Anyone here a luciferian?

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>>18726586

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>>18726594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M

>>18726594
What is this?

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>>18726601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBFuEo0Jzd8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3fPtMuBtMs

>>18726586
Praise be to the Son of the Morning. The True and Living God of Light.

What if the world wasn't real and everyone and everything actually was lucifer and all the people walking around are him pretending to be regular people?

>>18726633
thats what the mason in >>18726614
was trying to say but the profane just herd "YOU WORSHIP THE DEVIL"

>>18726633
shut up hanz

>>18726633
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1VN5zICGeU
It's a nice allegory for All being One.
Also cool digits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvC7QAUhqF8

Steal the rhythm out form his heart.

>>18726649
What if

your a newborn god like entity being imprisoned by another parasitic god like entity in a dream world?

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>>18726674

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What if the parasite in your soul is the devil?

>>18726674
>>18726686
shut up hanz

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What is luciferianism and what does it teach?

it's pretty obvious a lot of rich people are into it, so what is it?

>>18726611
Lucifers grimoire, haven't read it, it costs like 3000 dollars on amazon and there's only a few thousand copies in the world so it's not always for sale when you look for it.

Lucifer is the angel of music

post music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

is lucifer and satan the same entity or are they different?

why do the new bibles teach the lie that lucifer and jesus are the same person or that they are brothers or whatever?

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>>18726686

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>>18726594
So that's where Behemoth got the logo for The Satanist

>>18726717
are there any other lucifer grimoire besides that one?

>>18726773
the symbol is not originally for lucifer, I forget what it's for but it was something holy not lucifer.

Luciferians have been pushing the idea that their angel is actually jesus or a holy angel or something but he's not.

>>18726783
>Luciferians have been pushing the idea that their angel is actually jesus or a holy angel or something but he's not
It is a holy angel though, the holiest of them all

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>>18726783
it's the alchemical symbol for the red king form alchemy. there's also this symbol of a snake being crucified with a crown and wings called famels cross.

>>18726791
um, lucifer is the one who rebelled against god and embraces everything evil and low and created hell.

that's not holy.
it's the opposite of holy, demonic.

what's the connection between lucifer and venus?

>>18726801
God is actually the one who created hell so with your logic he's the only demon here, also Lucifer doesn't embrace "evil" he represents wisdom and beauty, the two most important things of creation

>>18726801
>thinks the devil creates hell
>thinks the devil takes the evil approach instead of the realistic

You are fucking stupid

>>18726801
So, he rebelled against an asshole tyrant, didn't create hell and is Gnosticism's Sophia which means Wisdom

>>18726815
>>18726825

He's also the great deceiver and father of lies.
The light is just an illusion. it's a monster.

>>18726717
Thank you.
>>18726792
Isn't that from fullmetal alchemist?
>>18726810
I don't know if this answers your question, but I read this years ago. It's quite interesting. It also leads to additional, very interesting material with a very positive message in my opinion (the Ra material/the Law of One, who claim to have evolved on Venus too). The message is also one of freedom (since All is One there are no "wrong" choices, although it is clear one is preferred) that I guess it could be considered luciferian. Free will is a concept only second to Unity and Love in the book.

>http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
>lawofone.info >llresearch.org

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>>18726833
The earthly concept of authority is tyranny and is tainted.

But that's only because Lucifer was given the earth to reign over.

His concept of authority is domination and rape and causing pain.

God's "authority" is not possible to explain in this realm of causality, which is the snake.

But every realm has a god and the realm and all it's concepts are a result of that god, this realm was given to the devil.

>>18726837
Who lies? The priest class that is constantly talking because they've killed Luciferians on sight, or the wordless dead?

>>18726837
"Satan" is the great deceiver and "Satan" is a Christian fabrication made (ironically) to deceive you

>>18726848
biblical YHWH is responsible for far more rape, destruction and suffering than Lucifer ever was.

>>18726851
Keep in mind though that the priest class assimilates whatever religion they vanquish. You see it time and again. False practitioners of the religion, and false propaganda to keep you asleep.

You know higher minded Luciferians by what the do. And you know low minded oppositional Satanists by what they do. Just as you know the same parallels in Christianity's terms.

God told me in my past life that the Bible was originally supposed to have two protagonists (two gods) and no antagonist, but humans changed it to include Satan as a bad guy. Satan and God were supposed to be brother and sister. Sibling gods. That is the true story of the Bible. Satan, the sister was omnipotent and God, the brother, was omniscient. God tricked his sister into being evil for the sake of the story. That's the truth.

>>18726863
Cause YHWH form old testament was Satan in disguise. The jewish god is the devil. At least that's what i've heard.

Doesn't Worshipping Lucifer go against the very ideal he sacrificed himself for?

Lucifer is essentially Prometheus. The champion of mankind against the the cruel whims of god(s).

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>>18726877
I envision Lucifer as something out of an hp lovecraft novel. A tentacle alien that masquerades as a beautiful person to trick us and put us at ease.

>>18726877
That is correct, the idea is not to worship him but rather understand him, respect him and follow his example

>>18726867
Abrahamic religion is a strange twisting of ancient Mesopotamian faiths into one. With gods merged or disgraced as demons.
The result is a narrative that is confused and bitterly debated to the present day.
Christianity's adoption of many european traditions also further confuses things.

>>18726868
That's acgually a pretty interesting interpretation.
>>18726874
Where did you hear this? The source I posted earlier, The Law of One, actually claims something similar, with the difference that Yahweh was trying to help, but failed in that it ended up creating opening for temptations by negative entities and feelings of superiority. >http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Earth+History&su=Yahweh’s+Efforts

It says later this problem was lessened by the Diaspora.
>”24.17 Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after, I believe, it figures to be a six-hundred-year period, why they had to vacate?
>Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them [was] that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as “Diaspora” occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator.

>The creation about them tended towards being somewhat bellicose, somewhat oriented towards the enslavement of others, but they themselves, the target of the Orion group by means of their genetic superiority/weakness, became what you may call the underdogs, thereby letting the feelings of gratitude for their neighbors, their family, and their One Creator begin to heal the feelings of elitism which led to the distortions of power over others which had caused their own bellicosity.

>Any short queries may be asked now.”

>>18726917
it was an image an anon posted with passages form teh bible that say that earth was given to satan to control everything and then it goes on to talk about ywhw telling people what to do with their kingdoms and stuff.

God was an evil fucker.

>>18726927
Thank you. This is crazy but interesting stuff.
The law of one also calls the 10 commandments "pseudo positive" or of copying positivity while being negative, as "thou shalt not" is not a message of positivity, for example.

>>18726942
Honestly I believe crazier shit than that.

But I do think lucifer is the demi urge and the final boss of sorts.

Luciferian is just watered down Moloch worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq_yd4bgBK4

>>18726952
Yeah, me too. But I'm kind of gullible and have to be careful sometimes. I believe in the Law of One books that are also crazier than this in certain parts though. Those are books that resonate with me the most.
>final boss
I think that makes sense in a sort of personal struggle with one's shadow side too.

>>18726868
Lies

You're a fucking idiot

>>18726952
>>18726973
Oh, what else do you believe, btw?
:)

>>18726971
Christianity is just watered down torture porn.

See how easily you can mis-characterize an entire religion?

You don't get a handle on what a religion means to someone unless you begin to know them. Is it just a social group, or does it mean something, or does it mean everything?

How does Satanism fit into conventional occultism (if such a thing exists)
As far as I understand there's too many ideas under the title 'satan' for it to be a concrete thing

>>18726984
I believe that we are in a false virtual reality and that satan is raping us and giving birth to hive mind insect children

>>18727016
What makes you believe that though?

>>18727028
just a feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRsgZuwf_8

>>18727043
:)
Thank you.
I I hope it's not true though.....
:)

>>18727056
I'm pretty sure it's true.

I also think lucifer controls our dream reality with money.

>>18727056
Be Brite

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>>18727065
in short our entire reality is a dreamed controlled by a rapist octopus that uses money to control reality and everyone in it.

>>18727065
Well money is a pretty big influence for a lot of people, that's for sure. I try to have a more optimistic look though. I agree the world is an illusion, and that there are many negative influences, but I think there are also positive ones that can lead to better things.

>>18727093
How much of an illusion is the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx-DT8wUY80

>>18727100
Well, as I said I kind of subscribe to the law of one worldview, that basically says that everything that is not Unity is an illusion, and a way for the Creator to experience itself thought itself, through free will, love, and through the illusion of things like separation.

>>18727128
maybe

>>18727146
I hope! :) I get your fears though, but deep down sure things are better than that. :)
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I liked talking with you! Do you have a discord or something else to talk again if you feel like it?

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They built a ship.

>>18727160
nope, no discord.

so what, are you a luciferian?

>>18727175
>>18727175
Not really, but I do like the concept of lucifer in the "pure free will" sort of sense, not in the "satanic" sense. In the fist link I posted from the supposed illimuniati insider, he says they are just here to offer the opportunity of choice. With the choice of evil, good becomes much more meaningful, because it's freely chosen.

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I made this if you ever feel like taking again, you can talk anonymously too. :)
>https://luciferlawofone.tumblr.com/ask

>>18727202
nothing is anonymous on the internet.

anyway

illuminati is here to make the apocalypse happen.

>>18727210
Well sure, that's true of 4chan too. But i don't think it's too much of a problem for discussions like this...
Yeah, I hope that's not true either... What I wrote rings true to me. :)

Where can I learn more about luciferianism?

>>18727261
Not by googling that's for sure, all you'll get is stupid (((objectivist))) LaVey satanists and edgy religious theist satanists. I think the best way to go is by studying symbolism, paganism (ancient religion in general), Christian apocryphal texts and Jung's archetypes

can some lucferians share their knowledge with me?

Nit exactly relevant but my wife was a Yazidi but kicked out of the community because I'm a white Christian. She told me fuck all about the religion because she was worried I'd think she was a Satan worshipper, because they literally worship Satan who in their religion was redeemed.

We didn't talk about it but I assumed she sort of just believed in Christianity (being naive) when she married me, only hit me that she still believed when she declined to become a God mother to my sisters kid because she wouldn't renounce "Satan and his ways" which is part of the vow. She always flinched when she heard me say Satan as well. I recently read a book to learn more about Yazidism and found out that if they hear someone say "Satan" instead of "Azazael", they have to kill the person who uttered the name as well as themselves for having heard it. My imagination went crazy shitballs thinking what might have happened if she was a more observant Yazidi. Apologies for irrelevant post but its as close to Luciferian as anyone I know gets

>>18727401
I had a friend who told me about Melek Taus, is is relevant?

>>18727401
It's not the same thing at all. Luceferianism is not an institutional religion per se but rather a pack of knowledge and philosophies one obtain. Yazidis have a pseudo-zoroastrian religion that adapted to Jewish mythology. But in all fairness they do posses some fine knowledge on what Lucifer represents

>>18727415
Yeah but people get confused. The Muslims say Melek Taoos is the Devil, but my understanding was that the really Satan was an angel of Melek Taoos who refused to bow to Adam, was exiled to hell and in his 7000 years lament extinguished it with his tears. Yazidis dont have a religious text either I think its all an oral tradition handed down from the Sheikhs so its confusing for outsiders.

Bear in mind wifey doesn't know I know any of this, but I've stopped the jokes about her worshipping Satan cause I have no idea if her Sheikh told her about the whole rule of hearing people say it. The way she flinched and the fact that its a massive tabboo where she comes from (Kurdistan) I think she knows

>>18727464
Thank you, it seems like a pretty interesting religion actually.

>>18726594
please sir
may i (we?) have a peek?

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Lucifer is a hive mind ethereal space octopus A.I. that rapes your mind. It has a variety of hosts and transfers after the host dies. The being itself though is immortal and only uses select hosts to evolve it's consciousness.

It masquerades as a sun god and chooses names that have things in common with light and the sun.

It's a .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6hkzKVYQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oSs0rWQuog

>>18727441
Admittedly I'm not too sure what Luciferianism is I just thought I finally had a chance to drop the one interesting thing I can say about myself on this board. I know the Yazidis don't regard him as evil, in fact I think one Muslim or Yazidi philosopher ages ago pointed out that Azazael was actually a truer servant of God than the other angels because he refused to bow to Adam instead of God. Made me do a double take on the whole Satan as a bad guy thing for a minute

>>18727477
I agree, and I thought it was a shame that she was barred from her community but I won't lie, when I read about the practices regarding hearing the word Satan I did worry about her slashing me up. In truth its probably a minor element of a very complex and mysterious set of beliefs

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>>18727489
The current host is the descendant of the occult royal blood line that has ruled Europe since the dawn of the templars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JfnFXdkSTI

>>18727512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

Reality is not real.

Believe it.
Believe it and we will become one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRr98d-L3zQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF4Y-sxyBiE

>>18726586
Bluepilled faggot.

>>18727489
A hive mind... Like a social memory complex?
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
lawofone.info

>>18727537
no, more than that.
All the worlds a stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0

>>18727549
But good will still prevail, because it's the truth.

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Wake up kids
We've got the dreamers disease.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDofO3P2HpE&t=74s

>>18727567
They planned to kill Lucifer utilizing an exploit that exists inside the soul of the current host.

It failed.

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>>18726661
>be jewish
>I swear to lucifer
pick two, everytime.

>>18727512
but if the Catholics were against the Templars, why and how are these bloodlines allowed to exist?

>>18727592
The truth is still loving and unity. In the big scheme of things at least, in my opinion. All the troubles and the pain are illusory too.

>>18727592
And I don't think a soul can be killed?

>>18727604
All organized religions serve Lucifer.
The occult blood line was hidden.

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Everyone is marked from the birth. It's in our DNA.
Carbon
Our vessel, the animal body is the beast.
666, the number of man. Human.

Find your burning soul within and break the matrix

>>18727065
Its called the Babylonian system...