What is the truth about the sun?

The sun is my godform.

>>19022054

You're just fucking stupid.

This is a potato quality phone, and also those clouds are thin af. The light from the sun is so strong that it makes the clouds that go in front of it to appear thinner (since clouds aren't solid), and the thinner clouds "disappear".

You can see this effect in the upper right picture quite easily with some of the bigger clouds. The pieces of the bigger clouds in front of the sun get thinned out because the light shines through them so much. The reason this effect s not happening in the lower pictures could be due to those clouds being thicker, or closer to the camera.

I think you are onto something here, don't give up.

Unfortunately there are enough people who think that birds and clouds fly behind the sun that it requires debunking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5b3okEhNM

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>>19022054

>>19022054
Wow, whoever came up with this is a genius and cracked the mystery, the sun really is between the earth and the clouds. I bet the guy is on the run, this is dangerous meta knowledge OP be careful!

>>19022054
I think you should stare into the sun for a long time until you figure it out.

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By your logic, what is the sun? If it's a hologram, they couldn't go behind it, either. So what do you believe it is?

>>19022665
god speed OP. at least you got the news out to a few before you were murdered in a dirty hotel room somewhere, hopefully we can carry it forwards to the next group of truth seekers.

>>19022054
Read the Book of Enoch

>>19022054
You want truth?

In the old days the earth had to suns.

The yellow sun and the black sun, the black sun didn't hurted the skin of the people from Hyperboria, living under the black sun gave you white skin and light eyes, while life under the yellow sun gave you red skin.

When the black sun crashed into earth, the great flood washed away the forgotten civilization and the survivors lived under the yellow sun.

The descendants of the black sun won't stop until they create the black sun again, but they don't realize that it's just their blood forcing them.

Cause the black sun can only bring death with it.

>>19022679
kek

>>19022054
Because this is a shop.

And if it somehow isn't, you can increase the exposure on any camera so thin clouds wash out only when they're directly in front of the sun.

>>19022054
The truth is that A TRILLION LIONS COULD WHOOP ITS ASS.

>>19022054
>>19022072
BTFO
/thread

>>19022767
Close, but no cigar. Remove all pretense of religious texts and instead look to Neon Genesis Evangelion. Giant robots aside, it is closer to reality than any of your fictitious god stories.

>>19022054
The sun is a portal to Heaven and if you summon things under a prism roof you might get a better feeling of it being there.

>>19022767
The black sun is on the other Earth, you idiot. There was no global flood here, all that is myth.

>>19023564
Neon Genesis Evangelion is a cartoon about giant fighting robots. The gook who created it thought Biblical names just sounded cool.

It took a bunch of retarded weebs to think it was super deep and anything more than a cartoon about giant fighting robots. It's pretentious as fuck.

>>19022072
no this is stupid.
can i get some REAL answers?

>>19022072
Yes, to summarize, clouds that are sufficiently thin let through so much light from the sun that the exposure of the camera does not differentiate between seeing the sun directly, and seeing the sun through those clouds, thereby allowing for the illusion that those clouds or parts of clouds are behind the sun and that the sun is nearby.

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>>19023643

This is the answer, you're just to bull-headed to accept the truth because it's easier, or fun, for you to believe the lie. Most likely you're just really stupid and don't realize it because no one wanted to be that person who tells you you're actually a mental retard when you were growing up, to spare you the embarassment and shame.

>>19022072
You could also say that its a mirage, shitty phone cameras can't deviate between different types of atmospheric optic types

Don't listen to anyone saying you're stupid. You're not. I actually think this is very interesting. And besides, these kinds of mysteries are what /x/ is for!

>>19022054
OP is onto something revolutionary here!

don't discourage him

>>19022767
black sun = saturn?

>>19022718
wouldn't it be easier to think of it as an orb closer than normally thought? you don't have to jump to the hologram theory

>>19022767
>hurted
retard confirmed

>>19022054
The sun is hot. It gets its head mostly from other stars. It is hottest 300,000,000 km above its surface. It is not a self-sufficient source of energy.

>>19024244
s/head/heat

>>19024244
>It is not a self-sufficient source of energy.
lol wut
explain why earth isn't also heated by
>other stars

>>19024258
Earth isn't a star. That's all. Stars are pretty massive.

>>19022054
Sun looks flat to me. Are there any real photos of a spherical sun?

If the sun is flat, which seems to be the case, just like the moon, earth must be flat too.

But, since lenzen reverse objects, and our eyes contain lenses, we should be living on the bottom of the disc.
There is no gravity, the earth keeps on falling down, resulting in us being pushed against the surface when we jump.

The magnetic field of the sun pushes the moon away, which in turn pushes the sun to go forward. The magnetic field of both keeps them away for earth because of its own magnetic field.

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>>19024321

>>19024329
>Are there any real photos of a spherical sun?
There are probably thousands, but flat earthers will just dismiss them as fake.

>>19022054
there arent clouds behind it. are you retarded?

>>19024409
Please show me one. NASA photos not permitted. Show me one photo of the sun being a sphere.

>>19024434
Dude. Use a telescope on a sunny day where you can see the sun. Put a sheet of paper near the ocular and point the telescope at the sun. You'll see a projection of the sun on the paper with the sunspots. Have you ever done that. Now take a picture with that tracking device you have (smart phone) every 10 minutes over a period of time. Lo and behold -- The Sun spins around its axis.

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>>19022072

>MUH TATERPHONE QUALITY
>LIGHT 2 STRONG 4 THIN CLOUDS
>LOWER PIC CLOUDS (((COULD))) BE TOO THICK OR TOO CLOSE (?)

Wow cool argument. That makes total sense, thanks for your realistic explanation. You sound so confident, thank you for your citations.

>>19022054
It's probably not a nuclear reactor.

>>19024440
Nice try.
Have you never heard of Rob Skiba?
That guy actually did loads of research. He has many vids on youtube as well. And is not paid by the government.
His research shows the earth is flat.
Then the other bodies must be flat too, right. A spherical sun makes no sense, it's only given purpose is to illuminate the earth. One side is enough to do it.
Just because you learned at school they are spherical, does not means it is so.

>>19024469
I think the flat earth theory is retarded, but all you people taking it seriously is making me take the bait.

I'll check that guy and I'll be back to call you a faggot.

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>>19024473

>>19024469
>Just because you learned at school they are spherical, does not means it is so.
Yeah, of course. But a dude called Rob Skiba telling you the moon is made of cheese DOES make it so. Do your own research. I've seen the spin of the Sun.

>>19024469
>>19024473

All right, I'm back.

You're a faggot.

Just because Neil de Black Tyson and (ugh) Bill Nye are retards doesn't make the Earth flat. Just because this guy makes some analogies and reads from the fucking bible doesn't make the Earth flat. He's selling his books that's all there is.

If you really want to know if the Earth is round or flat, why don't you go around it? Does it really mater?

Neil de fag Tyson and (ugh) Bill Nye are just some idiots in a media war and on some sort of a power trip. Yes, they spout a shit load of sheep pellets every time they say something and claim it's science because they say so.
But you thinking the opposite of what they say is true just because they're full of shit makes you an idiot as well.

Just get out of your house more often. It'll do you good.

>>19024479
That's not how evidence works.

If you want to prove something you have to find something that confirms your observations, not just a flaw in someone else's demonstration.

I'm willing to look into a lot more things than most, I know our explanations for how the Sun works is bogus. We don't know what's inside the earth, hell it might be hollow for all I know.

The Earth isn't really rotating around the Sun, that's just a carthesian system we chose for convenience, centered on the sun. Our solar system ows its shape and movement to the surrounding systems as much as it does to its inner workings.

But every time I see a flat earth argument it's just so unbelievably bad. You all should do a little studying yourselves before you eat up someone else's brain farts.

>>19024469
Tep kok

>>19022054
uneducated schitzophrenic fag here something todo with molecular light refraction? yea ez pz bro....

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>>19024506

Oh really? If its a bad argument, why fake the curve at all? Shouldn't round earth be an easy sell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bns4R5ZsVUw

>>19024494
You don't get it.
Claiming the earth is a sphere makes the bible a book of lies. That's why it is important. That is why NASA keeps on making computer images of space, with that poor we-have-to-color-to-give-a-nicer-picture excuse.
And Rob Skiba at least does actual research. He knows what he is doing and he is a Christian. That makes he trustworthy. If you fear God, you don't even wanna lie. Or go on television to become famous.

>>19024536
You're not proving anything by pointing out flaws in other people's proof.

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>>19024542

Keep telling yourself that. If the earth was round, there would be need to fake a curve and brag about it using a fisheye lens.

120,000 feet -- no curve. Watch the end of the video for PROOF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bns4R5ZsVUw

>>19024540
>That makes he trustworthy. If you fear God, you don't even wanna lie.

Oh, ok. Ha, you got me :^)

>>19024547
You're only interested in the evidence that you like and not even doing your OWN research by parroting other peoples claims. Typical sheeple.

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>>19024555

What would be an approved experiment? The bedford level experiment?

Theres no fucking curve, just nasa cgi and noob fisheye lens bullshit. Quit your ad hominem conjecture and make a real argument or GTFO.

Round earth is a lie. Prove its round faggot.

>>19024561
The burden of proof is on you. You're the one challenging the round Earth paradigm. That the Earth is indeed a sphere has been proven beyond a doubt. Up to you to debunk that. Good luck!

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>>19024566

>Proven beyond a doubt
>No proof provided

See
>>19022054
>>19024561
>>19024547

Thanks for playing, try again soon!

>>19024570
>Amateur radio
>Satellites
>Time zones
>Seasons
>Telecommunications
>Swirling water going down a drain north and south of equator
The list goes on but you can find evidence on Google.

>>19022670
I lold
Originoli

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>>19024578

WOW thanks for the unlimited proof of flat earth

>Amateur radio
>Satellites
>Time zones
>Seasons
>Telecommunications
>Swirling water going down a drain north and south of equator

>Still possible on a flat earth map

You're killing it man, good job debunking flat earth.

>>19024587
>Still possible on a flat earth map
How?

It hot

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>>19024591

Why wouldn't it?

https://youtu.be/pGl8I3l-5ac

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>>19024597
>Why wouldn't it?

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>>19024598

0/10

>>19024602
That the earth is a sphere is provable using simple maths.

>>19024597
>tfw when no huge swing from tree
Looks comfy af.

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>>19024606

Show me your simple math then

>>19024613
https://youtu.be/Y4zFX8f2in8

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>>19024606
I enjoy math.

>>19022078
This op

haha nice post op, shills can NOT defend this one

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>>19024619

>"this would actually be possible on flat earth model too"
>litterly no argument

This scottish autist doesn't make any sense. Maybe he needs to first realize the sun isn't 93 million miles away.

See >>19022054

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxMSL9h2ziY

>>19024692
*Attention Flat Brainers: Please understand that I have absolutely no respect for anything you have to say. So don't waste your time*

Disclaimer: The intended audience for this channel is not flat Earthers. If you are a true flat Earther, you have placed yourself beyond the reach of reason and are subsequently a lost cause. I make videos for people who want ammunition to use against this absurdist movement, which has arisen in social media in recent months. Also, these videos are aimed at people who are being swayed by the superficially plausible arguments flat Earthers are making, but aren't yet committed to this insanity. I have less than zero respect for the flat Earth movement, and if I can speed up it's demise I am happy to do so. Flat Earthers are permitted to leave comments which address directly the arguments being made in the respective video. I will not tolerate spamming, links to flat Earth videos, abuse, lies, stupidity, spreading or any other flat Earther tactic. I will block you without a moments hesitation if you transgress these terms. I don't waste my time trying to reason with the unreasonable. Trying to explain to a flat Earther why they are wrong is like trying to explain to the patients in a lunatic asylum why their delusions are wrong. It's a complete waste of time, and you end up feeling like you are going mad. You can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

Exactly this.

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>>19024702

No argument, try again

>>19022054
The truth is that the sun is a stargate.

>>19024329
>There is no gravity, the earth keeps on falling down, resulting in us being pushed against the surface when we jump.
...what? Do you know basic Newtonian physics? It would have to be moving up for that to hold true.

If it is falling, then, when we jump, we would float off of it and go away.

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>>19024728

>believing a freemasons lies

Newton was full of shit and gravity isn't proven.

>>19024739
Shit, sorry, I skimmed your post too quickly and didn't realize you said we're on the bottom of the disc. Even if I disagree with you, I'll give you that my argument was bad.

Anyway, an important question is what you mean by flat.

How thick or thin is the sun, then? Is it really a thin cylinder? Or is it infinitely thin, being a 2-dimensional figure in what we think is a 3-d world? Is it facing down towards us so we can only see its face, as for instance at noon?

How can you reconcile the fact that it's facing "down" on us at noon with the fact that it appears to come up over the horizon and sink below the horizon, facing us "horizontally" from our viewpoint? and then the changes in angle so its flat face faces us from sunrise to noon to sunset...the sun would have to constantly move so that its face is pointing towards us.

Topologically, however, a sphere from far away would simply look like a circle no matter at what angle we faced it.

What scientific force is there to explain the flat sun's movement so we always see only its face?

If it's infinitely thin, then, unless it was moving so its face always faced us, we should be able, from a certain angle, to see it disappear even if it was in the middle of the sky.

If it is a thin cylinder, we should be able to see it change from the shape of a circle to the shape of a thin line, or the side of a thin cylinder (think of a coin --- for all intents and purposes, we call it a flat cylinder, but it's really a thin cylinder) if we just walk to a different angle (which if you take the OP as truth shouldn't be that hard --- if you can see clouds differently from different angles or from driving a bit, and the sun is between the clouds and earth, how much easier it should be to see the flat sun from a different angle!)

>>19024757
>unless it was moving so its face always faced us
sorry, disregard this

>>19022072
That doesn't explain why the clouds are behind the sun, anon.

>>19024757
>flat cylinder
flat circle

>>19024760

>falsely true

square cube

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>>19024757

Nobody is arguing if the sun is thin or thick.

This explains sun movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjvtmzbEgm8

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>>19024728
Not when our world is upside down.
Which seems to be the case because we see things upside down

If you fall for flat earther trolls you are even more retarded than you think FE'ers are.

>>19024561
>The bedford level experiment?

Sure. The Bedford Level Experiment, when done correctly, proves the world is round. That was the first case in modern history where FEers got BTFO.

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>>19024602

>>19024795
What's the significance of the equator on a flat earth?

What is the explanation of icy poles on Flat Earth?

If the earth is flat, why do the north and south poles point in opposite directions?

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>>19022054

>>19024853
the poles don't "point" anywhere
compasses aim toward the center of the disc and we assume everything else from there

his could you even think that's an argument?

>>19024876
A compass actually does not point. It aligns with the magnetic field

Explain Japan having different time zones. If earth is flat and Sun too, it should be same time everywhere. It would be daytime everywhere

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(¬‿¬)

Evidence of earth not being a sphere.
The government does not want you to see this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw

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Wake up people. Japan is innocent. It could never have did Perl Harbor.

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>>19024876
>the poles don't "point" anywhere
Yes they do. Polaris (the North Star) is above the North pole, and the South Pole points in the other direction. Polaris isn't visible from the South pole nor most of the southern hemisphere.

>>19024923
The poles don't point to Polaris idiot. Polaris is/was used to navigate at night because it points to the North.

kek at all the retards taking this post srs

>>19024931
>The poles don't point to Polaris idiot.
Fuck you, arguing semantics. Polaris roughly aligns with the axis of the earth's rotation. Don't like the word "points"? Fine, now fuck off.

>>19024955
That's better.

>>19024931
If you go to the North pole and looked straight up, you would be looking at Polaris. If there were an actual physical barbershop pole at the north pole, it would point towards Polaris.

>>19024597
>why wouldnt it
>pic of round earth
>link to shit video
top kek

>>19024876
Compasses are dipoles, they point in two opposite directions. The magnetic north pole and the magnetic south pole.

But I was talking about the true poles, so compasses are irrelevant.

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>>19022054
I CANT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BAIT OR FULL RETARD POSTS ANYMORE

>>19022054
Flat sun detected

>>19024931
>Polaris is/was used to navigate at night because it points to the North.

No, they used other stars for that purpose. Polaris was used to figure out your latitude.
Interestingly, the period when Europeans started exploring and (re)discovered America coincides with the earth's axis aligning close enough to Polaris to allow for easy navigation.

It concerns me that the only two solar objects I can see both look flat as fuck. I don't see spheres on earth and think they look like coins. They look spherical.
So why do the sun and moon look flat?

>>19024536

Then how come when the earth is filmed from even further away, it begins to distort into a sphere? It's because the earth's curvature is so large that it appears to be flat until you move far enough away from it.

>>19024536
>Shouldn't round earth be an easy sell?

Considering only crazy stupid people believe in flat earth, I'd say it pretty much is.

>>19025573
The Earth is shaped like a rugby ball because it's actually Odin's left nut.

>>19024329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyHzv-QpRls

>>19026137
NASA has a bigger budget then Cubrick, Lucas and Disney combined. I don't trust NASA footage.

>>19022054
Are...are you legitimately retarded? Serious fucking question.

>>19022054
It is a ball of combustible gasses violently burning up.

>>19026162
Do you have any reason not to trust NASA besides not liking what they claim?

>>19026205
An agency that important should not openly share their technology, achievements, missions and material. Yet we never see sensory. They supposedly show everything live on television. That fact alone should wake you up. No secrets...? Really? It makes the world believe America is the most advanced nation. That is called propaganda. And only a fool takes propaganda for truth.

>>19026261
* sensory = censorship

>>19026261
So your argument that they're dubious is they don't use censorship?

The use of censorship is the hallmark of a trustworthy organization?

>>19022054
Op here's what you need to do
>Turn on flashlight
>Put your tiny dick infront of it
>Your tiny dick is now "behind" the light

>>19024244
>the sun gets its heat from other stars

Are you implying that stars get their heat from other stars? How the fuck does that work?

Oh how I wish I was so grossly incandescent.

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cuz the earth is flat and god made it and the sun is not far away

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>>19026282
To not use censorship as a government (semi) agency is suspicious. Do you really want China or Russia know all about you space program? And you say just Google it to know everything?
...

>>19026463
What's the point of beating the Russians to the moon if you don't know you've beaten them to the moon?

>>19026448
\[T]/

>>19024540
Bible never says the earth is flat. You mongoloids are just stretching the words to fit your own retarded vision, which is pretty much what everyone does with it.

It really bothers me the flat earthers using the bible as evidence, it's fucking ridiculous.....just like everything else they believe I suppose

>>19024561
My head hurts, stop making me think.

>>19024466
>I will now restate your argument in a sarcastic tone and belittle you for making it
What the hell are you even saying

>>19022767
You're thinking of nibiru, except that didn't cause a flood

>>19026463
We'll we've done joint missions with Russia and worked with them for space so why would we need to hide anything from them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXFr_2d9m1U

>the state of /x/ in 2017

>>19024561

Two retards with a cell phone could prove the earth was round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

And a fucker did thousands of years ago.

>>19022670
I lold my ass off.

Can a flat earther explain to me how the night sky in the Southern Hemisphere is different from the northern ?

Based off your models the night sky should be the same worldwide.yet it's not.

How is that possible

>>19024815
1. The equator is the circle midway between the north pole at the center and the "ice wall"

2. The sun supposedly rotates directly above the equator during the equinoxes.

I have yet to hear a mechanism for how the sun and moon are suspended overhead, and why they orbit.

>>19024922
Thanks im wanked up.

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>>19026687

>"Additionally, he may have accurately calculated the distance from the Earth to the Sun"
>two retards with a cell phone could prove the earth was round

It only took 1 retard with a wikileaks article to prove nothing.

OMG GREEKS DISCOVERED STUFF, GOTTA BE REAL

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>>19024561
>flatearth12pm.png

Solar time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time

Noon is determined by when the sun is directly overhead.

>>19026800
Source for that image or it's bullshit

>>19022054
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Ha. No seriously, fuck this board

>>19022054 (OP) #

Stare at the sun and find out for yourself

>>19022072

>>19026909

>>19026914

>>19026916

>>19022054
I'm going to sob bitter tears into my pillow for how far humanity has fallen. Thanks, /x/.

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>>19026162
for real. im a hobbyist 3d guy. no formal training. just torrents, tuts, youtube, etc, etc. anyhow, even me being an ADHD faggot with no training, some of my interior renders have passed for a real photograph. again, just a hobbyist, using pirated software i've not been formally trained on, and i can create fake imagery people think is legitimate.

everything nasa has produced is an attempt to gaslight us. nasa, hollywood, the government, disney -- all these entities are working together to keep us fooled. if you cannot look at these entities objectively and see these links, you have a weak brain and you should turn it inside out.

>>19027092
>you have a weak brain and you should turn it inside out.
What?

>>19027092
>thinks that NASA is fake
>accuses others of a weak brain

Good stuff.

>>19027092
>some of my interior renders have passed for a real photograph.
Why don't you post some of your work?

>>19027092
>using pirated software
What software? Maya?

Have you done planetary renderings? How long do they take?

>>19024540
>Claiming the earth is a sphere makes the bible a book of lies.
No, the bible contradicting itself repeatedly makes it a book of lies.

>>19026773
>midway between the north pole and the ice wall

But it's not. The distance between the equator and the edge of antarctica is hundreds of miles shorter than from the north pole to the equator.

>The sun supposedly rotates directly above the equator during the equinoxes.

But if that were true, people in the southern hemisphere would have to look north to see the sun.

But in the real world, during the equinox the sun appears to rise due East regardless of latitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWhSQvejBDk&list=PLX6iy03kvnk7-K05RNRZcPvms8jDb2kzm

>Why don't you post some of your work?

aint posting shit for any of the shills here to reverse lookup and doxx me. wont give those cryasses the satisfaction.

>What software? Maya?

cinema 4d and vray. and octane of late.

>Have you done planetary renderings? How long do they take?

not yet, though i've thought about faking some and passing them off as legit, just so i can prove to these goddamn fuck wits how easy it is to trick them.

>>19024739
>gravity isn't proven.
The fact that you fags aren't flying around everywhere by just flapping your spindly arms seems like pretty good proof to me.

>>19027147
>faking some and passing them off as legit
How would you go about cloud simulation? It would be awfully computationally expensive.

>>19024329
>there is no gravity
>earth is falling

Pick one or pick up a science book 'cus you're talking like a fkin idiot

>>19023664
In the down left corner photograph,those two clouds are the same type.
One passes behind the sun.

>>19027151
It's a theory, which means it's a guess.

>>19022072
im looking at the cloud you bring up is clearly in front of the sun i can see the same picture as you fucktard

>>19027092
post work

>>19027217
Oké,
there is no gravity
and earth has a constant downwards motion.

>>19027338
He won't
See >>19027147

>>19027133
That is not due to the shape of the earth.
Some important claims just don't hold on a spherical earth. So, for the sake of Christianity, it must be flat. Maybe you do not realize what that means ?

>>19024469
>earth flat
what kind of backwater place did you come from

>>19024561
oh nice, just a quick google search of the image will prove that you're fucking right how fantastic and a total idiot you are.

>>19024739
>gravity isnt proven
jeez I hope I dont go to space when I jump even an inch above ground

>>19024561
if you would watch how the marianas trench was made, you'd see how the earth is not flat you dimwit

>>19027092
congratulations, you just made a complete fool out of your own post
also self proclaimed "3D Guy" post your work

>>19027147
awwww now you anons gone upset the faggot

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>>19023552
Not so fast. There are other strange things about the sun

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>reading some of the """arguments""" in this thread

>>19024561
Prove it's not, you degenerate.

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>>19024597
>https://youtu.be/pGl8I3l-5ac
Seriously? A 1 1/2 hour long video, listening to that guy's annoying voice?

>>19024466
>being this mentally deranged

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>>19027498
Black hole sun?

>>19027516
feel free to kill yourself m8 also if the earth was flat why do they let people fly planes they would know its flat, retard.

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>>19027151
>>19027461
I know, right? Why don't these flat earthers just float away already?

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>>19027531
Ok

>>19027531
>if the earth was flat
Uh.. you know I'm complaining about the video, right? If you're going to call other people "retard" you might want to learn how to write coherently, and how to read?

>>19024578
The direction of flow in toilets and drains is due to the design of the fixtures. The Coriolis Effect is a classic, though.

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Gee well look at that haha science supports my claim who would have thought

https://youtu.be/UAifzh7_-cg

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>>19024540
The, "four corners of the earth," that the angels sit on are the cardinal directions. That's also why Christian Esotericism has the Cardinal Angels.

Isaiah 40:21-22 "...the circle of the earth..."

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>>19027572

>science
>using fisheye lens to fake curve

This is what sells flat earth to me, they constantly FAKE THE CURVE

WHY!?? You can quote all these dead freemasons and their incredible science ficiton, you can throw all these math equations and bullshit and say OMG FLAT ERTHERS RETARDED HOW COULD IT BE FLAT LOL

BUT WHY FAKE THE CURVE CONSTANTLY

WHY FAKE SOMETHING THAT WOULDNT NEED TO BE FAKED!!!!!

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>>19027791
Lmaoooooooooooooo the denial

>>19027529
No, that's Nibiru. But lol

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>>19027802

Denial of what???

WATCH THESE FUCKING VIDEOS
>>19024547
>>19027572


I know im getting trolled but I don't care

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>>19027495
no, just beating you children at your own game.

go to bed. you have school in the morning.

your mother raised a retard

>>19027791

Have you considered the possibility that a fish eye lens has other uses than just altering the horizon?

Perhaps you've thought about why people use fish eye lenses for security cameras? Or wondered why another name for a fish eye lens is "ultra-wide angle lens"?

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Topkek

Whenever these threads pop up I usually just assume Eric Dubay or Rob Skiba are strapped for cash

>>19027838
What is the argument here?

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>>19027816
Multiple cameras then :)

https://youtu.be/bDoh8zQDT38

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>>19027791
>>19027816

A fish eye lens can take in about 4x as much visual information as a normal lens. They're used by security cameras for that reason - you can point the camera in one direction and take in 4x the information as a normal lens.

Using a standard lens on a camera in space would mean it would need to be capable of rotating about 45 degrees in all directions in order to take in the same amount of information as a stationary fish eye lens.

Pic related - a standard lens and a fish eye taken from the same angle. Compare the limits of the standard lens' frame to the fish eye.

I know you won't listen to anything I just posted, but whatever.

>>19024469
And if youtube told you to subscribe to Pewdiepie would you do it?

>>19027843
https://youtu.be/pFxsjOqY-xQ
This is his argument; I'm just assuming he can't do the math.

>>19025056
Because all of the baiting and role playing has drawn in literal retards. Behold what we have brought upon ourselves.

>>19027924
https://youtu.be/wExbki15td8
get fucced

>>19028008
Why can't this be duplicated over flat ground? No flat earther goes to prove you can see Kansas city from Topeka

>>19027712
Ain't worry about that.

Do you realize how much water there must be to cover a globe earth?

Or that the sun can not stand still if the flat earth model is incorrect?

Or you can not built a tower to reach the heavens on a sphere?

Or there can not be an earth first before the sun like in Genesis if the flat earth model is not true?

Or see all the kingdoms of the world from a mountain?

Or Jesus can not be seen by the whole world if he comes back by everyone on a globe?

Or being swallowed by a whale if the size of the esophagus is really that small?

In other words... we will loose Christianity if the earth really was a sphere. We have to prove earth is flat or we are doomed.
For now people don't ask the right questions. We like to keep it that way.

>>19027809
Niburu is a space ship. Black hole sun refers to Saturn.

>>19028066
Or your bible was written by a bunch of goat herders 5000 years ago, with a sequel written by goat herders 2000 years ago, and then disassembledo and reassembled who knows how many times between them.
I bet you eat pork and work on the sabbath

>>19028101
I don't work at all, I play in casinos for a living.
But until know (internet age) there remain doubt about the bible. Spherical earth just destroyes the book with ease. If you know how to ask the right questions. We try to keep people (young people ) from learning to ask meaning full questions by making them waste time on insignificant things.

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>>19027864

>>19028136
If xhamster,dot,com told you your sister loves it when she gets molested at night by you, would you think about the possibility for it to be true?

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>>19028149

>>19028033
I don't see how that's a refutation of the expert-verified lens phenomenon. It is designed to be conducted on flat ground and prove that visually lower skylines are an illusion

>>19028268
>expert-verified lens phenomenon
Who's the expert?

>>19022054
its actually a ball of cum from all the times i fucked ur mom hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

>>19022054
If it's that close, then you can get an airplane and fly to it.

Be careful your wings don't melt...

>>19024190
>Its a meme you dip

>>19024469
>do this very easy experiment to prove this claim independently
>"lol nice try"
just fucking go and kill yourself. your ignorance is baffling and you are beyond safing.

>>19024536
>If its a bad argument, why fake the curve at all?
yeah, thats another logical fallacy right here. Please start making arguments FOR flat earth, retard

>>19024547
thats no proof for or against anything you brainlet. show me footage of the flat earth for a change

>>19024561
>do you see a problem here?
No. Because I am not fucking braindead. holy shit

>>19024597
>Why wouldn't it?
Ok, case closed. great argument. lmao, what a dumb faggot

>>19028066
>Or see all the kingdoms of the world from a mountain?
well, you cant. nice shooting yourself in the foot

>>19028596
Are you retarded?

>>19028649
>still not making arguments

>>19028650
There is one made in the video if you're looking for one, you are either blind or autistic.

>>19028656
there is no argument made for flat earth

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>>19028636
>don't ask the right questions. We like to keep it

>did not even noticed the obvious bait

being so stupid thinking people actually are this dumb. Lmao

>>19028716
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>19028268
Any time these lensing examples are given, they are always over water. The phenomenon is never shown to happen over dry land, so what gives? If the earth is flat it shouldn't matter if it is over water or not, you would be able to see 50-90 miles and beyond

>>19022054
https://www.metabunk.org/explained-why-clouds-appear-behind-the-sun-and-moon.t7084/

Questions for flattards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNvKpZmpSmY

>>19029031
this just makes a lot stupid assumptions. what is stopping the moon to be in front of the sun in the flat model?

>>19029063
Well then I guess you shouldn't have a hard time answering his questions.

>>19029070
well, as I said, most of these question are based on false assumptions. It is like asking "why is the sky green?"
Eclipses are explained and predicted in FET

>>19029088
>Eclipses are explained and predicted in FET

Alright, then, explain it.

>>19029095
Moon goes in front of sun. Blocks light.

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This guy is a scientist. Here is your proof

>>19029031
Go read a little bit about the black sun, the thrid celestial object

>>19029095
People have predicted eclipses for centuries, even old fucking tribes can do it, its not anything that we could've only done today, aprox 18 years cycle. makes more sense on the flatearth aswell moron

>>19022054
Sauce? Because this seems like it would be pointed out, IDK, constantly if it isn't a problem of the image itself. We'd have seen this meme a hundred times already, if it isn't just another example of crappy analysis.

>>19029116
Most ancient cultures couldn't predict anything with the moon. It takes over 30 years to track its whole cycle.

>>19029116
Right, and people have known about the round earth for centuries.

>>19029100
Show me a map of the flat earth, along with the relative positions of the sun and moon, that explains its path of totality during the coming 2017 eclipse.

the only thing this thread shows is how little you fucking idiots actually go outside to see the sun

>>19029124
Predicting eclipses goes back to at least 2500BC. Peopla from all across the world had rather sophisticated observatories throughout history

>>19029133
>rather sophisticated observatories

Can't be that sophisticated, they didn't have telescopes. They just made eyeball observations and wrote them down.

Which brings me to another question that's being dodged.

Who were the great flat earth astronomers?

>>19029133
That's fascinating. I think the Egyptians and Chaco canyon, were the only accurate examples of anyone mapping the moons phases. Not sure though.

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>>19029145

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>>19029127
>shifting the goalposts already

>>19029141
>they didn't have telescopes
sure. You can still observe things visible to the naked eye and document their movements over the years. I meant sophisticated for their time

>>19029153
>shifting the goalposts

No, this was the original question in the video.

And also that's just a map of the eclipse. It's derived from the globe.

Show me using the flat earth.

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>>19029152
>This site, now known as the Sun Dagger, was discovered by Anna Sofaer in 1977. After extensive investigation, Sofaer and her colleagues published data that showed that the spirals may also track the 18.6-year lunar cycle.

I'm not sure, but this may only work because we are on a globe. IDK.

>>19029263
I am not sure what difference you are expecting. The shadow of the moon goes across the same places in both models.

>>19029277
Right but the path of the moon and sun make no fucking sense.

It makes perfect sense on a round earth. It's just the earth spinning and the moon revolving. On the flat earth model they're all just moving around randomly, with no predictability or explanation for their movements.

Which is why you're failing to answer any of the questions in the video.

>>19029287
>make no fucking sense
why?

>randomly
nope. thats just blatantly strawmanning. FET doesnt involve the moon moving randomly

>Which is why you're failing to answer
I addressed the questions

>>19029341
>FET doesnt involve the moon moving randomly

Great, then show the model of how the sun and moon move on the flat earth.

>I addressed the questions

You didn't even understand the questions.

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>>19022054
It's hot. And stuff.

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>>19029356
Here is a very simplified version you propably have seen a hundred times.

>You didn't even understand the questions.
Most of them are a bit non-sensical. You have yet to show why this model makes an eclipse impossible.
The moon goes infront of the sun. What is so hard about that concept?

>>19029385
>Here is a very simplified version you propably have seen a hundred times.


Yes, I've seen that model many times. And that's the problem. Because according to that model, the moon CAN'T go in front of the sun, relative to any position on earth.

It also makes Lunar eclipses impossible.

>>19029396
In reality they are obviously moving. Come on man, dont be obtuse on purpose now.

>>19029407
Anon, in that model, the moon moving in front of the sun wouldn't explain the path of totality, nor the timing of it, nor the angle of the sun and moon as seen outside of the path of totality.

Also, do you know what a lunar eclipse is? It's what happens when the earth moves between the sun and the moon. Can you explain how that happens using this model?

>>19029417
Not the same anon, but giving the benefit of the doubt, your eclipse path would have a straight eastern path, or a northern path. How can this model create an eclipse path starting in the north and ending in the south? By every model I've ever seen from a flat earth you would have a straight line across the tropics

>>19022054
OP - to find the truth about the sun you need to look at it at midday with binoculars. The truth will blow your mind - you will never see things the same again.

>>19026843
not OP but here it is, it's from NASA
https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view.php?id=57723

>>19026463
Space is international and can't be monetized other than through the use of satellites. There is no space race anymore, space programs are idealogical globalist organizations and aren't motivated significantly by capital gain. They share information and technology because they share a common goal.

>>19029613

>Using a collection of satellite-based observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds

Well there you go. Says right there is a composite of many different images.

>>19029271
>I'm not sure, but this may only work because we are on a globe. IDK.

It only works on a spherical-earth model, there's a reason why flat-earth models never went anywhere.

My biggest argument against flat-earthers is navigation at sea. Using a flat-earth model, you cannot accurately navigate across the oceans.
All navigational instruments and techniques rely on a spherical earth model. From simple hand-distance measurements of stars that the Polynesians used, to the Astrolabe and the highly sophisticated sextant.

The observed movements of the sun, moon and stars can only be explained by a spherical earth, and only in this way can we successfully navigate across the oceans.
If you "doubt" the spherical earth, spent 6 months observing the movements of the sun, moon and stars across the sky. Get a small telescope, and take notes of where and when they appear.
Even better, take a picture each day of the sun at local noon (when it's directly south/at the highest point in the sky). Then try to fit a mathematical model to your observations.
You'll quickly find that flat-earth models are incapable of explaining your observations.

>>19028927
But the nitrogen and oxygen molecules are there. They must be causing distortion and lensing and refraction, otherwise you would be able to see fairly far away

>>19028327
The guy in the video..

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>>19028927
When you're on top of a mountain, the farthest mountains you can see are quite visibly sitting level on the horizon but are also faded to the point of almost blending with the sky. That should tell you how the atmosphere obscures things past a certain point

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>>19022054
Hahahahahahaha... wait are you serious?

>>19030328
>the atmosphere obscures things past a certain point
Then we wouldn't see the moon, planets and stars setting on the horizon.

Aerial perspective can't explain everything.

>>19030328
>level on the horizon

How do you tell?

>>19030339
No, I'm correct because the atmosphere is thin when your line of sight is perpendicular to it (looking at celestial shit). Even then, it has noticeable effects. When looking at the horizon, you are looking through an incredibly thick blanket of atmosphere because it runs parallel to your line of sight and doesn't just stop like it does when you look into space. That's why the sun is red and ripply at dusk

>>19030357
I concede that it would be very difficult to tell unless you used a huge, far away mountain and the correct math. The point is that the atmosphere causes entire mountains to just disappear and blend in with the sky

>>19030339
My bad misread

>>19030359
Interesting.I always blamed my eyes.

>>19030372
It happens I have a huge mountain chain here and I can vouch that it does occurs as described.

>>19023800
Ah yes, close enough that clouds pass behind it, but not close enough that it stays the same size when planes go above the clouds that are behind the sun, very interesting theory

>>19022054
The clouds are not behind the sun.
Its just that the sun is so bright that a sufficiently diffuse cloud will allow enough light to pass through to create the illusion that the cloud is passing behind the sun.
If you synchronize a camera with a filter, and one without to take a picture of the same cloud you can see the illusion very prominently.

>>19030372
>The point is that the atmosphere causes entire mountains to just disappear and blend in with the sky

Mmm, nope. On a clear day you can see mountains for hundreds and hundreds of miles.

Only thing causing them to disappear is the curvature of the earth.

>>19030339
It is the sun's light and energy diffusing through all the parallel atmosphere that causes the redness and distortion.>>19030357
Ive never seen a moonrise or set sadly.

>>19030394
I fucking hate my new phone

Do you people genuinely believe the earth is flat, or are you just ironically shitposting? Because I can't tell.

>>19030379
Obviously planes are an illusion

I want to believe
Something is off

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>>19030431

>>19022054
Because they're actually further away from you than the other clouds, so they're closer to the light source. And clouds are made of water. The sun shines through those ones, but not the closer ones. This is because they're closer. Do I make fucking sense?

>>19022767
"Black hole sun, won't ya come..."

>>19023576
>"The black sun is on the other Earth"
>All that is myth

*teleports behind you* "Nothing personal, kid."

>>19024329
Well, technically speaking, a photo making a spherical object appear so is very difficult. That's me being polite.

Now, the fuck were you smoking to just pull that out of your ass?

>>19024466
It makes a lot more sense than any of the other potheads around here.

>>19022767
Such bullshit, mostly just uninformed and more than likely racial motivated.

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>>19024981
Uhm?

>>19024540
>Biblical literalism

>>19030817
You realize that's a gag pole, right? It's pvc pipe and ducttape.

Also the north pole is pack ice, it's constantly shifting and melting.

So even if they did place that at the north pole, it wouldn't stay there for long.

>>19030388
>you can see mountains for hundreds and hundreds of miles.
I'd love to see a time-lapse video from the POV of a car travelling west across the Great Plains towards the Rocky Mountains. It would be cool to see the mountains gradually emerge from over the horizon curve.

(or, if the flat earthers are correct, they will reveal themselves in some other way. I guess they'd fade in?)

>>19029417
>the moon moving in front of the sun wouldn't explain
of course it would. The path of the moon isnt perfectly parallel to the surface nor to the path of the sun. The moon changes "altitude". Moon goes in front of sun and blocks it

>>19029661
so?

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>>19022054
Your meme sucks, OP.

>>19030465
And wash away the rain...

>>19029624
Which is???

>>19030508
It's indeed racially motivated, but far from uninformed.

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>>19022054
>>19023552
>>19024536
BRRRRAAAAAAAPPPP