What is a Nephilim and why do they matter?

>>18815482
Its the opposite of succubus.

http://astral7ight.blogspot.com/p/nephilim.html

>>18815505
Thats an incubus friendo

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>>18815482
>I never get a straight answer on this, and pop culture just confuses things.

It doesn't matter because whomever wrote the Pentateuch was a fraud - there was never any Exodus or slavery in Egypt and the descriptions of magic tricks are obviously hocus pocus when real theologians of the time believed in natural omens like the fates and the flights of birds and the timing of thunderbolts - a belief that we cohabit the world with living spirits/gods/entities that manifest in natural omens.

However, the word occurs next to the phrase "Sons of God" which is used in several verses...

"The N’filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown." - Genesis 6:4

"“My decree is: ‘You are gods, sons of the Most High all of you. Nevertheless, you will die like mortals; like any prince, you will fall.’” - Psalms 82:6-7

"I [God] will be his [King Solomon's] father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor." - 1 Chronicles 17:13

"The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."" - John 19:7

My assumption is that "nephilm" and "sons of god" has something to do with the Imperial Cult Kings of the ancient world as the Hebrew Bible is nothing but a terror guide against Orthodox Paganism and because the Pentateuch is written as a diatribe against ancient Egyptian culture - one which is an untrue diatribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkU23m6yX04

Nephilim were the sons of God. They mated with human females, and they gave birth to giants, heroes, prophets and kings.
They were divine in nature, but God condemned to die a mortal death out of fear.
We, the humans, are not divine spawn. We are imperfect, treacherous and unloved. God was never on our side.
The sons and daughters of the spawn of the nephilim, however, are still fairly good in the eyes of God. They are tainted by the original sin that is mating with humans. This is the mark, the stain the bible talks about.
There are currently 13 "pure" (by theire standards) bloodlines descending from the nephilim. You can do some more research about this, but chances are that if no one has contacted you, you're not relevant. "13 lines of blood" ought to do it. You'll have to wade throught tons of ILLUMINETTI GUYS consipiracies. So be warned.
Eventually, the bloodline of the nephilim will be either completely dilluted, or destroyed. And there will be nothing left on this earth that God cares about.

Probably not the answer of worldview you like, but it is what it is.

>>18815569

>God was never on our side
>Sent the flood to kill the vast majority of Nephilim.
>Sent Jesus Christ to die for us so we could go through Him to avoid the punishment set to us by Adam, Even and the Serpents.

God has been on our side the entire time bozo. We're at war with other gods "fallen angels"

Quite simply, they are giant being that were created through the unholy union of women and angels. These beings were generally very evil and committed a lot of atrocities and sins back in the antediluvian age, so much so that there mere existence was an abomination. When God sent the flood to do away with the antediluvian age, He killed a great number of Nephilim with it. These beings had nowhere to go until judgement so they roam the Earth as spirits today, tormenting and harming people.

We know most of them today as demons.

The descendants of these Nephilim will come to rule a united world under one government peddling a universal religion which will unite the masses to commit atrocities against those who do not conform to this government and its religion.

Antichrist himself will arise from a Nephilim bloodline and then overthrow the world government to establish his own empire and thus bring the rebellion to a head.

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>>18815569
>They were divine in nature, but God condemned to die a mortal death out of fear.

You are so brainwashed by Judaism's bullshit. When are you people going to realize that book is and always has been a fraud? There was never a worldwide flood - there was never Egyptian captivity - there was never a talking burning bush or a plague of fire from the sky and Elijah never raised anyone from the dead and nobody was saved from burning to death in any furnaces.

The Hebrew Bible is deliberate blasphemy and the sooner you people wake up the sooner you can find your true gods again.

You chose this "fate" for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkU23m6yX04

See my post here: >>18815540

>>18815583
Spoken like a true pureblood human. Blind.

>God sent the flood to get rid of the nephilim
Elohim spoke with several of the most pure bloodlines and instructed them to construct boats or rafts.
The (incredibly exagerated) flood was to get rid of basically everything God didnt approved of. That was humans, basically. As they were (and are) treacherous, sinful and incomplete. Obviously, he didnt succeed. Mainly because the flood was not worldwide, it was basically sinking several key locations and raising the sea level a good chunk. The rest of the humans were fine, and they still were more than the Nephilim.

No wonder your human-written and human-translated bible pictures the Nephilim as evil devilspawn. No one likes to hear they are incomplete. That they are unloved. That the world religion is there to mask the fact that we are the closest thing there is to devils.
No wonder.

>>18815596
>implying i believe the bible is real
Boy, if only you've read my post.
The bible and the whole body of the abrahamanic religions are just a feel-good collection of lies. They are important tho. If people knew that they are not special they would flip.

>>18815602
>are just a feel-good collection of lies

I don't feel very good when I read it - it sounds like a serial killing psychopathic rapist wrote it.

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>>18815602
>They are important tho. If people knew that they are not special they would flip.

Better for them to learn it's a false god than to burn in hell for acting on its demands for terror, murder and rape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y-hfG-6OFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJjIgvNa6GY

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Settle down guys, people have been arguing over this stuff for a very long time, I think its highly unlikely the miraculous truth of it all will be settled for good in this thread. Op wants some info on the nephilim though so lets help them with as much source as possible.

>>18815482
Op, something that I found that fills in a lot of gaps in the bible, was the book of Enoch. The version in pic related is what I consider the best version as it not only has all three copies of Enoch, it also has other relevant scrolls aswell.

Other than the book of Enoch filling in the gaps regarding the Nephilim, it also brings up new understandings of the New Testament, given that although not considered canon now, it was during the writing of the New Testament and influenced a lot of the authors.

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>>18815622
>I think its highly unlikely the miraculous truth of it all will be settled for good in this thread.

Witches are real, talking burning bushes aren't. And that's all you need to know about whatever the author meant by "nephilim."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdOBjf33K5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVY-pGDsN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9IPNmIdQY0

>>18815665
I assume Op wants a bit more info than that considering witches and talking bushes have nothing to do with Nephilim.

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>>18815685
>considering witches and talking bushes have nothing to do with Nephilim.

Yes they do because they're all in the same worthless document.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G35Qu7H92_U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh1ntmee84A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9IPNmIdQY0

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Ok so, wouldn't they have all died during The Great Flood considering they're never mentioned again?

>>18815482
its a half human half angel. typically this allegedly produces a giant as the bible states. it is a abomination. the union between human and angel is condemned by the almighty

for any catholic it must be hard to understand that the bible itself implies angels have genitals and that the fallen allegedly want to make babies with the daughters of eve but you guys practically worship marry so your going to hell

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>>18815713

>for any catholic it must be hard to understand that the bible itself implies angels have genitals and that the fallen allegedly want to make babies with the daughters of eve but you guys practically worship marry so your going to hell

Spelling and grammar check
>>>For any Catholics; it must be hard to understand that the Bible itself implies that angels have genitals, and that the fallen angels (allegedly) wanted to make babies with the daughters of Eve. However, you guys practically worship Mary, so you're going to Hell.

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>>18815713
>its a half human half angel. typically this allegedly produces a giant as the bible states. it is a abomination. the union between human and angel is condemned by the almighty
>for any catholic it must be hard to understand that the bible itself implies angels have genitals and that the fallen allegedly want to make babies with the daughters of eve but you guys practically worship marry so your going to hell

And, yet, all of Moses' writings have been proven fraud like Jesus said they were - so I guess it doesn't matter what whomever wrote it thought he was writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEN16GHuwvg

>>18815755
Links?

I don't know anything about this topic but I think it would be mas wicked thinking to bring some topic of sin into this. I don't think any one is born in a certain special way, divinity can be claimed by any man. Mating would be beautiful and amazing when possible. A union between man and god, two angels, intertwined.

He did his research for true nerds and two birds, do a show, same time watch it, and guaranteed to give them more than just Hoch spit. :)

>>18815569
Please stop posting and leave this site.

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>>18815786
>A union between man and god, two angels, intertwined.

That's been done for centuries...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVY-pGDsN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9IPNmIdQY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYgpZiStdc

>>18816155
Yes but then you intertwine again with a woman which is where the magic happens

>>18816207
I don't claim to b a god, the very definition implies being above some thing. I claim my own divinity, the same one in every man. If you still care to talk I'll share some verses of my own when I get home

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>>18815786
>I don't think any one is born in a certain special way, divinity can be claimed by any man.

I wouldn't claim divinity unless you're damn sure - it's quite the game of Russian Roulette to say you're a god... You better be right that you're a god or there are no gods.

I am a god.

Human beings are under the delusion that they get to pick the gods and if they want the gods to be a mass-murderer's burning bush there are no consequences for that.

Psalm 82:6-7

“My decree is: ‘You are gods, sons of the Most High all of you. Nevertheless, you will die like mortals; like any prince, you will fall.’”

John 19:7

The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjCCJp9BqpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o

>>18816244
I don't fear other men, I love them like myself. I don't claim to be above and so I shouldn't be tested. No body should be. That's what happened to Jesus I bet. I live my life how I believe it and if others want to join me in my life style then go for it, free will is free will.

>>18816252
And to add Jesus probably got super fucked over by the people around him because there was no technology so he was at the complete whim of the hungry masses and was unable to properly convey himself. That's just my speculation.

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>>18816243
>I don't claim to b a god, the very definition implies being above some thing.

You probably wouldn't recognize a god.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXi2jE-Dxdw

>>18816285
Would you?

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>>18816270
>Jesus probably got super fucked over by the people around him because there was no technology so he was at the complete whim of the hungry masses and was unable to properly convey himself.

Jesus didn't get fucked over at all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS6J9fdL730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLET3qjNL8k

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>>18816294
>Would you?

Sure, any god could present evidence of such a claim....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyL033PCPpE

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>>18816294
>Would you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK4T73n9GbU

>>18816333
>>18816361
Haha oh my, my response was so lost on you. Nobody, no body, follows righteous arrogance like that.

Mathew 6:8, 7:7
Romans 8:28

Don't delude yourself into thinking you're something you're not. Just be.

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ITT: People citing biblical verse in order to debate faiths and civilizations that pre-date Christianity by tens of thousands of years.

Instead of citing Genesis, why not take the time to read the Enuma Elish?

>>18817058
Doesn't matter what you're citing, concepts and beauty hold true through all words.

>>18815596
of course there was a flood you dingus! you are inside the noah ark and what made the blood of kings so special then? of course you cant answer unless you say motherfucking aliens or xenomorphs wich they DO EXIST no matter if you believe or not

>>18815482
Okay, if you believe what the bible will tell you, they're basically part-human demigods born from pseudo angelic beings and humans. That doesn't reflect reality super well, but it's what the christians think.

>>18817058
people ha nonononono.this guy is a larping cicaroach faggot or a amateur wannabe truther who got all his acknowledge from some edgy free mason with zero balls to talk on public about much more greater stuff, the flood was very real and there is a grid on the sky from wich you can exist this place or from where they can come the dark rift or milky way, keep posting frogs you dingus wich you dont even know what they really mean and keep quoting half baked facts from stoopid movies and music videos and dont bring me the LEEE HE CANT SEE WHAT IS HIDDEN ON PLANE SIGHT
i tell you what motherfucker i can seee what you will never fucking seee not even when you fucking die you piece of shit ,things that not even your free mason faggots or le cathar wannabe religions will fucking tell you not even text make justice to truth dude not even hieroghlyps wich you will never ever understand if you got all of your acknowledge reading some fancy conspiranoic books or listen to some idiot larping on youtube ,get your fucking shit together or get the fuck out

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Yeah the nephilim are basically lower case "gods", even the Lord calls them that in the bible. They chose to leave the designated place/dimension in heaven and descended to the Earth. They are the gods of a lot of different indigenous peoples like the Mayans, Incas, Canaanites. They are created giants by mating with women and allegedly attempted to corrupt the entire humanities dna but were stopped by the flood in which the ark held some of the few remaining pure dna of humans and animals (the nephilim created hybrids). Since the flood, more of the corrupted angels have returned and continue to experiment in our dimension. Aliens abductions/experiences parallel demonic encounters throughout history. There was also a research group, CE5 I think, that recorded a vast amount of instances in which people escaped alien abduction/experimentation by calling out to Jesus and were almost instantaneously teleported back to our reality. Spiritual warfare, we battle not against flesh and blood but powers and principalities in high places, Satan himself is called the prince of the air. Jesus truly is the truth and faith in him and his sacrifice can save you from your sins and the designs of the devils

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>>18815597
The fact that at least one of you guys got it makes me somewhat sad for what is to come. If you have this much insight then you should be able to keep yourself safe if you care enough for it.

>>18817599
What exactly is to come? Iv done some digging and I know of a few theories but nothing seems concrete.

>>18817645
alien deception bringing pantheistic monism, thats what the nephilim push

>>18817058
You do know that the old testament is ancient Hebrew transcript right?

Jesus isn't some guy who came out of nowhere, in ancient Jewish lore there was to be a prophet and ultimate King of all ''chosen people'' and he has to be of the blood of judah. That's supposed to be who jesus is ''The king of Jews'' changed into ''king of men'' and now we have Christianity the way we have it. That's why it's so important for there to have been a population count and Joseph and Mary both being from Jerusalem and hence pure blooded Jews. It was in the prophecy for the chosen one in Jewish lore.

It was only around the 8th century when churches who saw jesus as only that, prophet and chosen one, began to die out but in the early days of Christianity it was actually blasphemy to even think that God would ever birth a child with a human.

>>18817672
>project bluebeam?
>implying the aliums aren't just underground dwellers that have been here all along but travel in UFO like ships

>>18817645
It's a test, what's the point of testing when you give out all the answers.
Once it's over, it'll be clear.

>>18815786
lol what's with the Doom lyrics

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>>18817685
I implied nothing about their dwelling in my last post, I think they're most likely extra or interdimensional I mean have you seen how fast and the right angle turns Ufos take? Anything known on Earth would be crushed by the G-forces suggesting its supernatural rather than earthly entities

>>18817735
Yes I've seen it even with my own eyes.
Those ships have been flying around for a very long time. Similar ships were seen over a 1000 years ago.

They claim to be extra or intra species but its all false claims. Or at least claims that can't be backed up.

Truth is nobody is really sure where they come from or what they are doing here.

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>>18815482
Maybe it is an alpha test for human genetic engineering.

The word 'angel' would be better translated as 'centaur', if you want to connect Greek mythology and the bible, ditto concurrent Judaica.

The distribution of blood type O, negative rhesus factor corresponds to the localities where humanoid gigantism was reported during ancient history.

The main popular mistake is that the belief in angels should be so anthropomorphic in our collective imagination.

pic related

>>18817735
>>18817819
The right angle turns are caused by a single thrust vector, orthogonal to the rotation of the earth. Imagine the craft as stationary, while the earth is moving beneath it. That is not a turn which requires two perpendicular thrust vectors, with one canceling out the extant velocity. The G-force calculation is most likely not correct, given my assumption about the propulsion.

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>>18817679
>You do know that the old testament is ancient Hebrew transcript right?

You know that "the old testament" is not really old at all. Neither are the Hebrews or any of the works they produced. This was the entire point of my post.

It is folly to merely make guesses at our spiritual origins by using "edited" source material. Especially when MUCH older texts have been translated and are available for your perusal. This material is responsible for the very existence of your faith.

product of a mating between fallen (or cast out) angels and humans. They're briefly mentioned in the bible in Genesis but are more thoroughly described in the Book of Enoch (which was considered a scripture during the early days of Christianity, today is part only in the Ethiopian and the Eritrean orthodox Christian bibles)
The book of Enoch states that Samyaza is their leader along with other 19 commanding angels each one commands 10 angels thus 200 in total. They though humanity the arts of war cosmetics etc., God saw this and did the flood (which is btw mentioned in at least 200 other cultures as a recorded world event) and eradicated the nephilim. Their corrupted souls awaiting judgement are known as demons.

>>18817844
Animorphs is talking about angels?
Okay, sure thing anon.

>>18818391
Check out centauromachy, and the history of Achilles.

There are some other pictures in Islamic art that I could show you.

>>18818206
I thought the same thing, but people are saying it was Aremic, not Hebrew. It's like beren... naww

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>>18818561
>Old Aramaic (900–700 BC)
>The Aramaic alphabet was widely adopted for other languages and is ancestral to the Hebrew, Syriac and Arabic alphabets.

The work in question can honestly be considered "new age" when compared to it's source material.

Many seem to exhibit an actual allergy to knowledge. This seems to be especially true when discussing the origins of god.

>>18818561
Different parts of the old testament come from different languages. And, the living language translations are all anachronistic. The book based on real records, but not so much the translation.

>It's like beren... naww

It is exactly like that, when an extremist group or bellicose government destroys preserved ruins or artifacts. Good job for noticing the real example.

>>18818206
Genesis was probably the starting point of Norse mythology, unless you believe that Prussia was wrong to annex Schleisswig-Holstein.

>>18818671
There are records in cuneiform, but then you are limiting yourself to mostly just the creation story.

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>>18818694
There is also an entire religion that bears a striking resemblance to the subject matter. But then we would have to delve into polytheism and many other topics forbidden in the Christian/Jewish faith.

>>18818745
If you want to talk about Yazdanism, Zoroastrianism, and Mithraism; then please go ahead.

They are not really polytheistic, just referencing angels. Prior to that, there are nameless cults.

These things are not forbidden, just very esoteric. The orthodoxy holds on to mistranslation as a means of continually accruing power.

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>>18818672
>Genesis was probably the starting point of Norse mythology

The Sumerian pantheon would beg to differ.

>unless you believe that Prussia was wrong to annex Schleisswig-Holstein.

I do not even know where to begin...

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>>18818763
>Prior to that, there are nameless cults.

The Sumerian empire and religious practices of the entire region are a little more than a "nameless" cult, no?

>These things are not forbidden, just very esoteric.

Like prayer? Or perhaps the celebratory rituals of all those co-opted holidays?

>If you want to talk about Yazdanism, Zoroastrianism, and Mithraism; then please go ahead.

Why not toss in Gnosticism or Manicheism for good measure. But, no I am not referring to any of the above.

>>18818765
When we have to use two words to describe the religion, it has a title without name.

>I do not even know where to begin...

Jews controlled the artillery calculations in those days. Always begin with a question if you feel confused.

>>18818792
>The Sumerian empire and religious practices of the entire region are a little more than a "nameless" cult, no?

Unless you have a name, you are probably ignoring Yazdanism, and maybe Zoroastrianism.

>Why not toss in Gnosticism or Manicheism for good measure.

Geography. Manichaeism is much further east, whereas Gnosticism is further west.

>But, no I am not referring to any of the above.

I do not mean to offend you, so you need not be elusive.

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>>18818809
>Unless you have a name, you are probably ignoring Yazdanism, and maybe Zoroastrianism.

No, I am quite familiar with both. Both appeared long after the Sumer had turned into rubble.

Perhaps the lack of a title speaks to the fact that it was the first faith and needed no title. It was the exaltation of God, the Son and Holy Ghost.

>Geography

I do not see how geography is pertinent to the subject at hand.

>>18818896
Yazdanism was concurrent, but the journal articles for that can be pricey.

>Perhaps the lack of a title speaks to the fact that it was the first faith and needed no title. It was the exaltation of God, the Son and Holy Ghost.

They are not trinitarian faiths. Religion, Science, and Government were not separate at that time: so you can argue that it should all be retroactively called 'Sumer'. I argue that those remains are merely a creed.

Geography separates archaeological findings, that is why we cannot amalgamate terms as you suggested.

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>>18818809
>>18818896

To add.

If you are truly interested, why not study Sumeria and its religious practices. It would answer many questions you may have.

>I do not mean to offend you, so you need not be elusive.

I am not offended at all and I do not intend to come off as, elusive. These talks allow me to say the things are not said often enough in the world today. If this results in inspiring just one person to become interested in the origins of God and mankind, then blessed are the words that brought them closer.

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>>18818942
>Yazdanism was concurrent

Yazdanism, did not exist in the time of Sumer. It does not involve the worship of Anu, Enlil or Enki. The 7 Angels do not directly align to the 7 Anunnaki, the 50 great gods or many of the other major elements of the faith.

With that said, I do find the Kurds to be a great people. They are brave and selfless in battle and deserve much respect. But like Christianity their faith is but a nob to it's ancient origins.

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>>18818954
I know what you are talking about; and I think you are under-informed about Yazdanism.

If you want to read about how it carries over into modern religions, then you should learn about the Persian side of it, namely the Yezidis.

This book might be helpful:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ql4BAwAAQBAJ

>>18818998
>It does not involve the worship of Anu, Enlil or Enki.

No, it does that specifically.

>The 7 Angels do not directly align to the 7 Anunnaki

You now have an argument with wikipedia, and Izady. You should buy this book if you would like to know more:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharafnama-History-Kurdish-Nation-1597/dp/1568590741

Long story short, Kurds were the original Aryans, and the original Jews. Religion starts at around the time they start to use those words.

I also have an argument with Izady, but only about his use of the term Iranian. He is only right to use that word as an aegis. I still honor him as an academic, and urge you to read his book if you are interested in the subject.

>>18819038
>>It does not involve the worship of Anu, Enlil or Enki.
>No, it does that specifically.
Interesting. If this is indeed the case, then I am uninformed.

>Religion starts at around the time they start to use those words.
>You should buy this book if you would like to know more:
>I still honor him as an academic, and urge you to read his book if you are interested in the subject.

I will definitely do that.

From what I understand or thought I understood of Yazdanism. Is that it centers on the worship of a peacock angel that created them and the world. The peacock is one of seven angels. The angels properties do resemble the Anunna gods, in ways. But the creation story is different, to put it mildly.

Thank you for info.

>>18815597
You hate yourself.
You are wrong.

>>18819357
>Is that it centers on the worship of a peacock angel that created them and the world.

Melek Taus is an archangel, not the creator.