Try to convice me that earth is flat. You fucking retards

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It's actually hollow.

>>19005492
You posted a picture of it right there you fucking tourist

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>>19005499

>>19005499
It's actually a torus.

>>19005492
Terry pratchets world is so awesome. I wish I lived in that place

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>>19005510
>torus
Maybe, however I think the crust/shell has a similar thickness everywhere.

Explain the horizon flattards. And dont tell me some bullshit. I want solid proves.

>>19005632
what about the horizon

>>19005492
I like you

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>>19005510
It's actually a tortoise.

>>19005724
It's actually a turtle. Turtles all the way down...

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>>19005739
Is that what Dr. ((((Seuss)))) told you to believe?

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>>19005632
really?
>You fucking retards
I'll bite this time

Try to see past this. it doesn't end its an illusion created by distance

any shallow comments will end my discussion

>>19005515
Same because I could crawl up that giant turtles butt hole.

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Well it's not a friggin turtle for chrissakes. It's a massive intergalactic ship that carries a dome world meant to house lab rats species like ours. Giant turtle-like structure floating in the sea of true space.

Pic related (Dark City, 1998)

>>19005870
Why on Disc would you want to do that?!

>>19005492
It's not, flying from sydney to santiago would take very long compared to europe-america flights and the plane would have to go over the north pole. Even if one of both were true there would be proof of it that, as it could be easily obtainable by retarded flat earthers. But they can't and won't because they're wrong and retarded.

>>19005500
"Tourist"? lol

>>19006005
It's a discworld reference you fucking idiot

>>19005492
>Flat earth thread in disguise as a not flat earth thread
>Not recognizing government psy ops, designed to discredit and disrupt online conversation that might be looking into the truth.

>Oh what? The government is secretly experimenting on people again, in program MKULTRA II: Electric Boogaloo? Ohhhhh, right of course /x/ "found" out about it. You know they believe the world is flat. Laughing_girls.jpg

Anyone who says the Earth is flat, is either a useful idiot or a cia lackey spreading disinformation. Anyone who doesn't ignore them, also just as stupid.

>>19005492
If the earth is round, why are there still monkeys?

You can't prove that!

>>19005857
What? Are u saying that when an object like a boat or something dissapear or appear from the horizont its becuase is "too far away"?. What in the fuck?. Or there's a bottom side on the flat earth? Or they simply get to the border line and fall in to the void? I always though that flattards earth believes in earth as a one side with the sun and moon upon us. (Wich is completly crazy)

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Flattards believers are stupid as fuck but I mean I've met cats and dogs smarter than flattards. Most cats and dogs are smarter than flattards.

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>>19006276

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>>19005492
I keep telling you retards at least once a month that the whole "Flat Earth" thing is a psychological experiment. "They" want to know how much bullshit they can get people to believe when there is NO POSSIBLE WAY they can verify that information themselves.

If I tell you your neighbor's house is blue you can go see it for yourself, with your own eyes. But what if you don't live in that city? You can use Google Maps Streetview, but the image might be old or tampered with. You can talk to someone who saw the house, but they might be lying. There's no real way for you to prove or disprove the flatness our sphereness of the earth. You just have to accept the evidence given to you by other people.

I think it's a precursor to FAKE alien contact. If aliens land on earth are YOU ever going to actually meet one? Will YOU get to go up in their ships? They can trot out some super advanced tech, and some genetically modified people (pic) and say, "these are our space brothers, come to save us! And they want you to take this monitoring implant for your own good."

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>>19006318
Wat's that you say alium overloards? You want us to eztablejj wan world gubbinment? Well ok.

Use the mathematical formulas you learned in high school. And you'll know that earth isn't hollow, as well as other astronomical bodies.

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>>19005492
You sound so open to new ideas(!). How come we only get threads this obtuse on the weekends?

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>>19006700
Oh come on, we're just having some fun.

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>>19006266
There is new evidence of the earth plane being either quite large or even infinite, while my belief is that the earths land we know is at the northern pole of a much larger planet than we are led to believe by science and technology

Not all flat_earthers agree on the shape

I have seen some videos showing this phenomenon

Also remember that on a sphere or curved plane that objects seen from such distances would be lower and leaning away from the observer.

How is it then that a camera or lense can zoom in 20 miles and see anything that should be located well below a curved horizon, plainly observed to be flat?

Check out anything you can on curvature of the earth and you will see and understand.

Soon you will be questioning the world around you looking at objects on the horizon, mentally calculating angles.

They say its a small world, but the world really isnt what it seems to be

>>19006276
Write your thesis shitposter

>>19006967
https://youtu.be/W9ksbh88OJs

What i hate the most of flat earth ppl is the ignorance that they have. I mean, XXI century, living on a free information era, where you have almost everything scientifically explained and yet they are saying that is flat.

And what is really fucking crazy is that we have video proofs that earth is not flat, images, and ¡holy fuck! They start to say those are fake ones and that there are a conspiracy to make us belief that earth is not flat.

Flat earth believers prefers to close their mind in that earth is flat despite the proofs that science has give to us.

Just like fanatic religious people.

>>19006700
If you believe in flat earth, you're the one who's obtuse.

/thread. You're so stupid I'm going to thread my own post. Faggot.

>>19007103
Most of them are religious fanatics, believing the demons live underground and angels above the "firmament." They're subhumans. Just disregard them.

>>19007103
>>19005979

My man, check mate flattards

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>>19005492

>Nasa is full of shit
https://youtu.be/pEE7OPKLhaM

>>19005492
>>19008740

https://youtu.be/Bns4R5ZsVUw

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>>19008740
>>19008741

Why lie about the curve? Is it possible the world is bigger than we've been told?

Nasa can't be trusted. Everything is CGI. I don't know what the fuck we're living on but I know whatever it is, they are lying about it.

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>>19005492

OP do some research on admiral Robert Byrd and Antarctica. He said theres more land to be discovered and they are lying about the south pole. Its full of mountains of coal that could generate the world for centuries, also lots of uranium.

>>19008741
What does drumphf have to do with it?

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>>19008753

You tell me, did you watch that video?

VICE news was faking a curve using a fish eye lens.

>>19008757
No I get it. Why did they send a printed out tweet to Trump? He never mentioned flat earth

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>>19008759

Who knows. Maybe they didn't like when he used to talk shit about china, maybe they thought tagging him would create a larger audience.

>>19005505
what dis?

>>19005857
You are wrong though. How is it the moon doesn't disappear?

How can I see further when I go higher? The distance to the "vanishing point" is further away because Pythagoras so surely I can see less far?

>>19006027
The great conspiracy theory conspiracy theory theory. Or it could be that there are loads of actual bona fide idiots who are allowed to use the internet as a giant echo chamber circle jerk. Them and the trolls.

>>19006318
>There's no real way for you to prove or disprove the flatness our sphereness of the earth.

Curvature is easily proved by climbing the stairs in a tall building. If that's not good enough to then some simple geometry and trigonometry does it instead. There's no meta conspiracy - people are just fucking stupid and your one of them.

>>19006967
The maths in that misinfographic is wrong. The Earth is not of course perfectly spherical so if you're on higher ground of course a camera will see further. Especially if you factor in diffraction.

>>19008917
Why do you try to prove your opponents wrong without looking at their arguments though?

>>19008930
There is no argument for a flat earth that stands up to anything more than casual consideration. The behaviour you're describing is that of flat earthers.

>>19008947
Just shows that you react instinctively without haven't looked into the topic at all. It's absolutely fine because you can't go through life questioning absolutely everything, but don't pretend you researched the topic.

>>19008913
We don't take kindly to people without paranoid delusions round here

>>19005492
Convince me the sun is not flat. Real non-photoshopped pictures will do.
O wait, you can't.

Sun = flat
Earth must be flat too, makes sense

>>19005492
I believe its round but...

If you approach it from the perspective similar to "you cant prove anyone exists but you", then you cant prove the earth is round.

If you think critically, you must accept that all scientists, media, and outside sources could be completely lying to you.

You havent seen the earth is round, you havent been to space, you have done none of the math yourself, and if you did, you didn't discober that math, so really youre putting your faith in the discovery of other humans.

No matter how much sense it makes.

>>19006027
>government psy ops
This is probably correct.

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>>19005492

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>>19009037

>>19009032
This is the new low.
"If you didnt went to space or either did the maths, then earth is flat" i feel sad for this kind of people.

>>19009036
You get bullied a lot on /x/ right?

>>19009052
The next low is gng to be "i dont understand maths, so earth is flat"

>>19009055
Nope, I started to wonder the real goal of Flat Earth postings.

Being bullied on a forum is about the dumbist things I ever heard. Nobody forces you to visit the site. If you are not welcome, leave.

>>19009052
Did you read the first sentence? I fully believe science and Im well educated. I know critical thinking and proper research and believing experts more educated than i am in things. But I like playing devils advocate.

Because in the end you really have no idea and its a fun idea to play with once in awhile.

>>19005492
Get a pen.
Put it on the ground.
See if it rolls.
It dosent roll does it?
EARTH IS FLAT HAH GAT"IM

>>19009073
>I am well educated

No you're not.

>>19008749
>he said there's lots of land to be discovered.

In the sense that in the late 40s, most of Antarctica hadn't been explored. Now it's all mapped by satellite.

>lying about the south pole

He never said this at all.

>>19008759
>he never mentioned the flat earth

He thinks global warming isn't real and vaccines cause autism.

So it's the same basic thin.

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"Flat Earth" is a conspiracy created to discredit the hollow earth, which has been picked up by trolls.

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>>19010245
Actually Anon, there is now official scientific evidence to prove that the additives in vaccines actually do cause autism.
ORIGINAL SOURCE - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215490
MIRRORED - https://archive.is/137Of

>>19010307
>actually there are over 200 proofs of flat earth

>>19010307
you must think you're really funny, and maybe you are, but please just stop

Why doesn't someone just go find out again

>>19010245
But both are correct. Mercury in vaccines causea autism and human made global warming is insignificant.

>>19010336
>and the world is really flat

>>19010338
Not sure how these two are related.

>>19010341
They're related because they're demonstrably wrong, fundamentally absurd, require breathtaking stupidity to actually believe, as well as massive international conspiracies of an absurd degree.

>>19010354
Maybe flat earth but neither vaccines nor human made climate change are this though.

>>19010368
They are.

Just because you're stupid enough to believe in vaccines causing autism or no global warming, it doesn't make them any less stupid than flat earth.

>>19009043
>>19009037
>>19009036
this is literally also a suppression technique, you are taking advantage of the naivete and ignorance of stupid people by showing something like this, as is what I'm doing explaining that anything said by anyone can be a suppression technique.

nice try guy

>>19010372
You already misunderstood my position even though I only told you a minor thing about it. I don't think you are someone who can decide whether something is stupid or not.

>>19010383
anything said by anyone who disagrees with you can be a suppression technique*

had to fix that

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Let's see flattards. What would they get (nasa and other) in exchange on hiding us that the earth is flat? There must be an answer to that if you really believe that is a whole conspiracy.

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>>19005904

>>19010383
Look, they should know about the techniques.
But flat earth is such an example of this technique in use.
Of course it is up to themselves to do research.

Unfortunately, research sounds like "take a shower" to a Jew, to them.

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>>19008917
>>19008930
>>19008947
>>19008994
People with basic engineering skills can do the tall building proof WITH THE HELP OF TOOLS, like binoculars or surveying instruments. So yes, it is within the realm of A SMALL SUBSET OF PEOPLE to prove that the earth is CURVED.

For MOST people you still have to take the word of someone else. The earth being a sphere is easy because there are so many different ways to prove it. It's not that it's easy to prove that the earth is a sphere, it's that's it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to fake EVERY independent proof.

With something like aliens (or angels) there would not be thousands of independent verifications, but only a few carefully controlled sources. I'm sure "they" have a formula: "If x# of people believe the earth is flat, then y# of people will believe the (fake) aliens are real. (y=bx, b>1)"

>>19005492
it hurts my soul that in 2017 when you can literally google search anything and read all of the science humanity has collected that there are people who seem to honestly believe flat earth.

>>19006027
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

>>19010354
>believing man made global warming makes any difference

Guessing you're a flat earth supporter too huh?

>>19012619
No, anon, I'm a scientist.

>>19012619

>believing mom never said it

and I knew you would, I could see it in your teeth when you smiled to me that morning after we found it together. Every tooth from every corner we shared, and yet you - YOU - still couldn't talk about it anymore. "Where was the water" you said, and I couldn't even bring myself to look at dad after that because of how he looked at you when we all talked, like it wasn't just another family dog it was OUR dog and you never even said that much to any of them.

>>19012287
Totally

>>19012649
Wot??

>>19012287
Googling and reading someone fake check the flat earth theory doesn't prove it. At every step you rely on someone else to deliver you the truth.
It's not that the earth is actually flat it's that if it were you would still not believe it.

>>19013643
No, if the earth were really flat I would believe it.

If the earth were flat, there would be clear and unequivocal evidence., and I would go where the evidence lay.

I don't believe in a round earth just because I like round things. I believe in the round earth because that's what all the evidence shows.

>>19013683
You never examined the evidence. This is why your epic argument is always to use google and examine the proofs someone else delivered. This is just blind trust into benevolent authority that obviously would never lie to you.

>>19013733
No, I've seen all the evidence that flat earthers have to offer. Actually that's none, they don't offer evidence.

But they do offer arguments and I've heard all of those too. None of them hold any water. It's all false claims and delusiosn and arguments from incredulity.

If you want to offer up some, I'll shoot them down for you.

>>19013752
What is the shape of the earth? With proofs.
If you are so certain that you have the evidence you will have far better arguments that "the burden of proof is on you".

>>19013763
Ships disappearing hull first
The horizon dropping below I level at altitude
shape of the earth's shadow during a selenehelion
foucault's pendulum
coriolis and eotvos effects
masses weighing less at the equator
Disappearance/appearance of stars at different latitudes, e.g. Polaris
Gravity being a thing that exists
photos of earth from space

>>19005904
I see what you did there

>>19006687
Yes you would like us to believe that

>>19013781
>Ships disappearing hull first
They don't. It's distortion, not curvature
>The horizon dropping below I level at altitude
Fish eye lenses
>shape of the earth's shadow during a selenehelion
Not a proof of spherical earth
>foucault's pendulum
>coriolis and eotvos effects
>masses weighing less at the equator
None of that can be verified by yourself
>Disappearance/appearance of stars at different latitudes, e.g. Polaris
Doesn't require spherical earth
>Gravity being a thing that exists
Not an argument
>photos of earth from space
Almost all of them are simulations not actual photos

>>19008920
It appears to be curved its just an example

>>19013822

>They don't. It's distortion, not curvature

Nope, no distortion. Works on perfectly clear days.

>fish eye lens

You didn't even understand the argument. I'm talking about the horizon dropping, not curving.

>not proof of a spherical earth

A shape that casts a circular shadow at all angles is by definition a sphere. So yes, it's proof of spherical earth.

>none of that can be verified by yourself

No, foucault's pendulum, eotvos and coriolis effects, and the change of weight are all verifiable.

You can build your own foucault's pendulum. Sharpshooters regularly demonstrate both Coriolis and Eotvos effects. And you can demonstrate the change in gravity by going to the hardware store and buying a scale, then travelling to different latittudes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX3upPW7uw4


>doesn't require a spherical earth

It does, yes. Especially the rate at which stars move at latitude.

>not on argument

The argument is rather obvious. Any sufficiently large object naturally forms into a sphere. Because gravity exists, the earth cannot be flat.

>almost all of them are simulations

You only need one real photo of earth from space. And there are thousands. Meanwhile, there's not one single photo of the edge of a flat earth.

>>19013854
Feed the Trolls
Tuppence a Bag

>>19008994
It proves nothing of the sort. You have zero evidence to suggest I have not already looked into the subject you're just letting your prejudices inform your judgement.

And that's the trouble with flatmates - they won't consider any kind of null hypothesis.

>>19013954
>I'm only pretending to be retarded

Guess the joke's on me.

>>19006027
Because your government doesn't spy on you. Right, fucktard? I bet youre a honkey that voted trompas.

>>19013994
whether they're pretending or not they're still just Trollfags who will argue indefinitely with zero evidence

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that using logic and intelligence with them is hopeless

get out while you can

>>19014013
Did you actually completely miss the point of what he was saying?

In one thread there was a picture explaining that the earth should point away from the sun after 6 months and that day and night should actually be switched with eachother. I can not forget that one and I can also not explain why this is actually not the case in the real world.
If the earth spins one rotation in 24h and also spins around the sun, then doesn't it point in the wrong direction away from the sun after some time.
I am slowly becoming some retarded mix between flat- and globe-earther. Please help.

>>19013822
>>Almost all of them are simulations not actual photos

Did you say, "almost" every photo that proves that earth is round are simulated? So there are some "no simulated or fake" photos that proves it in the way you said it.

Jokes on u. Flattard :))((:

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When I was ten years old, I used to think the world was a simulation, the government is lying to us, and we are all being monitored and controlled by some sort of higher species. I would have nightmares that they found out I knew and were coming to extract me and I would be forced to recognize what was the "real world"

As I got older I realized that's fucking ridiculous. Thus in my eyes flat earthers and other conspiracy theorists that deny objectivity are mentally ten years old.

>>19014245
Question got answered here: >>19014332

>>19014369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KcPNiworbo

fukken pwned

The entire international space program is bogus. Nothing has gone into space. I think we are on the inside of a sphere. The night sky is a smaller sphere. Everything is organic, and alive. We are inside an egg. It makes no sense to be on the outside.

>>19005492
Okay, you fucking faggot. The earth is flat, I swear.

>>19014546
Have you done much traveling? Outside of YouTube of course.

>>19014546
lol it's Lord Steven Christ

Imply you control the NSA again

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>>19014559
Now im a flat believer

>>19008910
Because the moon is really, really fucking big you inbred Neanderthal.

>>19006103
Because aids hasnt killed them all yet and doesnt spread in their social structures like humans

>>19015165
how big is it in FET?

>>19007165
Proves nothing, he didnt do the work,

>>19008744
I distrust the internet more than tv. Everything on it is in some imaging format that can be altered at will

>>19008910
It doesnt disapear, when would it?

How high have you been?

>>19015214
>How is it the moon doesn't disappear?
>It doesnt disapear
hurr fucking durr, nice answer

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Why is the Himalayas so big in this photo?

>>19015232
That's because it is not real.

>>19008917
Same can be said sitting in a long hallway facing one wall, look at the curve above you where the wall meets the ceiling and below at your feet where it meets the floor goes from one end to the other. Is this not an illusion? Surely you dont believe all walls are curved! Its call a vantage point. And it doesnt simply dissapear over a horizon

>>19006297
Why don't you show proof you fucking retarded fucking retard.
You asking for proof is like asking for proof that good doesn't exist. kill yourself, homo

>>19015232
so now all of sudden you retards dont know about "fish eye lenses". lmao, get fucked

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Starting to see the bigger picture......?

>>19010607
Control

>>19012287
Non acredited info on the net cannot be trusted thats the real agenda

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>>19009786
Made me lose my shit

>>19015226
Are you implying it does disappear?

>>19015232
Because the Himalayas are big.

>>19015340
>"how is it that bananas are curved?"
>are you implying that bananas arent curved?
what?

>>19015258
Whoever you are anon bless you

>>19014546
If the ISS isn't real, how come I can see it pass over?

>>19015258
Well I'm seeing bigger glare.

>>19015352
Pretty sure they grow that way

Whatever your person agenda, its not going to divert my attention

if you have something to add please do.

>>19015354
Have you ever been to a planetarium?

>>19015378
Only fake cgi planetariums.

>>19015389
>planetariums are cgi
wew

>>19015283
Dont have proves. Gtfo anon

Flattards way of thinking:
>>You never went to space, so you never seen that earth is round. So, is flat.
>>You didn't do the maths, so you dont have any prove. So is flat.

We dont see air but we know it does exists. Right?

Next to this thread..
People who thinks that air dosn't exist.
Fucking airtards.

>>19005724
"See the turtle of enormous girth, on his shell he holds the earth"

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I tried to ask an actual question. An odd thing bothers me and it's pretty simple. It's a trivial thing which boggles my mind and every day I keep wondering. I come from the coast and have never seen the underside of the clouds as they descend over what is supposed to be curved water. This has only recently occurred to me. This started when a friend showed me images of Chicago over lake Michigan at 46 miles away on a zoom in every type of weather at all hours of day and night. I can't deny my eyes.

But that's not what is pushing me towards the flat earth idea more and more. Every day I dip a little deeper and it has been the opposition to the idea that has clued me in. They seem almost infantile in their belief in 'black science guy' and act in an almost fundamentalist fashion towards opposing ideas. Rabid even. Now I come from /pol/ and we pick up on the three types: CTR shills ShareBlue shills, and useful idiots.

The people who 'defend the globe' seem to have an almost religious fanaticism, a deification of sorts, of this model. We live in a time when fanaticism is hand in hand with rabid scientism and a disregard of reality; Bill Nye and all popular science figures suddenly pushing outright lies. And they're celebrated as kind of a new priesthood for materialistic objectivism which itself does not claim to be religious yet is clearly a church - and its dogma is the globe.

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>>19015354

You're told you see it.

Try aiming your telescope at a 747 5 miles high moving at 500mph.

Now try aiming your telescope at an object, not much bigger than a 747, traveling at 250 miles high moving at 17,000mph.

If you say you've seen it (not some image on TV/internet), you're a liar.

>>19005492
You can never see the earth's curvature, why? because it's fucking flat

>>19015995
You know telescopes are on mounts and you can move them, right?

Also the ISS is easily visible with the naked eye.

Why havne't you gone out to look? Are you lazy? Scared?

>>19015946
Have you ever been in a plane? You can literally see the curvature of the earth on some flights.
Have you ever balanced an egg upside-down? Go ahead, try it right now. It won't work. However, wait until the fall or spring solstice and then try it. It will work, fairly easily. What possible exppanation does this have in a flat earth model?
>Now I come from /pol/
Oh, there it is. You're a brainwashed retard.

>>19016058
Somewhat lazy but Scared mostly,

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go cry in my room.

have you lot seen the repeated narratives in the new king kong and planet of the apes film trailers

king kong

"giants exist"
"we don't belong here"
"giant creatures exist along time before we humans arrived on the scene"

planet of the apes

"i didnt start this war"
"human gets sick ape gets smart"
"i offered you peace i showed you mercy"
"no matter whats said you will replace us thats the rule of nature"

well maybe they were in charge before we got here we aren't native the mud fossil theory fits in with giants and giant apes

>>19016962
We are the apes
Giant martians/ayys let us evolve after mining gold.

>>19015946

It's incredible how every single time a flat earther rolls onto /x/ to take a dump it ends up being a /pol/tard. Every single fucking time.

>>19016058
ISS isn't visible even with telescopes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iza7lNy69g

your a delusional fucci-boi for NASA

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>>19015946
/x/ has it's own group of shills that ignore the "chaos magic", "astrial travel", "lay lines" and various other bull shit

But attack stuff like the flat earth and how nothing we have been told about WW2 has been anything but banking propaganda.

It's interesting the shills only attack topics that actually have merit and could have an impact.

it is flat, it's also round. deal with it.

>>19017020
>It's interesting the shills only attack topics that actually have merit and could have an impact.

Maybe it's because chaos magic, astral travel, and ley lines are all just LARPers LARPing and they know it and everyone knows it, but when someone rolls onto the forum talking about the Earth being flat we can all unite against something that everyone thinks is flat out retarded.

>>19017016
Are you honestly this delusional? It's so painfully obvious that the horizon is manipulated.

You are so completely delusional it's not even worth laughing at. You'll believe anything NASA tells you because it's the easier thing to do but you won't even open your eyes to anything else.

Hilarious how the second some proof comes out about flat Earth you shills come in with "but NASA told me it's round." Are you seriously this stupid?

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>>19017031
tl;dr

Your butt hurt / violent reactions makes me think there is more to the flat earth than stoner science.


There ARE magic shops and "astrial travel" classes they charge people for.

http://www.refinery29.com/occult-stores-nyc

That is pretty fucking far past flat earthers in terms of LARP commitment.

However no one makes a dime off the flat earth meme and LARP, but it's attacked so viciously along with anything else that could have potential merit or actually be fun i.e. fringe science

In fact, it seems like fringe / stoner science and conspiracy theories seem to be the only thing the shill force on X really goes ape shit over.


>>19017036
Did you reply to the wrong thread bro?

>>19017043

I read your post you idiot, I can see you shilling. If you can't stand an opinion that somehow veers away from what your textbooks taught you, then why are you on fucking /x/?

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>>19017048

I said the ISS doesn't exist / isn't visible, you're making flat earthers look like retards.

Why would a NASA shill be posting Eric Dubay / Satellite debunking videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-RnKAN9qY

Maybe you are a shill / plant to make them look stupid?

or maybe you have to be really fucking stupid / stoned to go for this shit

>>19017043
Flat Earth isn't fun to talk about anon. That's the end of it.

Let's say the Earth is flat. Ok - that changes....what?

All the hocus pocus bullshit can be fucked aorund with. Stories can be told, creepypastas written, theories put out. Ghosts - are they souls, are they pieces of time stuck in a loop, are they conscious? Aliens - are they visitng, atre they observing, is there more than one race? Skinwalkers, vampires, mothman - the list goes on for things you can do all sorts of shit with and have great conversations about.

The Earth is flat - ok. Er.....great.

Whether it's true or not doesn't even matter anymore. It's just fucking boring, and there is nothing interesting about it, and so people can only either attack or support it.

Fucking boring, plain and simple.

>>19017053
>Why would a NASA shill be posting Eric Dubay / Satellite debunking videos?

Read his post and then ask him. He posted it, I didn't, and it was ridiculous.

It's so typical of sheep that eat up whatever their school taught them to just jump to "oh you must be some sort of fucking stoner to believe in this flat earth shit." Is that really your only argument? All that does is show how weak your position is if you don't even understand WHY you defend something that more and more evidence is showing is just flat out wrong.

You retards defend the fact that people change their theory about the unvierse beginning every week, but then more evidence comes out showing that the horizons are faked, that there is active work hiding the shape of the earth from us, and suddenly you slam the door. it's pathetic, and you should honeslty be ashamed of yourself for being so closed off.

>>19005857
If this were the truth thing would not disappear over the horizon even with a telescope.

>>19017053
you flat earthers are so retarded you don't even know when you're arguing with each other. i can't fucking believe it.

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>>19017054
>Flat Earth isn't fun to talk about anon. That's the end of it.

I think it's way fun to talk about.

I think you're missing the appeal of conspiracy theories.

While both ghost stories and conspiracy theories sort of are the enemy of "mundane reality" i.e. school / work / teachers / bosses / authority etc...

While they are both an "escape" from balancing your check book, so to speak, conspiracy theories give people hope that "the truth is out there"

Conspiracy theories are denying "authority" in terms of "what we've been told", which heavily appeals to anyone adventurous or wanting to believe a better world is possible.

If flat earth is true, or if at very least NASA is lying about "everything"... then it means that we are in a near "Trueman Show" level conspiracy.

So that means our maps are all wrong, our technology is controlled by an elite cabal, and we "can" find a way out.

I love the flat earth idea so much because it has this "Ice Wall" mythology. If you could some how cross over the ice wall, you might not find a flat earth, but maybe more earth?

Remember Admiral Byrd's flight?

In a world heavily populated by the offspring of pioneers, settlers and explorers, the idea that there is more to explore is also very appealing.

>>19017073
Personally a conspiracy theory that requires essentially 95% of the world being in on it is just too out there for me to suspend disbelief.

Aliens - maybe the 0.0001% know the truth. That I can swallow.

Ghosts - who knows, none of us know the truth yet. Rooms for all sorts of speculation.

For flat Earth to be a legit conspiracy the sheer volume of people in on it would be positively astounding. It's just way, way too much for me to suspend disbelief and play with. Plus it requires coming up with bizarre reasons why they would hide it to begin with - every single scientist is being paid to tell the world that it's round, every college physics and high school science professor is being paid to teach the world is round, historians and religious figures and and and.......all being paid because of what?

If aliens descended from the stars, our entire culture would change. Religions would be rocked, people would be jumping out of buildings. If ghosts were proven real, suddenly all those same things happen.

The earth is flat we.......uh, all go "huh, that's weird" and wander on with our day because absolutely nothing changes.

I love a good conspiracy even when it's way the fuck out there, but flat earth is just too much.

This board is the dumbest board on 4chan and sadly I'm including /b/ and /pol/. Every time I come here from a thread on the home page I'm amazed.

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>>19017084
>essentially 95% of the world being in on
It would be easy to contain it to the .000001% . It's not like there are any private space companies.

The only gate keeper is NASA and other National Space Agencies i.e. all government controlled.

>every single scientist is being paid to tell the world that it's round

I think you're way way way off the mark with this. I've got a degree in physics and a master's in CS with a specialty in environmental simulation.

So I'd qualify to be called a "scientist".

I've done a lot of computer flight simulations, and nothing I've done has showed me that our planet's geography is being reported to us accurately or even than the planet is a globe.

Here is a good physics break down of the fact that gravity almost plays no role in falling objects.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/272978/if-there-was-no-gravity-in-what-direction-would-an-object-float

>The earth is flat we.......uh, all go "huh, that's weird" and wander on with our day because absolutely nothing changes.

I have no idea how fucking lame you are, but people burning globes and throwing away maps and calling for the heads of NASA would be pretty fucking major bro.

Then people demanding expeditions to explore "beyond" the edge, it'd be way more fucking exciting than being stranded on a ball millions of light years away from anything fun.

>>19016962
non-sequiter, stay on topic anon, or is your attention span that of a gnat also?

>>19016992
i sir am not a /poltard

>>19017108
Sorry man, to each their own and more power to you, I just need something to grab onto and float with in order for me to get excited about a conspiracy theory. A reason why it's a conscious conspiracy that people are working to keep hidden.

Every time I ask a flat earther to tell me why this would be something the government would hide they hem and haw about it and just tell me I'm retarded for not believing. Flat earthers are their own worst enemies because they just don't even make the damn theory appealing.

You're right, people would be losses at NASA and we would have expeditions and it would be a pretty crazy time. But for what fucking reason would it be hidden in the first place?

It just is such a perfect example of a conspiracy for the sake of having a conspiracy, rather than a conspiracy growing from a series of events.

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>>19005857

>>19015214
I think the real question is: how high is he right now?

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>>19017138
>Every time I ask a flat earther to tell me why this would be something the government would hide they hem and haw about it and just tell me I'm retarded for not believing.

I totally agree with you here. Most people into the mythology / conspiracy do get hostile pretty fast. The Eric Dubay guys is a prime example how he chimps out at people.

>But for what fucking reason would it be hidden in the first place?

I'm not on board with the "flat earth" idea 100%. I like the "flat earthers" who do a lot of research, because the fuck with NASA's / The Government's / Big Brother's narrative.

So let's break down the why into two sections, first being why NASA would fake their stuff, second being why the governments of the world would want us to believe in a round earth.

1. NASA's managers could easily buy parts from their "friends" materials company and take massive kick backs on the cost. This already happens. Now the space program gets billions of dollars, this means lots of room for crooked government contracts.

Now, why would NASA be allowed to fake this shit? Simple, we couldn't look incompetent to the rest of the world. If the rest of the world thought we had a shit space program and no real defense systems, we'd not just be setting our selves up for humiliation, but possibly an attack.

So, no one would whistle blow on how we have a shuttle that can't go to space. If they did, it'd be easy to justify killing them quickly to protect national security.

tl;dr movie studio cost less than a real space program, big kick backs for crooked government contracts.

cont...

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>>19017168
2. Now the idea that we are on a planet that has vast un-explored regions or is fucking flat, that requires we look at a more "sinister" conspiracy, kind of a "enslave the human race" conspiracy, remember "Dark City" ?

Let's just be real about un-explored land. If there were large bodies of land that were un-explored, government would not want people flocking to them. Remember what a big mess the whole "USA" was? Everyone escaping serfdom to the royals?

Why would they want to let their slaves get back off the reservation? They need us to be paying taxes and good little cubical dwellers, food servers and consumers. They don't want a bunch of upstart settlers / peasants going off and resettling and using up resources on some plentiful land beyond and taking all the resources the corporate owners have already decided to split up amongst them selves.

Now, that is kind of assuming there is "something" beyond the "ice wall".

Now if there is fucking nothing, or as a lot of them are saying, a giant fucking fish bowl like enclosure on it... thats a bit different.

However, if it was reveals that there was some magical fucking wall at the "end of the world", you'd have people flocking there to go worship it and set up churches to talk to it etc... this would create another massive destabilization in the citizen population.

Or maybe there is something really fucked up and horrible at the edge, like prison guards? They just don't want everyone loosing their minds? Maybe there is an alien race that is growing us in a big dish to poke at us?

The reasons could go on and on man, but I think the main thing is control of population to specific regions on earth.

I posted the globe images above - America is shown clearly as being two different sizes.

Not a flat earther, but it really makes me doubt NASA.

>>19017168
>1. NASA's managers could easily buy parts from their "friends" materials company and take massive kick backs on the cost. This already happens. Now the space program gets billions of dollars, this means lots of room for crooked government contracts.

This doesn't make sense when you look at the budget for NASA, which is one of the SMALLEST government budget items, and has its funding cut very often. If you're trying to launder money, why keep making the "official" budget for the program smaller? Why not launder money through a MUCH larger program, like defense spending or social security or healthcare?

>Simple, we couldn't look incompetent to the rest of the world.
How would this work? The OTHER space prgrams are legit? Don't ALL the governments on Earth lie and fake stuff about space? Does this mean the photos from Russia or China are real?

>They need us to be paying taxes and good little cubical dwellers, food servers and consumers. They don't want a bunch of upstart settlers / peasants going off and resettling and using up resources on some plentiful land beyond and taking all the resources the corporate owners have already decided to split up amongst them selves.
It would be 10000000% easier to not hide the land, but produce a piece of paper that says "this land belongs to ____, and any value produced there belongs to _____."

>if it was reveals that there was some magical fucking wall at the "end of the world", you'd have people flocking there to go worship it and set up churches to talk to it etc... this would create another massive destabilization in the citizen population.
The only reason this would happen is because it was hidden for pretty much all of human history. This is a reason for why you SHOULDN'T keep it hidden.

>prison guards?/everyone loosing their minds?/alien race that is growing us in a big dish to poke at us?
None of these hypotheses give an explanation for why the human govts. would be in collusion with this.

>>19017187
Do you know where the pics were reported to be taken? How far away each time? What angle in relation to N. America the camera was?

Are you aware that these things would affect how N. America looks in the pic?

Have you gone through the archives of the EPIC camera to see if there is any discrepancies in the size of the landmasses? Because that camera doesn't change its position in relation to the Earth, so all the landmasses should appear to remain a constant size.

>>19017016
>ISS isn't visible even with telescopes
this is a lie that EVERYBODY can check. Literally everybody can look up when and where to look for the ISS and see it with the naked eye. you are a liar. why are you so blatantly lying? such a shit lie too. Like saying, you cant see dogs. Literally the same you fucking liar. kys

>>19017084
>The earth is flat we.......uh, all go "huh, that's weird" and wander on with our day because absolutely nothing changes.
yeah maybe ignorant brainlets like you would. holy fuck

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>>19017187
This just gets explained in literally every fucking flat earth thread ever. Dont even try to pretend you never heard this explained you dumb shill.

>>19017073
>I think you're missing the appeal of conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories are appealing, Flat Earth isn't. It's quite possibly the least airtight and least reasonable conspiracy theory feasible.
Even reptilian shit is internally consistent, and it has an opening- the public don't know because there are forces acting to prevent them from knowing.
Too many people have been at or near the south pole. No massive fleet of cockblocking ships in sight. Too many people have seen the ISS by eye. Too many people have and use GPS, satellite radio, go on plane flights that don't match flat-earth scheduling, where everyone in every related industry is paid off to lie to the public, the list goes on and on and on.
Reptilians? Fuck, you've just got to assume a few rich schools and exclusive hospitals are sold off. There are already real-world cults and societies to speculate about, and most politicians are sociopathic enough to look like lizards every once in awhile.
You go from "conspiracy" to "fantasy" in no time at all.

>>19017108
Shit infograph.
>gravity (weight) also acts on an object.
Buoyancy being a force of lift generated by displaced water attempting to fill the "gap" created by the new object, pushing in to create a more level plane. Water is always pushing down, due to gravity, and for many cases it simply pushes harder than foreign objects near the surface.
Buoyancy is an understanding of gravity, not a unique force.
>CS with a specialty in environmental simulation.
I guess flat-earth is fun to think about while unemployed.
>I've done a lot of computer flight simulations, and nothing I've done has showed me that our planet's geography is being reported to us accurately or even than the planet is a globe.
Present some.

>>19017219
>Expecting consistent standards or minimal research from Flat-Earthers
I sure hope you guys don't do this.

>>19017263
>you dumb shill.
>>19017249
>you fucking liar. kys

I love these "discussions"

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>>19017275
>Buoyancy being a force of lift generated by displaced water attempting to fill the "gap" created by the new object, pushing in to create a more level plane. Water is always pushing down, due to gravity, and for many cases it simply pushes harder than foreign objects near the surface.

Buoyancy has to do with atomic / molecular bonds and how dense / tightly compacted that matter is in one place. Gravity is an unnecessary "occult" force that presents no real value to anything.

>Present some.
Pay me for a custom job, I don't make a habit of open sourcing customer / employer code you retard fuck.

>>19017290
Repulsion between atoms is real and an element of buoyancy but the driving force of Gravity. Gravity is functional in all relevant equations, cases, and applications. That's the value it serves, besides having been at this point empirically observed. Occam's Razor says gravity makes more sense because it is the simplest answer in virtually all situations.

>Pay me for a custom job, I don't make a habit of open sourcing customer / employer code you retard fuck.
I have a master's in CS with a specialty in environmental simulation. I've run a series of simulations involving the intelligence averages of flat-earthers, and man, yours has got to be bottom of the barrel. I've got all the numbers right here.

>>19017290

You're full of shit. 100%. If you have made environmental simulations (that is to say, computer programs), write off some lines of your preferred language. Also of note to me is how you claim to have majored in physics and yet deny some of the most fundamental concepts behind physics.

t. Physics major

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>>19017201
>This doesn't make sense when you look at the budget for NASA, which is one of the SMALLEST government budget items, and has its funding cut very often. If you're trying to launder money, why keep making the "official" budget for the program smaller? Why not launder money through a MUCH larger program, like defense spending or social security or healthcare?

It actually makes a lot of sense if you know how government corruption works. As someone who has taken a "friend contract" from several governments, I know the process pretty well.

First of all lets just set the record strait, 18.5 billion is small compared to how much we dump in the US military, but it is a shit ton of money for fiscal year 2016

With that out of the way. The way government corruption works isn't that some "league of shadows" picks what department / program based on merit and then tries to suck up the money.

The way it works is you know the guy, or the guy's family or tight business associate who writes government bids / contracts. All government contracts must go up for a public bid.

i.e. https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/procurement/index.html

Now, what normally happens is the guy who is writing the bid has been in the business for fucking ever, and has worked with a lot of people in that field. People who go on to make shit that NASA / other government agencies would buy.

So, let's say that "Sr NASA guy" reaches out to "former NASA buddy" who now works at a chemical engineering company, just to ask him what the best space age materials are.

Naturally the guy who worked at NASA and now helps engineer the materials is 100% legit, not even joking or being sarcastic. I was legit as fuck when I took my contracts.

So "Sr NASA guy" and "former NASA buddy" now say

cont..

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>>19017304

"hey, yeah this is great stuff, but since you're playing with a portion of 18b dollars, how about I charge 50x what I would a private company, and kick you back a few mill? If we don't do it, someone else will. Besides if we don't spend all of NASA's budget this year, there will be internal budget cuts"

They're already mason frat buddies, done deal. Now, obviously what I'm suggesting is a little more extreme, but NOT BY MUCH

Let me remind you of the F-35 that doesn't fucking work and cost 400B!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/17/military-admits-billion-dollar-war-toy-f-35-is-f-ked

They made cheap crap and charged a shit ton for it. Maybe we did make it to the moon, maybe we did get shit in orbit at one point, but it's entirely possible we don't anymore.

>>19017285
>you are not allowed to call out bullshit/dishonesty
cool

Its funny and sad at the same time imagining a flattards telling his son/daughter that earth is flat.

Even their kids would know he's retarded.

If they have kids someday. Right(?

>>19009786
Top quality meme

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>>19017304
>18.5 billion is small compared to how much we dump in the US military, but it is a shit ton of money for fiscal year 2016
No it really isn't. Literally any other program would be easier and more lucrative.

>>19017310
>"hey, yeah this is great stuff, but since you're playing with a portion of 18b dollars, how about I charge 50x what I would a private company, and kick you back a few mill? If we don't do it, someone else will. Besides if we don't spend all of NASA's budget this year, there will be internal budget cuts"
So where does lying about the shape of the Earth come into play? This is just corruption. Why invent and maintain (which would cost a LOT of money) a lie just to embezzle money that you can do without the lie?

>Let me remind you of the F-35 that doesn't fucking work and cost 400B!!
Case in point. This cost 22 times the entire budget of NASA, and took no massive worldwide conspiracy.

You could make ten times what NASA gets paid in a year saying you're trying to get the trains to run on time, and everyone would accept the money just disappearing because fuck trains.

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>>19017299
please refute

Va * d * g = Vb * 1 * g

Where Va is the volume of the body falling though the atmosphere, d is the density of that object, g is gravity and Vb is the volume of the atmosphere.

As you can see, g cancels it's self out, because it's completely made up and useless.

>>19005500
You've never read any of the Discworld novels by Terry Pratchett, have you? Because that's literally a picture of that.

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>>19017326
>No it really isn't. Literally any other program would be easier and more lucrative.

Yes, it really is to a private citizen, you are a retard if you think a billion dollars isn't much money to a private contractor, end of story.

>So where does lying about the shape of the Earth come into play? This is just corruption

You didn't seem to know how government corruption worked, or maybe it was a previous poster?

I broke it down in to two parts

>So let's break down the why into two sections, first being why NASA would fake their stuff, second being why the governments of the world would want us to believe in a round earth.
>>19017168

So, two parts

1. Why it is profitable for private contractors involved with NASA to fake things i.e. have a non-working space shuttle and buy CGI to save face. Mean while pocking a few billion dollars.

2. Why would someone want to fake a globe earth or hide large portions of the earth from us.

That is here...

>>19017172

>>19017346
>As you can see, g cancels it's self out, because it's completely made up and useless
lmao, what a fucking moron

>>19017368
nothing? just name calling? can't even look up a proof or two?

please realize you are helping to contribute to the flat earth craze by just having a little meltdown instead of presenting a rebuttal.

>>19017373
I was just highlighting your post to show how silly it is to desribe gravity as made up or useless. Thats braindead. lmao, please dont float away brainlet. I'm not the guy you are """arguing with""" nor did I want a reply from you, obviously.
Holy fucking shit, get a load of this guy

>>19017108
The vector field created by a spherical mass with inverse square radial distribution is diferent from a field generated by a plane, disk or infinite plane. You can do the math with electric fields and see for yourself.

>>19017346
If you can cancel something out of 1 (one) equation, doesnt mean it is useless. Invalid argument. next

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>>19017379
I can't float away because I am more dense than the air around me : /

the "magic" force of gravity is not needed.

The only real argument is that gravity is in ANYWAY involved with a falling object is at the atomic level.

I won't float up for the same reason why the clouds won't fall down...

are you trying to act like a retard to convert people to flat earth?

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>>19017383
Sorry, you didn't prove gravity. No one has you dumb ass. It's still controversial in the scientific community, it's why people try to come up with theories like dark matter.

https://www.newscientist.com/round-up/seven-things-that-dont-make-sense-about-gravity/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4047500/Was-Einstein-WRONG-gravity-Controversial-new-theory-rewrite-physics-passes-test.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/science/13gravity.html

http://nautil.us/issue/29/scaling/will-quantum-mechanics-swallow-relativity

You really need to get out of your high school echo chambers and study a little.

You'd learn something.

>>19017394
>because I am more dense
yes you are :^)

>the "magic" force of gravity is not needed
It isnt magic, you just dont understand it. And yes it is needed, because simply being more dense than your surroundings doesnt desribe any force. What "pulls" you down? It isnt density, because density is simply the ratio between volume and mass.
So where does the force come from and why is it always directed "downwards"? Why do things dont fly up when something denser is above them? Why do things fall in a vaccum? You dont make sense anon. I bet you dont even get why "le density" is a complete brainfart and doesnt even begin to explain anything.

>>19017405
>argument from ignorance
kindly stop posting, brainlet.

pro tip: drop a pen - boom, there is your proof for gravity you fucking retard

>>19017409
>It isnt magic, you just dont understand it.

no one understands it, it is still a point of controversy in mainstream science.

You are just really stupid or illiterate.

>>19017431
Speak for yourself you retard. We are talking about basic mechanics here and not what particles are carrying the force or how does it behave on a cosmic scale you intellectually dishonest fuckface. There is nothing magically about things falling down. Read some Newton if modern science is too hard for you. lmao

>>19017431
>There are gaps in this theory, therefor the earth must be flat
fallacy - invalid argument. next

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>>19017440
gravity isn't needed in any basic mechanics, please give one applied mechanics equation where gravity is a crucial part of the calculation.

pro tip,

you can't

;D ;D ;D

>>19017450
literally everything where mass plays a role you moron.

>>19017443
>There are gaps in this theory, therefor the earth must be flat
>pretending someone said something stupid so I can dismiss it

nice one there bro ;D clearly a well thought out argument

>>19017458
name one

give one example that proves gravity exist

>>19017459
So you arent arguing that gravity doesnt exist because there are some minor things about it science has yet to explain? hmmm, ok whats your point then?

>>19006027
>>Oh what? The government is secretly experimenting on people again, in program MKULTRA II: Electric Boogaloo? Ohhhhh, right of course /x/ "found" out about it. You know they believe the world is flat. Laughing_girls.jpg
I have no idea what this means. I mean, I know about MK-Ultra and even did some "research" into it (with about as much information as the internet and public libraries can give you on it, anyway) but I don't know if this is ironic or not or what.

>>19017463
Anon, please calculate how fast my turd will get if I shit out of a helicopter at 3km altitude.

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>>19017469
Arguing it's a un-needed theory to explain some phenomenon.

Gravity is a poor explanation for most of the phenomenon that people try to use it to explain i.e. universal expansion.

Which has given rise to theories like "dark matter" to make the theory of gravity work.

The more dense something is, the heavier it is, it doesn't require a magic force pulling on it to give it "weight"

Maybe you are going to start telling me gravity is like gender? And it's based on how you feel?

>>19017450
Coulumbs law, which directly applies to electrical charges, is also exactly the same formula as the gravitational force formula, where you find out how hard two things are pulling against each other.
In any ballistics formulae, you must account for the gravitational pull downwards. These functions might be used for any sort of: stunt jump setup, missile guidance systems(the missile knows where it is at all times), flight trajectory, etc.
Einstein's theory of general relativity, which was proven due to gravitational lensing, an effect gravity has on light even.

To say "name an equation with gravity in it" is rather like asking "name a restaurant dish that uses onion". You could say "well shit, there's like, steal n onion" but then you might say "I've never made or had made for me steak with onion ever. Not valid."
You could be 100% right about that steak thing, you fucking ingrate, put some onion on your steak when you cook it once, it's delicious, but that wouldn't make your point valid.

Tl;Dr: gravity is an ingredient in an equation salad, it's only present if you need it.

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>>19017499
>where you find out how hard two things are pulling against each other.
this is resistance, not gravity.

>ballistics formulae, you must account for the gravitational pull downwards

This is simply the same formula for finding how fast a object sinks in our atmosphere. It varies at different altitudes as the atmosphere is thicker as you get closer to the earth.

>"name an equation with gravity in it" is rather like asking "name a restaurant dish that uses onion"

Onion soup? Onion rings? Fuck man, its easy.

Asking for a formula where gravity is required should be as easy as copying and pasting a formal, but you still haven't done that.

>>19008744
Why would it be colder towards the center? Air currents would be so fucked

>>19017528
maybe we live on some sort of Taurus

>>19017450
Body mass index.
So the BMI process itself is a little dumbed down, but the basic just is you're trying to find how dense you are to calculate a rough guess at the fat content of your body.... It's a function of weight versus volume, if you're wondering.
Mind you, what has that got to do with gravity?
Well, we wouldn't have "weight" at all without gravity, because when an object gets denser it gets directly heavier. I'm basically talking shoving more matter into a small place than was in it before.
Think, I've got air in a box, there's some air in there. Same box, replace the air with a lead block same size as inside the box. Much harder to carry.
That's because there's more little-ass pieces of lead clumped in that space than the air had fit. The air had waaaaaaay less little-air-pieces.
Gravity is a function of mass. When more mass congregates, gravity pulls harder. in every direction.
BMI figured out your density by taking your weight, a measuring of how hard the Earth's gigantic mass pulls on little you, and backtracking using your volume to find out exactly how many matter pieces should be inside you. Equations are like little puzzles, you have everything but one piece and you just gotta jumble it right to get the answer.

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>>19017553
>Well, we wouldn't have "weight" at all without gravity
This is bull shit and the core failure in all your "attempted" arguments.

Weight is just the measure of density.

You are trying to apply a un-needed force that exist out side the matter its self to explain why a dense object is heavier than a less dense object.

Why do we need to have a magic force to tell us if there are more atoms in one are, they will be heavier?

pro tip;
you don't

>>19017521
Ballistics work the same way without atmosphere.

>>19017560
Weight is a force you retard

>>19017521
Bernoulli's principle, for buoyancy. It's about density. Density is a function of gravity. Learn what "sinking" actually is.

Granted I did not take the time whilst I sit here shitting to search for a godamned formula on Wikipedia. That's your fucking job as a researcher, not mine to fucking spoon-feed it to you.

I said,
Coulumbs law(you'll have to dig a little bit to find the gravity function)
Bernoulli's principle
Fucking, google "density".

And why the fuck are you here if you want equations?

>>>Sci

No wonder you believe the earth is flat. You just hear something you like and agree with it, I bet you've never done an hour of research yourself.

>>19017568
weight is the measurement of density, not a magic force field

>>19017572
density is a measure of density. Weight is a measure of force. Why do you think your weight increases when you accelerate?

>>19017571
>And why the fuck are you here if you want equations?
I've provided equations and proofs, if you want to disprove them then go ahead.

If not fuck off

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>>19017573
objects require more force to go faster, they don't magically get heavier

this is never used in any applied engineering

up to and including our fastest jets and rockets

I have a question for everyone who honestly believes in a flat earth.

>>19014369
it's literally been proven that the government is lying to use and that we are all being monitored and controlled though

>>19017481
>The more dense something is, the heavier it is
Thats simply not true. Thats pretty much the kilo of feathers vs kilo of stone "problem. There is also the thing that weight is defined with gravity.
>it doesn't require a magic force pulling on it to give it "weight"
but it does. And you fail to give an alternative. Call it what you want, but there is definitively some force acting upon things with mass

>>19017577
Weight is a force, why can't you understand?? You never made a force diagram in your life? You to accelerate something with mass you need a force! Or an accelerating mass is under the influence of a force. For some reason, mass makes other mass accelerates, and excerts forces to make it so. You seem to be confusing weight with mass. They are diferent things entirely.
>applied engineering
There is a "Non-applied engineering"? What's that?

>>19017521
>It varies at different altitudes as the atmosphere is thicker as you get closer to the earth
why is this if there is no gravity? Why are things still fall down when there is sometimes actually denser air up higher due to weather?

I wont try to convince you it's flat, but I will ask you to approach the idea of it being round with the same skepticism. Don't believe anything just because someone told you. Infact don't believe anything. The universe probably isn't real anyway. But don't believe that just because I told you.

>>19017346

Your equation is utter nonsense, first of all. Volume times density times gravity equals Atmospheric volume times 1 times gravity? I'm hoping this was some kind of trick question, anon, because that was quite literally the stupidest fucking thing I have seen today--and I've seen that Kyle Sison Weathers (or whatever the fuck his tripfag shit is) post a few times today. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you prove that "G" (gravity) cancels itself out, and I am calling into question any validity you might have.

Also
>g cancels it's self out
>it's self

Seriously? And you're supposedly educated? It's no wonder you buy into the flat earth conspiracy--you're mentally retarded.

>>19017572
>weight is the measurement of density
Please define "density", anon. I am pretty sure we arent on the same page with that term, because your statements are gibberish with the classic definition in mind

>>19017572
>weight is measured in newtons
>a unit of force
>density is measured in mass/volume
>a unit of density
mind=blown

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>>19017583
>Thats pretty much the kilo of feathers vs kilo of stone "problem. There is also the thing that weight is defined with gravity.

Nope, feathers are atomically just not as dense as a stone. Go take a chemistry class and learn your periodic tables ;D

>but it does. And you fail to give an alternative
No alternative is needed. I don't need to factor gravity into any equation to make it work.

They only way you can "force" gravity in the equation is by claiming that weight wouldn't exist without gravity.

It's like saying matter wouldn't exist without God.

I don't need to know about your magic force field to see how heavy something is any more than you need God to see that the matter in front of you exist.

It's a complete non sequitur

>>19017574
You read my whole-

Oh. You didn't read my post. You just read what you wanted to read. You're really good at that. Good enough to do the same shit with this flat-earth.

And it's not like I don't know I've been chewing on bait. it's soothing, and I like the taste.

>>19017597
how much matter ( i.e. atoms / protons / neutrons ) occupy a given space

>>19017600
what the fuck did I just read

>>19017600
>Nope, feathers are atomically just not as dense as a stone
Yeah, anon, but if you take a kg of both they weigh the same. Your statement "The more dense something is, the heavier it is" is complete bullshit. If I squish a sponge it wont get heavier.

>No alternative is needed
Yeah, I am talking to a wall. Farewell

>>19017598

OKAYOKAYOKAYOKAY. okay. Guys.

Weight, proper weight, is measured in units of force, Newtons.
This is a measurement of how hard the earth is pulling you down towards it. The earth pulls harder on dense objects, making them feel heavier because the earth is pulling harder on them. That's gravity.

You can collect enough feathers to weigh the same as an iron ton, but you would have a LOT of fucking feathers.

Before this retardation goes any further; there are more forces at work than just gravity. Gases behave in different ways than solid or liquid material. Density plays a role, you are correct about that as well. But you aren't actually educated if you don't realize that density is only a factor to a point; consider this thought-provoking experiment you can carry out, at home, with simple objects. Take, say, a pill bottle and a bowling ball. Drop them from the same height at the same time, and you'll find that they will hit the ground at the same time. Now obviously, the bowling ball is far denser and much heavier and yet, it does not fall faster.

This is why you are fucking retarded. I would implore you to not breed.

>>19017615
>The earth pulls harder on dense objects
Not necessarily. It depends on the mass.

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>>19017615
>>19017618
>>19017619
>>19017601
>>19017594
I think we can basically sum up you faggots with this pic

peace out, was funny watching you loose your shit in the realization you know nothing

>>19017634

Translation: I got called out on my dumbfuckery and in an attempt to preserve my fragile ego I must leave and reassure myself that YOU are the ones who don't know anything.

Like I said in this post: >>19017618

Don't breed.

>>19017634
>2017
>being a brazilian
>AND
>a flatearther
Shit nigger, voce vive no rio para variar?

>>19017363
>Yes, it really is to a private citizen, you are a retard if you think a billion dollars isn't much money to a private contractor, end of story.
You are being obtuse either deliberately or because of ineptitude. The comparison is not between a billion dollars and the salary of the average citizen. The comparison is 18 billion dollars for potential embezzling versus 400-4000 billion dollars for potential embezzling.

>You didn't seem to know how government corruption worked
It's a complete red herring. It doesn't matter for the question of why fake the shape of the earth. This corruption works either way.

>That is here...
And was responded to here
>>19017201

>>19017634
Loose? It's lose, loser

>>19017016
>the ISS isn't visible with telescopes

But I've seen it myself with a naked eye. Who am I supposed to believe? My own eyes? Or a youtube video that actually has clips of the ISS in orbit, even though that doesn't contradict what I've seen with my own eyes?

>Why would a NASA shill be posting Eric Dubay / Satellite debunking videos?

Well to play devil's advocate... Eric Dubay and Satellite "debunking" vids are pretty retarded and make FEers look even stupider.

>I've got a degree in physics

Doubtful

>please refute
>Va * d * g = Vb * 1 * g

Case in point.

>>19017469
He's saying gravity doesn't exist because if it does, then the earth can't be flat. It's a post hoc assertion.

>>19017615
>the earth pulls harder on denser objects

Which weighs more? An ounce of gold or a ton of feathers?

>>19017618
To clarify your bowling ball claim just in case anybody was confused..

Gravity pulls more on the bowling ball (because it is more massive, not because it is more dense), than it does on the pill bottle.

The reason they both fall at the same rate is because the bowling ball, having more mass, takes more force to accelerate than the pill bottle.

>>19017811
is kinda sad to know that your probably explaining basic physics to a bunch of adult high school graduates

>>19017835
Meh, refreshers never hurt. Even A students can atrophy if they never use it for many years.

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The anti-flat earth people are fucking hilarious.

You have flat earthers posting fluid dynamics equations and trying to make a reasonable argument

The anti-flatters are just RRRREEEEEEE I WATCHED THE COSMOS AND BLACK SCIENCE MAN WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME!!!!

I think flat eart ideas are pretty funny, but the h8 they get makes me want to side with them

>>19018568
>fluid dynamics equations

Where was this?

>>19005499
where in the heck is this from?

I'll bite - I study surveying, and one of the fundamental things we learn is how to account for the earth's curvature. When measuring distances and angles, these are multiplied by a scale factor to transfer this reading to a geodetic reading (as in, taking a flat distance and adjusting it slightly to curve it along the earth).

All of our construction is based around this concept. I'm still new to this, but when all of our infrastructure / maps / engineering is built with this in mind, it would be absolute chaos if we built these things to a slight curve yet the earth was flat the whole time.

>>19005492
Take a trip on a airplane.

>>19014369
>When I was ten years old, I used to think the world was a simulation, the government is lying to us, and we are all being monitored and controlled by some sort of higher species. I would have nightmares that they found out I knew and were coming to extract me and I would be forced to recognize what was the "real world"
That all really happens though.

>>19020792
Yeah, I wish I was ten years old again too.

>>19017346
>Va * d * g = Vb * 1 * g
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA, good job brainlet

>>19018568
>fluid dynamics equations
nope. where?
>reasonable argument
nope, never ever did a flattie do this. where?

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>>19005492

/Thread

>>19020778
I did, more than once. And i saw the curvature

>>19021237
I did too. I also live in San Diego and watch the ships disappear over the horizon bottom to top, then confirm the order of disappearance again when I use a telescope and watch it disappear over the horizon bottom to top again.

A flat earth would not have the ships disappear from bottom to top but just fade away.

I don't know who's arguing for or against flat earth in here holy shit you guys are so logically incoherent. I seriously don't know who to laugh at what the fuck

>>19021341
>I don't know who's arguing for or against flat earth in here
Poe's law ensnares yet another hapless bystander.

>>19021237
Obviously all the windows installed on every plane ever are slightly fisheyed to give it that effect you fucking sheep.

>>19008744
Holy fuck you're retarded. I have a parent who works at NASA research lab. I've been in the wind tunnels during testing. I got to see the shuttle launch as a kid. I interned there for 3 summers in college. Nothing NASA does is fake. Kill yourself.

>>19021383
So you told me to get on a airplane for nothing?????
:((((()))):
Give me my money back.

if the earth is flat, how thick is it?

>>19021209
Brilliant

Question for Flat Earthers = If all the water on the edge of the world is falling off, why haven't we run out of water yet?

Clouds are made of evaporated water, going up and thne falling down as rain.

But that water over the edge? Gone forever.

Explain that shit.

The ice wall...

>>19022029

I'm pretty sure flat earthers suggest that antarctica wraps around the entire boarder.

>>19021502
11 and a half

>>19022062
But what about the precipitation? The ice walls aren't going to stop clouds.

Also, why don't the glaciers fall off? Glaciers flow downhill, not unlike slow moving liquids.

>>19022921
Low barometric pressure doesn't allows the storms to rise over the ice wall, like it happens with large mountain chains like the Himalayas or the Andes.

>>19022928
But the "ice wall" pictures the Flat Earthers frequently post often have clouds over them.

>>19016992
at least pol isn't filled with a bunch of schizos who worship aleister crowley. fuck off x

>>19022979
Ive heard it was an ice dome. But that comes with all sorts of problems of it's own.

>>19017394
What determines what floats up or goes down in that picture?

>>19023049
No, they're filled with a bunch of schizos that suck Trump's cock.

>>19017405
>Gravity is controversial.
lol no. Even the classical tests of general relativity show how well understood gravity is. Dark matter is an interesting one, but that's more of an extension to particle theory than an issue with GR (cf. the success of lambda-CDM).

>>19017053
Have any of you actually read those verses?

They very much don't say the earth is flat, or that other shit

>>19017043
>no one makes a dime off the flat earth meme
I'm pretty sure Eric Dubay and some other prominent FE youtubers make a few bucks off their videos.

>>19017357
I think that was actually refference to colour of magic.

>>19023049
head on back now son, looks like trump hasn't had his balls sucked for a full 15 seconds over there

>>19017405
you are fucking retarded

>>19017811

This is absolutely true but meaningless to the layman. I was trying to instill in our ill-equipped friend an idea of what gravity really is and proof that it exists; were his belief that it were solely weight which kept us grounded true, heavier objects would fall to the ground with greater speed.

>>19005492
From a strictly physical standpoint, the creation of a flat, disc-shaped object in space would require such incredibly specific set of conditions. Conversely, it could be done with intervention.

But other than that, there is no way a "flat" earth could possibly form in the realm of natural science.

>>19024015
>>19017811
I admire what you two are trying to do, but you are unequivocally wasting your time.

Understanding how gravity works is something even decent students have trouble with after a year of physics. Explaining it to a flat Earther with half a high school education and a pre-formed opinion is just about the least useful thing you can do with your time.

>>19024029

True, but others following the discussion might learn from the 'knowledgebombs' we are dropping here.

Hell, we may even get some inspired enough to study physics. Lord knows we could use some fresh brains. It's tough though and I have seen some very intelligent fellow classmen drop it in favor of another field. I'll be going into astrophysics myself... The universe is infinitely fascinating.

>>19016081
>Have you ever balanced an egg upside-down? Go ahead, try it right now. It won't work. However, wait until the fall or spring solstice and then try it. It will work, fairly easily.

You're wrong. Remember to try this at fall equinox. Look it up, dumbass

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Earth is like this, prove me wrong

>>19024097
i can't.. must be real

>>19024022
To play devil's advocate that's circular reasoning.
Their flat earth theory obviously implies that conventional science is incorrect. Which is a hell of a claim but it makes your analysis pointless.

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>>19017180
>>19017184
>>19017187
Yes, this image was debunked long ago, the one with the larger North America was taken from a lower altitude, thus it appears larger.

You may have you (clearly wrong) opinion of the earth being round, but when the mighty elephants shift and judgement day comes, only we who follow Vishnu shall be spared his wrath. We shall ride the great turtle while the rest of you unenlightened imbeciles perish

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>>19017016
There's a website that tracks the ISS and other satellites. By entering your location you can check the next time it will pass overhead, and if conditions are right possibly see it.

http://www.n2yo.com/