Why is this concept so difficult for Christians to grasp?
Whoa, you're so cleverly obtuse OP.
>>18740803
sup reddit
>>18740803
I am not an atheist. I am unitarian.
>>18740806
I am not an atheist.
I believe in One absolutely transcendent God.
Three distinct persons but all have the same nature, that is, God.
>>18740860
ONE very ambiguous verse might hint at a three part God if you look at it sideways. Do you even know the verse?
>>18740860
>>18740860
This is verbal gymnastics.
These co-called "persons" appear to be three distinct beings.
The burden of proof is on you to show how they can be one being.
And no more Christian theological terminology. The whole point of this discussion is to show that Christian terminology is designed to hide a logical contradiction.
>>18740880
>verbal gymnastics
>one sentence
>rebuttal requires 5
oh, okay
>>18740860
This is true
Three controlling entities that you could call "God"
Two male one female
>>18740871
Acts 2:33
-- Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
----
This is about the rescurrection, as a verse it barely makes sense. This verse is used to prove the God/Jesus/Holy Sprit idea. Seems The Bible could have explained it better if that was the case, had a whole huge holy book to do it in, but No. This verse is it.
>>18740887
Is this it or is a proper response coming?
>>18740899
It appears to me that Christians are reading into the texts concepts that aren't apparent to anyone else. Only people who find trinity in these texts are the ones who already believe in it.
It means
Father = The one having the dream, outside the dream (The one simulating)
Son = Inside the dream, the one experiencing the dream.
Spirit = As the dream, everything is a thought of God.
All the same exact entity.
:^)
>>18740880
>argue your point but you have to do it from my perspective of 'treat everything this guy says with incredulity and ridicule it regardless of whether it can be refuted' oh what's that you can't? haha looks like I win again christfags BTFO
If you won't accept the revealed truth of the Bible as the word of God then you're not going to have a constructive conversation about the validity of its contents with someone who does
Not even religious you're just being a fucking idiot and wilfully ignoring the context of the argument
>>18740912
Scumboy making shit up again and expecting others to believe it because he has a trip... whoa.
>>18740880
Barashet bara, Elohim. Genesis 1.1.1 (Hebrew)
Heru-aset (Horus the Younger) Heru-wer (Horus the Elder), Ra-sum. (Egyptian)
Abracad abra, Alakazam. (Arabic)
The Younger comes before the Elder.
The Son comes before the Father.
Logoverse, Universe, transition.
Energy, matter, causality.
Sometimes...sometimes it's the other way around, it depends on God's mood.
Genesis 1.1.1. is all the evidence for the trinity needed.
The sum is not 1+1+1
But the square root of 1, being -1, and the cube root of 1, being i, the imaginary unit, roughly -0.333
>>18740899
>The Bible could have explained it better if that was the case
Literally the first verse, the first line sp3lls it out for you.
Indeed, the bara can be interpreted as tara, that is three.
Threeset Three, Elohim.
Trust True, Elohim.
3 set 3, Elohim.
The first line of the Bible.
>>18740922
03/07/17 3:37 on the dot.
https://youtu.be/kEl5RvbGdik
>>18740918
Guessing this is what you're referring to with your odd notation:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
How you get mumbo-jumbo like: "Heru-aset (Horus the Younger) Heru-wer (Horus the Elder), Ra-sum. (Egyptian) " is puzzling. I think all it proves is people can make up interpretations about anything if they feel the desire to.
>>18740915
I think no body reading the bible will find the concept of Trinity in it unless that person is already committed to the idea.
The concept is being read INTO the text by trinitarians.
>>18740922
It's the 22 of Revelation
>>18737022
>>18740935
It's the Hebrew!
The Son, the Father, the Ruach Elohim (And then everything else, Heaven and Earth)
As clear as day.
Let there be light.
No more discussion.
3 set 3 and that is that.
Circle = centre, diameter, pi
Three defining qualities.
Omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent.
One Perfection.
>>18740795
GOT TO BE GOOD LOOKING CAUSE HE'S SO HARD TO SEE
The Realm of Cognition, Logoverse, of dreams and prophecy and consciousness came before the material Universe.
Or it didn't.
The beginning changes all the time.
The Ruach Elohim, the Holy Spirit switches the two, to and thro.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God.
Heruaset
HRST
Christ.
Any more doubt?
The Hebees could have been wrong, of course.
But they're the go to guys for monotheism, so if their Bible says (333, Heaven and Earth). Then who are we to argue.
> How doe this work
> am I doing this right ?
> sorry OP I am ussing your shitty thread to practise
>>18740795
>water
>ice
>steam
how can one molecular compound be all three?? checkmate Xtians.
>>18741021
There was a word.
Then it allowed some clay to name some critters so the clay could get a feel for word's power.
But once the humans put all their words together in a pile and made a tower they were shown the real power of words turned to gibberish.
One word created
Many words divided.
>>18741073
Scumboy uses a different name/trip as a sockpuppet to praise his own post.
Sunset came before Sunrise.
Atum-Ra came before Khep-Ra.
Omega before Alpha.
End before Beginning.
And the End is One One One.
>>18740908
It originates either in the Jewish or Canaanite mystic traditions. It is encoded in the first line of Genesis. Golden Age QFT.
>>18741083
Not quite, where would be the gain?
You are so cynical anon. No one bothers to praise each other and it should be so.
>>18741077
If you do not know the word, then cease from speculating its existence. You only serve to create more gibberish.
I almost forgot.
Bereset bara, Elohim, ha Sammayim wa Eretz.
B3r3s3t b3r3, 3Lohim, Ham Sandwich.
Essentially, welcome to Paradise, eat of the Tree of Life.
The Flesh wrapped in Logo bread.
Jesus was a messenger, the jews later obfuscated the christian mythology to be about a trinity.
>>18740795
Well, water can be solid liquid or gas. Three different physical forms of different physical properties but with exactly the same chemical properties.
I mean, im not a religious person but this idea is very easy to grasp.
>>18740795
Because they aren't interested in truth, they only care about believing.
>>18740795
Simples
>>18741423
So you're saying that god is not a person, but a property possessed by 3 different people? Or are you saying there there is one god who transforms himself into each of these?
>>18741452
When was god ever a person?
A property can be possessed by 3 different people, such as height. I don't think you quite fully understand the meaning to the words you are using and have a tenuous grasp of the English language.
He is saying how its possible for some matter to possess different forms. So its not wild to think God can do whats actually possible in reality.
I'm not religious but you really need to fix your interpretation skills.
>>18741452
God is inherently causal. THE Creator.
It is the nature of God to act, to create.
Therefore completion, bereset, set being a Hebrew word meaning, to complete, to seat, to settle, which is the instanteneous perfection of God's action. (Logos)
The action itself, the breath, the life, the pneuma, the spirit, the Ruach.
And God, the Father, in and of himself, Perfect, bara paxi, in Peace, in agreement, with consent, creating.
Creator creates, has created.
I say, I do, I have done it (then the Cosmos)
Forest fire, Elohim
Breast bare, Elohim
Blessed full, Elohim
Forgetful, Elohim ;)
Therein lies the mystery of the game of life. Don't you remember?
PRXT PR, RXM, XMTM RT
Proceed for, a reason, sometimes right.
I've done hundreds of iterations of the first line. I've barely gotten past the Garden segment.
1 2 3/4, (6 and 8)
1 is M
2 is T
4 is R
When you go from T to R, Thor, Three, like a lightning bolt, comes out of nowhere.
>>18741589
R is EL
Therefore
One Two R is four
And four is bara, PR
So....
Mother
Breast
Bare
For Son
An iterative process of self-definition
Infinite energy and creative potency, encoded in Genesis 111
I know it sounds mad, but I've done the working out.
3 threads, a book and Cicada 3301
>>18689942
>>18741477
It would help if he'd post an actual argument and not some ambiguous gif. If he's saying that god is just taking on different forms then that contradicts traditional christian dogma.
>>18740795
A=B=C
A+B+C=/=A or B or C
>>18740795
you never heard of the christian trinity?
father, son, holy ghost
1+1+1 - trinity
>>18742360
Way to not read the thread.
>>18740880
>trying to equate logic and religion
>trying to use logic to explain religion.
Good luck OP!
>>18740922
The first WORD. BERASHITh
>>18741880
The post you replied to is in pretty clear English.
>>18740795
You forgot the observer, the centre point of the triangular equasion.
>>18740795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vSp5nSZGc
>>18740795
>Christians
Stop.
The trinity is primarily believed by Catholics and SOME other denominations of Christianity. Saying that the trinity is something Christians on the whole believe in is just goddamn wrong.
>>18740899
That picture is fucking cool
>>18744172
It's by Salvador Dali
>>18740890
hot.