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Guys, I really want to advance in my spiritual endeavors but

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Guys, I really want to advance in my spiritual endeavors but I feel like my addiction to pornography is sapping any step I make towards the right direction. The strange thing is that I've noticed there are certain periods where I really wanna fap- either just when I wake up (usually after a dream for some reason) and late at night. This is when I really get an urge to wank it. If I manage to hold the urge however, I've noticed that the feeling of wanting to fap pretty much stops immediately. But anyway do any alchemists of mental kinds have any advice on what I can do about this? I'm thinking of trying to put Daoist perspective, as well as perspectives of martial artists like Bruce Lee in practice.
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>>19004820
>towards the right direction

What's a right direction? You posted the wrong path in the OP already.

I mean, who told you that guy was a god of yous?
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>>19004823
Perhaps you're right, my friend. Maybe I've been to careless to follow anything that looks spiritual. But regardless, do you have any experience with what I'm saying in the OP? Anything you can add on?
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>>19004828

First you have to make sure of who your god is, don't you think?
Your god will help you whereas a stranger may only fool you and then amuse himself with you.
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>>19004828
if you are dedicated to the path i offer this
start a meditation practice every day early morning and before bed, read scriptures, atleast 30 minutes a day meditate of them if you find the passages profound, repeat a mantra, i suggest "rama, rama", or "om" or "sohum" or you can use somthing more conginial "jesus, jesus" or "hail mary" repeat this through out the day silently in your head as much as possible when walking, when doing the dishses keep it in your mind at all times, now once your mantra gets deep when you feel these sexual urges you can use them to your advantage to repeat your mantra which will only strenghten it,
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When i turned to God, my sexual desires dissapeared. I think there was a Succubus on me that fled, or something. I realise turning to Christianity is not what you probably want, but it works and thats what you are looking for.
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"The human body is naturally hardwired with some desires, eating as the desire for food for example. The conscious mind can...recondition the organism's behavior. Think of it like eliminating an addiction. If you were a smoker and wanted to quit, you'd have two challenges. First, you'd need to overcome the chemical desire for nicotine. Second, you'd need to eliminate smoking from your set of physical behaviors... perhaps you've heard someone say "But, I'm more social when I'm smoking". Sexual activity has a twofold component, too. First, there's the circumstances you have associated with the behavior. Example: Many people use sexual activity for recreation or relaxation. When such a person finds themselves without any immediate activity, they spend the idle time chasing an orgasm. Second, there's the chemical association with sexual activity. The neurological effects of orgasm are not well understood by this society, but it's basically the ultimate conditioning tool for the human.....
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>>19004982
...organism. You can tell because the overwhelming majority of human society is organized around the distribution of sexual activity.
Less abstractly, suppose you like to combine pornography and masturbation. So many do. The activity is self-reinforcing. Every time you have an orgasm while focusing on copulation, that act increases the likelihood that you will focus on copulation. Even though it might seem that the behavior can be walled-off from the rest of your life, it can't. Much like the heroin junkie thinks they're doing fine, but they're always either high or looking to score some smack, somewhere in your unconscious behavior you will be driven to seek opportunities to engage in that sort of sexual activity.
"Cerebelum exercises abbreviates onanism", so true! Quitting a bad behavior is a matter of Will over form. As a student, you have no doubt puled all-nighters to study for a test or write a paper. The body wanted sleep, but you wanted to accomplish something. The goal of accomplishment overrode the desire. By that same token, when you experience sexual desire, you can choose to wait-it-out. It's tough, not for everyone, but when you are in control of the base physical desires, you won't experience limitation in the same way you do while out of control. By either eliminating or displacing the mental association between sexual activity and recreation, you can gain a huge measure of creative thought. The forward proposition is that sexual activity creates a narrowing of possible behaviors by constraining your goals to the single act, always looking for sex. In reverse, the lack of sexual activity broadens your possible behaviors, as the goal is no longer singularly defined.
Humans have human thoughts, and those thoughts are constrained within very specific boundaries. The human further constrains their thoughts through desire-based behavioral conditioning. (...)
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>>19004985
That is, the human chooses to submit to base desires by choosing the things which feel good viscerally. Fortunately, submission to desire is not a requirement."
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>>19004987
Quoting Arousing Audio from youtube. I hope the information helps, anon!
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>>19004885

>repeat this mantra! :D

So it rapes your subconscious mind and leaves you half stupid.

The faggots that tell you to do this have good care not to do it.
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>posting a heathen """""god"""""
Abandon the darkness and foolishness of heathenry and recognize Jesus as your lord and saviour and recognize human birthright as image of God.
Recognize everything that is written in Nicene creed.
This is the true path, rest are deception of our eternal advetsary.
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>>19005036
You're a fucking retard and a subhuman.

"Hurr durr my new age sand nigger religion is the only correct religion and beats out the hundreds that predate it because my daddy told me so."

I wish Hitler would've gone after Christians. We'd have a better world.
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>>19005036
all paths lead to God (eventually)
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>>19005036
>This is the true path

No, it isn't, prove it doing the miracles you're supposed to be doing.
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>>19005054
you forgot to tip your fedora, m8

>>19005085
"""miracles""" are for those who seek satan and deception
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>>19005097
>"""miracles""" are for those who seek satan

Actually miracles can only be done if you have a powerful God behind you, so your excuse that miracles are a thing for satans, outs you as a deceiver.
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>>19005100
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
matthew 24:24
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>>19005105
>My book has a thousand excuses for me to pick up and throw at you

I also have many books in my library, each one has the most outlandish claim, but I only pick from them what I have tested to be true, you should do the same, fag.
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>>19005100
Humans are Images of God and bear likeness to Him, therefore they dont need anyone to perform those miracles. Only need to learn it. And if it shall be thought by Satan, it will go downhill, very fast.
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>>19005114

See
>>19005110
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>>19005110
It's true and withstood test of time
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>>19004985
not op but thank you
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>>19005118

No it doesn't withstand any test.

First test is asking if jesus fullfilled all his prophecies, and he failed to come back before all his disciples died, go ahead and prepare an excuse for this one like you all do, for you are sons of YHVH the liar and deceiver, and you will die according to how your father lies.

Moreover it is said of you that you will do miracles, but yeah, father of lies, sons of deceit.
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/r/NoFap should help (Reddit)
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>>19005126
>First test is asking if jesus fullfilled all his prophecies, and he failed to come back before all his disciples died, go ahead and prepare an excuse for this one like you all do, for you are sons of YHVH the liar and deceiver, and you will die according to how your father lies.
yes he did
and no one knows when he shall come back. it is not written
and time is a human concept btw

>Moreover it is said of you that you will do miracles, but yeah, father of lies, sons of deceit.
>>19005114
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>>19005130
>yes he did

That must be the reason why the world already ended and we are in paradise, faggot.
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>>19005114
>therefore they dont need anyone to perform those miracles

Yes we do, as anyone can pull bullshit out of his ass and claim it's the word of a god.
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>>19005132
no one knows when will it happen.
Jesus came to repent sin of Adam and offer mankind salvation and theosis, not to take everyone to paradise
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>>19005136
>no one knows when will it happen

Yet, in the bible it is said, that altough the day isn't known, it will happen before all the disciples are dead.
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>>19004975

Not OP, but been a Christian most of my life (leaning toward Christian gnosticism now). Never stopped the urge to fap. No amount of reading scripture, praying, going to church, or even group therapy could stop it. If it was that easy for you to stop I think you may just naturally have a low libido. I've been trying to quit for at least 16 years and I can't find anything that works. Thought about castration but it's almost impossible to find a doctor willing to do it. FMLTBQH senpai.
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>>19005138
Christians are also disciples of Christ
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>>19005140

>I follow a god that's making me crazy for making me desire to fap and at the same time make me ashamed ot it

So how's that masochism going on for ya?
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>>19005145
>dont resist carnal urges

So how's that degeneracy going on for ya?
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>>19005142

Of course anon, of course, and generations never end, even tough he referred to that past generation that no longer is with us, and no need to do miracles even tough it is explicitly stated that you will be able to do them.

I mean, why care for the truth when we can lie like Jesus and his father?
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>>19005036
>He still doesn't understand each religion is a distortion of the one truth
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>>19005149

What degeneracy? I'm working as intended, when I feel like touching my dick I touch it, I haven't degenerated a little bit, as I follow my intended desing of touching my dick when it calls, you on the other hand seem to be a degenerate that steps out of his nature to make others and himself feel bad, that's what degeneration is actually.
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Crank the life out of that shriveled thing because no God exists that gives 2 shits.
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>>19005151
member of synagogue of satan spotted
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>>19005155

But I don't even give two shits about satan.

Just because your religion is wrong and a bunch of lies and people can easily laugh at you for that matter doesn't mean satan is hostigating you through every person.

If your pencil falls and a faggot touches your butt was it satan also?

A bird shits in your head equals satan?
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>>19005161
correction:
simpleminded heathen member of synagogue of satan spotted
You dont give a shit about him but he gives (and does on) on you
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>>19005162

>I can't prove my religion to be true but let me insult you like a true christian would

Uh-huh
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>>19005162

So, what's a christian doing in the witchcraft board and on 4chan of all places? Let me guess, you are a nazi too and come from /pol/?
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>>19005164
I dont need to prove anything, you need to see it
>>19005166
/x/ is Christian board now
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>>19005164
>>19005162
>>19005161
You girls done arguing?
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>>19005170

Yes, you need to prove it, also you are not even to mix with us pagans or nonbelievers in your religion, you are supposed to be avoiding our dark crafts and beliefs.

According to your book if you don't we slap your shit and your god abandons you at our amusement.
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Nothing is real. Everything is an illusion. It's a big universe; for you.
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>>19005175
I dont need to prove anything, you need to see it. If you are blind, thats your problem

>your god
there is one God, not "your" or "mine" and at the end, anyone shall receive what he deserves
Fire and brimstone is prepared for you and your kind
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>>19005182
>Fire and brimstone is prepared for you and your kind

Sure thing family, got any proof?

Because I'm positive I've chosen my religion after experience and evidence (not to mention divine calling) unlike you, so your threat is laughable at best.
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>>19005175
>your god abandons you at our amusement.
no, we will become divines and you will rot in oblivion
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>>19005189

Shit talking is not permitted in your religion, you may shittalk your god but not the rest of people, so it is written in your book of lies.
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>>19005188
>Because I'm positive I've chosen my religion after experience and evidence
You are blind, so what you see is a lie
>divine calling
voice of Lucifer
>so your threat is laughable at best.
Its not a threat, Its just your future
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>>19005197

No, I see just fine.

>voice of lucifer

That's curious, because I don't follow lucifer, but other.

>it's not a threat

Of course anon, of course, I forgot that your kind has a problem with recognizing reality.
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>>19005192
I do as I desire and I shall pay my price for it and I acknowledge it
>book of lies
Your lord satan is embodiment of lies
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>>19005203

But I don't follow satan.

Why do you assume that your book doesn't lie even tough it is written by jews?
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>>19005201
>That's curious, because I don't follow lucifer, but other.
you do, by other name
>Of course anon, of course, I forgot that your kind has a problem with recognizing reality.
blind saying anything about recognizing reality
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>>19005206
>But I don't follow satan.
you do, by other name
>Why do you assume that your book doesn't lie even tough it is written by jews?
Old Jews were chosen, but now Christians are
Modern Jews are kikes
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>>19005207

>You're blind because you don't blindly follow a shitty desert book for dumbasses and instead use common sense, reason and follow the guidance of an actually caring God.

Keking here
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>>19005208
>by other name

Satan is satan, he isn't schizophrenic as far as I know, so he has only one name.

Your problem is that you live in a delusion, I'm very certain my God has nothing to do with, and even oposes Satan.
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>>19005209
I dont "follow", I see
again, dont be blind
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>>19005208

In fact you deceived ones are mentioned in my religion as followers of the dark power of YHVH, you see, because my religion is true unlike yours, which leads to deception for being unable to use your common sense falling in a snare of books and blind dogma.
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>>19005212
"satan" means enemy and is a title and character, not a name
>my God
there is one God
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>>19005217
what religion do you follow?
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>>19005218

There are several and there is one above all (mine).

The false gods have blind faith as a weapon and mistreat their followers.

You know, your deceit that you fell into.

The one of the blind dogma and blindness towards reason.
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>>19005221

I don't hand out sacred things to vermin.
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>>19005222
>There are several and there is one above all (mine).
there is one God
>The false gods have blind faith as a weapon and mistreat their followers.
your god is false and is satan
>You know, your deceit that you fell into.
you are living in lies, son of Belial
>The one of the blind dogma and blindness towards reason.
you are bound to lies
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>>19005212

Maybe Lucifer, you dumb fuck?

What does schizophrenia have to do with multiple names? Are you just making mental illness word salad?
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>>19005226
So a Gnosticist
How sweet, son of Belial
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>>19005229

If your religion were true, you'd be able to do miracles as per your book, yet you are so deluded into the lies of YHVH that you even don't want to aknowledge the powerlessness and instead lie and attack everyone who isn't of your same opinion.
>>19005231
>Maybe Lucifer

That name isn't even a thing, it's just a bad translation, try Samael.
>>19005232

That's an altogether different entity, retard.
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What in the fuck is even going on in this thread?
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>>19005238

Christians being ignorant as usual.
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>>19005233
>If your religion were true
Its true
>you'd be able to do miracles as per your book
miracle seeking is for seekers of satan
>yet you are so deluded into the lies of YHVH that you even don't want to aknowledge the powerlessness and instead lie and attack everyone who isn't of your same opinion.
You live in lies and deceprion

You have eyes but cannot see
You see shadow where light should be
Then out of darkness, out of mind,
You shall be Cast down to Halls of the Blind.

>That's an altogether different entity, retard.
actual retards are sons of Belial

Ok, nice chatting with you, damned one.
Bye
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>>19005243
I mean he's retarded for his retarded opinions but you're retarded for encouraging him. And I'm retarded for even saying shit. Congratulations, anons. You made me retarded. I hope you're both happy.
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>>19005233

>jewboy confirmed
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>>19005248
>Its true

No, it isn't.

>miracle seeking

No such term in your book.

>blah blah you see but are blind and

No, you are blind as you don't add reason to the equation of living, only blind faith, you are castrated of your own mind.
>>19005250

This is very entertaining for me
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>>19005248
You do suck at shitposting, but I admire you because you played diablo and know the lore
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>>19005250
His very first post was an obvious bait meant for some low IQ-s, like this kike here, to ruin the thread.
...And he did succeeded.
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>>19005097
I'll tip your fuckin lid m8
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>>19005272
>I was baiting
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>>19005170
/x/ is a refuge for Christians because you mindless faggots can't get along anywhere else on this website. But you're hated here as well. Take your flat-earth new age sand nigger religion and toss yourself off a fucking cliff.
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>>19005197
>your visions of fake bullshit aren't real
>my visions of fake bullshit are infallible
God I hope you hear me. I'm praying for this faggot to get smacked the fuck up in the upcoming week. Thank you. Amen.
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so like honestly is it worth it to do noporn

like honestly ive done it for weeks and i dont feel any "spiritual" effects


should i stop anyway

like can somebody give me a legitimate reason to stop from any perspective whether its theistic or scientific etc
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>>19005140
Have you considered lowering your fucking libido?
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>>19005583

thats impossible
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>>19004820
Get laid. It will stop this madness.
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>>19005665

if getting laid was easy for everybody, there would be no such thing as porn addiction
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>>19004998
>proof:NULL
so did you test it on yourself, anon?
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>>19005665
I'm pretty sure the only difference would be the medium
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>>19004820
as long as your dick isn't in pain ur fine
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>>19004820
I can't believe no one has recommended this to you OP. What you seek is inside this book.
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>>19008370
Thanks. I'll try to find a pdf. Looks promising
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>>19004820
become the fap lord
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>>19004820
>there are certain periods where I really wanna fap- either just when I wake up (usually after a dream for some reason) and late at night
You do this out of habit. You started this habit because it was convenient for you to fap in the morning and night. You far discreetly religiously because you have unfulfilled sexual desires which needed alternatives. You found this alternative to produce more dopamine while doing less work for it.

Does this make sense?
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>>19008925
Now it makes too much sense.
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Op ive been jerking it through the whole process, and it hasnt really stopped my progress.

Btw the real and true path is mastering yourself. Underatand, love and accept the darkest parts of your soul. Sounds like you gotta do the first step though.. mastering your thoughts. Meditate and acknowledge your brains chatter until you can let it flow like water.
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