Is Wicca just a meme snowflake religion?

>>18836957
fat girl religion

My mom is wikkan.
Can I trade her in for a new one?

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>>18836957
Not exactly, but close.

Is it new? Yes!

Does it involve actual ancient dieties? Yes!

Are their attributes and origins heavy modified in order to fit the narrow agenda of the movement? 100X yes...

Just my, not as humble as I would like, opinion...

>>18837003
While I don't care for Wicca, I keep seeing stuff about it being a bunch of fat lesbians...which may be true generally, but the ones I knew when I was younger were generally pretty attractive and not fat. Must be a regional curiosity.

>>18836957
Yes

>>18837043
I'd say it's arguable if they even existed. Evidence for Cernunos is sketchy at best and could be a reductionist way of describing many local forest dieties

Yeah. Meme magic far surpasses the watered down cuckmagic of wiccan.

>>18836957

>wicca
>wicca
>wicac
>wiacc
>waicc
>weicc
>we icc
>we ice

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>>18837060
>I'd say it's arguable if they even existed.
From what I can tell, the male figure is reminiscent of Nanna/Sin. The female form is almost certainly represented by Inanna/Ishtar.

Based on pure speculation of course.

>>18836957
yes.

>>18837067
Oh look, the shitposters have escaped their containment board... get your hazmat suits on!

>>18837111

trips confirm.

>>18837101
I know the guy who thought wicca up took influence from all over the place, so you may be right. From what I understand, wicca reduces old European Pagan (capital P) cosmology into a dominant lunar feminine goddess and a subservient male god, associated with nature or woodlands like Pan or Cernunos. Though there could certainly be Mesopotamian influence too.

The whole feminine goddess rules everything is why it's popular with the tumblr types, and the whole "witchcraft and pentagrams" thing makes it appealing to the emo teenager types.

It's funny, because there's pretty mich no mention of witchcraft in ANY old European polytheistic religion, it was just a middle ages-way to slander the old beliefs. The closest you have is Norse seior (not sure on spelling) but that was nothing like whatever wiccans believe

>>18836957
Scrapbooking for edgy soccer moms and failed men.

>>18837135
I mean, they might not use the word witchcraft, but it was definitely more than slandering anyone's beliefs. Chumbley has managed to revive a lot of that stuff...not that he has a lineage or anything, but it's based in fact and reality, which is hard to say about Wicca.

>>18836957
only wiccans i have met are obese vegetarians they aren't all like this right?

>>18837154
Any sources?

Not doubting you it just seems interesting

>>18837175

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

There's a whole Chumbley folder in here. You can also go over to the /omg/ thread and ask questions, there's a lot of knowledge to be had over there.

>>18837007
If she were, you wouldn't spell it with two Ks.

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>>18837135
>It's funny, because there's pretty mich no mention of witchcraft in ANY old European polytheistic religion

Of course not, because it was our religion. I still remember a handful of old chants for things like upper respiratory infections and bad luck.

Or singing old hymns while gathering mushrooms in the forest with my grandma.

Despite this we still went to church and wore crucifixes all while telling stories of heroic giants defending our motherland.

>>18837206
Are you eastern European?

>>18837209
Perhaps, why do you ask?

>>18837214
I just figured eastern Europe and the Baltics are probably the only areas where some of the old beliefs remain, and haven't been destroyed by Christianity or Islam

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>>18837217
I believe some of the old beliefs are still present in Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Germany to a lesser degree.

But you are right in saying that it never really died out in Slavic culture. It is currently seeing a fairly strong revival with the "nativist" movement.

And who can blame them?

I mean whats not to like about father frost and his daughter? Or primordial giants that will take on endless hordes of demons and monsters in order to defend the weak and innocent?

If only some of that chivalry could find it's way into the people running the country...

>>18837111
Praise kek!!

>>18837199
Look man, I don't give enough of a shit to know how to spell it.
Nice digits.

>>18837242
>you are right in saying that it never really died out in Slavic culture
It never really died out in Iceland, either, or parts of Great Britain. Those were among the last regions of Europe to fall to Christianity.

Mainland Europe is pretty cucked though.

Wiccan is just a bastardized conglomeration of "cool" and "edgy" religions made by hippies in the 60's. It's another silly new age "belief" for people with no confidence.

>>18836957
yes you faggot

It's new age bullshit

I'm tempted to dismiss it as new-age fluff.

But, I suspect the Wiccan path is rife with power, judging by how hard it triggers the right-wing weenies in this thread.

>>18837392
More proof that it's a SJW religion then.

Didn't you all try to curse Donald J. Trump, the president of the United States of America? Or as weak-willed people that think he's Voldemort have to say, 45.

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this thread

>>18836957
in italy its pronounced weecha

>>18837460
>SJW

I like how political considerations color your ideas about religion. Its like its all just a cover for you. Like it is for many others.

>inb4 YEAH LIKE SJW WICCANS
Projections are not real.

>>18837605
Nope lol. It's literally a "religion" adopted by sjw "gurls". Like, that's a religion that only has one option politically.

There are no libertarians on /x/. They're all too busy building roads.

>>18836957
Yes. They literally refer to themselves as pagan, a slur term used to discredit all non christian religions.
I assume that adopted this meme as a way to cope with the burning hole left in us when the jews stole from us our native spiritual bonds.

>>18837657
>letting your opinions about a religion be determined by the least common denominator
>thinking religions have political options
>irrelevant comment about libertarians

Will you just fuck off back to /pol/ already. Everyone can see you.

>>18837682
>They literally refer to themselves as pagan
I always imagined "pagan" was being used for a bit of ironic flair, sort of like how black people call each other the N word.

>>18837460
>>18837657
I totally called it, just so y'all know.

What's about the symbols they have ?

>>18837771
TRIGGERED

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>>18837799
The triple moon goddess symbol is pretty cool.

>>18837771
Never been to /pol/, I don't care for the cancer. Sucks to suck, but Wicca is as true as pastafarianism.

>>18837853
All Gods are worthy of Belief
If They should answer to Thy Call,
But aught that faileth to avail
Should swiftly out of Heaven fall —
Like Lead return'd unto the Forge
Where Magick turneth all to Gold —
To fake One Image of them All.

>>18837811
Pygmy.

>>18837848
I find it too, but what does it mean, i drew it unconsciously.

>>18837862
I love LOTR.

>>18836957
It's a watered down new-age religion, full of cringey adherents.
Go animist, or go home.

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>>18839412
>It's a watered down

This could very well be the result of their Goddess being disgusted with the values they espouse and attribute to her worship?

Or perhaps it is because they routinely associate and combine the Goddess with her oldest and most hated enemies?

>full of cringey adherents.

They are not doing the Goddess any favors in the public image department either.

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I don't think Ol 50of60 here is self-aware...

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>>18840565
Please expand on this, the concept of self-awareness comes in various forms.

It is entirely possible that I am delinquent in one form or many!

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>>18837047

It's more true in "Dianic" wicca. Outside of that, some can be pretty hot.

>>18837047
>>18837003
it's not a meme

I have an aunt who is a fat lesbian and her partner is also fat and they are wiccans

>>18837007

Jake?

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>>18837060
>Evidence for Cernunos is sketchy at best and could be a reductionist way of describing many local forest dieties

Not even likely to have been a forest deity. Here's a pretty good reassessment of Cernunnos from the author of "Deep Ancestors".

http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/therest/Cernunnos/cernunnospaper.htm

>>18837135
>but that was nothing like whatever wiccans believe

Of course it wasn't. Even though seidr was associated with the Vanir and the names of the two main Vanir deities - Freyr and Freyja - aren't names at all, but are titles that mean, literally, "Lord" and "Lady".

>>18840981
All wiccans are objectively either fat emo bitches or incredibly attractive thots, there is no in-between and there is no male Wiccans. These are facts.

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>>18837154
>Chumbley's schizoid incoherent babbling
>based in fact and reality

>>18837349

Shut up you ignorant fuckwit. It predates the 60s and the hippies.

>>18837545

So is the Old English word. It actually means a male sorcerer, wicce being the feminine form.

>>18841021
>there is no male Wiccans
The very first Wiccan I ever met was a male. He was also fat and virtually a basement dweller.

So, sorry Anon, take your obvious misogyny and go.

Let's try something new.

If your opinion of Wicca/Wiccans is overall negative, post what your occult practice and/or religious worldview is. If these may be described fairly succinctly (i.e. Thelema, Hermeticism, Heathenry, Christianity, etc.) please do so rather than explain in detail what you believe.

>>18836957
yes

>>18841439
>misogyny is bad meme

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>>18836957
>describing things as snowflake
You've got some personal things to work out before judging those around you, is what this says.

To answer your question though, yes. That is, in short. It draws from some very old and very powerful ideas, though. To practice it as "wicca" is to really miss out on the nuance of the wisdom this mask hides. To make things a little clearer, it's not Wicca alone that bellies these real magics. Wicca is just a more digestible adaptation of some important ideas. Take from this what you will. If nothing else, know that there is no one right belief system because all beliefs draw from different perspectives and ideas on different phenomena. You will never know it all, but you will know especially little if you devote yourself to only one line of thought.

>>18841526
>misogyny isnt bad and a low hanging fruit for retards meme

I'm a fetal alcohol syndrome baby. Please rape my urethra with a crowbar.