HAPPENING NEW VAULT 7 LEAK

Why does the most important thread on /x/ have 0 replies?

>>18838904
/x/ at the moment is more concerned with magical spells

>>18838904
Not paranormal and not conspiracy. Reality has no place here.

>>18838913
We can turn this into a paranormal event if we want.

The word the CIA it's blocking it's aliens.

>>18838545
Did we ever even get satisfactory proof of life?

>>18838913
this man is clown and his lawyier is the same of the rotschilds

>>18838545

>NEW LEAK
>what I expect: illuminati, aliums, nazi ufos, underground bases, hollow earth races, atlantis, antarctica pyramids, life on mars, bases on moon, evidence on montauk project, pizzagate, etc
>what I get: DID YOU KNOW CIA HAS BEEN A LITTLE MEAN ON THE INTERNET?

I don't give a flying fuck

>>18838919
Fair enough

>>18838948
Take your meds schizo

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>>18838545
I would like to know why Julian Assange considers it moral to release information about the American government cybersurveillance programs; but not to do the same for Russian or Chinese programs which accomplish similar goals by identical means.

I can only imagine the cynical explanation, that he is being paid for one reason.

You might want to make the argument that America bombs people, but so do Russia and China. The worst part of that argument is that Trump rescinded the policy of avoiding civilian casualties when authorizing airstrikes against Ba'athist traffickers, commonly referred to as DAESH.

This situation seems like Julian Assange enabled more gross manslaughter as a result of American policy, by conspiring with the Russian Federation to help Donald Trump get elected. I see Assange with no moral ground left to stand on, but anyone can chime in to correct me if they think I am wrong.

Read this related source, too-
http://www.attn.com/stories/15740/trump-executive-order-sets-stage-syrians-deaths

>>18839034
go and believe this faggot lies shill, you are so far of understanding reality, the elite doesnt give a fuck about you and me and same goes for this man

>>18839045
>IT'S THE RUSSIANS!!
>THE RUSSIANS GOT TRUMP INTO POWER
>THE RUSSIANS ARE NOMBING PEOPLE TOO
>I TOTALLY HAVE AN INDEPENDENT MIND OF MY OWN
Blow it out your ass, faggot.

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>>18839120
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4664634
>An outside foreign adversary effectively tried to hijack our most critical democratic process, the election of a president; and in that process, decided to favor one candidate over another. I can assure you, they didn’t do it because it was in the best interest of the American people. Russia’s goal, Vladimir Putin’s goal, is a weaker United States, weaker economically, weaker globally. And, that should be a concern to all Americans, regardless of party affiliation.

>https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/12/01/russia/syria-war-crimes-month-bombing-aleppo

>The Russian-Syrian coalition committed war crimes during a month-long aerial bombing campaign of opposition-controlled territory in Aleppo in September and October 2016.

>The Violations Documentation Center, a Syrian civil monitoring organization, documented that the bombing campaign killed more than 440 civilians, including more than 90 children.

pic related.

>>18839045
Fuck up fag

>>18838948
"This man is clown." I read that in a slavic accent. "You dress like Prostitute."

>>18839264
I do not believe that I am mistaken.

>>18838920
Nope

>>18838920
Yes, he read out headlines, sport results and reddit comments in real time on a livestream when he did his Reddit AMA.

https://youtu.be/rC2EjKYMCeg

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>>18839045
There's no moral high ground to be have here.

This it's the world of deep politics, no man comes clean, only option it's to dismantle the opposition before it delivers a letal blow.

>>18839045
maybe because EVERYONE in the world knows Russia and China are corrupt and dont need proof to prove it.

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>>18839514
That is absurd counterpoint to deny the existence of moral high ground. You may want to argue against moral relativism, but that is a fallacy whilst you seek to defend a man who has absconded between countries and embassies. He absolutely depends on moral relativism for there to be any logic in his legal defense.

Furthermore, he is now in contradiction of his own words as a spokesperson of wikileaks. See this source-

https://wikileaks.org/WikiSecrets-Julian-Assange-Full.html

>We are also in a position where we cannot say things which might be misconstrued as us suggesting that he is a source. But nonetheless, what we do know is we have a situation where there is a young man in solitary confinement, who has been there for over 300 days now, in very severe conditions, and the allegations against him are related to our publishing activities. Therefore, we do have some kind of moral obligation to look into his [Bradley Manning's] case.

We can make the same argument against Julian Assange now that he has advantaged the Trump Campaign in coordination with the Russian federation. Trump has signed policies that accelerated the number of civilian casualties; and Putin assassinates journalists. Wikileaks now has that same moral obligation to act against itself in preservation of transparency.

>Is that the standard that we should hold people to, that they should not engage in action that has helped to free people from dictatorships? What kind of standard is that? If someone has an opportunity to free people from dictatorships and does not act, obviously that is an immoral standard. That is a standard that no one should be held to.

Julian Assange's actions in support of Putin now hold to that same immoral standard.

Even in the world of deep politics, if you deny any morality: you have to accept the existence of written law, where a person can be clean or dirty according to guilt or innocence.

J.A. is a piebald hypocrite working for the highest bidder.

>>18839045
You are perfectly right in my opinion.
Wikileaks , Anonymous sources, and all that shit is internally fake since ~2013 4

>>18839245
>Exposing the rotten to the core DEM fucktards
>not wanting to know the truth because IT'S FAVOURING THAT MISOGINIST DRUMPF GUISE!1!1!1

>>18838904
Because inane conspiracies are the relm of /pol/

>>18839715
>DEM fucktards
>I don't have any ability to understand my own self-interest
>please be gentle

You're the type that's going to be gawking and wondering what happened when the country turns into a shithole aren't you?

Everyone ignore this thread it isnt real please stop

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>>18839656
We have suspected that wikileaks it's compromised since a long time ago, and his internet was cut, to be honest while in the middle of the debacle, I also didn't knew wich side where we on.

I'm not arguing in favor of moral relativism, at least I think I don't, I'm saying that no one has the knowledge of the situation necessary to make a correct judgement on the consequences of his actions, even if he acts with no ill intention, the ramifications of every decision are beyond anyones comprehension.

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>>18839245
Does everyone forget that the US fucked with the Russian elections in the 90's to put Boris Yeltson in power

>>18839715
I think that the Russia scandal is worse, because they were aiding the Taliban in 2016, so it might be high treason.

>>18839740
>We have suspected that wikileaks it's compromised since a long time ago, and his internet was cut, to be honest while in the middle of the debacle, I also didn't knew wich side where we on.

So, we are now on the same side of the debate about wikileaks: that they are too hypocritical to be trusted.

>I'm not arguing in favor of moral relativism, at least I think I don't,

Julian Assange can only claim innocence through moral relativism as a legal standard.

> I'm saying that no one has the knowledge of the situation necessary to make a correct judgement on the consequences of his actions, even if he acts with no ill intention

If no one has the context or background to judge, then transparency thusly helps no one, too.

>the ramifications of every decision are beyond anyones comprehension.

The ultimate ramifications of every decision are beyond the comprehension of any individual. So, we have the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics from Everett. By the same token, the immediate ramifications of a decision are a measurable piece; If you advert to the immediate past as a basis.

>>18839744
He had been in charge of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. The USSR was breaking up, and American advisors had to ensure a steady transfer of power as per nuclear agreements.

The United States has no plan to break up, contrary to the comparison.

>>18839798
Transparency helps the people, the individuals that are already in the clogs of the machine can't see the whole picture, but we as an audience have a different point of view, even if we don't understand now, history will judge and the decisions, will define itself by the consequences.

The inmediate past isn't a reference for this, given that every decision and every issue carry it's own weight different from the one before, even if they seem the same they probably aren't.

As example you can transparent what one goverment does and turns out to be a good thing, but if you do exactly the same with the same goverment and the same individuals, you can have a completely different situation.

Wikileaks it's in that paradox, the first time they revealed the secrets of the US goverment, they became the saviours of the western world, I can attest that those leaks helped my country and the people I live with, there the reason why I'm defending them.

But the same action of revealing the actions behind the public curtain, have costed them the negative situation they are living now.

>>18839731
nice try cia

Is Assange even still alive?

>>18839824
Transparency helps the people, but only if you believe that they can judge wikileaks as well as the government.

The immediate past must be a reference to the present, and ditto the future to the present; for our understanding of time is based on causation.

The notion of equivocation between two governments is a slight against wikileaks, because favoritism is apparent.

Wikileaks now seems to be aiding the harm of people whom they claimed to help: and that claim was the mere justification for the existence of the organization.

The non-profit international corporation, Wikileaks, deserves to be audited: since 2016 they have shown a preference in their activities for the sake of profit, and that preference contradicts their public statements about their organizational goals.

If you do not think that wikileaks should be audited at this point, then you are claiming they should be above the law: and that is the very same claim they attack as an immoral opinion for people with political power. Therein lies a contradiction of hubris, not a paradox.

>>18838545
Take this to /g/ and /pol/, really. Once again the leader sits on the sidelines with a pouty mouth, and let's his nation's intelligence secrets get leaked just because CIA hurt his feelings. What a disaster. Probably the best puppet in the history of the nation.

>>18839953
I seriously think they could disolve, but we can't be without an organization that does what they did.

There's just to many thing unaccounted on goverment payroll.

I have trouble accepting this many separate things, when we are going on an organizations word, about where it came from. This is probably the biggest disinformation campaign in history. Would make more sense than, the whole world can't stop one guy. Kek.

>>18840076
If we agree that they have some purpose to exist, then they should be audited instead of dissolved.

If we find that their internal practices are not sufficient to achieve their stated goals, then we can dissolve the company so that their competition has a better chance to accomplish those same goals.

Maybe wikileaks should be more like wikipedia than a politicized non-state actor.

>>18838545
This man will probably be tweeting what he thinks is high level classified information in five years. None of which, will likely be much more than whatever the intelligence community is feeding into the pipeline. Through some "legitimate", "untouchable" sources. Everything is appearance. Who buys this? Very Hollywood. And harder to accept all the time.

>>18840098
You have to take into consideration the kind of people we are dealing with, australians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxUCXrdPPSE

You will never make them comply, best you can do it's what they have done now, make them a public institution and a scapegoat.

Regardless, the existance of this groups it's a fact that will have to be dealt with, case by case.

>>18840182
I try to keep this issue in situational terms.

We do not need to make all of Australia comply, just one guy who left and then violated a contract of incorporation.

The problem with the org is that the prefix wiki- merely seems to be ancillary. There is an obvious profit motive in who pays and who posts. I think that the cases are not fair for individuals; if Julian Assange can abscond, and thus place himself above the law.

>>18838913
/thread

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>>18840098
>Maybe wikileaks should be more like wikipedia than a politicized non-state actor.

Perhaps, right after the media loses it's blatant bias and offers people a balanced perspective.

Until that time, Mr. Assange will remain on the side of right, in the eyes of many.

>>18840331
The only bias in the media is dichotomy.

They need more dualism.

If you want to defend Mr.Assange against charges of hypocrisy and violation of contract; you need to recognize the difference between for-profit and non-profit in terms of corporate law.

Maybe Assange would be on the side of right if he was the head journalist in a WikiNews channel. Until then, he is apparently a hypocrite who endangers people for money. His elitism, combined with malfeasance, is technically the original problem which has re-emerged in the present.

>>18838545
It appears to be a crypter. They are used to scramble viruses/trojens/rats/malware any .exe file to make them FUD (fully undetectable) by antiviruses.

>>18840375
What about all those filthy rich billionaires that do nothing more than throw money at left wing politicians?

Or the studio's that do nothing more than inject propaganda into everything they produce?

These are blatant acts of manipulation that are quite hard to ignore. Until this is rectified, I hope Mr. Assange continues his work in earnest.

>They need more dualism.
More? At this time I would be happy if they just had some...

>>18839045
The whole point is to fuck over the American tech industry by destroying confidence in them.

He doesn't give a shit about leaking stuff unless it fits his agenda. Just like america doesn't give a fuck about freedom or they would overthrow best korea

>>18840408
The IRS should audit anyone who abuses a non-profit corporation for political purposes.

The movie studios inject propaganda both ways, but the real problem in mass media is plagiarism.

If you want to equivocate the blatant acts of manipulation, then the word of law is more favorable to the people who push agendas for profit; Assange looks like he is using a shell corporation to cheat on his taxes, just like the people he criticizes. The moral arguments he made in defense of his organization now apply to himself in the present.

>More? At this time I would be happy if they just had some...

I try to only watch C-Span. The hard part is using it to listen to people with whom you have disagreement.

>>18840425

>The whole point is to fuck over the American tech industry by destroying confidence in them.

That is a for-profit action, the profit is channeled from foreign competitors.

>He doesn't give a shit about leaking stuff unless it fits his agenda.

The problem is that the agenda is up for auction. He has the wrong corporate structure for that kind of behavior.

>Just like america doesn't give a fuck about freedom or they would overthrow best korea.

America would have done so already, were it not for moles in USian intelligentsia, with Russian and Chinese sympathies.

I can say that as someone who has worked with computational linguistics for machine translation of altaic languages. I also know the creation story of North Korea, and why defectors from the Mitt Romney campaign gave them the knowledge of chemical processes to extract uranium.

In orientalist terms, America gives a fuck about freedom because we believe that the fairness and efficiency of the market is divine. That thinking does not translate anywhere in North Asia. The Kim dynasty can still be overthrown; if you deny the bering strait hypothesis, and then apply that knowledge to phonology.

>>18841129
If you don't like how they go about it, why don't you infiltrate the CIA and reveal their secrets?

>>18842181
>If you don't like how they go about it, why don't you infiltrate the CIA and reveal their secrets?

I do not engage in such activities because I believe that: stealing information from a group of people who are designated to steal information is a sisyphean task at best.

>>18841129
I do like some C-SPAN but consider watching Rachel Maddow at least. She connected the dots on Russia months ago and had Clinton Watts on as a guest tonight.

>>18842221
Maddow is never right about anything, she's a shitty establishment shill.

>>18842231
That's a pretty baseless claim. Rachel Maddow is a great journalist imho. Did you know she was the first television news anchor to be talking about Flint by like a mile?

>>18842235
She lost any credibility she had left sinking her heels in on this Russia conspiracy, there's more evidence for pizzagate and I don't even believe that

Very interested for the release of this. Hopefully 7/1, I think I might know what it's all about

>>18842336
Die in a fire

>>18842221
I watch Rachel Maddow from time to time, and I think she does good investigative journalism. I met her in person a few times, and she is cooler and more laid back than her airtime demeanor would suggest.

>>18842336
>Russia conspiracy, there's more evidence for pizzagate

If there is more evidence for pizzagate, then why is General Flynn seeking immunity in exchange for his testimony? He would get charged with perjury if they took his offer and then there was nothing at all to go on. He tweeted about pizzagate, too; if you want to compare standards of evidence.

>>18839722
don't you mean /mlpol/?
sure is weird that the site suddenly has to "combine boards" don't you think? a little too fucking convenient?

i know the meme is "it's happening" every fucking day over there, but come on, there were legitimate political and semi-political things being discussed there like the rapefugee crisis in sweden/germany and the brexit threads.

now it's like /trash/ is directly linked to the fucking board list.

>not even a conspiracy, just the site OP being a trolling faggot.

>>18842682
>now it's like /trash/ is directly linked to the fucking board list.

Made me smile. It's been like that since Nov. 8.

>>18842725
>/pol/ hates Jews
>/pol/ loves Trump
>Trump loves Jews
>/pol/ implodes

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>>18842654
>I met [Rachel Maddow] in person a few times

You're so lucky!! I am incredibly gay for Rachel Maddow and wish I could meet her too.

>>18842654
>then why is General Flynn seeking immunity in exchange for his testimony?

Maybe because he's afraid of a punitive witch-hunt? Does "Jury shopping" mean nothing to you? There were assholes filing impeachment paperwork against Trump literally on his first fucking day in office. Please, dude.

>>18842934
Flynn stood up in front of a very large crowd and said that the only reason someone would seek immunity is if they were guilty. His words, chum.

>>18842682
You DO realize what today is... right? Things will be back tomorrow.

>>18838904
When wikileaks releases how summon a succubus people on /x/ will care

>>18842937
>a politician flip-flopped!

wow stop the fuckin presses m8 you're onto something here

>>18842822
We had some very distal relation on my French side.

If you have not yet done so, you may want to buy her book-
https://www.amazon.com/drift-unmooring-american-military-power/dp/0307460991

She has a lively community of commenters on her youtube channel and MSNBC, where I occasionally contribute a post by hyperbole of my legal name.

>>18840425
destroying what? he is crazy

>>18842962
Maddow does great military history, I'll have to check it out. Have you read Chris Hayes' new book by chance?

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>>18842812
Kek gets the final laugh. Kek.

>>18842934
>Maybe because he's afraid of a punitive witch-hunt?

When you used the word 'punitive' you imply that he is afraid of punishment, and that implies guilt in a legal sense. He appears to be shopping for a plea bargain, he failed to register as a foreign agent of Turkey; but I do not work as a defense attorney.

>Does "Jury shopping" mean nothing to you?

I tend to view court issues from the judicial standpoint, so I had to look up that term. It seems to be a phrase that lawyers use to accuse each other.

I do not think he can successfully plead the 5th, because he apparent conspired to violate the 5th amendment rights of Gülen. I think that Gülen should be sued for endangering United States embassy personnel, but that the Trump transition team was too severe in their approach to extradite him. Now Flynn has to deal with perjury and battery charges separately. The American people deserve to know about the latter charge.

>There were assholes filing impeachment paperwork against Trump literally on his first fucking day in office.

The strength of his connections to Russia are a cause for concern, because the Russian Federation has aided and abetted the Taliban in Afghanistan. If you think that Hillary Clinton did wrong in the Benghazi scandal, then that same logic has to apply to him, Russia, and the Taliban.

>Please, dude.

We are arguing about how General Flynn will 'plead'.

>>18842953
He was not a politician, he was a public official who did not run for office in an election.

>>18843021
>and that implies guilt in a legal sense

Yeah, no, faggot, "punishment' is not just a legal term. For instance, deterrence strategy is based on punishment. Like bombers in the 40s. "Attack me and I bomb your fucking cities." That's also punishment.

>he failed to register as a foreign agent of Turkey

What the *actual* fuck are you babbling about?

>It seems to be a phrase that lawyers use to accuse each other.

Easy to do, since everyone does it. You've heard of challenging jury selections, right? On the Congresisonal level it means shopping through several Grand Juries until you get even one willing to swallow your bullshit long enough to levy an indictment. Doesn't matter if it gets squashed in court later, the accusation is enough to smear reputations with.

>The strength of his connections to Russia are a cause for concern

A bunch of fucking horseshit "questions" endlessly repeated by a bought and paid for shill media do not equal "connections." Let's see some fucking evidence.

>We are arguing about how General Flynn will 'plead'.

Bruh you're trying to analyze politics from a cut-and-dried "judicial" perspective. You're missing the-

>He was not a politician, he was a public official who did not run for office in an election.
>military general
>not a politician

man there's some shit you don't know about the military. I could tell you some shit about the military.

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>>18842977
J'aime bien les cuisses de grenouille.

>>18842973
I have not read Chris Hayes' new book: A Colony in a Nation. I have pondered the topic recently, and I came to the conclusion that racially charged terms were always used in a relative sense; so it is a noble pursuit of Chris Hayes to write about race relations with integrative virtue.

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>>18838545
If the point of Trump is to undermine the US as a competent power, They are doing a great job.

But who is pulling all the strings? Who would have this level of influence and deniability? The world may never know. Like tootsie pop.

>>18843116
trump is another transgender actor performing the nation state illusion SO YOU ARE JUST BEING PLAYED ha! you got pranked bro

>>18843116
It's a flag on the ground people. But it's Muslims. From caves.

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>>18843119

Go back to
>>>/mlpol/

>>18843043
>Yeah, no, faggot, "punishment' is not just a legal term. For instance, deterrence strategy is based on punishment. Like bombers in the 40s. "Attack me and I bomb your fucking cities." That's also punishment.

The word is a legal term in the context of his legal strategy. We are not discussing military history.

>What the *actual* fuck are you babbling about?

General Flynn did not follow the Foreign Agent Registration Act when he accepted money to lobby on behalf of a foreign government.

>Easy to do, since everyone does it. You've heard of challenging jury selections, right? On the Congresisonal level it means shopping through several Grand Juries until you get even one willing to swallow your bullshit long enough to levy an indictment. Doesn't matter if it gets squashed in court later, the accusation is enough to smear reputations with.

Via Cornell law library:
>Amendment V
>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury,

Do you want to cite a source?

Immunity is usually a part of the plea bargain process. Informants request immunity.

>A bunch of fucking horseshit "questions" endlessly repeated by a bought and paid for shill media do not equal "connections." Let's see some fucking evidence.

Two trump nominees admitted the communication. One of them lied under oath.

>Bruh you're trying to analyze politics from a cut-and-dried "judicial" perspective. You're missing the-

I said that he deserved immunity for the failure to register charge. The conspiracy against Gülen is a different story, because he has US citizenship.

>man there's some shit you don't know about the military. I could tell you some shit about the military.

And, I think that he deserves that specific immunity because of his general status.

Hoo-rah!

>>18843102
link:

https://www.amazon.com/Colony-Nation-Chris-Hayes/dp/0393254224/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491067519&sr=8-1&keywords=Chris+Hayes

>>18843131
DONT YOU SEE YOU BLIND PIG, EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME BOAT AND YOU AREA LOW LEVEL SLAVE AND A LESSER BREED HUMAN ,FOOD A SLAVE WITH NO LAND NORIGHTS AND YOU ARE A ZOMBIE WITH NOBRAINS

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>>18843203
>>18843203
WHAT IS your end goal you idiot?waiting for free energy or going to mars or another planet or what? get your fucking shit together you idiot everybody is an actor and all of us are we being played ,the vatican still exist and the jews still control everything and every politician is against
you and me and all of the people of the world because live is evil for them , you might be a fucking retarded waiting for trump to fix your life or what? if the sun his hellios and there is no hell and ur anus is the heaven ? then what happens when you die ????? you are inside of a computer simulation faggot and we all better stick on a common cause of survivalbecause eternal life is something real and mooney is being load from death certificate births

HOOW FUCKING RETARDE YOU MIGHT BE TO NOT SEE THIS YOU LARPING PRETENTIOUS MOTHERFUCKER WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM.

YOU MIGHT BE A SHILL SO FUCK OFF TO MY LITTE POL

>>18843251
Hanz please.

>>18843251
I was sorely tempted to respond in meme...

My end goal is cybernetic shamanism. Free energy is a phrase that I might use to construct a physical model for achieving said goal. Trips to Mars sound like a luxury in the grand scheme of interstellar travel. I keep my sentences together and hope that you will do the same in the future. Actors have a specific profession, but anyone can attempt acting. I am not being played unless the game is mutual. The Vatican and the Jews can be rather kindly in person. I do not think they control everything, because I do not see why they would allow for spelling errors. I think that some politicians might be on the fence in the argument between you and me. All of the people in the world need to respond to a singular survey before you can make anything sharper than a hasty generalization. Live is evil only for the misfortune of malevolence. I have genius in excess, and that might retard my progress in life. I do not consider Trump to be a repairman among life coaches, either. I object to any vulgar comparison of human anatomy to the solar system. You should use the cell model from molecular biology, instead. When you die, your soul transmigrates or self-assembles into the mind of the newborn. Just because we can measure information processing in natural phenomena, we yet lack evidence of computation as a subset of reality. That assertion is an ontological contradiction about the limits of truth and causation. Still, we agree on the necessity of species survival as a common cause. Eternal life is only real if you interpret life as something abstract, then death cannot steal loved ones from you. Money is loaned from certificates just as death gives rise to births.

Why, generative wisdom we empowered as illumination thusly realized preternatural love.

What is your loving problem?

You might still-
be a fish so little-
unloved by the greater pool.

>>18843404
>cybernetic shamanism
we digitial devil saga or what

>>18843404
>this is probably the serb again

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>>18843404

What was the man?
In what part of his open conversation
Between the stores and the whistles
In which of his metallic movements
Lived the indestructible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ed_OQY-uQ

Pointless. THE ONLY thing that will defeat this simulated reality - aka money, is a cosmic event that will wipe away all the biological pollution on this plagued planet. Wikileaks accomplishes absolutely nothing. As long as the overhwhelming majority of slaves on this world continue worshipping nothing will ever change.

the secret of rennes le chateu was how the heck the aethernet works

>>18843451
I was thinking more like Lee Scratch Perry- Disco Devil, with a side of Mojo Risin' into the heliotrope of a springtime evening.


>>18843459
Who is the serb?
Hanz?

>>18843476
I much prefer the work of Os Mutantes; but I vaguely recall the name of Pablo Neruda.

That album has good cadence and interesting cover art.

>>18839798
so it's okay for america to meddle in other countries elections cool!

We can just make up justifications based on whats happening easy peeezzzy

>>18843720
>so it's okay for america to meddle in other countries elections cool!

The Soviet Union required election observers to validate the results of voting in each republic as it broke apart. You need to understand the cultural context of Chernobyl, and nuclear waste dumping in the 'stans. Russia was an empire within the soviet bloc, and one that waged war against lesser soviet republics by polluting.

When the USSR broke apart, Americans had to oversee the election process to make sure that nuclear weapons were not expropriated. Please note the Lisbon Protocol of the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty.

>>18842940
yes i do realise what day it is
which is why every-fucking-thing that happens on the last day of march gets to be fucked around with the following day.

also
>back to normal
there will be pony faggots who won't get the hint for fucking weeks because of today. its bad enough /pol/ has to deal with eternal cucked and blacked and "DA JOOZE" and "literally actual fascists" threads
mlp is just worse than all of that shit combined, even the holocaust.

>>18839045
Wikileaks has been completely one-sided over the last 6-8 months. Everything is anti-democrat, anti-intelligence agency. Someone is financing them and calling the shots.

>>18838545
Assange is true patriot

>>18841129
Linguistics nerd here:

Altaic is bullshit. Kinda undermines the rest of what you said.

>>18844253
If you want to liken Mongolian, Tungusic, and North Korean: then you can reason about the legal system in those places. When those three groups communicate, they claim to use a progenitor language.

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>>18844181
>Wikileaks has been completely one-sided over the last 6-8 months. Everything is anti-democrat, anti-intelligence agency. Someone is financing them and calling the shots.

Oh, you poor little democrat.

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>>18842347

make that two fires

#pizzagate #pedogate

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>>18839045
>>18839676
>>18840425
>>18844181

You guys really dont understand how WikiLeaks works do you?

They publish what they get (and is not yet published elsewhere). They cant just decide and make up stories according to their agenda like MSM journalists can.
Sure @wikilakes and Assange himself can be biased, but publications on wikileaks.org are not. They publish leaks in a way to attract as much media attention as possible. But media whoring and click bait is not bias.

There is no way they publish things with intention to hurt only US. Fact is that majority of leaks they get are from US. Russian and Chinese leakers use different platforms.
Its unreasonable to accuse them of having some dirt on Trump or Putin but they dont want to publish them. Doing this, they would absolutely destroy their reputation.
Imagine you are Russian leaker and you leaked some Putin documents to WikiLeaks. After months they still dont publish them. You can easily leak same documents to cryptome.org or globalleaks,com or balkanleaks.org or any news organization and accuse WikiLeaks of refraining from publishing your leaks.
This hasnt happened yet. And in case they would be biased as many claim they are, it would.

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>>18846609
Some popular claims refuted:

> WL never published any damaging documents about Russia
WikiLeaks has published more than 800,000 documents that relate to Russia or Vladimir Putin. Most of those are critical. More than 2 million are from Syria. We have material from China, we’ve been banned in China, etc. Each country’s establishment tends to perceive WikiLeaks as something that is difficult for them and that erodes the authority of state institutions and that’s true in the United States.

wikileaks.org search
Putin : 82,928 results
Kremlin: 59,589 results
Russia: 654,892 results


> Assange works for Russian state sponsored televisions RT
Another common untruth is the claim that I worked for RT, the Russian State TV. It’s absolutely false. In 2012, we setup a production company and our production company worked with Dartmouth Films, a UK production company and a distributor, Journeyman Pitches, and twelve episodes were filmed of me interviewing people. It was called The World Tomorrow. It was my first TV production. We licensed that to a dozen different outfits and RT was one of them. RT aggressively promoted it internationally and then people tried to twist this story into having a "job" at RT because they have no arguments about content.
It was similar story with Pilger 2016 interview.

>Russia uses WikiLeaks to hurt US
Everybody can brag that he was WikiLeaks source. Assange and Craig Murray said multiple times that emails came from insider. If that is true, I dont know, also I am not sure if they are talking about Podesta emails or about wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
It sure would be trivial for Russians to leak docs to WikiLeaks pretending to be DNC insider. But that deosnt really matter for WL they just care if docs are authentic.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

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not to spam the board but ive got data wikileaks wont touch
xd why is that?

\r\reptiliandata

>>18844370
Teahnand donald trump said Snowden should be executed. Fuckkkkk offffffff. Right wingers hated Snowden and assamge during that time while leftwingers loved him. Now right wingers love him and leftwingers hate him. Do you really think that's just as coinsedence you dense idiot? Have you ever taken the time to examine what's going on without picking a fucking side or turning things into an us vs them mentality?

And no amount of
>well the left did this
Can justify this childish behavior. Whatever one side has done the other has already done the exact same thing at some point in time. Maybe use your brain instead of just treating everything like a football game.

>>18844370
To continue my last rant, dudes like you are so dense you minimize everyone left of center as democrats or Hillary supporters. Guess what, no leftists actually wanted Hillary to win. Most of her voters reluctantly voted for her to avoid a trump presidency.

Just because you guys slob trumps knob all day doesn't mean the opposing view idolizes their representatives in the same way. Please stop being such a jock about reality and stop dichotomizing things in a black and white way because it makes you feel comfortable with your pre established views implanted via indoctrination.

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>>18846704
So you are trying to say that those who voted for Hillary voted mainly to prevent bigoted Trump win, and Trump voters voted to prevent warmongering Hillary to win?
Doesnt democracy work well? Just as intended.

>>18838545
Do you think Julian Assange has reason to believe the CIA has a Death Note?

>>18846609

>You guys really dont understand how WikiLeaks works do you?

The timing and the content of leaks requires a pattern that takes a side in the American Election, and contradicts a stated goal of journalistic transparency.

>They publish what they get (and is not yet published elsewhere).

We cannot verify that much without audit.

> They cant just decide and make up stories according to their agenda like MSM journalists can.

If you believe that, then you do not oppose and audit. If wikileaks wants to claim self-righteousness and moral authority, then the public has a right to know about their internal workings by the very same token.

>They publish leaks in a way to attract as much media attention as possible. But media whoring and click bait is not bias.

No, that is a bias towards sensationalism and whatever botnets will hype.

>There is no way they publish things with intention to hurt only US.

Are you saying they have never done anything of that sort?

They published troop locations.

>Fact is that majority of leaks they get are from US.

And the majority of political oppression happens elsewhere, so there is a bias.


>Russian and Chinese leakers use different platforms.

So, you admit there is a bias towards material from the US.

>Its unreasonable to accuse them of having some dirt on Trump or Putin but they dont want to publish them. Doing this, they would absolutely destroy their reputation.

They would not suffer from keeping a secret, because of the anonymity of leakers.

>This hasnt happened yet.

That is a fallacy because you cannot contradict the assertion without violating the privacy of a leaker.

>>18838913

>Not conspiracy

Hi Shariablue! Gb2 /pol/, or better yet, neck yourself faggot.

>>18846655

>WikiLeaks has published more than 800,000 documents that relate to Russia or Vladimir Putin.

654,892 results + 82,928 results = 737,820

Maybe you meant Russia or Vladimir or Putin.

Here are some comparisons.

Putin : 82,928 results < Clinton : 87,501 results

Kremlin: 59,589 results < Washington : 863,907

Russia : 654,892 results < United States : 812,151 results

>Another common untruth is the claim that I worked for RT, the Russian State TV.

You admitted to working with RT, not for RT. That is a very subtle difference for the public to note.

>If that is true, I dont know, also I am not sure if they are talking about Podesta emails or about wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

The podesta emails are being used to fuel racial animosity against religious minorities in the United States. Russia has a stated goal to provoke racial instability in the United States, via Dugin: Foundations of Geopolitics.

There is clear evidence that the actions of wikileaks hurt the United States in concordance with Russian goals.

One aspect that sticks out like a sore thumb is the rituals of sacrifice and cannibalism in pizzagate. The sociological origins of those methods clearly rooted from Siberian Shamanism, in modern Russia. For that reason I find it impossible to refute that leak as a Russian conspiracy, even if there was criminal activity as alleged.

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>>18846797
They cant publish what they dont have.

Yeah timing, dosage, presentation, hype... all this is done with intent to give their leaks most exposure possible. They are media whores I dont deny that. I assume they need to be if they want flow of destinations to continue.

What audit are you talking about? I dont oppose auditing their financial records (although I have no idea what countries they have their accounts on, and in case they have majority of money in Bitcoins any audit is impossible and based only on trust).
Audit of their raw leaks and servers would probably endanger leakers. And its quite easy to hide or encrypt any controversial data from auditor. Proper opsec would be to delete all logs and all source files as soon as possible anyways.
If I would be running similar organization, I am sure I would not allow any outside auditors to sift through my stuff, without having full control over what they can find; which makes audit purposeless.

Did they know that Podesta emails, DNCLeaks and Collateral damage video will hurt Hillary? Sure they did. But intent of leaks was to make true information public. If you ask me, there actually were't any bombshells in Podesta Emails anyways, he seemed like nice, fair and honest dude to me.

They say they publish raw leaks, in its entirety, they just remove minimal amount of information to protect not public figures and innocent people. They arent perfect as sanitizing this.

Leaker can easily stay anonymous if he leaks to any other leaking page or news organizations.There is nothing stopping anyone to use TOR to contact journalists, or to make his own site like DCLeaks.com.You can even leak on 4chan on reddit with high chances you will get traction. News articles are constantly publishing things like "reliable source confirmed...". Many (most eagerly pro-US anti-WL media) would publish story about leaker who was censored by WL, if that would prove that Assange is Russian pawn.

>>18846829
You are ignoring some of the facts.

-Most leakers don't know russian, therefore it's easier to hack english servers than russian.

-There's more animosity towards the US and in particular to the DNC and the Clintons than towards Putin.

-The racial instability was nurtured inside the US, to be honest I wouldn't even knew it existed in the degree it does, until I was exposed to /pol/.

Russians have valid reasons to resent the US and NATO, and you have valid reasons to suspect them, but it's irresponsible to not make a mea culpa, and realize that something non centralized like the hacker community it's not motivated by petty feelings and resentments.

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>>18838545
magic doesnt real paranerds

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>>18846829
My answers about number of documents about Russia and about involvement with RT were quotes made by Assange in Reddit AMA.

> They arent my opinion or statements I used greentext incorrectly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_assange_founder_of_wikileaks_ask_me/

Search results were just to show that Julians number 800,000 was in right ballpark, although I am not sure if those results count one document with two mentions of Russia as two hits.

Comparison with US equivalent terms is pointless because WL does not control what leakers give to them. They publish what they get.
But it still surprised me how close numbers are. I expected 10 times more leaks with US themed documents.
WL is popular page for western leakers. Balkan, Russinan and Chinese have their own platforms and news. Their leakers dont leak to WL since their target audience doesnt follow WikiLeaks.


They sell their videos to whoever wants to pay for them and publish them. If that is RT or CNN it doesnt matter. Content is the same and it reaches public in both cases.


If content of leaks aligns with interest of some country... should they not publish it? Any leak benefits and hurts someone.

WL has "pissed off" Russia too. Thanks to their documents Russia has lost a huge Yukos multi-billion lawsuit in the international court. Yukos was a major Russian oil company that was privatised as result of trials over fraud by its owners, including Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Those trials were correct in merit (since Khodorkovsky is corrupt criminal oligarch), but were dubious in legal terms - what Wikileaks publications have uncovered.

WL also published not only Syrian files, but other MENA region leaks that have helped StateDep to manipulate protests the region that were used for "regime change" operations in few countries. Russia was firmly against any disarrays in the region and seen great harm in the fact that those leaks happened.

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>>18846829

>One aspect that sticks out like a sore thumb is the rituals of sacrifice and cannibalism in pizzagate. The sociological origins of those methods clearly rooted from Siberian Shamanism, in modern Russia. For that reason I find it impossible to refute that leak as a Russian conspiracy, even if there was criminal activity as alleged.

Dont draw any conclusions from lame "jews did 911" tier conspiracies like pizzagate.
or Marina Abramović art projects.
As far I know all that came from r/The_Donald. I dont think that WL could have predicted that.

But I do know that @wikileaks tweeted once or twice some tweets mentioning pizzagate and rituals.
Again I don not support how @wikileaks is managed. @wikileaks is as I understood account that many people have access to.

Assange did say in AMA that multiple people manage twitter accounts. Some of them sure have personal preferences and agenda, and it can be seen from their tweets. Assange apparently doesn't think this is an issue at that point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWCQmQ8wjv0&feature=youtu.be&t=56m54s

I dont agree with everything Assange does. He isnt exactly great at hiring people (WL employees were CIA informants, some people left because of Assanges character, some didnt join becasue of sexual remarks)... He clearly has some sort of superiority complex.

But publications on wikileaks.org seem very solid. Not a single one was proven to be fake or altered. And I am sure people tried to discredit them with submitting fake documents.