fundamentalist christian or satanists.

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>>19101148
>you dense fuck
>fell for a psyop that only idiots can fall for because its easily refuted by common personal experience.

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>>19101146
man, its almost like its a direct quote from the bible or something

>1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

are you a catholic or something?

>>19101145
lol, point of convergance is not a point of curvature, if you had a even a cheap telescope you can see the complete bottom of the city, the traffic, and etc etc. look up the bishop experiment.

also that picture is about 50 miles away, meaning it should be hidden under 1600feet of curvature. meaning NONE of those buildings should be visible.

there's an EQUATION to curvature that can be dis-proven.

fuck off.

>>19101162
>let me take a verse from the last book of the torah, and ignore the fact they have laws that prohibit putting your dick inside anything that you're not married to in the earlier books.
>let me ignore the fact you're not allowed to fuck slaves, or children according to the jew law so i can fit my own narrative

pretty liberal and progressive stance you had there.

>>19101146
also newagers don't understand the nature of sin, nor do they repent, and eradicate it from themselves. the hindus do understand sin quite well though, and repentance to universal law is strongly part of their code.

>>19101112
>>19101118
virginity does not mean child.

>>19101207
wow, thanks. Etymology is a wonderful thing.

>God is omnicient
>Humans have free will

Pick one faggots

>>19101213
apparently anon needed a lesson dipshit

>>19101169
>are you a catholic or something?
Do you honestly not see the ambiguity of that passage, or is the comfort provided by your preferred interpretation too precious to risk?

>>19101207
no but child does.
reread that tiny little sentence fragment again
>you had one job and...

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>>19101169

test

>>19101230
>Numbers 31:18
fair enough, I looked up a different translation and got caught up.

either way, it was against the law to fuck a child. They most likely meant to give them to their sons for wives.

>>19101229
I think its pretty simple? where is the kingdom of heaven? within yourself?

where does the bible say the kingdom of heaven is?

does it say its in the sky? no, the birds will precede you, does it say its in the ocean? no, it says the fish will precede you.

does it say that the kingdom of heaven is within yourself?

why yes, yes it does.

where does it say that the spirit of god dwells?

does it dwell within temples built by man? according to acts 7 now
48Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

49Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

50Hath not my hand made all these things?

acts 17:24
"The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;

man oh man, where does the spirit of God dwell in? I wonder if the bible has the answers.

>or is the comfort provided by your preferred interpretation too precious to risk?

ok, why don't you interpret it for me. infact why don't you tell me where the kingdom of heaven is, and where the spirit of god dwells?

>>19101266
>it was against the law to fuck a child

Got a verse on that?

I'm halfway through deuteronomy and I feel like I'm losing my mind.

>God wants them to splash blood on his altar.
>God loves animal sacrifice.
>God goes full on autist ordering at taco bell on cereal offerings.
>God opens the ground and swallows people.
>God appears AS fire.
>Attacks his (((chosen))) people with fire snakes.

I'm not done yet so it might well change my life but I'm not feeling it so far.

>>19101266
lol there were no laws back then.
the 10 commandments are incomplete.
nothing against rape or attacking minors.
open your eyes and see the horrible truth

>>19101214
Humans have free will because the Creator of All doesn't interfere with the reality in any way that will sway your opinion.

>>19101288
sexually immorality is a broad term. these people thought butt stuff was evil. And you're telling me you think child rape was cool with them?

>>19101364
But for omniscience to be possible everything must be preordained.

>>19101376
they thought homosexuality was evil. They didn't think sex slavery was evil. They didn't think polygamy was evil. They basically didn't find anything evil in any relationship between a man and a woman except where the woman wasn't in total subjugation.

>>19101380
That's not a rule. There's multiple possibilities and he just knows the outcome of them all. That's what omniscience is.

>>19101390
no, that's not omniscience. Free will isn't biblical anyway.

>I will harden pharoah's heart
>whom he hardeneth he hardeneth
>he works out all things according to his will

>>19101346
>>19101288
Deuteronomy 18
>18 ‘You shall not commit adultery.

adultery is sex outside of marriage, any kind of sexual intercourse outside of marriage is immoral. unless you get married, you are not to be having sex. and they usually don't marry off their children until after sexual maturity.

>nothing against rape or attacking minors.
one of Jacobs sisters was raped, so 2 of his sons killed everyone in the town "for turning their sister into a harlot" rapists are either forced to marry who they raped, or stoned.

>>19101332
animal sacrifice is a pretty sophisticated ritual with many rules, and always comes with a directed purpose. mostly repentance of sin, the remission of Sin can only be achieved through shedding blood, so yes, God does like it when you turn your face away from sin, there is a high price for a reclaimed mind. 2 things you should note, in the 4 vedas, all the rules for animal sacrifice match the bible word for word, and Jesus Christ met all the criteria for the rules of animal sacrifice.

>Attacks his (((chosen))) people with fire snakes.
i actually really like this verse. Imagine you're god, and you've been sending your chosen people the bread you give angels in heaven, who are currently wandering a desert for 40 years, and all of the sudden they go "fuck you, we're tired of this bullshit bread, we hate the fact that you feed while we're in the middle of the desert with no food" what is your initial reaction? do you beta out and send them meat? or do you show them whose boss, and make fiery snakes rain down?

they also immediately fixed the situation by repenting, with the brass snake in the wilderness in numbers 21;9

>>God appears AS fire.
he also appears as a man.

>>19101390
If you don't definitively know an outcome there is a shortfall in your knowledge.

>>19101406
Knowing all outcomes to all possibilities is exactly what omniscience is. That doesn't mean there was a plan for you going into this life unless it's one you planned for yourself.
>>19101415
When did I say he doesn't definitely know an outcome? You'd need a plan first. You can know the outcome of decisions made and not have a plan for you.

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>>19101412
>forced to marry who they raped

Yeah, that's the ticket

>>19101428
Because if he doesn't know which outcome is the truth then he's not omniscient. You're basically saying at this moment he doesn't even know who is in the book of life.

>>19101406
ezekiel tells God no when told to cook food with human excrement. the biggest indicator of free will is that you're able to deny the existence of God. Adam directly disobeys God. infact when God commands ezekiel to cook with human shit, he would, and should have known that Ezekiel was going to say no, he still asked to make a point

we live in 4 dimensions, the 4th being time which is a physical property, its possible to exist completely outside of time.

you have free will, just because god knows what you're going to do doesn't change that its your action, and not his. and yes, he influences things, but God had you on his mind before you were born, and counted the hairs on your head.

>>19101412
>forced to marry who they raped
yeah that makes it a whole lot better.
yeah, nothing wrong with that sentence.
I'm sure this did a great job at preventing a whole lot of rape. Remember when he sent two angels to sodom and they were about to be gang raped? how instead of just flexing some almighty power, some peon had to step in for them and give all of his underage daughters to be raped to death?
and god just watched the whole thing with a shit eating grin on his fucking face before nuking the place. These lax laws were never a prevention for the crimes and never well defined to begin with.
and killing a whole town because some faggot raped someone? why not just stop at the faggot and his defense?
just more hindsight is 20/20 bullshit

>>19101428
You can't definitively know an outcome if multiple outcomes are possible.

>>19101441
I never said he didn't ultimately know which decisions you're going to make, I said there was no plan. It doesn't compute that it means he has a plan for you just because he knows what's gonna happen. He said preordained, that has nothing to do with omniscience
>>19101458
Yes, you can, you can know the decisions someone is going to make without there it being planned, you don't even have to be omniscient for that

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>>19101433
>or stoned.
rapists were mostly stoned. as evidenced by the fact when ever someone rapes someone in the old testament they die pretty murderous deaths

Ammon raped his half sister Tamar, and died a pretty brutal death. I only mention the marriage part because of the part in genesis where one of Jacobs daugher's was raped, and the man who did it wanted to marry her.

>>19101457
>I'm sure this did a great job at preventing a whole lot of rape.
murdering an entire town for raping one girl is a pretty fucking strong prevention technique I'd say. This wasn't condoned by god either, thats just the way people rolled back then.

> how instead of just flexing some almighty power,
You cant stop evil people all the time, eventually you have to make an example to not do bad shit. Bad things happen so people can learn not to do evil, the point of learning of and experiencing evil was so that we could become like god instead of his glorified pets.

>>19101457
see >>19101473

>who did it wanted to marry her.
but his entire town was killed off. and i mean the entire town

>>19101473
most other kinds of thieves were stoned as well

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>>19101389
>they thought homosexuality was evil.
well, I sure fucking do.

>>19101376
and at this point I am starting to believe that anal is bad fucking news, 1) you poop from there, 2) it doesn't self lubricate 3) poop comes from there.

i have this wild idea that the HIV virus comes from mixing semen and fecal matter, and not form monkeys, as HIV is actually recorded as to have been existing in the US before the monkey fucker patient 0 showed up.

I think it's funny they believe that there is some "truth" If there is one it's probably pretty unimpressive.

>>19101488
honestly yeah, it probably feels like "shit I knew that the whole time, why didn't I fucking realize".

>>19101477
but that's exactly what not stopping absolute evil means. it means god is capable of apathy and indolence. As such, god is capable of sin.
If he is in all of us, he is as much a sinner as we. If we are created in his image, then he must be a sinner, who abhors himself.

also, missed this one
>usually don't marry off their children until after sexual maturity.

but apparently they did anyways. Even as you mention it, with nothing preventing underage or fixed marriage.

>>19101389
this
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If my friends are going to hell because they feel uncomfortable in their genders or being assigned as much respect as a stepstool, then I want to be there too

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>>19101271
>I think its pretty simple? where is the kingdom of heaven? within yourself?

So you believe after your passing you will live eternally within yourself?

When you call out to God, you call out to yourself?

>The spirit of God.

You do understand what this means. If so then you understand that the ideal of God is something that one can hold within himself. It does not mean that you are God or that you have an additional soul living within your vessel.

So tell me, who is God? Who is the Son? What is the Holy Spirit? What of the Elohim?

>>19101487
I don't support homosexuality. You're barely hanging onto a thread here. My point was really that there is no clear proscription against any arrangement involving one man officially wedded to any number of females of any description in the old testament.

>>19101487
It's not like piss is much better and anyway it's perfectly safe to eat your own poop because that bacteria already in your body anyway so poop isn't as dirty as you think.

>>19101505
Jesus allows the holy spirit to live within you, basically accumulating the good parts of yourself and allowing that part to live on.

God is the part of you that says "I AM". except he can truly claim and call himself by that idea of sentience's true name, which is a state of being, being the word we strive to fully understand.

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>>19101533
>Jesus allows the holy spirit to live within you,
By what agency? Do you believe Jesus is God the creator?

>basically accumulating the good parts of yourself and allowing that part to live on.
Where does the rest of you go? What cleaves your soul into fragments and why?

>God is the part of you that says "I AM".
Gods infinite nature is what NECESSITATES "I AM" in reply to the universal question of being.

I pray the ground you stand upon is more stable than I perceive.

>>19101502
Its just a widespread mental disorder. The point of Christianity is to better yourself by pushing away impure thoughts. A christian could be gay as fuck but as long as he tries not to act on it he's forgiven.

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>>19101505
>So you believe after your passing you will live eternally within yourself?
here's a fun fact about physics, our universe has limits, when an object becomes too big, or too small, it gains this property called non-locality, which means it becomes everywhere at once. so yes, the kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, and within this mustard seed is a tree that houses all the birds of heaven, so yes, I'll live eternally in the kingdom of heaven.

>When you call out to God, you call out to yourself?
I don't call out to God, I search for him within myself.

>It does not mean that you are God or that you have an additional soul living within your vessel.

fun fact, there is a difference between a spirit, and a soul. God releases spirits of deception in 1 kings 22:22 and spirits that destroy the wisdom of the wise, which basically means spirits of stupidity in 1st Corinthians 1:19

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
this is why you need to read your old testament.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?

WHAT DID JESUS MEAN BY THIS


So tell me, who is God? Who is the Son? What is the Holy Spirit?

God is the father, the Son is Jesus Christ the messiah, the holy spirit is the mother.

>Elohim?
probably the Archons, probably not. tough call.

>>19101515
>pee drinking
provetb 5:15
Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.
its actually really healthy to drink your own piss. look up urine therapy, people cure cancer, aids, hepatitis, and numerous incurable diseases, its the worlds greatest medicine.

>>19101509
yes, polygamy is a thing in the bible. i generally believe there are more women born than men in the first place. in the new testament things take a turn and jesus generally promites the idea of marriage between 1 man and 1 woman.

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>gnostic fundamentalist

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>>19101589
Okay so its settled. I guess Yah is a Cunnysieur

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>>19101582
George Lincoln Rockwell made the bold claim that pray away the gay works.

>>19101578
well lets put it this way, I think the earth is stationary, and not flying through space in anyway, shape, or form, that it is fixed upon foundations so that the earth will never be moved, and the sun and moon revovle around it, and covered by a glass dome

you think the earth is flying through space, spinning at 1,000 miles an hour, following the sun at 66,000 miles per hour, while the sun is flying at another million miles per hour, and protected by flimsy air in a vaccum

>>19101498

>but apparently they did anyways. Even as you mention it, with nothing preventing underage or fixed marriage.

they really didn't. marriage didn't come until after puberty.

> As such, god is capable of sin.
If he is in all of us, he is as much a sinner as we. If we are created in his image, then he must be a sinner, who abhors himself.

^this has to be the dumbest thing I'll read all day.

Gospel of Mary Magdalen
25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin, but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

>>19101578
> Do you believe Jesus is God the creator?
part of the trinity, so yes.

>Where does the rest of you go? What cleaves your soul into fragments and why?
You realise the truth and reject the bad yourself, remember its a choice to start practicing religion in the first place.

>Gods infinite nature is what NECESSITATES "I AM" in reply to the universal question of being.

Jesus is Gods avatar, in the way that my body is how I see myself, but my mind is "me".

so gods there, says "I AM" to himself, and that creates the image of jesus as that first manifestation of self. He was there before, he was that word, but it is also his manifestation of being, thus, god himself.

>>19101607
and like i said, ,in the gnostic gospels it states that Yadaboath is the demiruge, and Yahweh is NOT the demiruge.

>>19101654
it explicitly says so? where? Furthermore what does the demiurge actually even do in you perspecitve? He doesn't create the world, he doesn't terrorize a bunch of sandniggers. Why should anyone care?

>>19100890
Didn't Christ come from the imagination of the tzaddikim alien savior cult?

>>19101621
we already destroyed flat earth in this very thread. Its done.

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>>19101589
>here's a fun fact
Now we are discussing physics? I was hoping you would regale me with theories of our essence residing within our rotting husks until rapture. But instead I am treated to kitchen table physics. Very choatey indead, not that there is anything wrong with that.

>fun fact, there is a difference between a spirit, and a soul.

Yes there is, but I do not think that it implies being split in twain upon passing.

>probably the Archons, probably not. tough call.
Ah yes, the flayed beings that are securely fastened into their celestial firmaments?

>God is the father, the Son is Jesus Christ the messiah, the holy spirit is the mother.
So the trinity did not exist before the birth of Christ? The mother, does this imply the human responsible for the immaculate conception?

>>19101683
Not that guy but you actually get another body in the Heavens. Unless you merge with the Creator of All.

>>19101683
>So the trinity did not exist before the birth of Christ?

Good question, its symbolic. God was a fixed point, invented time, and thus created a sort of beginning and ending of his journey for us time things, in the form of jesus. Himself being God and perfect, reduced to the bottom of creation, and forced to edify all the work he had done. The holy spirit is basically like the blueprint of god being given to mortals. Jesus was god if he was created human instead of just, well, being. This spirit is given to people by Gods human manifestation on earth, Jesus, to his so called 'chosen'. This assures us that we are part of gods plan even though we're starting off life being sinful shit people.

If by some crazy fuck up you dont have the holy spirit, jesus will straight up tell you he had no idea you existed, which is fucking terrifying, but were told jesus is holding back his knowledge, or "doesnt know" as some put it. When God defeats death everything is revealed, so thats going to be a huge fucking surprise for everything but God the father, who is the fullness of the trinity. Not to take away from jesus or the holy spirit though, they'll just act surprised.

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>>19101662
yes, it does. what you're doing is the equivalent of calling jesus christ the daughter of god. read On the Origin of the World, and Nature of the Rulers.

> Furthermore what does the demiurge actually even do in you perspecitve?

well not my perspective but its what the gnostic gospels suggest. you remember how God hardens pharaoh's heart? and makes him put hardships on the hebrews of Egypt? Yadaboath works what the Father's will is while thinking he's doing it on his own accord. that his hand is pulled like the strings of a puppet.

the story of Genesis goes much deeper in the gnostic gospels.

>>19101670
no

>>19101672
no, you really didn't.

>>19101683

>Ah yes, the flayed beings that are securely fastened into their celestial firmaments?

they're the planets, or wandering stars, and apparently 6 of them are going to be destroyed.

>So the trinity did not exist before the birth of Christ?

Christ exists outside of space-time. infact if I understand these gospels right, while Yahweh created Jesus, Jesus created the collection of Aeons that would eventually lead to the creation of Yadaboath, in which Yadaboath created Yahweh (yahweh along with 6 others were originally part of the 7 archons, until Yahweh repented to the fullness, and became one with it) and then Yahweh created Jesus Christ. this matches a hindu poem where shiva states his son his Vishnu, that his son is Brahma, and his son is Shiva, making Shiva his own great grandfather, which in turn means Jesus Christ is his own great grandfather

> The mother, does this imply the human responsible for the immaculate conception?

I dunno, I have to re-read the chapter I found this in, the idea is that the holy spirit is what creates life, and the Father is what lays the foundations for life, which is mirroed by Eve being "the mother of all life"

>>19101683
>Yes there is, but I do not think that it implies being split in twain upon passing.

niether do I. but it doesn't change the fact the soul is different than the holy spirit, and spirits are companions, trials, instructors, things that generally benefit the soul

>Now we are discussing physics?

string theory relates to the bible. nicodemus basically invented string theory (10 dimensional space) from studying the Torah in the 12th or 13th century.

>they're the planets, or wandering stars, and apparently 6 of them are going to be destroyed.

this is in the gospel of judas btw, and it relates to Enoch.

>>19100819
>nowhere in their gospels do they say

That you have to take their gospels as literal teachings.

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>>19101765
you still haven''t addressed my 200 hours in mspaint. There is no reason an object should obscure another object as a matter of the lines of perspective converging. The only way this can happen is if the object, in this case the horizon is closer than the objects it is obscuring.

>>19101233

When you stare down a hallway you don't see the right hand wall arbitrarily overtake the left hand wall. If the hallway is long enough it just becomes increasingly difficult to distinguish the entities. Therefore you cannot see half of a giant sun or half of a skyline peeking over the horizon unless there is a curvature.

>>19101683
Just because there are two roads you can go on, in the long run...there's still time to change the road you're on.

Why there is such a negative (perhaps a little too negative) perception of the Archon as opposed to an Other doesn't mean one is more right and less wrong relative to each other. Which densities are you people fighting in to describe an Archon as a flayed man?

>>19101765
So he's just another hitman/fallguy like Satan. Works for me. I'm more of a maltheist anyway.

>>19101796
Flayed being*

>>19101683
>the flayed beings that are securely fastened into their celestial firmaments?

Where'd you pick that from?

>>19101789
I say giant sun because I don't want any of that lensing crap.

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>gnostics citing the text as if it were some kind of bible that you have to memorize

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>>19101789
thats because your paint was crap, and has nothing to do with the way perspective actually works, your current post is fallacious.

>>19101783
man, this was a nigger tier post. I take the bible literally, ans literal teachings, there's no reason why I shouldn't take the gnostic gospels as literal teachings to.

to this day, I'm royally convinced that the bible divinely gave me the gospel of mary magdalen.

>>19101798
well anon, i don't know what to tell you. you have a soul, and that soul is directly tied to Jesus Christ/Krishna who I'm reasonably sure are the same person.


>>19101798

>>19101825
>there's no reason why I shouldn't take the gnostic gospels as literal teachings

That's not how gnosticism works

>>19101815
>luke warm christians ignore 1 John 4:1, Acts 17:11, and Proverbs 18:13

>>19101827
ok, how does it work then? because I'm pretty sure most of these gospels are words of Jesus Christ
John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.


>to this day, I'm royally convinced that the bible divinely gave me the gospel of mary magdalen.

>>19101838
>how does it work then?

Every text has an inner teaching, a syncretic teaching that you must comprehend. The text themselves are considered myths.

>>19096429

At least they read one.

>>19101621
puberty doesnt mean maturity, stop skipping around the subject.

and for someone with such a high opinion of himself, you just verified my statement.
there is sin. and you still didn't address the fact that god gets his rocks off watching violence, rape and murder.

so what was this dumbness you spoke of?
please tell me more. explain how this isn't another apocalyptic, head-in-the-sand, bigoted hugbox cult.

>>19101582
fuck that noise

>>19101842
Proverbs 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

yes, I realize the gnostic gospels are veils of inner teachings and the best way to recieve the inner teaching is to take it literally, and wonder what it means metaphorically.

>the texts themselves are considered myths
I do not think the acts of peter, the revelations of paul, james, etc are myths, but rather things they actually did and saw, in order to perpetuate the teachings.

the same way I literally think Moses was able to turn a staff into a snake, that you're literally suppose to play with snakes, drink poison, etc etc in mark 16:17-18, but are symbolic of things like the shakti at the base of the spine.

14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.

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>>19101704
>Not that guy but you actually get another body in the Heavens.

Yes but what are the heavens? Is it the "astral plane"? The divine garden of god? Are we as human beings even allowed to dwell there?

>Good question, its symbolic.
Or maybe it is an actual trinity of God and his two sons? Perhaps the actual trinity predates mankind and the cobbled together text you keep quoting with such ardent authority?

How can you possibly understand the future if cannot clearly see the past?

How can you speak on the nature of things when the breadth of your knowledge is contained in a translated sentence of questionable origin? Do you believe your conjecture to be divine?

>If by some crazy fuck up you dont have the holy spirit
I know the holy spirit and it lives within my heart. It is my teacher, my guiding light.

I know the Son and how he toiled long before the dawn of man.

I know the father and of his inception from those that escaped the great without to the great dismay of what was to became the worm.

The rewritten puzzle like statements being quoted as law seem quite open to interpretation. Interpretation that can bend to desires of men and those that have need to placate an empire.

>>19101825
> and has nothing to do with the way perspective actually works

Which is exactly why I created it. The sun setting has nothing to do with the way perspective works. On flat earth a sun set would involve the distance of the sun from the horizon in proportion to its size being maintained entirely and the sun merely becoming increasingly small until its a speck. In fact its sort of a non-starter to even use perspective models from the visual arts because where have people been perceiving things except on earth? But all I wanted to do was show the absurdity of a horizon (projection of a flat surface to a vanishing point) overtaking something coming in from the other side.

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>>19101860
>the best way to recieve the inner teaching is to take it literally

>>19101857
puberty does mean maturity. i'm not skipping around anything, when kids were done with puberty, and became adults, they were married off to make children. life was a lot different several thousand years ago, between 8000-5000 years people had a life-span of several hundred years.

>nd you still didn't address the fact that god gets his rocks off watching violence, rape and murder.

>inb4 god commanded Joshua to kill every man woman child, and lifestock of cannan.
they were all giants, God commanded Joshua to kill a land of giants.

all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. 33"There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight."

and these giants had the tendency to fuck their animals, or create chimeras with sorcery, which is why god commanded to kill even the lifestock

no, God hates stonings, he hates violence, he hates sin, and hates murder. God murders things with a heavy heart, this is why the jews rejected Jesus, they were expecting a conqueror, and great military commander, but they got a pacifist.

>there is sin
there is no sin, but it is you who make sin when you do things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

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>>19101866
>On flat earth a sun set would involve the distance of the sun from the horizon in proportion to its size being maintained entirely and the sun merely becoming increasingly small until its a speck.

here's a video of exactly that happening

>>19101873
>implying catholics would ever hand out the bible.

>>19101865
>Yes but what are the heavens? Is it the "astral plane"? The divine garden of god? Are we as human beings even allowed to dwell there?
The Astral plane is something different, the Heavens are densities with prime matter. No, as human beings you're not allowed to dwell there as the dead are not allowed. Each solar system in star sectors has dimensions attached to them. So you can only see the dimensions attached to the solar system you were born in, unless you go as deep as you can go into spirituality and real Divine Providence happens for you. For example, Jesus might be the God of the Watchtowers, the one who is supposed to rule here, but that doesn't mean he's the Creator of All.

>>19101865
The impression of spiritus sanctum is dripping off you like you got out of a pool with the thought itself. I assure you, that although as individuals we may leave a trail for others to follow as we cut through the brush- faith in the furthest reaches of the future could be linked to the foundations started and sometimes forgotten in the past. Do not alienate those that wish to dwell within both.

>>19101865
>Or maybe it is an actual trinity of God and his two sons? Perhaps the actual trinity predates mankind and the cobbled together text you keep quoting with such ardent authority?

are you kidding? i was agreeing with that. The trinity is three divine beings, but the father is the one that knows everything. i wouldnt say they are children of the father but you can say that from a point of view that means the same thing. of course i'm saying it predates mankind what the shit. You're fucking crazy with this flat earth, literal translation, "i know the father" bullshit. No one knows the father but the son, and no one has a clear understanding of jesus or you'd be the next messiah. I'm done. This is what happens when people talk to christians, they get dumbasses like you mixing it together with shit that was found in the 40s written by people that thought they knew more about jesus than the fucking people that wrote the bible.

>>19101894
No, somebody made that video up. You know how I know? I've never seen the sun do that in my fucking life. The reason I know flat earth is bullshit is my lifetime of watching sunsets and various globular phenomenon have already debunked it. I don't trust Copernicus and much less Einstein or Michio Cucku. On the other hand I definitely trust that I have seen the sun dip below the horizon on the ocean on many occasions. So flat earth is done. Next dumb psyop pls

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>>19101941
you've never been on the equator, nor have you ever watched a sunset from 1000 feet. the depending on your latitude.

Homer thought the earth was a flat disc, Pythagoras thought it was a sphere.

Homer was right, the scriptures are right, and you're wrong.

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>>19101865
>my post

>>19101804
>Where'd you pick that from?
A Gnostic, of course. This was proceeded with talk of his planned ascension into godhood. There was also the belief that he was being held here against his will. A very conflicted individual to say the least, imo.

>>19101796
>Why there is such a negative (perhaps a little too negative) perception of the Archon

I do not have a negative view of them at all.

They are the Annuna and I shall venerate them to my dying day.

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>>19101888
I have seen people get hit by puberty like a freight train at 12. statement null and void

giants? Nephilim? people who lived hundreds of years old 8000-5000 years ago?

ok
where da fuck are you getting all this shit?

By that statement alone you are also admitting the nephilim are real(thus succubi and incubi are real)
and even if the people in question lived that long it defies logic and medicinal advancements of that time. Also that would mean that the people who were taking advantage of before our legal age, would have lived to suffer through it for several hundred years. Can you see the evil yet?
God murders things with a heavy heart?
ffs

and yes, you just admitted what you said again. there is sin. that which falls under the categories thrown upon us as sin also fit god.
it simply means there was nobody keeping count when he was doing it and one day he just up and said "alright bitches, step in line or you are even more fucked than you are now".

>>19101951
it doesn't matter because as soon as the sun dips below the horizon flat earth is done. If I'm on a cliff overlooking the sea and I see half a sun then I know that the earth has some curvature. Maybe its a torus, I don't know. But I know at that moment its not flat.

>>19101966
>taken advantage of
fucken a

>>19101966
>where da fuck are you getting all this shit?

the bible, hindu mythology, pretty much every continent has stories of people 1) living longer 2) giants

in the americas they have stories of the 6 fingered men, who were so tall, and so strong that they could run along side a buffalo, pick it up, rip off its leg, and eat it all without breaking its stride.

and yes, pretty much 90% of the supernatural is real, you're on a paranormal board, what do you expect?

>there is sin.
no, there really isn't, expect those who make sin by doing unclean things.

look you're literally not allowed to have sex with anyone but your wife according to the bible, that is to commit sexual immorality, no one in the bible commands anyone to rape, and basically everyone in the bible who did rape someone died to death. and yes, there is a lot of killing in the bible, but there's also batshit evil in the land.

>God murders things with a heavy heart?
well to be honest, there really is no way to kill someone, yes in numbers god straight up kills people with flaming giant snakes, but there's also the fact the soul is immortal, and can never die, the flesh can die, but the soul can not.

>Also that would mean that the people who were taking advantage of before our legal age, would have lived to suffer through it for several hundred years.
>I have seen people get hit by puberty like a freight train at 12
you're honestly an idiot. If i was 13 years old in a hewbrew torah reading society, I would have been married at 13 years old. and the hundred.

also the age where people lived for hundreds of years has about a 2600 year difference than when Moses was around. at the End of Genesis was when the agespan went from 900 years to 120 years. but yes generally around this time people in egypt, greece, and babylonia lived to be several hundred years old until about 8000-4500BC, and by the time 4000BC rolled around people had a 120 lifespan. Moses wasn't born until about 1400BC

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>>19101971
nah, it really doesn't the sun is only about 32 miles in diameter, and 3500 miles in the air.

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>>19101951
The scriptures merely imply that it either hangs upon nothing or sits on pillars. That doesn't necessitate that it is any particular shape. Not to mention what does it matter? I'm a geocentrist. Geocentrism has massive theological implications. Something autistic like the exact shape of the earth doesn't.

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>>19102023
the bible says circle, I tend to believe its a disc. most scriptures indicate its a type of wheel. the only one where the shape is incredibly whack is the egpytian because they relate the earth to an actual body rather than a platofrm of existence.

it doesn't matter, it does matter. if you're willing to take the theology at its word since you understand the earth is stationary, then there's no point in trying to assume its a different shape.

>>19101953
>A very conflicted individual

Why, because he knows what's up?

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>>19096634
wow
really really really really really makes you think

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>>19101913
What is the basis for anything you have said?

>"i know the father" bullshit.
No one speaks with the father.

>This is what happens when people talk to christians, they get dumbasses like you mixing it together with shit that was found in the 40s written by people that thought they knew more about jesus than the fucking people that wrote the bible.

What does any of that angry gibberish even mean?

40's, Jesus, people that wrote the bible? Get your thoughts in order friend. If you have something to say, try doing it in a coherent manner.

>>19101906
>The impression of spiritus sanctum is dripping off you like you got out of a pool with the thought itself.
Perhaps it is because I find the concept questionable. I thought I made that quite clear.

>Do not alienate those that wish to dwell within both.

I guess I should defer to all differing views I encounter as stating my own is tantamount to alienation or sum such?

Goodness, it sure is fun talking to Gnostics. I genuinely mean that...

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>>19102021
I think I underestimated just what an idiot you are. That has sweet fuck all to do with anything. What, is the water somehow 3501 miles in the air? You're just a dumb hick my dude. I see this idiotic belief system you've concatenated from various sources and I think I realize why you're so fucked up. You've synthesized the newage spiritual woowoo you got from your mom along with some good ol' southern baptism from your dad and you've managed to come up with the stupidest most incongruous set of beliefs possible. whaddaya think about that?

>>19096634
Irenaeus was a pharisee, and promoted pharisee culture which is infact everything jesus christ is going to destroy, the fact that he stated "that the truth of the scriptures are only revealed in the church" makes him an idiot to be disregarded. try reading acts 17:24 and Acts 7_48-50

against heresies /=/ talmudic culture. you promote eating the leaven of the pharisees Matthew 16:6

>>19102016
yep underage marriage and no rebuttals against fixed marriage/ rape marriages after all. I'm the idiot, when even you prove the fact and still act like its nothing at all. fucking prick.
yeah, I'm an idiot for even bothering to keep talking to you.

As for merging all this mythos together, you are already reading about other shit that is forbidden in your neat little bible. All the magick as well. god is a twisted little man, shoving his fingers in a cage and torturing his little pets. we are his reflections, worrisome, little, chaos machines.

So go forth and keep living in your own twisted beliefs.
I'll just wait for a just hell. I can see why the greeks and romans had no qualms about stepping into the underworld now.

>>19102036
actually out of those I'll take the Hindu conception. at least it has a curve. Man those Hindus were ahead of their time

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>>19102054
>What, is the water somehow 3501 miles in the air

>nah, it really doesn't the sun is only about 32 miles in diameter, and 3500 miles in the air.

where did you get water from?

>You've synthesized the newage spiritual woowoo

pretty much anything and everything i refer to comes from before the council of nicea compiled the first bible.

you don't think its in harmony because you anything about anything.

most of everything I've referenced comes from the bible in the first place.

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>>19102043
>Why, because he knows what's up?
This may very well be true.

But the constant contradiction, warping of written historical fact and make it up as go nature of his mysticism understanding tell me otherwise.

He reminded me of a harikrishna, only hostile. He was quite fixated on killing the follows of yabada...

I stated he was free to leave any time he wanted. This created more hostility.

Guess, I am just not capable of grasping "whats up"...

>>19102089

Either you see the problem or are part of it.

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>>19102054
MY FUCKING SIDES

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>>19102094
What is the problem?

Who or what needs to be destroyed?

>>19102082
>where did you get that from

because the sun has to get behind the water somehow

>you don't think its in harmony because you anything about anything.


I'm not talking about me here. I started the thread. Of course I believe all that shit has merit. I take a syncretic approach to religions. You've just got one foot in heresy and the other in dogma and the fact that you thought this was reasonable makes you a moron.

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>>19102076
the vedic model is still incredibly flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxxItzo_rPg

like I said, I remain convinced that Krishna and Jesus are of the same entity, and Brahman and Yahweh are the same.

>>19102070
I actually don't think there are any rape marraiges in the bible, and I just gave a rebuttal against rape, every single time it ends in death.

>reading other shit that is forbidden in your neat little bible
its actually the church that forbids it, the bible doesn't at all

1 John 4:1
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


there really isn't anything in the bible that prevents me from studying other scriptures

>underage marraige
man, you're a real idiot after puberty they arranged marriages, just because you still haven't hit puberty at 24 doesn't mean anything.

I base my beliefs on scriptures, and scripture alone.

>So go forth and keep living in your own twisted beliefs.
ok I'll keep experiencing higher states of consciousness, and you can go to hell.

> why the greeks and romans had no qualms about stepping into the underworld now.

only the unenlightened are unable to confront the snares of death, and break open the gates of hades.

>>19102115

See, most of what is here is a problem, everything is designed to trap you and there are people who work for that goal too, so he may not very very likeable, the gnostic guy, when he is aware of said things.

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>>19102118
it obviously doesn't go under the water, but rotates in a circle around the equator, giving light to half the world.

it doesnt disappear under anything, there is no curvature.

you have to understand the geocentric model in order to disprove it.

the earth doesn't move.

>>19102115
>babylon
Nebuchadnezzar wrote Daniel 4

Cyrus the Great was given a 150 year old school with his name on it from Isaiah 44-45, and gave massive amounts of wealth to rebuild jerusalem

Alexander the Great visited Jerusalem and recieved a discourse in daniel 8 that told him he was the Greece king that would crush persia

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>>19102142
>it doesnt disappear under anything, there is no curvature.

And yet here it is all the same, doing that very thing you said it wouldn't do.

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>>19102139
Yes, I understand everything you have said.

I have no interest in trapping you here or anywhere. The Gods I have known and worshipped for over 30 years have no interest of keeping you here or anywhere.

You have free will, you are welcome to use it.

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>>19102158
you can bring the bottom of the sun back into full view with a telescope, or zoom function on the camera, you can even bring it back into full view by just increasing your elevation.

>>19102163
>. The Gods I have known and worshipped for over 30 years have no interest of keeping you here or anywhere.

Who do you worship?

>>19102165
Even if you could, that's irrelevant. Okay here's another question, have you ever seen the sky cut off half of an object on the ground?

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>>19102163
none of those gods are willing to die in your place for sins against universal law. none of them are the ones who gave every living thing its ability to breath, noine of those beings have the abilitiy to destroy/forgive your sins against universal law. and none of those beings can resurrect themselves from death

>I have no interest in trapping you here or anywhere.
you shit on the the path that frees you.

>. The Gods I have known and worshipped for over 30 years have no interest of keeping you here or anywhere.

nice larp.

>>19102186
I wanna kill all these gods

>>19102181
yes, thats the point of convergence, and you can always bring the object back into full view with a telescope or zooming lens, topographical map compilations of kansas, and florida have shown the states to be flat as pancakes

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the point of convergence is just that, a point of convergence. If something overlaps something else in the field of vision then it means one thing is in the foreground and the other is in the background. If the thing in the foreground is in the sea and you are therefore higher up then we must assume that we're actually staring up a curve. This is not even up for debate.

>>19102133
alright last response troll

>there really isn't anything in the bible that prevents me from studying other scriptures

Jeremiah 27:9
Micah 3:7
Malachi 3:5
Revelation 21:8
Revelation 22:15

>after puberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty
yeah let's just generalize over everything. no problem there.

>only the unenlightened are unable to confront the snares of death, and break open the gates of hades.

hahahahaha, boy are you in for a suprise
and I embrace death. Love that shit. cheers

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>>19102206
FUCK. Now I'm mad

If the thing in the foreground IS the sea and you are by necessity higher up then we must assume we are staring up a curve. This is not even up for debate as it wasn't the last time I posted this.

>>19102186
actually they can live long after death.
Who are you to say they were not a part of creation? how do you know what they can or cannot do? based off of modernist scriptures?
These cultures existed long before the bible appeared.

>>19102209
>And I embrace death
No you don't because you're already dead and you're not doing shit to fix it.

>>19102225
lets say they did. Why would you root for anyone but #1 though?

>>19102228

What should he do, enter continual suicide like christians do? Because christianity kills the spirit and soul.

>>19102209
OH BOI, HERE WE GO.
>jeremiah
>So do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your interpreters of dreams, your mediums or your sorcerers who tell you, 'You will not serve the king of Babylon.'

you took this out of context, this was God personally telling Judah's King to submit to Babylonian captivity or he'll destroy him and Judah, but Judah's king Zedekiah listened to his advisors, and rebelled against babylon, so he destroyed them

idiot strike #1

Michah

7The seers will be ashamed
And the diviners will be embarrassed.
Indeed, they will all cover their mouths
Because there is no answer from God.

ok, how does this prevent me from reading the gospel of thomas? why does this prevent me from reading the book of enoch?

no context, idiot strike #2


Malachi 3:5
5"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.

lets take a look at the next 2 verses

6“For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.

7“From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from My statutes and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you,” says the LORD of hosts. “But you say, ‘How shall we return?’

man, its almost like there's this thing called context.
Revelation

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

15But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

nope, thing here that says I can't read the Gita

>>19102245
I don't know, I'm here just like you so I wouldn't know. I'm no Christ/Savior, just a lowly being.

>>19102255
>lowly being

You're a lowly being? That sucks, I'm human, a trapped divine spark with the potential to become truly preternatural and in some cases to become a deity, lesser than the true God, yes, but still a god.

Still, it's amazing that you can talk, what are you? A tick or something?

>>19102165
this reeks of photoshop. I'm pretty sure they can put out a few aftereffects videos in order to keep the psyop going. Even if its not I have a personally and repeatedly observed counterexample to flat earth as I'm sure most people do. Meanwhile you haven't resolved it and instead you keep posting this bullshit.

>>19102268
Even worse, a non-Gnostic human being

>>19102245
this has to be the biggest lie I'll ever see in my life.

Sin kills the soul, and opens you up to unclean spirits which further trap the soul in continuous death

>>19102209
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty
yeah let's just generalize over everything. no problem there.

like i said the bible supports marraige after puberty

7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.

8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God, and thou becamest mine.


marriage is not ordained until after the breasts are fashioned and developed

also for the rest of >>19102247
1 John 4:1
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

allows me to read what ever I want. even the Kabbalah, even the goatfucking book of the quran

>>19102225
angels were part of creation, but they are not to be worshiped, nor do they allow you to worship them unless they are unclean/fallen.

I know what they can and can not do because they are not the monothesitic creator that every religion has its roots in. even hinduism has a single monotheistic God called Brahman, in which anyone can have a personal relationship through their Atman, which is the soul.

> based off of modernist scriptures?
what year even constitutes as modernist scripture? the youngest thing I probably have is a yoga book written in the 15th century AD. everything else is either BC, or before 600 AD.

>>19101765
>no
Dead sea scrolls

>>19102277
>this has to be the biggest lie I'll ever see in my life.

You speak as if christianity were true.

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>>19102269
>guys its photoshop, but these aren't.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/people/RSimmon.html


The last time anyone took a photograph from above low Earth orbit that showed an entire hemisphere (one side of a globe) was in 1972 during Apollo 17. NASA’s Earth Observing System (EOS) satellites were designed to give a check-up of Earth’s health. By 2002, we finally had enough data to make a snap shot of the entire Earth. So we did. The hard part was creating a flat map of the Earth’s surface with four months’ of satellite data. Reto Stockli, now at the Swiss Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology, did much of this work. Then we wrapped the flat map around a ball. My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. That ball became the famous Blue Marble.

>>19102295
those are probably photoshop too. I can write all of you stupid fuckers off. Why not? I don't have to pick sides.

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>>19102269
also this was spoken like someone who has never been outside

>>19102293
yes, I'm a christian mystic.

>>19102301
>I'm a christian mystic

So you're deluded beyond reasoning? And what does a mystic do in a cesspool of zoophilia and other customs?

Wanking the sardine?

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>>19102303
>And what does a mystic do in a cesspool of zoophilia and other customs?

man, its like the bible forbids beastiality or something, while the quran promotes goatfucking

>So you're deluded beyond reasoning?
I tookt he time to understand the 7 chakras aren't just something on a TV show, but real energy points that interact with spacetime, and the 10 dimensional universe.


>Wanking the sardine?
uh huh, I can see why you wish you were dead.

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>>19102301
Well that I will believe. Obviously rays parallel to eachother will appear to fan out. Its called perspective

>>19102312
>He thinks the Universe is 10 dimensional
There are way many more dimensions than that, there's so many pocket dimensions that the densities aren't reliable as a map.

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>>19102315
no, just no.

the sun is small, and localized to the earths atmosphere. the firmament is real, and everything NASA has ever put out has been fake, everything in the past several hundred years has been fake.

>>19102279
what about them

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>>19102332
okay so its a donut

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>>19102321
Einstein's theory of relativity is a complete hoax the universe has 10 dimensions according to string theory, length height, width, and time are the 1st 4, the other 6 we can't seek. this is confirmed by the notion of the 7 heavens. the first heaven being made of the first 4 dimensions, the other 6 heavens being unseen.

the gnostic gospels go further into there being an 8th, and 9th heaven. we recently just broke an 11th and 12th dimension in string theory, but these exist outside the universe.

also according to dantes inferno, and vedic cosmology, there are 9 levels of hell. which means there are 9 more dimensions below our 10 dimensional universe, so far there's 21

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>>19102339
nah, its a butterfly.

>>19102347
>string theory
>flat earth

What kind of salad bar faggot are you? Do you even know what a dimension is? Its not a place. That's just a scifi meme. Its like if you called the X coordinate line a "heaven" and the Y coordinate line a "hell". They aren't places unto themselves.

>>19102358
a dimension is a capacity for space.

>>19102347
The seven heavens were based on the planets seen in the sky, one of those pocket dimensions I was talking about. This is why when people 'ascended' to Heaven, they saw things like trees and things of that nature. The ten celestial bodies (including the sun) aren't actually enough to warrant saying there's ten dimensions. There's probably an infinite amount of dimensions (including the pocket dimensions) because every star sector/solar system has some dimensions attached to them with different gods ruling the star sectors and planets..

>>19102339
Lol somehow more believable

>>19102364
if hell and heaven are dimensions then you are currently existing in both of them at once and you simply haven't perceived them. However more that a retarded flat model of the world your holy book would suggest that hell is under the ground and therefore a physical place.

>>19102373
see http://i.4cdn.org/x/1496549527768.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/x/1496564470804.jpg

and yes, part of the divine comedy states your soul can be in hell while your physical body is still living, your body here, the mortal life creates the eternal life. you physically interact with all 10, or 21 dimensions of reality in this 4 dimensional existence

hmm, Dantes inferno has 8 hot hells, and 1 cold hell, but the vedas seem to build on there being 8 more cold hells. so the dimension count just went up to 29.

>>19102367
well, according to Paul in one of the gnostic revelations, the heavens are real places, in the 3rd heaven (not hell) paul saw an Angel, yes an angel whip a confused person as she asked "what was my sin" and she was put into a new body to be reincarnated. while he ascended past to meet the savoir and the father.

>>19102406
These are the Watchtowers, the Heavens attached to them are real because they are planets like this one. Like Saturn has a different ecology in the other dimension (read Heaven) than it does here because this is the realm of the dead.

>>19102420
well, not to sound like a broken record, but according to the gospel of judas, 6 of the wandering stars which are the planets are going to be destroyed. meaning 6 of the heavens are going to be destroyed by christ.

>>19102426
The Christ? Or Jesus? Have to let you know, apparently there's a difference.

>>19102431
Jesus Christ?

you're going to tell me how you developed a difference

>>19101487
Conflating gays as pedophiles is hating the sinner not the sin. Isn't it? Isn't there original sin? Does this not mean that to condemn them for being gay, because of you believing that their being gay will lead to pedophilia, is condemning all sinners for having the same potential for evil as them? And isn't that insinuating that everyone is potentially pederast? So if that's the case, if you really stick to your bullshit, then basically there is no reason to conflate the two (homosexuality and pedophilia) except to confirm your own bullshit to yourself- and which also, ironically, puts you in the same category as them, as potential sinner, and as potential pederast, and it wouldn't be because you're gay, but because you're simply human. So, in otherwords, your conflation is bullshit.

>>19102438
Apparently The Christ (best name they have for him) goes by a different name and came in a different era than the one Jesus was in. Not gonna tell you where I got the information from because then you'll dismiss it.

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>>19102439
looks like i triggered a fag.
I'm not conflating anything. sexual immorality leads to worse sexual immorality. when you let sex leave the sanctity of marriage you get degeneracy, and about 1/3 of pedophiles are homosexuals, which are less than 2% of the population. if homosexuality was a healthy behavoir wouldn't only 2% of pedophiles be homosexual? fucking without sentimental love is wrong, fucking without being married is wrong. I woefully regret having sex with any of the women that I did.

>Conflating gays as pedophiles is hating the sinner not the sin. Isn't it?
no, it isn't, linking homosexuality with a rise in child abuse is noticing a pattern, faggots practice disgusting habits. sex belongs to man and woman only.

>pic related

pray away the gay anon, you know its wrong to take it up the butt.
>Isn't there original sin?

Gospel of Mary Magdalen
25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin, but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

no, there is no original sin.

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>>19102442
I consider all the gnostic gospels divinely inspired canon. link me your source, I dismiss information based on the information, not its source. I stand by Alberto Rivera's testimony that the catholic church invented Islam if you've ever seen it, and I stand by John Todds tapes despite the huge amount of discrediting information has gone into them

>Apparently The Christ (best name they have for him) goes by a different name and came in a different era than the one Jesus was in.

yes, the gospel of judas makes it a point to note there is a difference between Christ, and the man of Christ, for Jesus told Judas "you will sacrifice the man that clothes me" implying flesh is just clothing for the soul. also implying that I am not the flesh that clothes me, and part of the worlds deception is aimed at tricking me into that lie.

>>19102439
It doesn't matter. Pedophilia is a-okay with the bible

>>19102455
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/revelations_elitefamilyinsider.pdf

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>>19102186
>universal law
Please tell me about your universal law? Mine tells me respect and defend free will. Yours tells you to attack people for keeping you in an imaginary prison.

>sins
What are my sins and who are you to accuse me of them?

>none of them are the ones who gave every living thing its ability to breath, noine of those beings have the abilitiy to destroy/forgive your sins against universal law.

Through the eyes of monotheism, they are the arch angels in service of the Trinity. They are the children of God just as you and I.

>and none of those beings can resurrect themselves from death

They have done just that time and again. I am pretty sure anyone with a passing interest in Mesopotamian history has read their tales.

>nice larp.

Larp? Yes you are right. I am live action role playing as a religious guy that had a few drinks and decided to talk to a few Gnostic's on the internet.

You should ask the Lord to teach you about a thing called humility, it would serve you well...

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>>19101906
What is thought to be noble in the past, might be seen as ignoble in the future; and what is genuine fear now, might be based on a mistake of the past; and thusly no real fear at all.
>>19101951
Dude...you flat earthers are so dense. I swear....>one time, my neighbor was with some friends and filling the pool for the upcoming season
>the one friend who's a nigger, said he totally believes the earth is flat
>the others laugh in his face and become sullen eventually with the disdain that they've befriended a moron
> all while sunlight bounces across their pool over to my roof
You need to research Aberration, anon.

>>19102463
Um, you are already dead, pham. You're dead because you broke Divine Law and that means death.