What did Kubrick mean by this? This always bothered me because

I would also like to know an explanation to this. Always disturbed me as a pre-teen

It's fursex, duh. Read the book if you want to know more.

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>>18806389
Hard to know.

It's from a cut section of the original novel. The cut section details several instances of terrible deaths that occur in the hotel over many years before the Torrances show up.

In one of them, set in the fifties or sixties, there's a corporate Halloween costume party. There's a closet homosexual there who dresses as a dog. He gets too drunk, and makes fool out of himself. Then he returns to his room and fantasizes about his boss. Ends up OD'ing and drowning in the bathtub.

So yeah, it's a real part that Stephen King wrote, but Kubrick made it very effective just with this weird allusion, and making the audience wonder.

>>18806440
Thanks, so it's not true that it's some kind of cult reference as some claim?

>>18806389
it means he wanted people to watch spaceballs for more clues to the faked moon landing

>>18806440
you are my hero, I'd put a dog costume on and blow you right now if I could

>>18806462
Nah. In fact you can read the cut sections online somewhere, that's how I know. It's fairly mundane and boring though, you can see why he cut it.

>>18806468
I appreciate that, anon. You're welcome.

it means child molestation if u google it

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>>18806463

>OP hasn't read the book

The dog man was a [spoiler] homosexual [/spoiler]

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>>18806389
http://www.collativelearning.com/the%20shining%20-%20chap%2017.html

>>18806440
>>18807988
Kubrick only used that which would serve his own narrative from the materials he took his stories from. King himself was outraged that he changed and left out so much, particularly about Jack's alcoholism since that was what the book was about and it was quite a personal topic for him. Anyway, the book sucked and King's miniseries really fucking sucked.

>>18807998
>particularly about Jack's alcoholism since that was what the book was about and it was quite a personal topic for him
A down on his luck alcoholic writer. How original.
Jack confirmed for literal self insert OC.

>>18808024
King was never subtle about Jack being based on himself, he's admitted before in interviews that The Shining was mostly about his struggle of being an alcoholic father.

>>18806389
>This always bothered me because it feels so out of place.
That's exactly what it meant.

but also >>18806440
this

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>>18806440
Stephen King wrote some good shit but damn he's a degenerate pervert.

The Illuminati is Evil, OP.
Find Christ.
Do not make it find you.
>Omnisex

wow these faggots copied 30 seconds to mars the kill music video wtf

>>18806389
I think I've seen a video on this before. I don't think it mentioned anything >>18806440 said, but instead, something about this being a reference of sorts on one of the people Kubric knew, probably ba producer or an executive of sorts related to the movie. I don't think I'll be able to find the video.

>>18806389
>>>/tv/

>>18808302
>he's a degenerate pervert
As if the child orgy at the end of It didn't already proved that.

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>>18806440
His stories bring out a feeling others don't. Like something is approaching, getting closer to you as the story unfolds. Like your lining up with something you wouldn't otherwise see. A world where all of these things are actual. Made real by belief.

there's a film on Netflix called Room 237 exploring a lot of the weird theories and aspects of Kubrick's adaptation.

apparently the architecture / geometry of the movie set doesn't make sense, and the hotel couldn't have been a real place. Like there are windows where an exterior wall couldn't exist, or a character will take 4 right turns and not be facing the direction they started, etc.

but yeah, some of the unexplained stuff the mom sees in the end of the movie when the ghosts all start going apeshit, that's not Kubrick, that was King's book, and there just wasn't time in the movie to fill out all the backstory so it's left as a surreal mystery.

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>>18806463
> spaceballs
> clues to the faked moon landing

You either kek'd at that or you didn't read it.

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Still my favorite movie version of King. The theme at the beginning. The mist on the maze. If you invert the colors of the opening title, the colors match the rug in the hotel. Kubric was awesome.

>>18808024
A lot of King's characters are self-insert. Gets kind of annoying after a while.

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>>18806463
Back to /pol/.

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>>18809082

>>18809058
What is supposed to be happening in this gif?

>>18809082
>Still my favorite movie version of King
Only way you'd have a contender is if Kubrick had made two of them.

>>18809455
Illustration of the chemical interactions within a cell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zD3NxSsD8

>>18806440
A quote from the book, as the dogman chases Jack down the hallway: "I'll huff, and I'll puff, and I'll BLOOOOOOOWWWW YOUR DICK OFF!"

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The Apollo mission hidden throughout the entire movie. Yay or nay?

>>18809455
Sisyphus in your body.

>>18809578
>Sisyphus

Keep rollin'

>>18806440
This; Kubrick is very good at implicit world-building. He understands that in film, visuals don't always need concrete answers, just something to make you wonder.

>>18809067
Some of those examples of improbable geometry are making some assumptions that some scenes and cuts are all in real time when they may not have been.

But really, it was just meant to be confusing and disorienting to build a feeling of uneasiness.

>>18806440
mind = blown

>>18809082
Damn!, i didn't know about the inverted colors

>>18808572
There's all sorts of videos about The Shining, but they're filled with absolute bullshit.

like

>>18809067

I'm sure somebody saw this scene and didn't know anything about King's original draft, so they just made up a bunch of shit.

>>18808302
yes, the palm tree knows all

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>>18807998
This is my favorite scene from the entire movie.
In the movie, Jack Torrence drives a Red VW. In Kubrick's movie, he places a VW crushed under an tanker truck. It's kind of symbolic of how this is HIS movie, not him making a movie for King.

>>18809058
I don't know about that. I think King's real strength is that he has a very natural, conversational writing style. It's like he's in the room with you, telling you the story.

>>18809082
>believing this was in any way intentional

My God, you faggots are autistic

>>18811449
Caught you Stephen king!!! Thought you could sneak afound here?

>>18811449
mr king pls

>>18811751
Don't get me wrong. Half of the plots he comes up with are garbage. But he writes them well.

>>18807998
king is a hack

>>18811589
how would it not be intentional? you know nothing

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtfTwqBfxgo
Found this after watching The Shining, I never realized it would be such a good movie

Probably the best movie Ive seen considering how few I have watched

Does "The Caretaker" have something to do with Jack? The music sounds familiar even though I've never heard it before and Jack was the Caretaker all along wasn't he?

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>>18809516
It's a pretty good theory.

>>18812216
Look closely for the body.

>>18811589
I got it off an entire site dedicated to this film. Kek. Not even my discovery. People come in ten hours later and Monday morning quarterback.

>>18811449
>>18812370
You've got it completely backwards. His plots are genius but they're let down by his bullshit dialogue. They also start strong and end up in a fucking mess 1000 pages later.

>>18809473
Maybe. Its true that there are many badly filmed King stories. But the Shining isn't seen as much more than what it is. Other than by Kubric fanatics.

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>>18809082
There's also this.

>>18813642
The Shining is considered one of the greatest horror films of all time by everyone.

>>18806440

It's no wonder Kubrick cut this shit and the movie is a million times the product the novel is. King is such a shit fucking writer.

My interpretation is the hotel and mannerisms of the hotel bend the will of man and nature to its base pleasures, kind of like Jack and when he went crazy. Thats just me though.

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They're just midgets with old guy hair, they're ugly.
And they can fuck yo bitch.

If you don't do anything fast, CONTRACT.

It's Wendy discovering that Jack sexually abuses their child

>>18809082
They don't really match to be honest family.
It's one thing noticing the subtleties some authors/directors put in their stories but there's no need to take it too far.

>>18813637
>His plots are genius
So get this. There's a car, and it comes to life and kills people.
Okay, no. Telephones turn people into vegetarian zombies.

>>18806402
There's absolutely nothing like that in the book.

>>18815245
Dude is in a fursuit, is he not?

>>18813622
Never noticed before, any insight as to why it's so hidden?

>>18811415
True story.

He grew to hate King in one fateful moment right before filming was wrapped.

He'd never actually -read- all of the Shining. When he finally got to the end he became enraged and called King in the middle of the night in a fury. Something at the end of the book about Jack's redeemed spirit watching over Danny just triggered the shit out of him.

Never spoke to King again.

>>18815267
Sauce?

>>18815275
I'm looking.

Here is this where King talks about part of that same discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U77Fn0OxAR4

>>18815265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7-GKHM5HZ8

Rob Ager. He's the go-to man for Kubrick analyses that don't involve moon landing conspiracies. If you do want that, look up Jay Weidner.

>>18814862
I was thinking mostly about The Stand. I've read a few more of his novels but I prefer his short stories since he doesn't get a chance to fuck them up too badly. Haven't read anything of his in many years though.

>>18815545
lol there's nothing inherently scary about this and yet my skin is crawling just watching this video god damn.

>>18815548
I really prefer King's books when he was 'Richard Bachman.'

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>>18815563
Thinner was badass.

>>18815571
Yeah, and The Long Walk. Jesus, that one had me confused, angry, and really into it. Seriously, all the Bachman stories I could get much more into and felt stronger than many of his ones under King.

>>18806389
Kubrick knew about furries before most of us did. It was a warning.

>>18806389
>What did Kubrick mean by this? This always bothered me because it feels so out of place.
took me 35 years to realize it was a allegory to gay furry sex, and realizing it just makes it more disturbing

>>18812835
That's beautiful. Thanks, I hadn't heard of that musician. Will look for more of his work.

This is an interesting little compilation of the old 1930s ballroom songs used by Kubrick in the film. I actually have an old 1940s set of 78 records of Ray Noble and his orchestra. I love the pop music of that era. So romantic and dreamy, it's like music from another world compared to the pop of today. It seems to me that a very different species of human being made that music than the people who walk the earth today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZV-Vaq5G8I&index=18&list=RDdtfTwqBfxgo

>>18815615
This.
Not even memeing.