Question for flat earthers

I've got a question.

Who are the great flat earth astronomers? The great flat earth scientists and mathematicians? What have they contributed to society? What great new technologies?

>>19080500
You do it to deny us understanding of where we exist....

>>19080508
Pythagoras

>>19080500
It would create chaos. Imagine everything you knew was a lie. The physics, the shit you learned in school, everything.

That would make people question everything even more, it'll be fucking pandora's box

>>19080500
To keep the people from reading teachings about leadership, the Greek came up with a spherical earth. Everybody who had read the bible knew that could not be true and stopped reading Greek philosophy. Mission accomplished. More and more Greek philosophy started to be part of politics and people just stuck with Greek science that is really wrong on so many levels. Yet, education evolved and they forgot to take out the false statements.
These days people are free to read whatever they want and started to ask questions. Luckily the bible is free in every language and science proved the Greek were wrong in so many things.

>>19080520
Nope, round earther.

>>19080562
Nice try shill, trying to disinfo greek ain't cool man

>>19080574
Negative

>>19080592
citation needed

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>>19080606

>>19080520
Wait... he did prove round Earth by way of perspective. Somebody had posted a WebM of Carl Sagan explaining it

>>19080500
They aren't lying, they are failing to understand. Always assume mistake, then ignorance before malice.

if the earth is flat. why would toilets flush rotate going down ? yet the opposite in other side of world.

>>19080749
>NASA is failing to understand the earth is flat

So every company that has a financial interest in satellite technology, are full of thousands of people who secretly know the truth, but have altered conventional science in order to make their technology work for millions of customers, including yourself? Assuming OP has a smart phone.

>>19080846
OP needs a smartphone, because OP is not smart at all

How does the flat Earth theory account for gravity? How about the coreolis effect? Or the fact it's possible to circumnavigate the Earth from below the south pole towards the North? Or satellites?

>>19080876
Lurk more.

>>19080705
There's nothing in there that claims he's a flat earther.

>>19080876
Gravity and coriolis effects don't exist. It's not possible to go to the south pole because of UN warships patrolling around it. Satellites are either holograms or just weather balloons.

>>19080500
What makes you think that there are some "powers" trying to keep us from finding out?

>>19080562
Your retardation is staggering

>>19080500
They want you to believe you're insignificant in a universe. A spec of dust on a rock among billions of rocks in space. That your life has no meaning. That we've already uncovered 98% of everything on earth and that there is nothing to explore and nothing to conquer.

If we live on an infinite plane with infinite places to discover then it would change everything.

>>19081883
Indeed, they have sedated an entire world by saying you are worth nothing. Get born, get educated by their programs, work for them, die.

>>19080846
If there are supposedly 20k sattelites in the sky, what is the need of these ground based towers and underwater fibre optic lines. These towers do not ping to an object all the way in the sky... They can barely ping your phone. Also find me a picture of an actual sattelite. None of that cgi stuff.

>>19082149
>none of that cgi stuff

Give me an example.

>>19081261
>1940's
"oh shit we found land as big as the USA in Antarctica, full of minerals and resources. We will commence a large expedition to explore this new land.

>couple years later
Antarctica is quarantined off by the United nations. They all agreed that no indepent exploration is allowed on Antarctica. (during a time of war where pretty much everyone distrusted each other all members of the UN agreed to this)

I wonder what they found.

>>19082185
>full of minerals and resources
>a time of war

>>19081883
If you had ever done any research on these scientists you are trying to dismiss, you'll fond that most astrologists and whatnot actually do believe in a higher power that had created everything because the universe is too chaotic to have come up with such intricate laws of nature that make life possible. They say that the universe is too finely tuned to not have been made by a God of some sort.

What's next? The earth is a triangle?

>>19082215
The fact that it is able to sustain life being so finely tuned is only a consequence of how our solar system is laid out. We still haven't discovered life beyond it so if there was a God wouldn't life appear in all solar systems?

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>>19082149
>why cell phone towers

Because the batteries in cell phones generally don't produce enough wattage to transmit to satellites.

>why fiber optics

A lot more traffic, better fidelity. millions of different signals at a time. Satellites, on the other hand, are good at broadcasting a few tv stations to millions of different homes.

>show me a satellite

Too lazy to go out and look for yourself?

>>19082215
>scientists
>astrologists

lol

>>19082215
>says if anyone did research wed know they believed in creationism
>calls astronomers astrologists

Yeah, you sure seem like you did your homework.

>>19082253
Tvs and radio existed fine decades before "sattlelites", the only limitation was hardware. BBC broadcast could be heard in new york. Kinda weird how radio signals travel in a line.

And the "iss" you see in the sky, considering how NASA has lied about pretty much everything else could just be a weather balloon for all I know. NASA magic.

Still no pic of the 20k sattelites in the air.

Tri-Force earth theory

>>19082329
Do you expect all 20000 in one picture?

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>>19082329
>weather balloon

>>19082351
Bet you believe we are spinning a 1000 mph right now or that water curves or that gravity (a theory) is real.

I'm not saying I know everything. But I know for certain that NASA are liars and that this globe earth model which is only about 500 years old is bs.

>>19082349

No, knock at least 2 zeros off. Not him but I'd love to see a picture of at least 200 in one photo.

>>19082329
>TVs were fine before satellites

I suspect you never watched TV before satellites

>only limitation was hardware

No, the limitation was the curvature of the earth. If you weren't within the line of site of the radio tower broadcasting the TV signal, you weren't going to get the TV signal. Fortunately people are in lines of site with satellites.

Back before satellite TV and cable, you might get three TV stations. And that's only if you lived closed to the broadcast stations. If you lived in rural areas you might not get any TV at all.

>weather balloon

250 miles up? Moving at 17,500 miles per hour? That's some balloon.

>NASA lied about pretty much everything

Could you provide examples? Any at all?

>Still no pic

I just showed you one.

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>>19082389
>spinnning at 1000 mph

Maybe if you lived on the equator.

>water curves

Well duh

>gravity

Step off the roof of a building if you don't believe in gravity

>NASA are liars

I showed you a picture of a satellite, and you lied and claimed it was a balloon.

So that's one lie from you, none from NASA so far.

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>>19080500
Why not?

>>19082406
>>19082421
Gravity doesn't exist, what you are referring to is density.

The drop of water may look curved, but it's on a pane of glass. It is level and flat on the glass shift your perspective.

If you still believe NASA after the fiasco that was the lunar missions (which "proved" the earth is a ball. You are beyond hope)

I can't confirm the state of tv's and radios during the early 30's and neither can you.

Since you are talking about curvature, how come we can see mountains 100kms away when they should be well below the horizon if the world is curved. Inb4 "mirage".

>>19080500
It's so stupid and unhappy people feel like they're important with their sage knowledge. Like an annoying hippie vegan

>>19082493
>Gravity doesn't exist, what you are referring to is density.

...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha can't breathe hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

If density is the only factor explain the fact that heavy and light objects fall at the same rate of speed?

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>>19080561
Fuck, I want me some green beans now.

>>19082493
>how come we can see mountains 100kms away when they should be well below the horizon if the world is curved
Are you being retarded on purpose? Earth's circumference is about 40 thousand kilometres

>>19082397
They are tiny in comparison to the earth and obviously have to have orbits that stay away from each other, lest they collide.

If Earth is flat, are we on the tails side or the heads side?

>>19080524
>chaos
Pfft, in your wet dreams.
1 percent of people would panic, depress, suicide.
1 percent would "I always told you so."
98 percent won't care.
Maybe it's even 0.1, 0.1 and 99.8 or worse.

>>19083072
Tail

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>>19080508

Ancient man

>>19083217
Confirmed. Wherever you start to look under the surface, you'll always find an asshole.

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>>19080500

Theres more to see and more to know.

Admiral Byrd said it himself, theres more land to discover that has been unexplored -- which was roughly 60 years ago. Who the fuck knows whats been going on since then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMooNFtFJk

Here's two interesting videos on the topic.

What about planes? You can get to Russia from the US over the Atlantic or the Pacific for example. And people on the planes as well as everyone organizing them witness the process

>>19083277
Also where does the flat earth start and end?

>>19083233
the ones that were smart enough to build pyramids, know about other planets in the solar system, yet fail to recognize a basic spherical shape, and telling them the earth is flat? did I miss something in school, I did pretty bad but I'm getting different info here

>>19080500
This has been discussed a lot of times.
Flat earthers think that if the earth is flat that means god created this planet and that we are special and they want to plant the idea of hellfire in your head.
So its the Jews who lie about this to manipulate you. (Although with this they themselves are pretty Much entitled to hell but whatever its flat earth so no sense or use of braincells needed.

Flat earthhers lost their ususal edge against cold hard logic lately.

>>19083254
Nicely done. But it's a safe bet for any amount of money that no flattard will watch this, EVER.

>>19083351
Some seem to have at least opened the videos before, check the dislikes. And truth be told, they can watch anything and discredit it as false. They could probably look at Earth from the ISS and call it fake.

>>19082397
are you fucking retarded?

>>19082693
take 2 objects with the same shape but different density (maybe a full and an empty bottle) and drop the out of your window. the denser object will hit the floor first

>>19083254
flattards BTFO. great vids

>>19083311
So now youre saying kek. God was a psyop from the beginning of man

>>19083239
Admiral tell truth, but NASA lies....

Get your act together sufkut

The whole point is that if the flat earth is real the God is real - thus it is in the interests of Satan to convince us we are but pointless and tiny in a meaningless universe.

>>19083443
That's a retarded point. You can believe in a higher power or not but why would the Earth not being flat have an effect on this higher power's existence?

>>19083443
Nope, but if earth is a sphere, biblical stories turn out to be false, lies and therefor God fake.

>>19083048
I used 100 km as a low number but even at 100 km away an object should be 784m below the horizon.

>>19083495
Based on literal readings of translations that are already heavy interpretations of the original, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_narrative

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
-(Genesis 1:1–1:2)

Although the opening phrase of Genesis 1:1 is commonly translated in English as above, the Hebrew is ambiguous, and can be translated at least three ways:

- as a statement that the cosmos had an absolute beginning ("In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.");
- as a statement describing the condition of the world when God began creating ("When in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was untamed and shapeless."); and
- essentially similar to the second version but taking all of Genesis 1:2 as background information ("When in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the earth being untamed and shapeless, God said, Let there be light!").

The second seems to be the meaning intended by the original Priestly author: the verb bara is used only of God (people do not engage in bara), and it concerns the assignment of roles, as in the creation of the first people as "male and female" (i.e., it allocates them sexes): in other words, the power of God is being shown not by the creation of matter but by the fixing of destinies.

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If earth was flat, how did they shoot the movie 'Gravity '?

>>19083585
Not to mention that a lot of details are simply lost:

The use of numbers in ancient texts was often numerological rather than factual – that is, the numbers were used because they held some symbolic value to the author. The number seven, denoting divine completion, permeates Genesis 1: verse 1:1 consists of seven words, verse 1:2 of fourteen, and 2:1–3 has 35 words (5x7); Elohim is mentioned 35 times, "heaven/firmament" and "earth" 21 times each, and the phrases "and it was so" and "God saw that it was good" occur 7 times each.

>>19082693
So you believe in a meme force strong enough that can keep mountains and buildings and water and creatures on a ball that is supposedly spinning yet weak enough to let birds and insects fly.

And I'm the crazy one, huh.

>>19083602
At least nobody believes that your IQ has more than two digits.

>>19083581
Then you wont see 784m mountains :'-)

>>19080757
KeK!

>yet another fathheadddd thread... Timy ty trolly

>>19080876
Lies!

>>19081234
Jerk. Brain-dead faglet.

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>>19083585
You think that's all? Read the damn book. So many verses that require a flat earth to fit the narrative, it is obvious the writers were not aware of
A. earth being a sphere.
B. in the future this would be an issue about the credibility of the story.
C. they shoot their own foot by claiming 'God made them do it'.

The complete book was very good and of high quality, for it's time. Now it just looks like crap. It's like how you used to enjoy Miami Vice, but now Don Johnson or his ferrari are just boring. That's where the bible dies. It does not stood the test of time. Civilization has outgrown it. Deal with it. You know it's true, but to scared to admit it. Move on!!

>>19082149
Retard! Take scope out and find a fastmover. Hard but eventually u will succeed.

>>19082164
No! It would rustle my jammnies

>>19082185
OP's mom

>>19082220
I could play along. Triangle earth time!!!!!

>>19083602
Mountains and buildings are attached to the surface. Water is magnetic.

Watch and try for yourself. Do some actual scientific research
https://www.google.nl/search?q=bend+water&client=ms-android-samsung&prmd=ivmn&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjaicKqjprUAhWJKlAKHTdYAM8Q_AUICigC&biw=360&bih=559

Animals fly because of wings. Can you fly?

>>19082329
Give me one picture of Jesus actually being born.

Or dying.

Or Noah fucking his daughter.

Non did real!

>>19082334
Time to triangle-earth! But the hard part is how we try-angle this.
>HUE! GET IT? TRY-ANGLE!!!>>19082493

>You are beyond hope.
WOW! Man! That stings.... Like... Wow... Shit.......

>>19083384
??????????? Aret thou trolling?????????
>consider AERODYNAMIC PROPERTIES

>>19082493
Pick one

https://www.google.nl/search?q=drop+in+vacuum&client=ms-android-samsung&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4_cKQk5rUAhUJIVAKHbENCHoQ_AUICygD&biw=360&bih=559

Density isn't gravity

>>19083646
>Don Johnson or his ferrari
Your gif is Knight Rider. Never bothered for Miami Vice, but I loved KITT.

>You know it's true, but to scared to admit it.
Errmm... did you actually understand what I wrote, or were you triggered by my wall of text citations from Wikipedia? You're running through open doors here.

>>19083057
You still haven't provided photo evidence.

>>19080516
also the potential that Earth is an infinite landmass, the same way we're told space is. it's possible that there are just unexplored lands as far as imagination can bring us

>>19080524
but it assumes that all those other sciences (and scientists) have been going along with faulty science. Why and how do geologists, psychologists, biologists, archaeologists, cosmologists, etc. all corroborate the science we think is real if the Flat Earth is perpetuated in each of them?

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>>19083823
>instead of your life being a drone in a cubicle you were meant to slay dragons, learn magic, and find the GOD particle in the world
>of infinite space

it all makes sense now

>>19083667
So now you are saying the whole world is held together by static electricity? Funny how that can't be recorded right?

How come a balloon filled with helium will rise? Gravity sure is choosey. (helium is less dense than nitrogen and oxygen etc)

>>19080500

point out 1 logical flaw

>>19083826

Not all, loog up eurveyors, engineers, numerous people who are know to hold the optinion that earth is flat in the PRACTICAL sense.

You couldn't land a plane, build a railway, build long bridges over water, with round earth.

It's all documented, you're just too lazy to look up in-your-face proofs.

And don't quote bullshit lie hawking laser hoax, other people did much more scientifically sound laser experiment, and the results were - total flatness.

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>>19083778
Me

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>>19083678
I don't care for religion. That isn't the reason I am interested in this topic. I just believe we have not been told the entire truth of what we live on.

Just imagine there is more to this world we live on, yet we can't confirm anything due to the UN treaty on Antartica. (Antarctica being the circle surrounding the land mass you know)

>>19083841
It is recorded. Watch spacewalk, any. Only you claim they are false. You claim all evidence of our globe is false.

Go finger fuck you dog, weirdo

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>>19083856
Why not land a plane?
Please enlight me

>>19083864
No need to get rude, my man.
These space walks have long been exposed as fraudulent as they are recorded in a large NASA pool (gotta make use of the Nautical in their name).

Their recent movies are getting better though (better hardware and budget).

https://youtu.be/38ynHKGzplQ

book a flight over Antarctica, like tens of thousands of people do every year. You will see that there isn't some fucking magical ice wall

>>19083870
Take a long runway of 4 kilometres. If you add the curvature of the earth that would mean that would be 1.5 meters of curvature needed. Yet a runway has to be level.

>>19083848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WjyTV98lg

>>19083862
If this really was earth, they would be mining in those regions. Seatraffic would be happening there, naval fleets would operate on those routes.
Non sign of that what so ever. And believe me, I did things for the navy you will never know. Money is greedy not to take that gold.
You civilizations don't no half of it, that's true, but the things you come up with are just retarded, there is no use for most things you fantasize about.

>>19083856
and could you link one of these 'scientifically sound' experiments?

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>>19083887
Antarctica is not some small continent like they have you believe. It is a circle around us and the truth is we do not know what lies beyond.

https://youtu.be/-mJXI0eAuwM

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Oh hey guys good morning, still arguing I see.

>>19083887
>what are flight paths for 500 Alex

>>19083879
You sir, are a waste of oxygen. Drink some kerosene, will ya?
Or set yourself on fire and blame it on the Atheïsts, that will teach them how wrong they are.

>>19083891
See
>>19083902

Couple years after that interview the UN got formed and all members unanimously agreed to not allow any indepent exploration. Fishy.

>>19083902
your source is an interview from the 40's?

>>19083862
Source on the picture needed.

>>19083889
Why does it has to be? It doesn't. Otherwise tunnels or bridges would not be possible, flat or globe.

>>19083915
Are you implying 40s is outdated information? What about that lost technology NASA somehow destroyed in the 60s? Are you trying to say the past is irrelevant? Wake up.

>>19083912
Get some real education. Your level is minor league.

fuck flat earthers annoy the shit out of me. HURR PROVE IT'S SPHERICAL - BUT YOU CAN'T USE ANY SCIENCE LOL. PHOTOS FROM SPACE - FAKE BRAH. JOURNALS FROM ANTARCTICA - FAKE BRAH. CHECK OUT THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO BRO... THIS IS WHAT THE MAN DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE. SCIENCE IS FOR SHILLS

>>19083916
http://truthrising.net/flat-earth-1000-year-old-buddhist-map/

>>19083925
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

>>19083925
We just want you to open your mind, lad.

>>19083942
anyone with a fucking highschool education and an internet connection would be able to disprove pretty much all of this. Why can flat earthers NEVER provide an unbiased, scientific source? It's always some flat earth blog or youtube channel authored by some mouth breathing retard.

>>19083970
you can do most of these yourself.

>anyone with a fucking highschool education and an internet connection would be able to disprove pretty much all of this.

We have all been told since we started our education that the earth is a ball and we are worth nothing, there is nothing left to do so go study and work and die. It is the ultimate form of conditioning.

I don't blame you for getting angry, it is a big shock. It is as if I told you 1+1 = 3

>>19083985
buy a fucking telecscope and look for a satelite.

>>19083902
>It is a circle around us
Have you actually done some basic math and calculated the circumference of this circle? Or don't you believe in Pi, too?

How much ships would they need to guard this? And the guard has to be complete over the whole circle all the times. One single flattard going through and returning with photos of what is beyond (edge into nothing or infinitely more landmasses) is enough to bring back the truth.

>>19083985
You are worth nothing to society, but your friends and family are not the society. Society is the workforce making the economy work. So what?
Get a good education, make money and enjoy spending it wisely. Pick up friends along the way and you will find they miss you when you do not contact them. Your family gets worried when don't respond to them. School is only there to teach you how to be of economic value. It is not the most important thing in the world. A place to feel safe is. At home you are safe, among loved ones.
And that is life. Nothing more. If that is not enough, the shape of earth isn't gonna fix that for you. The presence or absence of a god is not gonna fix that.
Enjoy nature and human interaction or just die. The galaxy does not care. The universe does not care. But if you don't care, why even cry about it?

>>19083970
Can you disprove it? Or do you just assume that smarter people can?

>>19080524
Except flat earth doesn't even stand up to simple physics, relative motion. Basic math. Kek.

>>19084068
4plebs. I think we disproved it Monday. So three times this week. Ffs.

>>19083939
>http://truthrising.net/flat-earth-1000-year-old-buddhist-map/

not a very good source, desu

>>19084078
>flat Earth doesn't work because of these invented concepts I have no way of knowing aren't lies

>>19084080
Who's we? Did you disprove it, or did you just take someone else's word it was disproven?

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>>19084091
oh my fucking god, you people never stop

How about you take the arguements used to disprove your theory and fucking do some research

>>19084085
>I think the earth is flat because I'm incredibly dumb and I saw a blog saying that it is

>>19083997
Low Earth Orbit sattelites vary between the Thermosphere and the Exosphere. (supposedly)

>The thermosphere is typically about 200° C (360° F) hotter in the daytime than at night, and roughly 500° C (900° F) hotter when the Sun is very active than at other times. Temperatures in the upper thermosphere can range from about 500° C (932° F) to 2,000° C (3,632° F) or higher.

>The temperature in the exosphere varies greatly and can range from 0 to over 1700 degrees Celsius. It is colder at night and much hotter during the day. The air in the exosphere is very thin, and is made up mostly of helium, and hydrogen. Traces of other gases such as atomic oxygen and carbon dioxide can also be found.

Aluminium melting point = 660.3 °C
Kevlar melting point = above 500 °C
Gold melting point = 1,064 °C

^ These are what sattelites are usually made of.

http://www.lenntech.com/periodic-chart-elements/melting-point.htm

Some more material for ya. To be honest I can't say for certain what sattelites are made of. I used this website http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=12034 as a reference.

Sattelite's were a fictional object from the book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sentinel_(short_story). Yet a few years later they became real? Pretty convenient. The book was written by Arthur C. Clarke, a known freemason, this helped further the "globe" model which they have been pushing for the last 500 years.

>>19084099
That's a no then. An anonymous poster said "this is debunked, trust me" and that was enough for you.

>>19084104
Who says I think the Earth is flat? I'm just not convinced it's round.

>>19084084
Sorry, man. That is where I got it from. I don't believe it for a fact but you can't deny there must be a reason why they wont let us beyond Antarctica and its not global warming.

>>19084091
The burden of proof is with the flattards, but since the page claims to give 200 proofs, let's just look at the first:

1) The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

If "their pictures are fake CGI" is a valid proof, then here is the disproof, in the very same quality: All pics showing a perfectly flat horizon are fake CGI.

There, you have it.

>>19084003
I'm not saying stop getting educated and stop working and living etc. I'm just saying we are not being told the entire truth.

>>19084134
Why is burden of proof not on the people who put forward the the Earth is round?

>>19084110
P R O V E I T ' S F L A T

>>19084141


Because they've provided their evidence, dumb-dumb. Where's yours?

>>19084148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCbdneAe2gk&

>>19084141
Because Google is your friend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.

Note "perceived status quo" here.

>>19084122
But people are allowed on Antarctica. My neighbor has been. 'Beyond' Antartica doesn't exist, maybe? Remember last year when that guy tried to reach the south pole on skis unsupported? Also, it's by literally all accounts an inhospitable wasteland.

>>19084185
I said beyond Antarctica, you can pay for an expensive tour which is obviously guided. but you cannot grab a compass and go south because they will not let you.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/102307/norwegian-arrested-after-antarctic-voyage

>>19084202
Did you actually read the article?

>>19084202
Because of the laws and because you would likely die.

>>19084150
They claim to have provided evidence.

>>19084232
Anyone can wander into the Australian outback. Tourists die every year.

>>19084202
W...wait a sec.

arrested AFTER Antarctic voyage

aren't the UN guard ships supposed to catch nosy exporers BEFORE they reach Antarctica?

the saddest thing here is the flat earth debate has devolved into retards fumbling around for a match in complete darkness...when it's raining.

everyone who was willing to provide information on this topic already has - and all that's left are bible* thumpers.

>**the bible of SCIENCE

What's more - any unsuspecting observer that stumbles on this subject will only ever see these IQ<50 threads that have nothing...NO content in them.

The controlling powers of this world DEPEND on this fucking peanut-sized brain capacitance in the general public to continue arguing - all while forgetting the basic premise.

Consciousness has been put in a box.

>>19084213
>>19084240
Here is some more insight on the full story. You can do some independent research after.

>>19084202


you can't use a compass south of the antarctic circle due to magnetic interference. In fact, instrumentation limitations lay serious doubt even TODAY on what the exact geographical mapping is.."down there"

There is a "local" gps on the "south pole" - but access is limited to those given access - I.E. not in public view of scrutiny.

>>19084252
>>19084213
>>19084240
forgot the link ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkq5CjLQFLk

>>19084239
You need a permit to climb Mount Everest as well. Does that mean there's some kind of conspiracy to hide something from us?

>>19084267
>he doesn't know about the yeti colony

>>19084122
What about your own safety. No rescue team is gonna look for you. Changes are you freeze, dying. You know the thing about military secrets? They don't want other nations to know. At Antarctica however nations work together and frankly don't give shit about what some flattard may found out. As an individual you are just to small to make a difference there. What counts is the research about earth itself. If you are too stupid to understand that... your bad luck. If you wanna know what is really happening there, visit an university and ask them who to contact, that are willing to help you. Have you ever tried or are you too busy youtube?

>>19080500
To convince the human race we are tiny insignificant specs of dust in a universe and nothing we do matters. Easier to control us like cattle that way.

>>19083166
You're stupid if you think people wouldn't care that a basic truth they have been told since birth has been a lie.

>>19084137
So get an education, followed lectures, read the right literature, talk to people who actually living life. Don't blame others you are not doing what is need to be done to figure out humanity.

Protip: conspiracy site are not the way to find out.

>>19084141
Because the rest of us enjoy satellites and are fine with a globe. We are a majority, so , fit in or fuck off

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I say the people of the world ought to join together and claim marie byrd land as a sovereign state to all those who choose dual citizenship and/or renounce the citizenship of the country they come from.

I'd call it ....

>kekkland

You don't need "permission" to claim unclaimed land.

You think the governments of the countries you live in are going to "kill" the "usurpers"? lol

>>19084342
Nope, they won that battle when you begin to doubt about life after death. Or God. If you use the word Jesus without cursing, they also won that battle.

>>19083495
Or it be just another story written be stupid peple

>>19084372
Sounds like my kind of place.

>>19084381
Nah, they weren't stupid. Jesus even has his own memes. Those who wrote it, nailed it big time. It's like the best selling candy of all time. Not healthy, but people love it

>>19083646
Bravo good answer

>>19084342
Why would we be any more significant if the earth was flat?

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>>19084162
I like how no one is quoting this link.
They keep asking for proof when its right there.

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>>19084391

>>19084267
Yes.

>>19083985
So let me get this straight, you'd rather be a meaningless spec on an infinite flat plane than a meaningless spec in an infinite universe filled with countless inhabitable planets? There's no difference. If Earth is flat and infinite no one will ever see all of it, so there's no point to it even existing. You're being fucking stupid.

>>19083985
If you can not give meaning to your own life, smoke a Quran, eat a Bible and rape a Buddha, because you is what wrong with humanity. Too damn boring.

>>19084162
>zooming in on a close boat

Is this supposed to prove something? Because it's not even close to being over the horizon.

Zooming in doesn't change perspective, it just narrows the field of view and changes the scale.

>lake pontchartrain causeway is missing curvature

Nope. It's right there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1BEYUZ7Ypw

>French media says Corsica from Nice is a mirage

Yes. Because sometimes you can see it and sometimes you can't. If the earth were flat, you'd see all the time. Not to mention Mt. Everest.


Boy, flat earthers sure are bad at arguing for their own cause.

174 replies and still no (legit) answer to OP's question

>>19084107
>thermosphere and exosphere

You know these places are very cold, right? Yes, the temperature of the gases is very high, but they're also very thin.

So you're never going to melt a satellite due to the thermosphere or exosphere.

Don't be stupid, friend.

>>19084623
Flat earth retards never give an answer to this question.

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>>19084617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wExbki15td8

Bet you think this walkway is curving too.

>>19084676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0

>>19084676
It certainly could be. It's so short it's impossible to measure.

Note how in this picture, all the lines appear to be straight.

But the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway clearly curves down. It doesn't go in a straight line. So perspective can't explain that.

If you want to see curvature you've got to look at something that's several miles long.

>rob skiba
>shows a video of a skyscraper with the lower half clearly below the horizon.

LOL. These retards debunk themselves.

>>19084687
Excuse you?!

Rob Skiba knows what he talks about. He has a mission and did his research. If you can't handle that, you are to scared that there is a God afterall

>>19084741
>Rob Skiba
>doing research

good one.

>>19084358
>science is mob rule now
wew

>>19084741
>Rob Skiba
I don't even know who the fuck Rob Skiba is. Anything with flat earth and religion? Ok, nothing missed.

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>>19084826
He's like the highest authority on Flat Earth Syndrome. I mean Flat Earth Realization.
He even has his own seminars. How can he have seminars if he did no research?

>>19084850
>How can he have seminars if he did no research?
That's easy. Stay in front of retarded people and talk a lot of retarded bullshit you don't know anything about, because you're retarded. With the right charisma, they will buy everything from you.

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>>19084687
I'm the guy you were quoting before. Have you watched all of the video before commenting? I don't think so.

>>19084850
>how can he have seminars if he doesn't do his research

By just pulling shit out his ass. He's your average everyday con artist.

>>19084879

No, I only watched a small portion before I saw enough bullshit to debunk.

Was there a specific claim you'd like me to watch and then debunk?

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>>19084687
The video clearly debunks the "buildings below horizon" meme.

Lets say for the sake of argument we do live on a ball, wouldn't the skyline be tilting AWAY from our perspective? Yet all these flat earth de-bunkers keep shooting themselves in the foot.

>>19084921
It's not tilting enough for that to be noticeable. Earth is not that small.

>>19084921
>The video clearly debunks the "buildings below horizon" meme.

It does not.

>wouldn't the skyline be tilting AWAY from our perspective?

They do. One degree for every 70 miles distance.

>>19080876
Magic, basically. Best they can generally come up with is "muh density!", though that fails to explain how objects with different densities fall at the same rate.

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>>19084902
>No, I only watched a small portion before I saw enough bullshit to debunk.

OK, have fun living your life, my man.

>>19081234
Surely, you can provide evidence as to where the UN churned out the thousands of ships needed to patrol that large of an area constantly. I'm a patient man, so I'll wait.

>>19084941
>>19084941
Again, I can debunk any claim this video makes if you want me too. I'm not going to sit through 13 minutes of some fag repeating lies over and over.

>>19084676
this really needs a couple of things:

height of tallest visible building

expected curve *change of distance* from 46 miles

the actual difference

>>19084950
>>19084953
See
>>19084162

>>19084953
The one they also always forget is the height of the observer.

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>>19084950
>I'll Debunk anything, but I'm not gonna watch!!!

>>19082389
>I don't actually understand what a theory is
>I probably think it's just a random guess that scientists have just decided is right and left it at that

There are honestly people who think earth is flat?
Be honest.

>>19084958
We've already addressed this one. Zooming in doesn't restore things that are below the horizon. It only makes the top of the thing above the horizon look larger.

He zooms in on a boat, but the boat is nowhere close to being behind the horizon. He hasn't restored anything.

He posts some shit about Trinity Lighthouse and claims it's 80 feet tall, which is fine, but he's leaving out the part where the base that it's built on is 50 feet above sea level, explaining the difference.

He claims curvature is missing from the Pontchartrain Causeway, but the curvature there and the video I posted shows it.

He claims mirages don't exist, but we know for a fact they do.


The rest of the video is just basically doing the same sort of vague shit.

>>19084964

Gimme a claim and a time stamp, I'll watch for that claim.

>>19082389
>which is only about 500 years old
Nigga, people as early as 200 BCE calculated the tilt and curvature of the Earth. That's over 2,000 years ago.

>>19084958
while this video makes an excellent point - it is one photo.

the guy doing the chicago thing really needs the height of observer and expected % of curvature expected.

The chicago thing is popular and readily observable.

20k ft expected curvature LMFAO

>>19085002
...and the mountains?

>>19085019
The famous illusion of Chicago across the lake is only readily observable a couple weeks in spring.

>>19085027
Same deal. Superior mirages in some cases, just bad math in others. You'll notice that the tops are visible, but the bases are not, because, again, curvature.

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>>19085002
>He posts some shit about Trinity Lighthouse and claims it's 80 feet tall, which is fine, but he's leaving out the part where the base that it's built on is 50 feet above sea level, explaining the difference.

>base that it's built on is 50 feet above sea level

Anything you can't explain is a mirage, very convenient.

>>19085032
ok ok full disclosure:

I watched both these vids drunk;

However, not maths in the world can convince me of a superior mirage that is 20k feet higher than the actual object.

You want to defend this position?

>why?

>>19085019
It requires VERY specific weather conditions for that to happen. If the Earth were flat, you would be able to see it year-round.

>>19085045
also ..if the earth were flat...I think I'd need clear weather conditions to see "farther" as well...no?

lol - the problem with this whole meme is a lot of the math and observables work on both models

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>>19085032
>Mirage

That's not how mirages work, my man.

Also you should NOT even see the tip of the mountain since its 10k feet below the horizon, supposedly.

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>>19085034
You know, the nice thing about mirages is that they're easy to confirm.

You wait a little while and they go away. If the earth were flat that wouldn't happen.

>>19085059
You're kind of stupid, aren't you? Like "kids on the short bus made fun of you" stupid.

>>19085069
lol - you wait a little while and it rains


...you wait a little while and humidity fluctuates

...you wait a little while and temperature fluctuates

..you wait a little while and the moon comes out


...you wait a little while and....

>>19085034
>Anything you can't explain is a mirage, very convenient.

You can see a mirage every day if you live in a country temps over 70F
>Go outside
>Go next to a long road
>Oh look someone either dropped their mirror on the road or there's a giant puddle of water. Can't be anything else cus I can see it.. huh

You would prob shit your pants and dial 112 if this "effect" took place on a hill. It does look freaky if there are trees or mountains behind it.

I am not sure if anyone explained gravity like this already in this forum, but here it is anyways. Imagine that space is a cloth held tight at all sides. If you put a ball on the cloth then a depression will form. Now putting another ball of less weight on the cloth will cause it to roll to the heavier ball. This explains how the earth rotates around the sun and the basics of gravity.

>>19085075
ok - let's start insulting each others intelligence.

that will win the argument.

>>19085043
>20k feet is too much

Alright, so what's the maximum amount a mirage can project? Show your math. Because an argument from incredulity isn't an argument.

>>19085066
Look up the difference between inferior and superior mirages. You're posting an illustration of inferior mirages, the ones in the Chicago case and others are superior mirages.

Furthermore, this all just debunks further that Rob Skiba shit. If the earth were flat and there were a superior mirage, you'd have to get closer to a city in order to see it rather than the other way around.

And on top of that, increasing in elevation would make it more difficult to see the city, whereas in reality you can see further.

>>19085080
..it also explains how lighter balls roll toward heavier balls when they're both on a sheet of cloth...

>muh balls are the biggest, btw

>>19085069
Why are you a different light house?

http://www.theneedles.co.uk/pages/trinity-lighthouse

>>19085088
bruh - you proposed it was a mirage.

the burden of proof is on you to show the maximum amount a mirage can project.

>>19085076
The fact that it changes at all means it's a mirage, anon.

This comes to a certain issue with the scientific method called "reproducibility." Maybe you've heard of it.

According to flat earthers, if you're sitting across the lake from Chicago in Indiana you should see Chicago. This, they claim, is proof of a flat earth.

What they can't explain, however, is when you go to that beach and you can't see Chicago.

>>19085096
You admitted that mirages exist but you made the claim, from incredulity, that 20k ft. is too much.

Well? What's the limit then? How much is more believable to you? How far away does something have to be in order for it to not be a mirage?

How do you explain disappearing Chicago?

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>>19085077
>>19085088
>>19085100
Don't mirages reflect shit down wards?

you can't really get a mirage from an object "below" the horizon.

>>19085100
I think you're looking for the phrase "repeatable observation"

This is something that...crazy as it may sound - is what the catholic church supported ...and burned people at the stake due to their lack of repetition of observation...

Our round earth is explained with mathematical theory, NOT observable. Both models share a lot of mathematical theory.

Flat earth is the winner as far as observables for the common everyday layman...

Here's more disclosure - I support neither model - but find it laughable the amount of shit wading science thumpers are willing to travel to validate their own self worth.

Is it NOT true that the majority of people, even the majority on this very board....have no science education beyond maybe...9th grade geology? Is there not a cult of personality surrounding our current academia? Are their papers not funded by capitalism?

Please - the very existence of this meme supports this; therefore, it will continue to exist.

>>19085059
Oh, right, I forgot about the Illuminati weather machines that they sometimes turn off for some reason. My bad.

>>19085111
Inferior mirages refract upwards. Superior mirages refract downwards.

Because superior mirages reflect things downwards, yes, you can see over the curve of the horizon. In the Chicago example, Chicago is below the horizon when viewed from the beach on the other side of the lake. So the light coming from Chicago horizontally travels out over the lake and, if it were going in a straight line, continue out into space, missing the guy on the beach.

But because of the mirage, this light is bent downwards, following the curvature of the earth, and the guy on the beach would see it.

If the earth were flat, on the other hand, a superior mirage would bend the light into the ground, making Chicago invsibile from where you'd normally be able to see it.

>>19085109
You admitted that mirages exist but you made the claim, from incredulity, that 20k ft. is too much.
>I did? Superior or Inferior? What is the nature of the two?
Well? What's the limit then? How much is more believable to you? How far away does something have to be in order for it to not be a mirage?
>You tell me, bud
How do you explain disappearing Chicago?
>Atmospheric conditions? The same used to explain away any objection on a round earth model?

>>19085111
There are different types of mirages, fucktard. Two seconds on Google will show you that.

>>19085131
>Catholic church burned people at the stake for reproducibility

No, you're thinking of heresy. Those are two different words you apparently don't understand. You're really grasping at straws here.

>Round earth is explained mathematically, not observably

No, round earth is very much explained by observations. Direct measurements.

>common every day laymen

You insult common every day laymen with the instance that they're fundamentally retarded.

Anybody can go out and make the observations that prove the earth is round. Some people are too lazy and dishonest to do that. Too bad for them.

>I support neither model

You're lying.

>is it NOT true that many people here are scientifically illiterate

No, that's clearly true. Nothing to do with capitalism. Everybody here was afforded a free public education, and instead of using it, they wasted the tax payers dollars.

Was it a mirage that the injuns observed as the conquistadors sailed toward their coastline?

...hrmmm

>>19085140
>tell me what the limit is

I never claimed there was a limit. As far as I know there is no limit. The furthest mirage I'm aware of is Novaya Zemlya, and it accounts for a curvature of well over 40k feet.

>superior mirages are the reason Chicago disappears from that beach on flat earth.

Nope. If this were true, then increasing in altitude from the beach wouldn't bring it back into view. But it does. Curvature accounts for this.

>>19085148
It would depend on how far away it was. Either way they saw the sails before the hulls.

>>19085147
Why is it that my direct observations on a foucault pendulum near the equator were near 24 hours cycles vs the expected(31 hours or something like that)? Why have I repeated this observation in three seperate southern states...and WHY did my physics professor give me a passing score...fuck.

>It's like they want you to absorb what they tell you without question.

Here's something you don't need to observe to understand:

Why do the sciences tell you the pendulum changes oscillation direction when passing the equator for the observable?

Magic or Perspective is the answer, and I don't have the perspective of viewing the earth from the moon or someplace outside of the atmosphere...

If someone could give me some live feeds of the same model foucault pendulum 1 degree north of the equator and 1 degree south - that'd be pretty convincing.

>>19085193
Terrible physics yes - I shit you not, the words from my physics professor were: "You could set your watch to this pendulum".

Yeah - because the electromagnets underneath were setting the frequency of oscillation.

I'd posit to say any modern pendulum does just this - and is a big middle finger to what foucault was attempting to prove.

Again - this sort of reasoning works both ways too - the engine running the pendulum can run in support of the proposed theory of round earth OR 24hours for the aesthetic the architect of the building was going for.

The pendulum is the best evidence we have for a round earth save NASA (potentially photoshopped) images, and they are apparently all assisted mechanically in some way...

The few I have seen have all had 24 hour motifs that serve as a clock for the building...

>>19085193
Sounds like a big, fat argument from incredulity to me.

>>19085234
ask yourself who you are and what you know

you're on /x/ for chrissake

what, it's not possible your entire education is some sort of ...looking-glass into the truth?

You can't come up with an excuse as to why your formative years might be based on a lie, but you are more than willing to shout down any other thoughts that might disagree with yours.

My position remains the same - I accept neither model - but hold contempt for those with "incredulity"

>>19085221
>pendulum proves sphere earth
>must be mechanically manipulated
>never ever will I set up my own unmodified pendulum to verify
>because HERESY
Beyond retarded.

>>19085258
let's see your "own unmodified pendulum"

I suppose you're agreeing with me...in so much as you should...verify the things being told to you....

also, what's heresy go to do with it?

>>19085221
Foucault's pendulum works with and without magnets keeping them moving, anon.

Also, and maybe you didn't take that much physics, but magnets don't affect the frequency of oscillation. That's only the pendulum's length and the acceleration due to gravity.

>>19085299
lol at ignoring the exponential rate of decay.

bruv, this experiment doesn't satisfy an observable without mechanical assistance.

Please, prove me wrong.

>>19085258
you cannot use a faucoult pendulum as an example, it needs to be set in motion for it to work. it will always have a bias, sometimes it goes clockwise sometimes anti clockwise.

if the earth indeed rotates, shouldnt ALL pendulums move on their own? oh wait "gravity" the ultimate back pedal.

>>19085193
>Why do the sciences tell you the pendulum changes oscillation direction when passing the equator for the observable?

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

You don't need to view the earth from outside the atmosphere in order to observe that they are round.

If you're looking for videos of pendulums precessing with the rotation of the earth, there are many on youtube.

>>19083856
What-is-calculus.jpg

>>19085308
If you're referring to air resistance, yes, that's a thing. It's not exponential decay.

A pendulum has the same frequency of oscillation regardless of how fast or how far it swings. The less far it swings the less path it has to travel, thus the same frequency.

The period is 2pi times the square of the length over g.

It is true that air resistance is a thing, and modern museums use magnets in order to counter act air resistance, otherwise they'd have to set the pendulum back up every day.

But this has nothing to do with Foucault's experiment. A well built Foucault's Pendulum will last for several hours. I believe the original swung for eight hours, so let's go with that. In those 8 hours, the pendulum precessed along with the motion of the earth the entire time. 1/4 of how far it would have precessed in a 24 hour period. There's nothing in the theory that says a pendulum has to precess for 24 hours, or one whole cycle depending on the latitude.

>>19085310

>it will always have bias

No it won't. The classic method is to lift the weight by a string, and then use a candle to burn the string. It removes bias.

>Sometimes clockwise sometimes anticlockwise
If you've set it up properly, the only thing that influences direction of precession is whether you're in the northern or southern hemisphere.

>shouldn't all pendulums move on their own?

No, most pendulums swing on a fixed axis. No idea what you're getting at with gravity.

>>19083856
Surveyors and engineers by and large know the earth is round.

You might find a few incompetent out-of-work engineers on youtube, but they're just cooks.

>other people did much more scientifically sound laser experiment

Nope. If you're talking about Jeranism he didn't even level his laser. Sound my ass.

>>19085310
>burning a string eliminates bias.
sure thing, bud.

Put a stationary pendulum on a table and move that table. What happens?

>>19085413
meant for
>>19085374

>>19085374
...you wanna address the allais effect?

>>19082460
I'm afraid you can't do that pal - burden of proof. Honestly, that's the most annoying thing about flat earth "theorists": they think that all they have to do to prove the world is flat is to "prove" the world isn't round. I mean, even if they did somehow disprove literal millennia of experiments (of which almost all agree), they have no reason to believe that the world is flat rather than, say, a fucking doughnut or something.

>>19085413
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZUovxmguY

>>19083985
It's exactly like being told 1+1=3, mainly because it ISN'T FUCKING TRUE.

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>>19085429
No need to beat a dead horse ^^

>>19085429
Pseudoscience.

Can't be unambiguously reproduced. Probably like the original cold fusion claims, honest but sloppy experimentation.

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>>19085476
lol

http://picard.ytmnd.com/

We believe, with all due deference to the pendulum, and its proprietor, that it proves nothing but the craftiness of the inventor; and we can only describe the show and showman as deceptions. A thing so childish as this ‘pendulum proof’ that it can only be described as one of the most simple and ridiculous attempts to gull the public that has ever been conceived.”

>>19085382
I can't help but call him Jism thanks to CoolHardLogic. The guy's got the intelligence and critical thinking of a puddle of cum, so it fits.

>>19084936
Have you taken a basic physics course, or even read a book? Objects with different density fall at the same velocity(ignoring the air resistance), that's just basic gravity theory.

>>19085382
Not to nitpick, but you meant kooks,
Cooks go to >>/ck/

>>19085545
Whoops, yes, typo. I think I was going to write crackpots first and then switched without fixing. Thanks.

>>19080500
Because of energy and taxes.

The modern calender is based upon the earth going all the way around the sun (which is not possible ). Your are taught at school this is 1 year.
Of course we know this is not true. It is impossible for earth to around the sun. Or Mars. Or the moon.
This dates back to the days of the sun worship.
The Egyptians who worshipped the sun also collected taxes. They invented economy.
The year as we call it is much shorter then the actual original time frame.
That's why there is so much confusion about the Genesis story.
In reality a 'day' is much longer, but leaving gouvernments with less taxes each year. And they will not give that up.

>>19085536
They're all equally retarded, but that fag has a smugness that really makes him stand out.

>>19085557
>of course this is not possible

Why not?

How come the stars are different, and correspond to the earth being on the opposite side of the sun?

>>19084352
Just asked my mother and she said "whatever"

>>19085574
they do? forgive me, but I figured the different locations of stars related to the difference between they and the earth.

What has the sun got to do with it?

sure, the sun changes locale, but what's that got to do with the other stars?

round or flat earth model...the sun is in an entirely different system compared to the other "stars"...

>>19085574
Are you talking about mirages?
Or reflection?

The longer you look the more you see, or did you just not looked long enough the first time. Especially when looking at dark areas the eye will play tricks on you.

But why not go all the way around the moon. The moon is not that hot, so global warming would not be so hot, right? You see, you are thinking NASA lingo now. The sun is to hot, for one. And then earth would have to turn for us to keep daytime. And we would glide off. Never happened you see. So, the is your proof.

>>19084400
Because we would be the centre of the universe, therefore the most important thing in it, and we would realise our true power.

>>19085605
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>19085648
The reason to cover up the true shape.

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>>19083985
>implies that the system wants you to just work and give money to the jews that control the world
>tries to break the system by shitposting about a retarded theory on a anonymous internet board
Never cease to amuse me.

>>19085663
Because the moon is hot and global warming?
This makes less sense than the "NASA wants to destroy your faith in God" theory

>>19085684
NASA has been around for just a few years. They didn't created the blue marble idea. They just keep it alive.
And God has nothing to do with it. God never said the earth was flat, or a sphere for that matter. People spoke for God. Just like Socrates. We don't know Socrates. We only know how Plato wanted us to know his spiritual father. We know stories about God. Just like stories about Jesus. We know what his friends wanted us to know. And non of them had a freaking microphone. They wrote down memories. They are biased ask fuck. Logically.
So no, NASA does not care about you and your idea about God. Why should they ever. That even sounds retarded comming to think about it.

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>>19085557
>taxes

>>19084000
Agreed with your trips... thats enouh butt you know theres always someone hiddddding something. blame the Loominaty

>>19085722
The whole flat earth argument is retarded. I still don't know what your point is. Nasa has been around for longer than the idea of global warming so I don't get where you're going with that.

>>19085599
Well you have to be away from the sun in order to see stars, anon. So at night in July you're facing different stars then you do in January.

Did you not do this? Do you not go out at night and look at the stars?

It's true this observation doesn't make sense on the flat earth model.

But it makes perfect sense on the round earth model

>>19085605
I'm talking about neither mirages nor reflections.

Direct line of sight.

You've lost me on the last part. What?

>>19085752
Talking about going all the way around the sun. Why not around the moon, since both are equally impossible. The sun is to hot, but fits a global warming lie, and moon should be more convenient, but shuts the door for other options, like again global warming. But you missing the point here.
It's all about the length of a year. For taxes. Always about the money

>>19085781
>you're missing the point here

That's because you're only talking gibberish. You haven't got a point.

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>>19085781
That's fucking stupid.
We've mapped the far side of the moon, we've sent probes to the sun. If it's about taxes and it's all made up, why not reduce the year to 6 months?
This is the dumbest reasoning for a flat earth I've seen so far. And that is impressive

>>19085792
You just don't get it. Not your fault. They spend years and ...tax money. .. to plant these ideas in your brain.
By making us believe the solar system is a system, they can make time on earth go relatively fast. So the yearly taxes get collected very regularly.
Real time does not go that fast. It goes way slower, which means less frequent tax collection .
With a clock of 12 hours, a 6 month year would raise questions to much. For now most people don't care, as long as they can have Xmas every year.

>>19085828
Jesus christ. You believe nasa controls the length of the year?
Get your meds checked

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>>19085928
Hes clearly a shill and on your side.

>>19083985
>there is nothing left to do so go study and work and die
I dont get this. Not saying that every nihilist will end up killing himself and caring about nothing, but it still isnt such a great motivator to feel unimportant. what?

>>19084556
>rape a Buddha
l-like a statue?

>>19085000
No its all just fun larping

>>19084874
thats how flat earthers feel about people who subscribe to the heliocentric model.

>>19084950
ok, how did copernicus, and pythagoras establish movement of the earth, and why did arostile, and plato think the earth was stationary, and the center of the universe.

why were the pyramids built on a geocentric model of the universe?

>>19086296
I find it liberating

>>19085593
People, not women.

>>19080500
There hasn't been a earth flat believer in hundreds of years everyone who claims they are mainly want attention

>>19086710
yeah exactly! but I think this leads to a "just enjoy the ride" kind of lifestyle as opposed to a more workaholic leanded angle

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>>19080500
its all about that mulon shesuan sauce bboy

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>>19086782
>firmament

what did he mean by this?

>>19087077
Sevens for Tesla

>>19087179
STUDY EXPLORER COL. RICHARD E. BYRD & why the government shut his research down!

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is this easy to debunk

>>19087293
Well first off the math is wrong since the bridge curves around, it's not straight. I mean shit, it's right there in the picture.

But yes, it drops thousands of feet to meet the curvature of the earth.

>>19086653
>Pythagoras

Pythagoras was just guessing. He based it on all sorts of screwy mythological shit. He never proved anything.

>Copernicus

Copernicus took careful observations of all the planets in greater detail than had been done in the past. His heliocentric model explained the motions of the planets in a far more elegant and simple method than the geocentric model does. It's a case where two you've got two competing models, one is ridiculously complicated and absurd, the other incredibly simple. It's not hard to see which one is a better model.

The geocentric model had the planets and moon and sun doing all sorts of crazy shit, doing loop-de-loops, stopping in their paths, going backwards, and then stopping and going forward again, with no apparent explanation, etc.

In the Copernican model, planets are simply orbiting around the sun. It explains retrograde motion for example. It's just a matter of perspective, planets don't actually stop and go backwards. It was also able to predict the apparent motions of the sun and planets and moon more accurately than using the geocentric model.

>Why were the pyramids built on the geocentric model

Well I'm not aware of any real evidence that the Pyramids have any astronomical significance whatsoever. But the ancient Egyptians were even shittier astronomers than the Greeks, so there you go. They had primitive ideas about geocentrism.

You're not confusing geocentrism with "flat earth" are you? Two different things.

>>19080524
thats not an answer. so whats the point of keeping that all from happening?
>woah these people are gonna have new physics and shit, cant have that because....i dont know

so there are so many flat earth retards, thats not enough for pandoras box to be opened? See? nothing happened from you dumbasses smoking too much weed and watching edgy youtube videos about the earth being flat.

>>19087077
Faked quote you retard.

The best proof that the earth is flat is the amount of shills trying to convince us that it isn't.

>>19087427
>claim 1 + 1 = 3
>people say that's wrong
>that must mean it's right!

>>19087436
Right on time shlomo

>>19087452
>antisemitism

Yeah nobody saw that coming.

>>19086634
Yes. I mean, you think earth is flat and Antarctica is a wall. Changes are, you think Jesus raped Judas too. So why not fuck a statue?
And if people see it and call you crazy, you just ask them to prove that what you are doing isn't art, right. B'karov etzlecha and Sieh Gail!

>>19087480
Kek, it must be all you see!

>>19085928
Numbers are man made. Spherical earth is a way to count fewer days in a year.

>>19083239
maybe other planets are also some kind of "land"

>>19087535
No, he meant Antarctica.

60 years ago, despite a few crossings, Antarctica was almost completely unexplored.

>>19086025
This. Fight the flattards by supporting their believes - and carefully(!) exaggerate them to ridiculousness. They control the flow of time... heck, it works with any topic on this board. You can't make things up too much, someone will still take it seriously.

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>>19087509
Simple, use a go pro lens correction on a spherical object. Just try to do some actual research yourself

>>19087535
Great balls of fire, Jerry Lee Lewis 1957

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>>19087293
That image is misleading - most of the bridge is over land, what's pictured is a short section over a lake.

Danyang–Kunshan Grand Bridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danyang%E2%80%93Kunshan_Grand_Bridge

>>19087293
The math doesn't make any sense at all. What's calculated here, what are these numbers? You enter miles and it outputs feet, without any additional factor? Distance calculations are physics, and there is one rule for formulars: The units MUST add up, too, or there is obviously an error.

>>19080500
Antarctica.

The great flat earth people are builders engineers plumbers painters dad's road workers pilots and tax payers. We are honest and true and live humble lives studying in our time with out government funding

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>>19087364

>You're not confusing geocentrism with "flat earth" are you? Two different things.

no I'm not, and no, it isn't.


with the geocentric model, the earth does become flat.

I am convinced that the earth is stationary, and covered by a glass firmament

you can't prove curvature
you can't prove motion of the earth
there are possibly infinite more continents outside the antarctic ice barrier
the earth isn't a planet, its the bottom floor of the universe, and we were placed in the center

>The geocentric model had the planets and moon and sun doing all sorts of crazy shit, doing loop-de-loops, stopping in their paths, going backwards, and then stopping and going forward again, with no apparent explanation, etc.

thats because they're not planets, but wandering stars, and according to the gospel of Judas, 6 of them are going to be destroyed. the planets in space aren't just dead rocks, but living creatures with wills of their own.

>Pythagoras was just guessing. He based it on all sorts of screwy mythological shit.

this is fallacious, mythology of every EVERY single source states the earth is stationary, fixed upon pillars, and covered by a glass firmament. mythology even dictates that the sun was once stationary, and centered over a disc shape world.

>Well I'm not aware of any real evidence that the Pyramids have any astronomical significance whatsoever.

then you are a fool, and a shill, there's an incredibly deep rabbit hole on this very subject.

>In the Copernican model, planets are simply orbiting around the sun.
thats ironic, in the geocentric model the planets still orbit around the sun, but the sun itself orbits around the earth. which is why the planets mars, venus, and saturn occasionally line up to the 3 pyramids of giza.

> It's a case where two you've got two competing models, one is ridiculously complicated and absurd, the other incredibly simple. It's not hard to see which one is a better model

ironic statement.

>>19087598
>>19087562
>>19086025
>>19085928
any actual "flat earther" looks at the website flat earth society as deliberate misinformation.

>>19088060
> builders engineers plumbers painters dad's
They're obviously not good at written English though.

>>19085474
lol it's actually funny he used this as an analogy

flat earth but also disc shaped earth which is 360 circular earth with a firmament dome like structure above the earth half circle no matter elevation hozion is always eye level.

>>19080524
Who perpetuate it from the start though?

>>19088097
>but the sun itself orbits around the earth.

By this logic, it must be dark all over the world , which of course we know isn't.

>you can't prove curvature
Well, you can. By allowing you to prove flatness using a strong powerful laser to shine from Portugal to Cuba. You will not be able to do that, again providing the obvious, earth is not flat.

>there are possibly infinite more continents outside the antarctic ice barrier
All it takes is one picture to snap that illusion. But since you choose to deny photography that isn't made by youtubers, we start to wonder how you managed to learn to read and write. Or is it write and read? Confused yet?

>...according to the gospel of Judas...
According to the Gospel of Tolkien, Middle Earth is in New Sealand. And they got that one on film. If you turn the map upsidedown it becomes more clear. How about your map? Can we see an actual map of flat earth that can be used to navigate over land and sea? No? See! ¿No?

>this is fallacious, mythology of every EVERY single source states the earth is stationary, fixed upon pillars, and covered by a glass firmament. mythology even dictates that the sun was once stationary, and centered over a disc shape world.
B--but Job tells us the earth hangs in nothing. How can that bible be right and wrong at the same time.

>ironic statement.
Disturbing how you can be right sometimes. Ironically.

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>>19088187
>By this logic, it must be dark all over the world , which of course we know isn't.

by this logic, you don't know anything about anything. the sun orbits on the equator, and it also easily explains seasons.

>Can we see an actual map of flat earth that can be used to navigate over land and sea? No? See! ¿No?

the azimuth projection is probably the only accurate, if you know anything about anything you would also know every single other map is horribly distorted.


>According to the Gospel of Tolkien, Middle Earth is in New Sealand.
you can easily prove that the bible has an origin outside of space and time one of the easy ways to prove this is to demonstrate how it writes history before it happens. look up Cyrus the Great, and Alexander the Great, and their interactions with Jerusalem, and the books of Isiah and Daniel, both written several hundred years before the were born, and bible thumpers will never ever read the gospel of Judas, who betrayed Christ, nor acknowledge it as cannon, if christians aren't reading it, you probably should. you can even apply the same method to other scriptures, a hindu Purana mentions mohammad by name, how much of a piece of shit he is, and the region he spreads insanity and horrible acts

>B--but Job tells us the earth hangs in nothing.

job says the earth is set on a foundation
"Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, "

and so does the rest of the bible.

>Well, you can. By allowing you to prove flatness using a strong powerful laser

there's an EQUATION that demonstrates earths curvature, disproving this curvature equation is one of the first things every single unironic flat earther has done, and you don't need a distance from portugal to cuba to prove it, it only takes 2.99 miles at a height of 6 feet, once you figure out you can see for 50 miles at a height of 6 feet even though something is suppose to be 1500 feet of curvature makes you look folly.

If you believe the earth is flat you are thick as shit. Get yourself an education and stop embarrassing the human race

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>>19088235
>>19088187
>>19088238

you have to know something in order to disprove it.

>All it takes is one picture to snap that illusion. But since you choose to deny photography that isn't made by youtubers, we start to wonder how you managed to learn to read and write. Or is it write and read? Confused yet?

I guess by this logic you think the holocaust happened.

>>19088235
>a hindu Purana mentions mohammad by name, how much of a piece of shit he is, and the region he spreads insanity and horrible acts

i didn't have enough characters to explain this purana was also written in 800 BC, about 1400 years before mohamad and his goatfucking religion came around.

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>>19088245
By that logic I guess you think Germany never raised anger in WWII. And then Nazi's has totally nothing to do with NASA or are okay. NASA is just fine, right?