Why was our world, one whose primary objective is to make all

relative to what though? you call it suffering but we could live in a universes with slight changes that would make life unbearable. this is all we have, so how can you say its meant to make us suffer? everyone thinks they're the end all be all

>>19006827
relative to nothingness. i have a huge ego. help me out. everything i know is crashing down. my dad just died and i'm so scared of death, losing what i have. does everyone have to lose? why is it so bad to die? everything does it.

I want to die in my sleep so bad. So, so bad.

>>19006888
Whether it was created by accident, on purpose, or just for the reason of existing, we all know that we exist. We can believe we are given a purpose from the day we are born or we can believe we have no purpose in the end. For everyone that lives gives each their own life purpose, even if they choose to have none. Your father has lived and passed, but it does not mean that he has disappeared from us, he still lives on in you and everything he has affected in his own life. Everything you, he, and I have touched is graced by our presence, a far-cry to show and say to the world "we are here." I do not know how or why your father has passed, but the fact remains that he life has come and gone, for better and for worse. My purpose as a son to my father is to live as he would have wanted me to, to find my own reason to live on and enjoy life, I think it is a purpose that most fathers want for their children. If you truly respected and loved him, acknowledge his impact on the world and celebrate it, he is not truly gone, even when you too eventually pass. You have purpose anon.

>>19006783
>objective: make inhabitants suffer

You just answered your own question, although I'd like to know where you're getting this information from.

>>19006783
The Earth is a crucible.

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>>19006901

>>19006952
thank you anon

>>19006783
>crucible
To know pleasure you must know pain. To gain pleasure, you must pursue it and make an effort - wisdom and dicipline are excellent means, though difficult to master. Life is hard, but that's because we'd not want it any different. You wouldn't be here if you truly wished not too - know yourself, move beyond - start with the basic's, such as wisdom and dicipline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD1dG11YCW4

Redemption

>>19006959
Sounds like gnosticism to me. Buddhists also believe that life is suffering to an extent thougj.

What are you talking about? This world is great. Haven't you ever seen a tree before? Like, what are those? I cant imagine a heaven better than this.

Found the hippy ^

>>19006783
Becuase the world is non simultaneously apprehended

You are a vector on a path unique to you. You must put work into understanding and your will to consciously choose where you will go.

Nature,the laws of the universe are all opposing forces you must exert mental and physical force to over their challenges.

>>19006888
You act like any of this has anything to do with you. You are a cog in a machine. Check out if you want, you will be replaced. The hope is actually im knowing it's not abouy you. It's about the creation as a whole, and it is good. You are encouraged to play along, but you don't have to. Get over it and get with it or don't. The universe doesn't care. Make your own meaning, but please stop being self indulgent.

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>>19007339
Trees are pretty trippy, so are flowers. We live in an alien world full of wonders without paying any attention.

>>19007022
Kill me, Pete

>>19006783
Idiot.

>>19006783
The primary objective of this world (The Universe) is LEARNING. You grow through your shitty experiences and they are getting worse because you still do not learn. What you're thinking of is actually parts of the The Abyss and you end up there for a few eternities if you really fucked up.

>>19006783
You are wrong. The porpouse isn't suffering but finding an answer to a never asked question.

>>19006783
Angsty. It's not. There is a lot of pleasure also. Just have to actually look.

>>19009264
So you ask the question and the show's over? The only thing between all the stuff and breaking apart with a squishy sound is the hole in the form of some big question mining machine?

>>19009224

The primary objective of this universe is one thing and one thing only. Love. To find romantic love with someone else. And I'm not talking about love with a puppy or love a family member gives you. True love.

>>19007380
Nigga whatever. Take a hike. Watch the trees. Listen to the birds and creeks. This planet is pretty dope when you get away from the toils of modern day complications like taxes and shit.

>>19007022
Kill me, Pete

Hey OP.
If you wish I can tell you about the Dark One.
We know how you feel. This disgusting cycle of suffering they call nature, where creatures bound by instinct fight and kill each other for survival only to be rewarded by more suffering.
The cycle must be broken.

>Its a "Boo whoo why is life so hard /x/" episode

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1:1 IN THE beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1:2 Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters.

1:3 And God said: 'Let there be light' And there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

1:6 And God said: 'Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters'.

1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.

1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

1:9 And God said: 'Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear' And it was so.

1:10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters called He Seas; and God saw that it was good.

1:11 And God said: 'Let the earth put forth grass, herb yielding seed, and fruit-tree bearing fruit after its kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth' And it was so.

1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, herb yielding seed after its kind, and tree bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

1:13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

>>19006783
Because we ate the apple you dumb fuck

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1:14 And God said: 'Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years;

1:15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth' And it was so.

1:16 And God made the two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; and the stars.

1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

1:18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good.

1:19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

1:20 And God said: 'Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let fowl fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven'.

1:21 And God created the great sea-monsters, and every living creature that creepeth, wherewith the waters swarmed, after its kind, and every winged fowl after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

1:22 And God blessed them, saying: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth'.

1:23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

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1:24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind' And it was so.

1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

1:28 And God blessed them; and God said unto them: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

1:29 And God said: 'Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed--to you it shall be for food;

1:30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I have given every green herb for food' And it was so.

1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

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2:1 And the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2:2 And on the seventh day God finished His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.

2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and hallowed it; because that in it He rested from all His work which God in creating had made.

2:4 These are the generations of the heaven and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven.

2:5 No shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no herb of the field had yet sprung up; for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground;

2:6 but there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

2:7 Then the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became four heads.

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2:11 The name of the first is Pishon; that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

2:12 and the gold of that land is good; there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon; the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Cush.

2:14 And the name of the third river is Tigris; that is it which goeth toward the east of Asshur And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

2:15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying: 'Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat;

2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.'

2:18 And the Lord God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.'

2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

2:20 And the man gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.

2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the place with flesh instead thereof.

2:22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from the man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.

2:23 And the man said: 'This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.'

2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh.

2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

>>19006783
"earth" is literally a plane of hell

the demons have modeled it after the original earth for some reason

it's why we all know God exists deep down but any attempt we make at contacting him fails

I read that theory on /pol/ a while ago

>>19009552
interesting, anon

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3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman: 'Yea, hath God said: Ye shall not eat of any tree of the garden?'

3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent: 'Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;

3:3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said: Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.'

3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman: 'Ye shall not surely die;

3:5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil.'

3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig-leaves together, and made themselves girdles.

3:8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden toward the cool of the day; and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

3:9 And the Lord God called unto the man, and said unto him: 'Where art thou?'

3:10 And he said: 'I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.'

3:11 And He said: 'Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?'

3:12 And the man said: 'The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.'

3:13 And the Lord God said unto the woman: 'What is this thou hast done?' And the woman said: 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.'

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3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent: 'Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou from among all cattle, and from among all beasts of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.

3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel.'

3:16 Unto the woman He said: 'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.'

3:17 And unto Adam He said: 'Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying: Thou shalt not eat of it; cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.

3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field.

3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.'

3:20 And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

3:21 And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them.

3:22 And the Lord God said: 'Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.'

3:23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

3:24 So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubim, and the flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way to the tree of life.

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I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

>>19009552
The influence of the creator is not as weak as you say, anon.
I used to have a lot of faith in God, and many times my prayers were answered.

>>19006783
It's later than you think

>>19009698
>many times my prayers were answered
When the little voices in your head start telling you to go out and kill people with an axe, then it's time to stop listening to them.

>>19009325

lol i feel sorry for you

>>19007022
Kill me, Pete

>>19006783
>whose primary objective is to make all of its inhabitants suffer
That's some edgy shit, OP. Stop cutting yourself for a minute, leave your basement and get some fresh air, you fat fuck! The only thing that's making me suffer right now is your blatant faggotry.

>>19007022

Kill me, Pete

>>19009552
you might want to take a break from /pol/

>>19007022
Kill me, Pete

schopenhauer get back in your grave

>>19009325
but how do you know what True Love is? How can you say for sure if you haven't experienced it and learned about it? What you say is not wrong and I agree, but this world is about learning, growing and evolving with True unconditional Love as the goal.

>>19010248
why would you pity that?

>>19010039
....sonetimes it is not God which works in those sorts of supernatural ways

>>19009224
>>19009264
>>19009325
>>19010661

"The purpose of life is to find your gift, its meaning is to give it away."
-pablo picasso

True love, is not romantic, it is romanticized. In case you haven't been following along true love is helping others transcend above pain and suffering.
Love is accepting that the world is shit, but realizing that its worth it becuase of those moments when you can see beyond the pain and suffering.
True love is the only magic that exists. But in its meaning is heavy occult undertones.
True love is the one true "hidden knowledge".

True love is helping others to love.

>>19006783
Maybe we were on hell all along. What what ring this is.

>>19006783
It was created so that you may learn spiritual knowledge and return back home to the godhead after death

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>>19006783
It's not supposed to be this bad. Earth is literally the WORST place in this galaxy right now. In your heart you know I'm right.
http://esaccoalition.org/matrix-faq/