How do you explain this, Anon?

>>18731202

Go back to school.

>>18731202
Never seen a moon before.

>>18731218
Or go outside, in this case it will also work.

Same thing that happens with a magnifying glass

Sun light is being magnified onto the moon, causing it to shine.

>>18731202
that's the moon nigga

>>18731202
Flatearth.

>>18731202
Anyone can explain this. The sun reflects off of the moon. That's all you are seeing. It's part of the rotation.

>>18731247
aka
>the conspiracy theory to discredits conspiracy theorists

It's another proof that the Moon is not illuminated by the sun, it has its onw light

>>18731253
Are you autistic?

>>18731254
Moon emits light that is "cold".

>>18731202
Also, night and day at the same time.

Explain this you indoctrinated globetard fucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdBR3tDXyVw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog

>>18731267
the clip from op is not a sundog, shill

>>18731267
Another autist.

>>18731263
That's in Alaska, so nothing wrong with night and day simultaniuslly

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>>18731279

>>18731269
I could also call it a 'mysterious floating sun like weird thing' or something but I like the term sun dog better. Don't be so triggered man, the fact that its on wikipedia doesn't mean it's a 'normal' phenomenon or anything. People have been mystified by sun dogs for millenia and they still are. Like so many things, the mystery is just shrouded in scientific sounding language nowadays.

>>18731325
You refuse to accept that what you're looking in op on the right is in fact ((((the Moon))))

>>18731325
Are you really fucking stupid?
Gtfo with your 60 IQ.

>>18731325
Can you explain how this >>18731263
is possible in the heliocentric model?


I've heard several contradicting opinions and i'm curious of what you think.

It makes perfect sense in the geocentric model.

Calling sun dogs mysterious has gotta be the most asinine thing I've read on /x/ all week, and calling the thing in that clip a sun dog to begin with takes second place easy.

>>18731202
#nocurvature

>>18731263
Fucking hell not another flat earth related thread. Gtfo you dumb fucktards, don't start with your bs 20 iq shit here.

>>18731404
I missed the part where you were explaining how it's possible to night and day at the same time, on the globe earth.

You're not purposefully avoiding the question, are you?

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>>18731404

>>18731404
Someones getting desperate.

LOL,Flattards Space Pizza attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw

>>18731412
I don't bother trying to explain shit to flatards. Would be like trying to teach a monkey to play chess. Go back to fucking your cousin you inbred trailer park autist.

>>18731546
Stay mad globetard

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>almost full moon

>>18731546
great vocabulary, you've won the debate

>>18731370
Geocentric model wad never properly disproved. It was only replaced with helio because equations work better with it.

Actually I think both models could work from math point of view at the same time.

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMkHrmAgzY&lc=z12cvxuxnnz0xr5ou04ccppiutbzizigt0c

Holy shit.. am I really the first person to post the words "lens flare" in this thread?
If you guys are not able to figure that out then you are not qualified to evaluate even the most basic optic visual crap.

>>18731827
Because it's not a lens flare, it's the damn moon.

>>18731780
If you are willing to math hard enough, any location can be defined as the "center of the universe."

>>18731880
that's obviously a sundog reflection you retard
>>18731546
THIS
you flat earthers are so fucking annoying with your nonsense, i would literally murder every single one of you if i could

>>18731254
How? The sun is shining on the moon and the moon is reflecting it back to us.

What's the part you don't understand?

>>18731370
The sun is down and the moon is up. That means it's night time. It's not day and night.

The horizon is still light because the sun is just below the horizon.

This is what happens at sunset. Anybody can see this, at any latitude. Go outside on a clear night and watch the sunset. Yes, that would mean going outside.

>>18731202
Man I wish the moon was in a different phase in this clip, it would have been the nail in the coffin for the globe model.

Take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3-fgBLZcUA

>>18731263
that is cool but it doesnt prove the earth is flat lolol

Fucking globetards..

>>18732167
No it's not, it's the moon.

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>>18732167
This guy is autistic af.

Yeah it's bad enough that there are people so stupid that they think the earth is flat.

But there are people who know it's round but don't understand the round earth model enough to explain it properly.

>>18732210
Right, but it's not going to be in a different phase, because the model isn't wrong.

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>>18732226
To all globers: on the solar eclipse in August, thousands of powerful cameras (for example Nikon P900, 83x optical zoom) will be pointed to the sky.

This will be the day when the heliocentrism will fall, because during the eclipse the Moon will be visible waay off from the sun, in a different part of the sky.

Expect heavy chemtrails all over the US on 8/21, but hopefully they will fail to cover everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyi_zGv0TOk

>>18732292
>because during the eclipse the Moon will be visible waay off from the sun, in a different part of the sky.

Well yes. If you're not in the path of the eclipse, the moon won't cover the sun. For the millions of people who are in the path, it will. Fortunately for me, I'll be right in the center.

And yes, there will be thousands of pictures. And when you put them all together, taking notice of their angles, longitude, latitude, etc. it will all be more proof of round earth.

>chemtrails

You mean contrails, anon. Airplanes will behave as normally.

>>18732308
You sir, are an autist.

>>18732308
>he can't see the difference between chemtrails and contrails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZFNJplylns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc

>>18732338
No, those are all contrails.

The differences are due to their age and their altitudes.

>>18732347
Retard, contrails last for a few seconds, chemtrails for over an hour.

If you're going for bronze angels theories, next time you have a headache why not try boring a hole in your skull with a rock to relieve the pressure.
Dumbass flat earthers

>>18732351
Wow, specular reflection off the ocean. Never seen that before.

>>18732359
Contrails can dissipate instantly or last for many hours, depending on humidity and temperature and barometric pressure.

As different altitudes have different humidities, temperatures, and pressures, contrails can have different durations in the same sky, which is what you're seeing in your video.

Indeed, this has always happened as long as airplanes have existed.

Being surprised by this is kinda like being shocked that the moon can sometimes be out during the day time. Very stupid.

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>>18732372
Found the shill. Be careful people

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>>18732386

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>>18732389

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All rockets crash in the ocean, none ever goes to 'space'

>>18732386
But that anon wasn't the one sliding.
It was the flatty he was replying to.

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>>18732417
Exactly what a shill would say

>>18732410
fisheyeboys

>>18732431
I mean all these pics with flat lines.. Probably not high enough to see the curvature if there even is one

>>18731202
Fucking retard, your not even close to see a curvature while on a plane. Think about it, you can see a slight curvature beginning at approx 100 km high, planes usually stay at 11km.
>>18732415
>What is orbit

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>>18732432
Yes, the only way to see earth's curvature is through GoPro cameras.

>>18732440
cuck, video is not about curvature

>>18731202
BUT IF THE EARTH IS A GLOBE HOW CAN YOU SEE THE SUN AND MOON AT THE SAME TIME?

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>>18731202
So wait, I thought that flatearthers say all evidence with a window is false because it's curved, but they're allowed to use it when it "proves" their point?

i am confus

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These are your priests and bishops

>>18732462
Places on the Earth north of 66.5 degrees will never see the part of the ecliptic that is in Sagittarius (even though some parts of the constellation that are above the declination of -23.5 degrees may be seen depending on the latitude of the place). Hence, if you are at a latitude of say 80 degrees, the Sun will be above the sky all day during summer and the Moon will never rise during full moon.

However, the Moon's orbit is inclined to the ecliptic by about 5 degrees which is the reason why we do not see a solar eclipse during every new moon. Hence at latitudes close to 66.5 degrees, one might be able to see the Sun and the full moon for a very short time simultaneously if the geometry of the Moon is just right. However, the Sun and the full moon will be on opposite portions of the sky and so nobody will be able to photograph it unless there is an exceptional camera that can take a picture of the entire sky.

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>>18732496

>>18732464
Why would the cockpit windows be curved?
You are fucking stupid.

>>18732504
that proves nothing

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>>18732508

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>>18732516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN8yhUzqLCA

>>18732516
are you implying those light rays arn't parallel because they are... or do you not understand perspective

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>>18732496
WRONG

>>18732526
Did you see that yesterday?

>>18732526
that probably a satalite

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>>18732538
nigga do sattelites be visible in the daytime?

>>18732526
nice dead pixel.

These things never show up on two different cameras.

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>>18732538
these are your sattelites

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>>18732524
you say that rays are parallel? just matter if perspective¿? seriously?

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>>18732547
>sattelites

>>18732538
Implying there are satellites.

>>18732544
Shillerino.

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>>18732386
>>18732389
>>18732403
>>18732407

>>18732364
Claiming the Earth is round is literally an idea conceived in the bronze age, fucking retard.

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>>18732550

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>>18732550

>>18732572
The train's destination is not above the ground, but rather far away, and perspective means that the tracks appear not to be parallel but instead to converge to the vanishing point.

The same applies to the beams of light above them. The Sun is very far away and the beams are pretty much parallel, but they're pointing towards you, and perspective makes them appear to converge towards the vanishing point - which in this case is the Sun's location in the sky

>>18732569
>>18732572
Fucking love pictures like this!

>>18732578
If sun is 93 million miles away, it cannot make sunrays like that

>>18732588
Yes it does so.

>>18732602
You must have IQ of 60.
Fucking autist.

https://youtu.be/S4oT2EbDONs

Makes me think

>>18732626
be nice dude

>>18732626
actually I have an Iq of 143 and a degree in physics my good chap.

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>>18732656
Well.. that explains your level of brainwashing.

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>>18732692
be gentle

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>>18732656
Actually you're just a lying indoctrinated piece of shit

>>18732777
Well they have. Furthur we can map the motion of stars through the cosmos relative to the sun through the relativistic Doppler effect.

>>18732819
Source

We live in the matrix. I wanna be a special snowflake. I am not in the plug. I will post matrix quotes to make my point. The earth is flat until it gives me enough attention from random people!
>Earth is flat
>We are the center of our solar system
>Human are special
>There is no life out there
>Universe is 10,000yo and it was created by a god. My god, not yours.
Oh boy, can't wait to see what will be the next "Give me attention" topic. Keep the flat keks for me.

>>18731202
I bet you think the erratically moving "dot" is a ufo too?

>>18732857
10k years old?
What the fuck mate.

>>18732857
You are assuming every flat earther is a religious fanatic.
You are wrong.
Geocentrism of course implies itelligent design, but i'm convinced the designers/creators of this realm have nothing to do with the fairitales of allah/yahwe/god/krishna

>>18732839
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Relativ/reldop2.html

>>18732884
I am assuming that you can't even get that every line is a different topic. Do you even read?
>I am wrong because you can't even read
Smart anon is smart.

>>18732968
Smart car is smart.

>>18732968
Hahaha you filthy shill think you can drag me into your sliding?

You can slide this thread and and a few of the next ones (which will come up every day btw), but you can't stop the awakening.

Stay mad, keep tracking the iss and bounce laser beams off the moon lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQpVDqwnyY

Scott Kelly really lost his mind, I used to respect him but after seeing this I'm fucking done with him

>>18733006
haha never change /x/

>>18732520
yeah this vid blew my mind at the end

>>18733068
Thats the best you could come up with?

Can't leave the Van Halen belt of radioactive 80s rock

https://youtu.be/zWoXbMvfvtU

>>18732885
>>18732819
he meant source to the constellations changing you moron

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THIS THREAD SI FUCKING INSANE I AM SO FUCKING WOKE RIGHT NOW

mostly thanks to all the shills lmao

NASA employees caught buying child porn from site which showed three-year-olds being abused - but they escape prosecution and now their names are being kept secret

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184951/NASA-employees-caught-buying-child-porn-site-showed-three-year-olds-abused-escape-prosecution-names-kept-secret.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3ssarv/nasa_employees_caught_buying_child_porn_have/

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/08/nasa-employees-caught-buying-kiddie-porn-3047282.html


https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-many-nasa-employees-have-been-busted-for-watching-porn-at-work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ArzXtH_QQ

>>18733124
What the fuck?
But why.

>>18732504
>>18732516
>>18732569
>>18732572
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

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>>18733127
Haven't you ever studied the gore threads on /b/? No different from that

>>18733127
none of those are credible sources, anon.

>>18733143
Are you saying that the alphabet soups are credible?
Gtfo shill.

>>18733106
>the source to the constellations

The source of the constellations is the arrangement of stars. And yes, as the links show, the positions of the stars change. It's just that they change slowly.

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>>18733141
>send slink to an experiment that proved that the universe was mental (it's delayed version)

in response to pics of the sun being close by


Watcha doing?

>>18732588
see
>>18732572

>>18733171
I know im a flatearther...
You should use your eyes more.

>>18733161
googling and apparently for the changes to be visible it would take hundreds of thousands of years

fucking lmao sure it would

>>18732547
>>18732538
get rekt shill

>>18733182
Well yes, of course it takes a long time. The stars are very far away, and compared to those distances, the earth would move very slowly.

How long would you expect it to change?

Show your math.

'They found that the angle was somewhat different from the "perfect match" claimed by Bauval and Hancock in the Orion Constellation Theory. They estimate 47–50 degrees per the planetarium measurements, compared to the 38-degree angle formed by the pyramids.[10]

Krupp also pointed out that the slightly bent line formed by the three pyramids was deviated towards the north'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_correlation_theory
When they were built the pyramids lined up perfectly with Orion but now they dont.

>>18732857
fuck off shildren

>>18733200
>makes claim showing no math
>"show your math"

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>>18733167
you fucking idiot it literally shows how on a micro scale how light waves travel through slits on a perpendicular plane, the same scale applies when the distance and disproportion between sun and the earth is so huge that the vectors of light are basically parallel, with the addition of the higher atmosphere acting like a polarisator. If you are unable to connect the two than i feel just sorry for you.

>>18732552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y
this and more fucking space magics

>>18733143
Fuck off shill now we now your tactics

>>18732524
That's too much for a flatearther i swear...

>>18733231
Except at that scale there would be no particle effect whatsoever so why are you linking to an experiment that shows wave-particle duality?

>When they were built the pyramids lined up perfectly
>I know when the pyramids were built
I guess you also know they used giant desert koalas to carry the stones

>>18733231
Thats kinda odd that what is shown is curving radiating beams of light but the real scenario shows light traveling straight and uniform.

Also odd that this experiment has literally nothing to do with the cloud phenomena.

Shill

>>18732542
Yes just like the moon is....
Nigga

>>18733239
Except this faggy cube belongs in your room, not in "space"

>>18733249
you are totally missing the point, i gave you all the information you need to properly understand this.

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>>18733231
1) that's not even the official explanation
2) you are misinterpreting the results of the experiment (I suggest you do some research into what this experiment is about and what it means)
3)talk to your superiors and ask for your pay lowered for being so bad at shilling

>>18733264
Gtfo blackie-chan

>>18733275
>i gave you all the information you need to properly understand this.

>said two words
>posted a Wikipedia link
>posted a gif with no source

So that's how your science works.

>>18733275
I have a degree in physics, Trust me your hurting our argument efforts. You should shill somewhere else this is my thread.

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>>18733264
I piss on you and your team of shills

>>18732386
>>18732389
>>18732403
>>18732407
THIS, shills are quite easy to spot when you know what to look for.
They use these same tactics on every major forum.

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>>18733288
>Shlomo recruiting shills to shill for Israel on reddit

>>18731263
Are you retarded? The moon isnt just out during the night you brainlet

>>18733305
Nobody said that fuckface.
So, tell me again how is it night before the sun fully set?

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>>18733275
> i gave you all the info ¡ration you need to propperly understand one of the most important experiments in the modern age
W E W L A D
>this info is also supposedly relevant to "parallel" light beams somehow not being very parallel (the cloud acts like the double slit bro trust me)

also pic related is the wave pattern formed

>>18733324
>before the sun fully set

It is fully set. It's completely below the horizon.

Have you never watched a sunset before?

>>18733334
It's not fully set, otherwise it would be dark everywhere
Nice try shill

>>18731202
It's a big planet, bud.

>>18733275
This is why I hate why people who clearly arnt physicists try to pretend they are.

>>18733340
fully set = the sun is totally below the horizon

Again, have you never watched a sunset before?

>>18731263
>>18731263
see>>18732496
>>18732496
>>18732496

>>18733352
It's not over the horizon, it's far into the distance. Lrn the difference

>>18733359
No

>>18733367
Well then you'd be able to see it.

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>>18733350
I hate it when people who clearly arnt humans try to pretend they are

>>18733375
I hate it when cats who clearly arnt baboons try to pretend they are penguins

STOP DERAILING THE THREAD WITH NONSENSE, THOSE WHO REPLY TO DERAIL SHILLS ARE FALLING FOR IT BY FURTHER DERAILING IT

>>18732292
Don't be a fucking autist.

>>18733445
After all the videos of space bubbles no one believes in "spacewalks" anyway

Moon landing long proved fake. I start looking into it asa teenager, second day realise they claim to have lost the telemetry data, never believed that shit for a second since then.

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>>18733489
Same here

Do you guys honestly believe that everyone who doesn't believe the earth is flat is a paid shill?

>>18733540
Are you surprised? You need 40 iq to believe in flat earth. They aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

>>18733540
Paid? No. They just believe that everyone who disagrees with them is trying to derail and delegitimize their position. Which, I guess, might be close to a kind of truth from a certain twisted perspective, which also fits with the kind of person who would believe in a flat earth.

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>>18733517
another iss fail

>>18733686
what's the fail here?

>>18732542
>do sattelites be visible
do you really expect anyone to take you seriously when you can't even speak english?

>>18731202
It's called Scale, Retard

>>18731202
>What is the morón?

>>18733902
(You)

>>18733957
I'm seriously asking
also, to all flat earthers here, do you believe in atmospheric pressure?

I'm so fucking tired of all the inconsistent crap from these globe earth fags

KYS desu

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lmao this is my new favourite form of entertainment

If the Earth is flatarded, how do you explain time zones? Bunch of faggots you lot!!!

>>18734337
time is a social construct :^)

>>18734379

Yes, this most places have different time zones because of how the place operates and when the sun is there or not.

Just because it is dark in area and not the other doesn't mean "Glub earth hur hur" that is poor logic and a straw man argument that I have seen too many times.

I have only recently been pilled about the flat earth and never really looked into this stuff but now I do. The evidence is astounding.

>>18734399
If the earth were flat, the sun would either be up everywhere, or down everywhere.

>>18734399

>The evidence is astounding

Astoundingly non existant.

>>18734399
But if the earth is a flat plane, as soon as the sun was above the horizon, it would be visible everywhere, regardless of where you were on said plane. Saying it could be dark in one area and light in another on a flat earth, to me seems like poor logic.
So, if you've seen my argument too many times, how bout offering up some evidence to refute it instead of tip toeing around it by labelling it a straw man argument.
I'm open minded and would be the first to admit I was wrong if proven to be so..... Enlighten me

>>18734399
Your lack of intelligence is astounding.

>>18734428
>>18734510
No, the sun rotates above the flat earth.
it's a lot smaller than you think..

>>18734629
In order for the small/close sun of the flat earth model to fit with our observations of the sun throughout the day, it would either have to move in a parabola centered over the specific point of reference, or physically shrink and grow as it gets closer and then further away from that reference point. Otherwise, it would appear to grow massively until midday and then shrink down to nothing. Obviously this can't be what's happening, because from only a few miles away this kind of movement would appear extremely erratic.

Additionally, the sun is extremely bright. That's painfully obvious to anyone who has ever seen it. Regardless of how small it is, that intensity of light would be clearly visible from extremely long distances. It wouldn't just become invisible because it's a hundred or so miles away, unless there was some other feature that blocked light from reaching the "night" side of the planet, which again, would make for a wildly inconsistent appearance from different vantage points.

>>18734629
Really, that's your evidence? I guess you and I have different views on what is classed as "astounding".

Anything else? I'll wait with bated breath....

>>18734680
THIS

>>18734680
Fucking. This. Go fuck yourselves flatfags.

>>18734681

That wasn't me but ok lmao

>>18734681
>>18734621
>>18734510
>>18734438
>>18734428
(same idiot)

There is much more evidence go, yet you never provide any for your shitty globe earth. All of it has been debunked the globe doesn't work

You just "assume" it is common knowledge to everyone that X works like Y and never show why or how. In reality all your claims are baseless!

muh NASA

>>18734773

I can book a tour to view the 24 hour Antarctic sun. Flat earth debunked.

>>18734781

Yeah sounds great, except good luck doing that, not going to happen they don't like anyone going up there.

>>18734773
Whoa! Haha its funny how you say I'm making assumptions but only 2 out of those 5 posts you cited were from me.

There's a shit ton of evidence to support my views. In fact its the standard model that is accepted everywhere cept this retarded thread!

The onus of proof lies with you my friend!!

>>18734789

Cruises go there all the time, and you can view the sun from those cruises.

>>18731202
impossible. earth has no moon.

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What do you think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8f7KDVyrc

>>18734773
Never go full retarded.

>>18734937

See you soon

>>18732504
this image is fantastic as it proves the Sun rays are not parallel as should be the case on a globeshit. We can distinctly see rays going in every direction (360*) around a single spot located near above.

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>>18732819
>relativistic Doppler effect.

to the garbage truck it goes.

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>>18735206
>i know everything even though i've never researched anything or done any critical thinking in my entire life

Here's an easy-to-understand explanation for you:
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/154951/why-do-sunbeams-diverge-even-though-the-sun-is-much-more-than-a-few-kilometers-a?answertab=active#tab-top

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>>18735230
I'm glad that we've gotten to the point where you're admitting that you disregard anything even slightly scientific. Maybe now it won't be so surprising now when people trash your opinion.

>>18731202
>sun and moon in the same visible sky
How is that strange?
You usually can't see the moon in the sky during the day because the sun is too bright for it to be seen, but it can be there.

The times you can easily see the moon during the day is during a solar eclipse.

>>18734847
Mmm, no
>>18734847
ALL footage claiming to be Antarctica 24h sun is actually from the Arctic.
Try harder shills

>>18735470
>tfw you book a cruise to go to the Antarctic and no one on the ship notices that you're going north instead of south

>>18735257
>stackexchange.com
The garbage can is on your left

>>18735477
Except you cant see the 24h sun from antarctica.
You are free to lie to yourself.

>>18735478
I did say it was easy to understand, which was why I chose that one in particular. Obviously more in-depth explanations would tax your comprehension. You're the one who believes in fairy tale nonsense, you've gotta do a lot better than this if you don't want to be treated like a simpleton your whole life.

>>18735487
That's kindergarten level 'proof'
Article immediately discarded.
Got something better?

>>18735512
I literally don't care if you live your entire life in ignorance? So no. I'm bored of looking up basic facts for you. Do it yourself or wallow in idiocy, makes no difference to me.

If the earth is flat and the spotlight sun is corrsct, how com Sydney experiences more than 12 hours of light today?

How is the spotlight sun able to not only illuminate Sydney for more than 12 hours, but also Cape Town and Santiago de Chile.

Explain how this is possible.

>>18732857
>>Human are special
Prove to me that we're not.

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I happened to notice this afternoon that there was a half-moon in the sky at around 4pm while the sun was still quite high. Now, I understand that you'll tell me that the shaded side of the Moon has to do with the vantage point the Earth has in relation to the Sun's illumination of the Moon, but that's can't actually be what's going on here, right? I mean, the Moon is a half-moon long after the Sun has gone down, right? We only observe a small segment of change in the moon's shadow over 24 hours, right? All the while the Sun is setting, the Earth is spinning, the Moon is orbiting, all kinds of things are happening in this time, right? What am I missing here?

Pic related but I didn't take it. Found it on google.

>>18735257
That's a retarded explanation and you know it. The sun is meant to have a diameter of 1,392,000 km, some hundred times that of the Earth. Its rays are meant to be parallel by the time they reach the Earth because of how long they're supposed to have traveled. Yet we're meant to believe that in a picture where the Suns rays obviously originate at a very local point in the sky, that this is just perspective in the same way that train tracks seem to grow narrower in the distance? That's just stupid as fuck. We should be getting blasted equally at every point of whatever side of the Earth is facing the sun. Of course this would also mean that Antarctica should melt every time its supposed tilt puts it in the way of this sunbath.

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>>18735714
That "obviously local point in the sky" would probably have planes fucking crashing into the sun all the time. And again, you run into the same issue outlined in >>18734680

Here's an image taken from a plane of the same phenomenon, but from a reverse perspective. If these divergent rays were caused by the sun being as close as you say, it should still look like the rays are spreading out as they near the ground. Instead, the opposite happens, for the same reason: parallel rays of light seem to converge in the distance.

>>18735673
This.
People need to look more at the sky.

When a half or crscent moon is up in the sky in the daytime, that is the only proof you need that the moon phases(and moon eclipses) are not caused by the earth's shadow.

Therefore, the whole heliocentric model should be questioned.

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>>18735735
The earth's shadow obviously doesn't cause moon phases. That's the explanation parents give their children when they don't know how it actually works. The whole idea is ridiculous for a number of reasons. First of all, obvious and fairly common phenomena as in >>18735673 show that it can't be the case. Secondly, how could a spherical earth possibly cast a shadow that would cause the gibbous phases of the moon? The earth's shadow only falls on the moon during lunar eclipses.

The actual phases of the moon are caused by the relative angle of light from the sun hitting the moon from an observer on earth. Handy graphic attached.

>>18735647
>Human are special
>Prove to me that we're not.

Your personal opinion and world view doesn't have any relevance for me. The number of people (parents, children, friends) to whom your opinion matters at all is, compared to the number of people on earth, nearly zero for all practical purposes. So, at least (you) are not special.

>>18732507
I think he was calling them out on that stupidity, anon. never said it actually was curved

>>18735744
>The actual phases of the moon are caused by the relative angle of light from the sun hitting the moon
1. Your picture is not to scale, so it has no practical value and is discarded from the start
2. That moon doesn't appear to keep the same side towards the earth, so again, pic--->>>trash

Got any to-scale (((CGI))) to prove your heliocentristic schizophrenia?

>>18735769
Nice bait mate.

#>>18735769
18735769
Shill

>>18735745
Good goy.
You're not special, you're just a speck of dust, with purposeless existence, you can do whatever you want and it won't make a difference. Don't forget:

Obey the law
Go to work
Watch TV
Read the news
Reproduce
Consume
Consume
Consume
Die happy

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>>18735780
found the newfag

18735786
?

>>18735781
> Good goy.
Out of arguments, starting ad hominem, so soon?

> with purposeless existence
All our existences don't have any purpose. Life itself doesn't have a purpose, evolution doesn't have any directed aims, the universe doesn't have a purpose. Everything just IS, because it CAN.

Prove me wrong.

Most people can't handle this simple truth, they need religion, an artificial purpose and direction in everything.

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>>18735257
>http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/154951/why-do-sunbeams-diverge-even-though-the-sun-is-much-more-than-a-few-kilometers-a?answertab=active#tab-top


this is the apparent explanation?? top kek

The sun is supposedly 93Million miles away
touches a cloud and suddenly all those "parallel" light rays diverge?

If you pick this exact camera up from the fucking floor and raise it 50m in the air this argument would become ultimately retarded.

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>>18735809
>life has no meaning
>can't handle the truth

fucking lmao it was much easier handling the actions have no consecuences, there is no god, humans are irrelevant monkeys on a ball floating through space meme

than coming to the realization that you been goofed and now have to make up for wasted time.

>I don't need religion or meaning becuz im so in touch with the truth that nothing matters
you're fucking delusional bro, I behaved like that when I was 13

>doesn't look like anything to me

>>18735813
see >>18735733 for why you're a fucking idiot.

>>18735809
>Everything just IS, because it CAN.
You are no better than a fanatic muslim, he strongly ((believes)) in Allah,
you ((believe)) that 60 gorillion years ago something that never existed decided to explode and created us and the order we see around us


The Big-Bang is your god and the science squad is your church >>18732485

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>>18735828
>thousands of pictures of converging sunrays
ignored
>one pic of divergent, without any analysis from researchers adhering to either model
disprooved yo


I'd like to know more about why that pic is like that. Both sides welcome to give explanations.

>>18735825
Whatever you say.

Of course everything you do has consequences. Immediate consequences in your life and the lives of all the other beings around you. If you perform a crime, you go to jail. In the long run, you're dust. Chances are good that 200 years from now, nobody even remembers you've existed at all. So what? Make the best of the life you have, now. I'm wasting time here on /x/ because I'm waiting for some computations to finish, that are important for me. Important now. Next week? Delete the files, gone.

But you seem to know better, so: What really matters?

>>18735831
I can't argue against that. You win. Now crawl back under your stone, from where you came.

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>>18735857
I seem to know better of what?

And if you've looked into it and nothing rings true to you except the "there's nothing to it" approach than who am I to tell you how to live your life.

All I wanted was to encourage some criticism towards conventional beliefs. Especially western conventions and the trendy big bang/humans are irrelevant concept.

Let's not derail this thread further though.

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>>18735857
No one can simply tell someone or teach someone what really matters. If you ever feel like it just sit down for a few hours and truly think about it and put everything into perspective. Usually it all starts with a bit of introspection. You'll find and pick the tools which ring true to you. Or you already have.

>>18733686
>>18733902
Nothing. Out of context webm.
Periodically ISS fires its thrusters to correct it's orbit. That is precisely what is happening here.
They often do it during one of these broadcasts in order to demonstrate the affect of the acceleration. Because that is interesting and educational.

I remember seeing the moon at daytime so many times, it wasn't full tho.

>>18735880
>I seem to know better of what?
You've said I'm fucking delusional. You can only say so from a viewpoint of non-delusioness (if this is not a word, now it is). Assuming that you're not delusional for yourself, just in a different way than me.

>>18735911
Heated thread so a heated response. Don't take that seriously because I do not think that I am any less delusional than the next guy.

>>18735889
>tell or teach
The libraries are full of books that teach you "Trust us, because we say so. Here are twenty examples of people who trusted us, and read on how their lives changed to the better than ever."

I'm open for each and every new point of view to enhance my knowledge. All I'm asking for are reasons and verifiable examples. Everything else belongs on /x/. Oh, wait...

>>18735917
This is 4chan. Not taking things seriously is my default mode of operation here. No harm done. ;)

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>>18732415
You do understand they don't just go straight up, right? You also understand that it would take a tremendous amount of energy to do so as opposed to establishing an orbit by going diagonally, right? Quit trying to shit on NASA and space exploration you fucking mongoloid.

>>18731202
Lens correction. A utility also available with Gopro.

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Yo do understand there is no such thing as "orbit", right?
Quit sucking NASA's dick and do your own research.

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>>18732386
>Implying anything of value or real cutting-edge knowledge and discovery ever originates on forums
>Let alone 4chan
Anon, pls.

Fuck, I can't wait until all of you people die and realize just how fucking wrong you were.

You YOURSELF can PROVE that the Earth is a sphere, if only you would take the time and put forth the effort to just fucking do it.

>>18735992
I hope you won't die before you realise how wroung you are right now.

>>18735971
yeah this vid is crazy

will start going outside more

also should I get a coolpix 900?

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>>18735924
but if you don't want /x/ related information then why are you here?

>>18735470
If I literally book a cruise there and Livestream the entire thing with a GPS would all of you flatfags fuck off already? I'm genuinely willing to do it, that's how much asspain you cause me

>>18731253
Exactly. Looking back, this horeshit flat earth resurgence didn't get into full swing until weird shit started going on about Antarctica. Ever since then these dumb fucks are flooding every conspiracy related thread if they can squeeze it into the conversations. This is a calculated effort to discredit those bringing actual ongoing conspiracies into public discussion. Would be nice to know who's funding it.

>>18736023
>book a cruise there
you can only book a cruise to the very edges of it and controlled by guides. Also it's like 30k.

if you grab a cheap boat and a quad/snowmobile and prove that Antarctica is what its is I will give you my life's savings.

>>18736036
I will literally do that. I'm not joking.

Please outline EXACTLY what I need to do and what proof I need to gather so that I can do everything correctly.

And I swear on my life, if the evidence I find points to the Earth being flat, I will accept it and spread my data far and wide.

>>18732542
>comparing people in the act of doing something fun to people being debriefed about it after the fact
This is such a dumb image.

>>18736045
Dude, they're even trying to explain away curvature at this point. No matter what you come back with they'll find a way to twist it back into their retarded ideology.

>>18731247
lols

>>18736049
People seem to have lost the facility for lively, courteous debate.
Rabid hostility, swearing and character assassination of people simply for expressing ideas you are uncomfortable with destroys your credibility.... It DOES NOT enhance it.

>>18735781
>Die happy
wow what a horrible fate

>>18736057
In this we agree, my flat earth theorist.

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>>18736045
For all the peopel participating in this debate there are a few "experiments" that we need done.

First a high altitude balloon like the ones they use for the no curvature vids. If you launch that shit in antarctica, at several different hours of the day we would have good info on the sun's movements and possible insights into the existence of the firmament.

Then you will need to take a map of that place which we all agree on, and follow that map to the center, both the center of the earth axis and the center of the earth if the axis weren't tilted.
All landmarks present on the map should be photographed in order to prove your location.

The whole journey documented on film, with compass direction, sun location, star location etc.

Obvioulsy a cheeky GPS but I don't know to what extent is that shit trustworthy.


If you manage to cross antarctica right through the previously mentioned points and not just walk along the "circular" antarctica then that's a good indication of a ball earth.

There will be many many more questions to be answered so you should organise this propperly and be loud about it. Not too loud though because you don't wan't attention from those who will ultimately shut your shit down and sink your boat and pretend you died in a storm or some shit while actually just executing you.

Sun and the moon in the sky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWUTxhuDM8A

>>18736148
Will do. I'm going to start planning now. This is my trip, but I'm going to change to a secure one in my next post.

>>18736166
This is going to be my secure trip. I'll probably start using this one from now on instead of the unsecure one.

>>18736169
You're the mod from tsukichan? I am part of that shit. Would be insane if you're not taking the piss and actually want to mount an expedition.

>>18736184
Yep, that's me.

Oh, shit! How much cooler would it be if we got a bunch of people together to pool resources, provide safety in numbers and companionship on the voyage, as well as finally decide once and for all the shape of the Earth!? I'm down

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>>18736218
I have actually tried to push this idea, there were some guys interested. Make a thread about it see what /x/ says.

>>18736169
Shut the fuck up trip fag

>>18731202
It's hillarious how many imbeciles come out of the shadows because of internet

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-p21QyTVn4
It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat.

If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed.
If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.

If the Earth is an extended flat plane, then this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

If, however, the Earth is a giant sphere tilted on its vertical axis spinning through never-ending space then it follows that truly flat, consistently level surfaces do not exist here!

Moreover, if the Earth is spherical then it follows that the surface of all Earth’s water, including the massive oceans, must maintain a certain degree of convexity.

But this is contrary to the fundamental physical nature of water to always be and remain level!

>>18736459
Level relative to what?

>>18736469
Don't you know what 'sea level' means?
Are you mentally challenged?

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>>18736459
Nope. Rowbotham gets it wrong again.

Liquid water, unless acted upon by an outside force, forms spheres.

>>18736480
That doesn't answer my question. What are you measuring the levelness of water in relation to? What determines what makes a level surface?

I cannot explain your autism

must have gotten it from the vaccines masons broke your mind with.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0dDw-8Nhow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZP_VZ_Ehvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J18e30zTyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq_JjYJPWAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSJxEMw0MCI

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>>18736459
I think you fail to grasp that there is no universal "down"

If all water is accelerating towards the center of the Earth, then it is level when all point of the (incredibly gradual) curve are an equal distance from the center of the Earth.

And you initial claim that "water always finds in level" is plainly false. What about water tension? or the fact that water forms a sphere in zero g conditions?

Do you disagree with any of this?

>>18736507
Water in Zero g can be observed only on vomit comets, and as CGI rendering (ISS footage).

Oh, I hope you didn't fall for the _playing with water on the ISS near electronics_ meme

>>18736523
If water is in zero g on vomit comets, that still proves his point, anon.

Also, how do flatfags explain that away? How does >muh density work then?

>>18736523
>Water in Zero g can be observed only on vomit comets
And it forms a sphere

And what about surface tension? Is that another illiminati lie?

That's the problem with conspiracies. There is literally no evidence that I could show you that would sway you from your foregone conclusion. Everything that contradicts your narrative is a fake.

>>18736529


SHUT THE FUCK UP TRIPFAG


SHUT THE FUCK UP TRIPFAG

>>18731202
Pilot here

I get that all the time when I film sunrises out of my window from the cockpit

I don't know what it is but it could have to do with the heating elements in the windows that fucks with the camera or just the way the phone picks up the sun light thru the heated windows or some shit, who knows.

>>18736536
>Pilot here
oh how CONVENIENT that you would show up in this thread

no way you're a shill

>>18736523
>only observed on water comets

Thus proving the point.

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>>18736540
Nope

>>18736536
>pilot here

Are you telling me that, as a pilot, you've never noticed the sun and the moon in the same sky before?

Because that's something small children notice and point out.

>>18736550
Fuckin burned

>>18736554
>Are you telling me that, as a pilot, you've never noticed the sun and the moon in the same sky before?
are you under the impression that this proves flat Earth?

how?

>>18736550
Gonna need a time stamp.

>>18736559
>this proves the flat earth

No, it just means that the moon revolves around the round earth.

>>18736564
How?

>>18736567
You're asking how orbits work? Or why the sun and the moon would be in the sky at the same time?

>>18736550
>implying that a massive gment shill agency can't afford a few pilot costumes

You're not fooling anybody

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>>18736573
Ya I just happen to have been wearing a uniform Topkek

>>18736560

>>18736554
What are you talking about? I saw a dancing ball of light in the video, not a moon. I see it all the time when I record while I fly

>>18736592
The OP isn't talking about the dancing reflections, but rather the sun being above one horizon, and on turning the camera, the moon being above the other horizon.

He thinks the moon and the sun in the same sky debunks the round earth model.

>>18736599
Oh, disregard then and whatever. Thought he was talking about the ball of light moving

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>>18736599
>the moon emits light
>except during a solar eclipse, then it is perfectly black

Flatfags are so dumb.

>>18736531
in this thread it looks like it's the other way round

>>18736605
please point to a single post where a roundfag accuses a flatfag of making up evidence

oh wait, you can't you fucking retard

>>18736604
It's not even just during an eclipse, it's whenever it's not full.
>the moon emits light but from only half of itself somehow

>>18736612
>and it's always just coincidentally on the half facing the sun

>>18736616
>coincidentally

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>>18736459
Then you have a much cheaper and easier way to prove the inaccuracy of our gravity model. No need to charter a trip to Antarctica.

https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/bathymetry/predicted/explore.HTML
>The surface of the ocean bulges outward and inward mimicking the topography of the ocean floor. The bumps, too small to be seen, can be measured by a radar altimeter aboard a satellite. Over the past year, data collected by the European Space Agency ERS-1 altimeter along with recently declassified data from the US Navy Geosat altimeter have provided detailed measurements of sea surface height over the oceans. These data provide the first view of the ocean floor structures in many remote areas of the Earth.

Maps like pic related are made by measuring the effect gravity has on the ocean. The ocean is actually NOT flat and level (not even counting waves), and the water will "bunch up" where there is more mass under the surface.

But IF gravity is fake and all of this is wrong, then you should be able to go to one of these areas where the only data we have is from satellites and show how the map doesn't match reality.

We're all eagerly waiting for you to prove the scientists wrong. I hope you hurry.

You see that alot in ca. During the winter

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>>18736628
Sorry, went with wrong pic. Here's a map of the ocean floor made through measuring the bumps due to gravity on the surface of the ocean.

If gravity is fake and water "always remains flat" then these maps should be horribly wrong. All it would take is to go where the only data we have is from satellites and see if it matches up.

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>>18736628
Water always finds its level

I know this because I am a scientist

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>>18736610
>>18733141
this retard linking the fucking double slit experiments to "explain" converging sunrays
>>18733517
>>18733686
none of you round earth fags responding to this ISS banter
>>18734681
this roundearther literally saying "really this is your evidence" or that other guy who has the audacity to say "those aren't credible sources">>18733143
while roundearth fags are posting stackexchange.com lmao
>"you gotta be iq 15.."
>"youre so dumb man"
when will roundearthers start providing arguments? It's the derailers and shills that will end up convincing me the earth is flat

look at pic related some idiot asks why isn't the moon shining and can't take into accoutn that the sun shines so much fucking brighter making the moonshine negligible. AND THEN 3 SHILLS UNDER HIM SPREADING SOME RETARDED BULLSHIT

>>18736656
>this retard linking the fucking double slit experiments to "explain" converging sunrays
He's offering an alternate explanation

He is not claiming that flatfags fabricated these pictures of Sun rays.

Can you really not tell the difference?

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>>18736642
I was taught these maps were made by ships which in turn blast the ocean floor with radar/or other waves, and then map it using the time it takes the wave to bounce back.

Flatearthers don't do satellites btw.

>>18736669
ah the standard "lemme point out this one thing so he forgets that I didn't answer or reply to anything in the rest of his post"

That was just pointing out the banter, read further to see shit like this>>18734681

And that's just 1 example, just read the thread before saying shit like "uh you can't find x".

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>>18736675
>Flatearthers don't do satellites btw.

How do you explain satellites that are plainly visible and photographed by amateur astronomers? Are they all part of the NASA conspiracy?

>>18736656
>and can't take into accoutn that the sun shines so much fucking brighter making the moonshine negligible.
This doesn't make any sense. During an eclipse, the moon is directly in front of the sun from the point of view of those in the area of totality, blocking the sun's light and negating any potential outshining. Why, then, if it was luminescent on its own, would it fail to produce even the faintest sliver of its own light during these periods? Why is there only light from the corona of the sun visible?

>>18736656
>none of you round earth fags responding to this ISS banter

Why does it need a response? She pushes off with her foot, loses control, needs to brace herself. This is exactly what you'd expect to happen in a zero g environment, and you could reproduce it on the vomit comet if you wanted.

>>18736669
It's not an alternative explanation, as it doesn't really explain the observations. He's just talking out his ass.

>>18736682
I honestly don't think you understand what I was asking for.

>>18736686
>It's not an alternative explanation, as it doesn't really explain the observations. He's just talking out his ass.
I don't care about the explanation. The point is that he didn't accuse Flatfags of fabricating those images.

Which is exactly what a flatfag does when confronted with evidence that doesn't support their conclusion. CONSPIRACY! CGI! SHILLS!

Its absolutely one sided.

>>18736675
http://moocs.southampton.ac.uk/oceans/2014/10/04/mapping-the-deep-and-the-real-story-behind-the-95-unexplored-oceans/

We have mapped the entire ocean floor to a resolution of about 5km using the satellite altimetry detailed above.

We can use ship-mounted sonar for more accuracy, but it takes longer and covers less area. With sonar, we can get a resolution of about 100m. But we have only mapped about 10-20% of the ocean this way.

The most accurate is, of course, physically going down there with a robot or crew. But we've only been able to do this with less than .05% of the ocean.

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>>18736683

yeah man, I've never seen a convincing pic of a sattelite till this one you attached but if tht shit is from NASA I can't trust them for shit.

I remember begin a teenager reading about the fucking "lost telemetry data" laughed out loud and never trusted them since.
also very important how to you guys explain the space bubbles lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImL9OUsorSM
just one of thousands of vids (skip intro mute sound obv)

>inb4 doesn't look like anything to me

>>18736686
That's not what happens in that video and just like the guy who replied to you, you forgot to talk about the more interesting webm. (the one with the floating bendy spacedoor)

>>18736730
>floating bendy space door

That's just a cover of insulation. The door is further inside and opens inwards, not outwards. You could have just googled that if you were curious.

>bubbles in space

They're clearly not air bubbles in water. Air bubbles in water only go in one direction, and increase in volume as they rise. Those go every which way, and are just little dots, not expanding bubbles.

It's debris. Usually ammonia ice. Sometimes water ice. Sometimes it's bits of rocket exhaust. Sometimes flakes of paint.

>>18736717
>yeah man, I've never seen a convincing pic of a sattelite till this one you attached
Why? have you never looked?

You can use the ISS data and a $100 telescope and see it for yourself.

>>18736744
The different videos have the bubbles moving in the same direction, the direction varies from vid to vid.

the bubbles literally move exactly like bubbles do

They are orbiting the earth at immense speeds and thats debris relaxed and floating away?

>>18736761
I will try this. I will actually have access to a good telescope over summer so I will see if I can spot any satellites.