/space/ general

go to /sci/

>space thread

Space doesn't exist, sorry but I'm not into ballfagging

>>>/sci/

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>>18924118
>/space/ general
I like those, but here on /x/ it will most likely just escalate in a flat earth ""troll"" circlejerk again. Could be great on /hr/, /wg/ or /sci/ though

i want balltards to leave

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>>18924314
From the EPIC satellite https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

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>>18925225
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/nasa-captures-epic-earth-image

>>18924280
I second this notion

>>18924314
Post what you must, we have this because we like the pictures.

https://youtu.be/3JgfTAbrTNQ

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Oh, btw, after decades of greatness the Cassini probe is currently on its last orbits before starting its finale descend into Saturn's upper atmosphere to basically become a shooting star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrGAQCq9BMU

sleep tight prober

>>18926464

Here is a great compilation of some of cassini's nicest recordings. Really shows how fucking creepy yet beautiful the saturn system is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLQkG64IKU

And then there was cassinis little buddy Huygens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L471ct7YDo

what a nice mission. sleep tight prober

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Here is the famous mars-face.
Thats all frome me for now. Just wanted to ballance out the autism and pathetic trolling attempts with on topic contributions for a change

>>18924118
>the picture
Imagine shitposting from that thing, that must be amazing

>>18925225
ebic fail

>>18925242
point?

>>18926441
lol what

>>18926796
>internet worse than Australia
>but with 100 times the shitposting power

>>18928019

The thumbnail looks like a spiraling tunnel in space.

>>18926829
it is an artist interpretation of what it would look like if saturn would just fall down into the sun and nearly miss earth. All the shooting stars are parts of the ring system entering our atmosphere.
Just imagine being a on moon of it and seeing this eerie ass giant of a planet all the time

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I thought there were more astroboys here, but maybe we should focus more on the creepy aspects of /space/.
Look at pic related. This exists out there.

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>>18925225
>>18925229
>>18925242

>>18926803
second that
>>18928353
o rly? how you know?

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Sometimes when my ego gets too big I like to think about all the things out there that just happen and how everything I love is just a happy accident.

>>18928390
>how you know?
Well, nobody really knows. Black holes are mysterious and very hypothetical. But there definitely is something out there that affects its suroundings like something with the force of billions of suns without radiating very much. I like to call it "black hole" without pretending what its true nature is

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>>18928353

>>18928353
>>18928953
spooky :O

>>18927993
How would you have bad internet? Isn't it like a satellite?

>>18928997
I'm pretty sure they've said before that their connection with their NASA network is fine, but their general internet browsing experience isn't great for some reason.

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>>18928953

> Here with some answers for you guys

The size of a black matter does not matter since the absolute gravitational force of a black hole will be diversely proportional to its size;

you could imagine it like this;

>A black hole (with the same mass of the sun) with the size of a coin would instantly suck up your hand if you were to touch it; "LETS SAY" << this is a statement for an example, it would suck away a lot more than your hand ofc...

> But a black hole with the same mass yet a event horizon diameter of 50km would firstly strech your hand, slowly break your bones, process would be longer since the gravitational force has lot more layers of a sphere to dispatch upon

well, black holes die too, radiating away the hawking radiation causes them to wane just as a waning candle yet, it is such a long proccess that probably none of them ever fully depleted since the beginning of the universe

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>>18929048

>I meant a black hole

>I meant a black hole

>I meant a black hole

I am High ASF so spare me my lords...

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>>18924118
>>18929048
>>18929053


>greetings op, when it comes to providing my opinion on your matters it goes like this ;

>This is my theory gained through years of education and research // many theorists of physics and math support this idea on similar ways, what do you retards think about it


The final frontier is the concept of breaking the boundary between us and the upper level dimension
Therefore if you think about it geometrically, the forward dimension can be reached through getting infinitely closer into the center of a perfect sphere or just by growing the outer layers into infinite
(since we assume we live in a three dimensional plane, which makes sense)
Thinking of a 4th dimension can only be imagined in such a way...

mars the fucking wasteland with good iron resources, a large mine planet nothing else

anything earthly would be great to listen to, kek

>space

>>18929048
don't put bugles on spiders

>>18932514

What is zoom?

>>18932713
Nothing that explains the messed up proportions, distances, lighting and movement

>>18932726
You fucking idiot.

Perspective. When you're standing on the moon, it causes the earth to look smaller, because the moon is so much closer, like sticking your thumb in your eye.

As you get further away, they both begin to come back into perspective proper to each other. That's as fucking simple as it is.

>>18932726

>I can cover the sun with my thumb if I close one eye
>Caught NASA in a lie again, heh, *tips tinfoil* m'nasa

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>>18926441
Does anybody have that webm of the planets if they were the same proximity to the earth as the moon? The one of jupiter scared the piss out of me

>>18926441
Is this real?

>>18925242
Aw fuck a ghost in space!

>>18925242
>>18934510
My main issue with this sort if thing is, do you really think that if it was all just one great big conspiracy from NASA about space and all that shit, that they would risk showing live footage where all you need is something falling to fuck it all up. No way.

>>18928416
>Black holes are mysterious and very hypothetical

black holes are directly observable.

>THEY'RE WEARING HARNESSES ON THE ISS!!!!!!!!!! HARNESSES!!!!!!!

of course they are. How do you think they work? floating the fuck around?

The ISS clearly doesn't exist though, that's why you can watch it fly across the night sky.

>>18934684
WHAT THE FUCK?

SAUCE?

>>18934684
>>18934871
>chromakey screen

why would it have white lines on it? that would defeat the purpose. Let me explain this to you.

Video is going to be taken and broadcast, so they're doing video calibration shit

that is literally all

>>18934532
Dude, retards like him always act like NASA is the only space agency out there while nowadays every first world country at least is part of their own continents agency.

why is nasa so shit and full of fake news? it's american.

>>18934871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEE7OPKLhaM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m46s

Ripped it from this

>>18934193
>>18934214
>completely missing the problem
>hurr duurr thumb

yeah, thanks for telling me stuff I already know. But that didnt even remotely explain the inconsistencies in the DSCVR footage.
>messed up proportions, distances, lighting and movement

>>18934269
Cant find it right now, but here is a video like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYC_Z36rHw

>>18934309
yes. that totally happened

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>>18934944

Nasa is full of shit and the earth is a flat endless plane

>>18935050
lel, is the sun flat too?

>>18934965
I'm pretty sure there was some touching up of the footage to remove recording abnormalities, distortion due to radiation, etc.
Plus light travels differently in a vacuum, so you can't expect the lighting to follow the same laws as it does through the medium of air.

>>18935067
if sun was earth, yes it would be flat

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>>18935067

>>18935649
nonsense

>>18934982
Looks like a space suit to me, anon.

>>18935771
scuba tanks in space!

snorkels and scuba tanks in space

>>18935806
Nope, not seeing any.

>>18934965
There aren't any inconsistencies in the DSCVR footage.

>>18936465
Plenty. Also funny becuase NASA shills love to link to this https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

>>18936597
Nope. It's all just ignorance of perspective or bullshit like "how come you can't see the stars" hurrr!

I'm not sure why you think that's funny. Joke's on you.

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>>18936610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IigdJjB2TkQ

It's all a joke. Sorry that so few can comprehend the deception

>>18936655
>it has to be photoshopped
>because it disproves my preconceived notion that the earth is flat

Nice logic, dipshit.

Or, there's the alternative explanation. The earth is round and the pictures are real and your idea is wrong.

Only one of the pictures in your image is taken from DSCOVR. The differences in appearances with the others are all easily explained by different cameras and different perspectives.

You haven't shown any contradictions here. You're only showing you're very gullible.

>>18924118
I'm getting weirded out by the algae(or whatever), being found on the windows of the International Space Station.

>>18936692
Generally, fascinated by the concept of movinga zero-G vacuum.

>>18936698
wut?

>>18936698
*moving around in

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Picture snapped from the international space station.

>>18936699
Sorry, did I interrupt a spat?

>>18936706
It gets weird when reality is right in your face.

>>18936714
No, you just said something either very dumb or misstated.

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>>18936680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOE4Ar0Dfo

Listen to this. Does it fit with the pictures we have of earth?

>>18937500
>it got a little wider

Well he doesn't say how much wider, so yes.

>>18935611
>I'm pretty sure there was some touching up of the footage
definitely

>>18936465
there are
>messed up proportions, distances, lighting and movement

>>18936680
>The differences in appearances with the others are all easily explained
lmao, yet nobody is able to. What does the earth really look like then? make your mind up

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>>18938475
>>18938479

>there are

There are not. The proportions of the earth, its continents, and the moon are all exactly what you'd expect from a photo taken from the distance of DSCOVR.

>>18938479
>no one is able to

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-blue-marble-photos-show-a-changing-earth.t6616/

>what does the earth look like?

It looks like the photographs in

>>18936655

The proportions of the continents change depending on distance. As explained in the link.


Pic related.

>>18936706
Again, picture from the ISS. Deja Vu.

>>18938881
weak, you forgot that its supposed to be an oblate spheroid

>>18938881
the only reason to get a picture of earth from afar, at this point, is to silence flat earth people. Not a whole lot of profit in that. Also, I think it might be an intelligence issue. If you have access to images of the entire globe, then who else does? The world is chock full o' nuts. Like the coffee.

>>18938889
No, I didn't.

The degree of oblateness is very small. You wouldn't notice it from a photograph. That model globe isn't a perfect sphere either, but it looks like it may as well be one.

>>18938893

>the only reason to get a picture of earth from afar, at this point, is to silence flat earth people.

False. There are a number of reasons why DSCOVR is the distance that it is.

Most importantly is that it's at a Lagrange point. I don't expect most conspiracy theorists to understand what a Lagrange point is. It involves actual study and an understanding of physics. Let's just say it's a point where they can park satellites and not have to worry about maintaining its orbit.


Also, your ego is showing. NASA doesn't give two shits about flat earthers. The Ancient Greeks proved them wrong thousands of years ago. To NASA (and everybody else), flat earthers are just random crazy stupid people.)

>>18938900
tough crowd huh, better get yourself a glass of water, and notice how flatly the water sits in your glass

>>18938912
I got a glass of water and I noticed that it bulges due to water tension.

And if you get a large enough body of water, like a lake or a bay, it curves with the earth, exactly like you'd expect.

Maybe before suggesting experiments you should do some yourself.

>>18938922
water tension, you are talented explainer (liar)

>>18938933
Which part do you disagree with?

Maybe you should pour yourself a glass of water and look closely. Did you really think quickly changing the subject was going to work?

>>18938942
mr. jesuit, if you weren't covering something up here you wouldn't be here....

>>18938961
If you could think for yourself you wouldn't be here.

But you're dodging the questions and changing the subject. Why? Doesn't seem like something an honest person would do.

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>>18934880
I studied film in college. The only video calibration they would possibly doing is "white balance" -- look that up.

This screen is blue, so theyre not using it to white balance.

What you're looking at is not chroma key. Its called ORAD Virtual Set -- pic related.

>>18939225
>it's ORAD virtual set

It's not. that's what he's trying to claim it is, but it's not.

>>18939237
No he's trying to claim its some video calibration thing (whatever that means). But, I'm pretty sure ORAD or not its some tech that is used to super impose stuff on top of separate footage. Not saying that proves anything, I just think its interesting that astronauts (who you would think are VERY busy) have time to play around with blue/green screens.

>>18939260
The original poster was trying to claim that it's a type of blue screen (ORAD, he got the name wrong), and that they're trying to fake the ISS.

But that isn't an ORAD screen (you'll note it's a perfect grid, not the offset kind ORAD uses).

It's not any kind of blue/green/chromakey/ORAD screen.

It's just a simple grid for displaying physics demonstrations. They use them on Mythbusters, for fuck's sake.

>>18939270
I'd accept that explanation. Do you have any videos of them doing that?

>>18939288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iAaMyWq5T4

>>18939323
Thanks senpai

>go to /sci/ for space thread
>maximum retard conspiracies
>go to /x/ for conspiracy thread
>semi-decent space thread

Alright which universe is this and how did I get here.

>>18939328
i just noticed too

>>18939012
water adjusts its form to whatever vessel its in, and if undisturbed it is perfectly level

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>>18939273
>tfw massive fan of Terry Pratchett books but all the illustrations of the satirical 'Discworld' in his novels have been hijacked by deluded flat earth tards

>>18939889
>it is perfectly level.

Right. Level. As in equal distance to the center of gravity. So on a round earth, the water curves with it. In fact, bodies of water are good places to observe and measure the curvature of the earth, simply because they are so level. That's why the standard for elevation is "sea level."

level =./= flat.

>>18932514
Lol what the fuck is this shit, are you literally retarded or what? Do you not know how much space is between each and the Moon? Every planet in our solar system can fit between the moons orbit you idiot.

>>18940718
Actually he doesn't seem to understand that pictures can come in different sizes.

He thinks that because the earth is more pixels across in the lower right image, that must contradict the upper left image.

>>18940655
No such thing as gravity

>>18940839
Jump off a building.

>>18940863
That's density, and terminal velocity

>>18940863
An apple falls on your head

>>18936706
is that some space thing?

>>18940910
No, density is mass over volume, and terminal velocity is the maximum velocity of a falling object.

But you go ahead and take the post that I made and replace the word "gravity" with whatever word you want, and everything I said still holds true.

>>18941023
If you say so mr layola

>>18926440
And just think, it's all just going to burn up in a few years time.

Are there any plans for a successor?

>>18935771
You are fucking dumb or a liar

>>18936680
The guy with NASA that released the composite image admitted photoshop was used in its creation from ribbons of images. Do even the the most basic research before you reveal how stupid you are

>>18936706
What's funny to me is that not only is that obviously through a fish eye lens, but in the globe earth model, for the flare of the sun to be in the same view of that much illuminated earth, it would be impossible. You could see the sun in that position, but the earth would be completely black from that angle. What else you got?

>>18942847
In the images made from near earth satellites, you're correct. Those are composite images, because, again, they're near earth satellites, and have a limited field of view.

The ones from DSCOVR, on the other hand, are not. They are single images. And they show a round earth.

Yes, this debunks your flat earth claim. Too bad. It doesn't mean the photographs are fake. They're very real. The problem is your claim, not the photographs.

>>18942839
I can see the video, anon. Same as you. It's a blurrry vague rectangle and you can make out two legs, bumps that that arms/shoulders, and a roundish space helmet.

Exactly what you'd expect from a space suit.

The claim that it's a guy in a scuba suit, on the other hand, is a rather dumb lie.

Don't be a hypocrite, anon.

>>18942858
>flare of the sun to be in the same view of that much illuminated earth, it would be impossible.


Mmm, no it wouldn't. Most of the earth is indeed dark, just out of frame. The only way the earth would be completely black is if the sun were behind the earth, but we know that's not the case, because the flare indicates the sun is well above the earth, and also out of frame.

Nice try though.

>>18942899
You answered your own question though....if the earth was close enough to give off a flare like that and you are able to see the illuminated earth, the sun HAS to be closer than you think. You're not paying attention. Why would you blindly follow your brainwashing instead of taking an objective look at something. For the earth to be illuminated at the angle in that photo, it would be so far offscreen it would be 70-80 degrees to the upper right and waaaaay far off in the distance

>>18928997
>>18929011

ISS net goes to and through NASA instead of straight to the web servers like the rest of us.

>>18935067
>>18935771

Don't respond to those idiots.

>>18942920
>the sun has to be closer than you think

Uh, no it doesn't. In fact you get a sense of the sun's angle based on the shadows the clouds cast.

The flares given no indication as to how far away the sun is, only the general direction it is off frame.

You're grasping at straws.

The bottom line is that we aren't going to do shit in space because nobody is willing to make the investment, and it's easier investing in weapons to take shit from other retards than it is to develop practical space transport and life support.

IF we were smart, we'd invest in science and develop a better understanding of the cosmos, and a means of transportation and energy production that would allow us to harvest everything we needed from the ample raw materials floating around in the various meteor belts and uninhabited planets and moons that exist. If we were smart, we could even harvest ice and dump it on the arid regions of the planet and eliminate deserts permanently. We're not smart, though, and we're all going to die right here on this rock.

>>18934532
Fucking thank you!

IF there was a conspiracy no way blue collar workers who have 4 hours of spare time would be able to find the stuff ups.

>>18924118
I tried to post the truth in the Cheronobyl thread but I fear the authorities covered it up.

What is the Cheronobyl meltdown? - A catastrophic test at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in the former USSR, an example of the China syndrome as the reactor began to sink to the core, belching radioactive smoke as it melted through.

What is not normally known due to repression of memory and history is that it resulted in the near-total destruction of human civilization.

Once the Antichrist Ronald Reagan got wind of it, he sensed the time to bring about the End was now and launched a full out nuclear attack in conjunction with a truly massive terrorist campaign. What few survivors in the midst of World War III were left fled to orbit Saturn and seize a moon for survival, perhaps vainly thinking they would return to the Earth someday.

We are all either the foolish, the guilty and gormless who did nothing in the face of the 4th Antichrist and if we remember at all, we remember our sins can only feel shame; or we are their descendants in a cursed, uncaring infinite void.

The Earth we think we live on is not Sol III.

There is so much to relearn.

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>>18943400
pic related: Luna 15 Soviet drone passing over the Apollo 11 landing site on the moon in 1969.

The U.S. space program to the moon was an open program, not covert, like the Soviet programs. That means that every swinging dick with the ability, ally and enemy alike, monitored our progress, including the Soviets. Part of the REASON our space program was open is so that dumb fucks couldn't claim that we faked any of the REAL shit we did.

Conspiracy morons expect us to believe that the same type of RADAR systems we used to monitor our space flights weren't also used by the Soviets to monitor our space flights, and what's worse, they apparently believe that the Soviets wouldn't have called us out for our bullshit if we tried to fake anything. Those conspiracy morons are wrong.

Video: Luna 15 overflight of Apollo 11 landing site on the Sea of Tranquility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfiLBcX53GM

There's a line between healthy skepticism and absurdist denialist, and the moon landing denial cooks have leaped over that line.

>>18943478
>resulted in the near-total destruction of human civilization.

Just neck yourself already, moron.

>>18943528
Nuclear winter will do that. I don't know why that part enrages you so given everything else but I feel sorry for you nonetheless. The truth will never die.

>>18938881
>The proportions of the earth, its continents, and the moon are all exactly what you'd expect from a photo taken from the distance of DSCOVR.
Except it really isnt when you know what to expect and look closely

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>>18938900
>>18938922
>>18938942
>>and ongoing

Nigga, I like you and you know your stuff, but you get played like a fiddle. If we stop feeding these trolls, we will have less of this autism.

>>18943671
>say something stupid
>somebody corrects it
>lolitrolu

That's not how trolling works. Trolling means making the other guy look stupid, not pretending to be retarded.

>>18943656
For example?

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>>18943743
Thats right. Should have said """trolls"". Or maybe it is "retard roleplay".
Whatever, just a heads-up,

>>18931282
I understand why it looks so similar, but it always still amazes me for some reason

>>18925242
>Chinese lantern

>>18925225
what am i looking at here

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>>18934214
>m'nasa

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>>18932514
>>18932726
>>18934193
>>18934965
>>18936465
>>18936597
>>18936610
>>18936655
>>18936680
>>18937500
>>18938881
>>18938889
>>18938900
>>18938912
>>18938922
>>18938933
>>18938942
>>18938961
>>18939012
>>18939889
>>18940655
>>18940839
>>18940863
>>18940910
>>18941023
>>18941140

Flat Earthers: 0
Everyone Else: 100

GG

>>18944284
Exactly what it looks like, the moon transiting in front of the earth, from the perspective of the DSCVR probe, between the earth and the sun.

>>18944284
badly done imagery

>>18924118
The single most terrifying thought to me, is that we get out to the space colony phase, where our species inhabits multiple systems, and find out that there really is nobody else. That they either killed themselves off, or just plain haven't evolved to match us yet.
The idea that humans are the only form of intelligence is absolutely terrifying to me. Im not some hippie who thinks people were a mistake, i just think we have made A LOT of mistakes, and need a bit of help reaching our potential as a species.

>>18944334
noob calling us noobs, homo

>>18946091
1v1 me

>>18944334
is it meant for whistleblowers?

>>18946159
you would win

>>18941140
loyola, ignatius loyola

>>18946310
thats who you can thank for pushing the globe on everyone

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This thread is like the pineapple in upside down cake.

>>18946310
>Founder of the Jesuits

lol, why is that even a thing now?

>>18946747
>>18946687

>>18946762
Anon, the Jesuits weren't even founded until after Magellan circumnavigated the globe. The Ancient Greeks proved the earth was round thousands of years before that.

You might as well blame Mormons or the Chicago White Sox. It's pretty fucking random.

>>18946766
sounds like you believe everything they taught you in school

>>18946802
Sounds like you didn't go to school

>>18946872
i did, but autism spared me from processing the lies

>>18946887

Hahah

>>18928019
>There are more starless planets wandering around than stars in the universe

It is fucking impossible that humankind would know this fact if it were true, this is such a fucking retarded picture. Go swallow cyanide you dumb fuck

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>>18924280
This


>people would never lie to people they control
Also physics are taught wrong on purpose

>>18947282
It's an estimate. They look at the way light from stars gets gravity lensed due to rogue planets. They count up that number. Compare it to stars surveyed. They get a rough estimate.

So there's somewhere between 2 to 10,000 rogue planets in the Milky Way for every star.

>>18935649
this so many times

>>18925242

see, thats the stuff that can really get to me... i'm not some conspiracy theorist, but that shit just isnt supposed to happen in a situation with low gravity such as theirs. It simply defies logic, reason and physics.

I'm starting to believe that there are two parallel space programs... one public, one private. A shallow narrative for the masses, real insight for the elites.

>>18947548
>things aren't supposed to fly around in zero gravity

No, anon, zero gravity is kind of famous for shit floating around

>>18947553

except its not floating around, it's falling straight down.

>>18947572
>falling

How do you know it's not just moving in that direction coincidentally?

>>18947578

Because of this desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFPvdNbftOY

>>18947593
That doesn't answer the question. He specifically says he's being very careful.

Even despite being careful, there's a drop of water that flies off in a random direction. How do you know the original video isn't just the same thing, with the drop of water happening to go "down" relative to the position of the camera?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt4yL_8fnWA

>we somehow did this when all of NASA had less computing power than an iPhone

Ayy lmao unrelated but what happened to the divination general? Did it get banned from all the discorders shitposting?

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>>18934532
The fact that every time someone mentions this stuff they get called crazy mean nasa doesn't have to explain anything. You fight for them and don't question obvious errors.

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>>18947652
Let's not forget all the challenger astronauts had twins mysteriously still alive.cmon man ....shit don't add up

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>>18947720
Didn't even change their names. And you ask why they don't hide it? Because the masses don't even see it in plain view. Space is fake. Only reason you think it's real cause you were told.

>>18947727
>they didn't even change the names

You know, for a mentally healthy person, that would be a good clue that this is fake and they're not the same people.

>>18947720
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/challenger.asp

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>>18924263

So how many of these flat earth posters are just bantering and how many are legit retards?

>>18947880
I'm not a flat-earth poster; I'm here to mourn NASA's 50-year downward spiral from greatness into an astronaut-killing toilet fire.

>>18935649
real

>>18947611
because her watch never elevates from her wrist except when faced 'downward', following the direction of the droplet.

the towel-squeezing video shows the dude's watch moving in all directions of impetus, and is only stopped by the band against his arm, insinuating that he is actually in space.

>>18949167
>changing the subject

Have you consider maybe her watch is a tighter fit? Have you ever worn a watch in your life? It can either slide around or stay in one spot depending on how tight the fit is.