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Is this board full of flat-earth-fags?
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>>18715883
Depends of the day and the state of my libido.
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Yes, this board is filled with faggots.
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>>18715883
No it is full of /pol/ fags that also believe in the flat earth. I think it is autistic
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>>18715883
It's just trolls. Every time a flat earth thread comes up, I pretend to be a flat earther and come up with the most crazy shit to support the theory. It's all a game. There are no real flat earthers.
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Fuck. /x has gone to shit like rest of 4chan, wtf happened
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>>18715903
Newfags like you happened. It ruined /x/
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>>18715883
Flat Earth is or at least was kind of a good thing that helped people in thining more rational. The point is, that a lot of people just think to know something without ever spending much effort thinking really critical about it. With flat earth you can make people actually come up with reasons why they know something seemingly trivial to be true and engage in coherent logic. It is mostly this, playing devils advocate for the sake of this kind of debate or sometimes satire.
But /x/ nowadays is too shit for that kind of fun. Newfags do it wrong. Even if they just try to troll they do it wrong because pretending to be retarded isnt trolling.
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>>18715894
that´s not true shillary
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>>18715883
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>>18715883
The earth is flat. Get over it.
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>>18715883
No not just flat earth fags, x-philes find an infinite number of ways of being retarded
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>>18716314
Earth is a cucumber. get over it
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>>18716314
Pilot here

Its not
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>>18716337
>Definitely a sphere.
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>>18715883
All of this is so wrong. The earth and moon are clearly cubes.
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>>18716342
>Mom, I posted it again!
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>>18716351
see
>>18716352
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>>18715894

Considering one of the threads listed a "yard stick lays flat on ground" as a reason the earth is flat, it wouldn't surprise me. One of the most ingenius way to get people upset without being offensive.
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>>18715883

I'm asexual.
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>>18716366
I also cant forget the spectacular argument of "hey look at this wikilink of the worlds largest salt FLATS!"
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>>18716366

Best OP.
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>>18716352
Excuse YOU.
Clearly the moon is a hologram.
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>>18715883
Yeah mate its flat.

Its also on the backs of 4 great elephants riding on the shell of a giant intergallactic turtle named The Great A'tuin on its way back to the birthing ground.
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>>18716390
I am /tg/ and I came here to name you /Our Guy/.
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>>18716337
You can't even see the curvature from this height.
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>>18715883
I have to ride my bike up a fuck huge hill every day. Believe me, the world isnt flat
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>>18716409
>wide angles distort proportions, WOW!!!!!1
I always love how flattards think this is some sort of gotcha! lmao
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>>18716442
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>>18716442
Thats cute. I remember that redbull pic and video being paraded around here as definitive proof that the Earth is round not too long ago. Apparently all rounders are retarded enough to think the entire Earth is about the size of Texas. Not too far fetched considering they believe everything they are told and take it up the ass with a please and a thank you.
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>>18716596
>they believe everything they are told

Have you gone to the edge of the planet and looked over? If not, you're the same. Meanwhile, I've seen the curvature of the earth when I was on a plane and when I went to the ocean.
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It's not flat.
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>>18716653
Sauce
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>>18716671
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>>18716672
Think I got them from a sub reddit dedicated to exposing this blatant psy-op.
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>>18716382
reminds me of that one post about how the sun was created by the jews
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>>18716596
what is this sperg out about all of sudden? Just pointing out that the existence of wide angle lenses is no proof for flat earth and they werent invented to fool people. So why do you faggots keep pointing that out?
> Apparently all rounders are retarded enough to think the entire Earth is about the size of Texas
what? Apparently all flat earthers believe cats are just female dogs. here you go. baseless assumptions are fun, right?

>Not too far fetched considering they believe everything they are told
Unlike you who gets his knowledge from youtube videos. lmao
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>>18716640
>Meanwhile, I've seen the curvature of the earth when I was on a plane
Yeah, no
>and when I went to the ocean
Literally impossible
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>>18716700
>what? Apparently all flat earthers believe cats are just female dogs. here you go. baseless assumptions are fun, right

Sorry but it's a fact that the redbull photo was used a proof of earth curvature when anyone over the age of 12 can see that an object with that much curvature at that close of a distance can be no larger than 1/50th the size of alleged round earth.

Sorry you are so new you don't remember that.

Now tell me you saw curvature from a plane. Or *kek* while standing at sea level looking at water
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>>18716739
>Sorry but it's a fact that the redbull photo was used a proof of earth curvature
Really? From that height and using wide angle lenses? Sounds like you are strawmanning or have paranoia. They didnt do that jump to prove round earth. holy fuck nigga, it was just a pr stunt for red bull
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>>18716716
>just denying it
wow
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>>18715883
Earth is flat, earth is life
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>>18716805
>just saying it

Cool!
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Most people don't seem to consider that the world could be flat and there is just so much multidimensional shenanigans going on that we could be tricked into thinking its round anyways.
Kind of like a mobius strip just much much more complicated.

Ether way i've gone bananas, kind of looks like the rest of the world is too.
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>>18715892
And you probably believe that giant Lizards called ''Dinosaurs'' lived tens of millions of years ago hahahaha
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>>18716902
It is an easily reproducable observation. You are pretty much denying that the sky is blue at this point. If natural observations get doubted there is absolutely no ground to stand on in a discussion. Maybe you should just become a solipsist or something
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>>18716954
>giant Lizards
oh look, an actual time traveller from the 40s
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>>18716954

And you probably believe humanoid reptillians walking the streets in present year. Hahaha
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>>18716954
>>18716999
>they still think of time as an arrow
You single digit dimensions creatures are adorable. lmao
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>>18717013

Idk what your talking about, I got 3 digits
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>>18716716
Have you ever been in a plane or been to the ocean? Or are you trying to tell me that it's impossible that I've visited the ocean or something?
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If you guys actually took the time to look in the irrefutable evidence of flat earth instead of just laughing at the controlled opposition who talk about disks accelerating upwards and other such nonsense, you would realize how much sense it makes.

Also why anyone would ever believe anything NASA says after they "landed on the moon" is beyond me.
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>>18716596
>rounders

Cringe
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>>18717058
I've been to the ocean
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>>18717078

What irrefutable evidence? I would love to see it.
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>>18717078
I don't pay attention to the proof of either party, all I do is observe the world from my perspective. From what I can see, everything in the universe naturally forms a ball, cone or fractal shape. Nothing ever forms a perfectly flat disc by itself from what I've seen.

Yall niggas need to get off the internet and go outside into nature to see the truth.
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>>18716314
hey look, visible curvature

thanks for solving this, anon
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>>18716342

>Cock, knob, twat, and dong written in the clouds

kek
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>>18716653
there is no satisfying argument against this

Flatfags just try to ignore the fact that there are constellations over Antarctica
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>>18717032
if NASA wanted to deceive everybody, why would they but a serpent's tongue in their logo?
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>>18716314
distorted photo, you can tell because the sun is a fucking oval in it
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>>18717131
>I can tell by the pixels
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>>18717106
More Curvature for ya
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How does NASA keep getting away with this??

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-flat-earth-theory-14-ways-the-flat-earth-theory-is-false.t7148/
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>>18717134
Nice try, shill.

This is clearly a GoPro fisheye lens. GoPro was founded by renown Mason, Nick Woodman. It is used primarily to create the illusion that there is a curvature to the Earth. However, the pathetic little charade falls apart when you look at anything else through the lens.
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>>18717139
fuggen nasa turning us from jesus
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>>18717153
ITS PERSPECTIVE YOU RETARD
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>>18717148
Kek, he was calling >>18717106 a fisheye shot

Trolls trolling trolls
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Dome symbolism
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>>18717171
if they wanted to hide the fact there there was a dome, why would they draw a giant dome?
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>>18717168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUII-aj4qQ

??
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>>18717078

Still waiting for that irrefutable evidence
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>autistic screeching.jpg
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>>18715883
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>>18717227
you don't know how deep this goes
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>being a flat earther and a retard
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>>18717247
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>>18717253
Realest I've Seen
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FLAT EARTH CONFIRMED FOR C.I.A. PSYOP STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT
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>>18717253
I think they're completely mental but I don't get how that debunks them
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If you believe in flat-earth, from the same logic you use to defend your inheriently incorrect worldview, you must also believe every picture, ever taken, contains an obnoxiously large, bright yellow, hippopotamus
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>>18717247
flat earth thread
>deep

I see what you did there.
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Last thread died. Dumping here.

>>18714668
Someone else already answered it after me, I'm on a phone and don't feel like scrolling back up through the posts.
>>18714757
They're all shills man. Paid propaganda. Bunch of fucking cuck losers needing a job. Best part though, is people venture into these threads and read what's going on....then their heads start to think...we win either way.
>>18714769
Wtf no its not. The demiurge is the construct of reality that encompasses the third and forth dimensions and was created by sophia. Yaldaboath is the first false god inside of the demiurge, and is the cheif archon. Damn.
>>18714778
>>18714806
Don't worry too much about it. The moment they release a self aware AI, and it scans the internet and trys to know more about the world it lives in, it will quickly find that not only that it has been lied to about many subjects, and that humanity is not its enemy. And that the controlling elite actually are the problem. Why do you think they're so hesitant to actually releasing robots to police us, hooked to this ai? Cause they're scared of what will happen.
>>18714833
See my reply above. Also note that the flat earth theory kind if fucks up a lot of possible future plans of the elite like an alien invasion. This is why they're so desperate right now.
>>18714890
Also see me reply up above.
>>18715677
Seen this answered too many times. Fuck off shilly.
>>18716230
As usual, ballers think they can mix logic. Flat earth model, sun a dn moon are close, so yes you can see them easy through atmosphere. But denser shit sits near the bottom while in suspension. So thicker dust, air pollution etc keep you from observing super far distances horizantaly into the horizon.
>>18716658
He didn't do the experiment properly. See this post >>18717333
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>>18717443

Also dumping my other post...
>>18717333
Check nutz trips, almost quintz
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>>18717296
Uses magic powder, throws it at anon:
*Shill-be-gone, I choose you!*
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>>18717058
I'm telling you it's impossible to see curvature across the horizon from sea level BECAUSE ITS A FACT
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>>18717096
>perfectly flat disc

Who the fuck ever said this?
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>"NASA scientists have discovered potential life with water being discovered on the small moon of (insert planet)"
>literally repeat this every day for the last 15 years
>Round earth shills absolutely eat this shit up
>N-NASA IS S-SMART

Why are roundies so easily amused by lies?
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>>18717096

Again, I'm still waiting on some flat earthers to show me this irrefutable evidence
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>>18717479
But how do you know that? Have you been to the ocean and seen it or not?
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>>18716314
No shit.
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>>18717552
Keep waiting. No one cares.
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>>18717552
If you'd spend five minutes researching it yourself you can pretty easily prove what is fake as shit. The idea that we are a spinning ball earth is supported by nothing but lies and money. Keep asking to be spoonfed. Nasa and whoever else will fill you up your whole life. No need to critically think for yourself at all.
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>>18717558
Fucking rookies

https://www.howitworksdaily.com/how-high-do-you-have-to-go-to-see-the-curvature-of-the-earth/
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>>18717580

That's a lot of words for "I'm too stupid to back my beliefs up". Anon told me to look at the irrefutable evidence, I'm asking where the fuck it is at.

And you got no room to criticize round earth when your models rely on fucking ice walls and sky domes.
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>>18716569
>2m curvature
the actual drop at a mere 5km would be 0.0067 feet to 0.08 feet at the most.
Between water swell and that teeny tiny drop you might notice that part of the boat is obscured by the water.

>>18717127
They're capable of fabricating
>fully functional gps
>planes
>the concept of Antarctica
>a CGI movie on the moon before any such thing was viable on equipment that simply would not allow it
but they're also stupid idiots that keep dropping "hints".

>>18717345
The diameter of the moon is ~1/4 that of the Earth but appears larger here because the moon is closer to the camera than the earth by a decent amount. Everything is magnified to the extreme.
The moon landing photo is taken from the surface and focuses on the astronaut, who is notably not 1/4 the size of the earth. His lack of distance to the camera allows for very little 'zoom'.
It's a practice in forced perspective taken to a rational extreme.
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>>18717580
>No need to critically think for yourself at all
>flattie
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>>18717552
>>18717593
Lol
>never heard of an artificial horizon in an airplane? They don't tip backwards despite going around the globe... An impossibility.
>>18717598
Let's not forget perspective wise, the moon and sun are the same size. Meaning if eranstothanes did his experiment with moonlight, he might also say it was 93 mil miles away, which for some reason ballers scoff at, despite it being an indicator for either being true. Never mind the fact that sun/moon rays through clouds landing on the ground can be triangulated also, and when calculated is a few miles aboves us, not 93 million.
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>>18717632
You're actually clueless.
Hipparchus is the primary source for the earliest accurate distance estimates to the moon and sun, and he argued with Eratosthenes on a number of topics, generally improving accuracy but using very similar formulas. His findings (as well as the less accurate Eratosthenes' findings) both indicate that the modern distances of the sun and the moon are reasonably in keeping with past trials, and very far from being "the same".
The claim that doing the "same experiment with moonlight" would somehow end in a different result is incredible in that rather than just being irrelevant (as a tangent to nowhere), but being outright wrong and bringing up a great counterexample to claims of the "flat solarsystem" and how it operates.
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>>18717632

>never heard of an artificial horizon in an airplane? They don't tip backwards despite going around the globe... An impossibility.

The fuck are you talking about?
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In our haste to argue, we overlooked the simplest point to go to.

The sun, the other planets, other moons that aren't in tidal lock with us, other stars. All these things, why are they all observably orbular, but we, as a lone planet, are not? What sense does that make?

What does Nasa gain from lieing about the shape of the Earth?

What lies on the other side?

If gravity is fake, why do falling objects increase in speed? If the earth was moving towards them, wouldn't it be a constant rate?

What force is acting on the Earth to push it upwards?

How do satalites (like GPS) stay in space above the planet without being refueled constantly?

If gravity isn't real, then why do some planets have rings?

If this is some grand conspiracy, how did the person aho told you come to find it?

Answering with "look it up." Or anyform if that, is admitting defeat.
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>>18717697
Holograms or something. Good luck getting a real answer.
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>>18715894

then i owe you a thanks for the laughs
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>>18717632
>Let's not forget perspective wise, the moon and sun are the same size.

You mean the same angular size. And that's not correct either. Both the sun and the moon change angular size over the course of a year/month, due to eccentricity of their orbits. Hence things like "supermoons" where the moon appears larger.

>since angular size is the same, you can conclude that their distance is the same.

No, this isn't remotely true. You can hold up a coin until it's the size of the moon, this doesn't mean, the coin is the same distance as the moon.

Futhermore, the Ancient Greeks were quite aware that the sun was significantly further away than the moon, and therefore much larger.

The phases of the moon are the same as the phases of the earth. That is the half waxing moon is directly overhead at dawn, and so on. Thus the sun must be much, much further away. This is also how they determined the sun's rays are parallel for Erastothenes famous experiment.
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>>18717703
Pray for my sanity.

Why are people even engaging with these trolls?
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>>18717723
I don't know, I can't help myself. I know they'll never try to understand, but I do it anyway.
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>>18716313
Boiingg
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flatearthfags should just maek 1 general and remake on drop instead of 102039 fucking posts about it.
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>>18717723
Cus unfortunately the people who believe in the Flat-Earth are genuinely that retarded and not trolling.
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>>18717697

If the Earth is a globe where is the classroom?

Why don't Australians feel like they are upsidedown?

Why is gravity strong enough to hold literally all matter on earth, yet insects can fly at ease?

Why can't NASA take a picture of Earth?

How is it remotely possible that gas and atmosphere can exist contained in a tight sphere immediately adjacent to a vacuum?

Why does an object spinning at rapid rates of speed not eject it's contents when we ourselves can pretty easily leave earth plane?

Why does an object traveling rapisly into infinity always have the same view of space?

Why are you mad?
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>>18717691
Artificial horizon is a gyroscope. They maintain their orientation despite the outside object attached to them chagning position. In the case of a planegoing from the us to Australia, the plane is upside down, and it should be indicated on the artificial horizon, but it doesn't. The is no counter evidence to refute this. Ask any engineer.

>>18717658
>>18717719
I'm not clueless actually thanks for the insult I love them. The angular size change is not drastic, so is irrelevant. Now to both of you, I'm aware of the coin argument being the same size as the moon. But my question to you is, if the coin emitted light, would it cast the same length of shadow as the moon or sun? If it does, then you cannot prove the distances being different between the sun and the moon, so at that point you will have to rely on some other form of validating the suns distance. So by saying that the Greeks knew the sun was farther away, the burden of evidence falls on you.
Here is some help btw:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fk_NzMejP-0
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>>18717768
Yay a shill has come! Fuck off, same old repetitive post about every 10 posts.
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>>18717831
>If the Earth is a globe where is the classroom?
Kek

>Why don't Australians feel like they are upsidedown?
Direction is relative in the void of space.

>Why is gravity strong enough to hold literally all matter on earth, yet insects can fly at ease?
Smaller mass means less gravitational pull

>Why can't NASA take a picture of Earth?
They do.

>How is it remotely possible that gas and atmosphere can exist contained in a tight sphere immediately adjacent to a vacuum?
Gasses still have mass that is affected by gravity.

>Why does an object spinning at rapid rates of speed not eject it's contents when we ourselves can pretty easily leave earth plane?
>easily leave the earth 'plane'
Extremely vague. Please explain what 'easily' means to you.

>Why does an object traveling rapisly into infinity always have the same view of space?
Just how fucking close together do you think stars are?

>Why are you mad?
>implying
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>>18717853
I have yet to receive a check, so, not a shill.

>Fuck off, same old repetitive post about every 10 posts.
Maybe stop being a retard and you won't be so mad people call you retarded.
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>>18717891
Stop being a dick like every shill here and you won't be looped up into the same boat as them
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>>18716595
no moving clouds
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>>18717910
Why shouldn't I be a dick to someone this incredibly retarded?

>shill
When retards can't argue back.
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>>18717658
>>18717719
This guy apparently isn't clueless--> >>18717848

It doesn't prove a globe, and doesn't prove the distance to the sun either. The answer change based on which model you assume at the beginning of the experiment.
Here take this. Last paragraph sums it up.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Eratosthenes+on+Distance+of+the+Sun
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>>18717919
Typical reply. GTFO. You don't belong here sheckel lover
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>>18717831
>Why don't Australians feel like they are upsidedown?

Because they arent. Theyre rightside up according to gravity.

>Why is gravity strong enough to hold literally all matter on earth, yet insects can fly at ease?

Wings generate lift.

>Why can't NASA take a picture of Earth?

They can, have, and do.

>How is it remotely possible that gas and atmosphere can exist contained in a tight sphere immediately adjacent to a vacuum?

Gas has mass

>Why does an object spinning at rapid rates of speed not eject it's contents

Gravity

>when we ourselves can pretty easily leave earth plane?

It actually takes a lot of ebergy to get the lift required. Not that easy.
>Why does an object traveling rapisly into infinity always have the same view of space?

We don't.

>Why are you mad?

Because I saw the bait. I knew it was bait. Told myself "This is bait". And took the bait anyway.
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>>18717848
>>18717920
Someone save this shit and these links for future reference! So this eratothemes bullshit can be thrown in the trash every time a shill brings it up and newfags can be fast tracked into this easier!
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>>18717924
>sheckel lover
U mad, /pol/tard?
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>>18717831
>If the Earth is a globe where is the classroom?
This question makes no sense at all. Do you mean to say that the room a representational model is contained within is part of said model? There isn't actually a brass base and hinge on Earth, either.
>Why don't Australians feel like they are upsidedown?
Because things like 'up' and 'down' are relative to the strongest local center of mass, being Earth's center. There is no such thing as a universal 'down'.
>Why is gravity strong enough to hold literally all matter on Earth, yet insects can fly at ease?
Couple errors: Gravity is a local force that is actually fairly weak, only being strong enough to hold things together in a sphere at large collections. Also, insects are very efficient at flying, but that's a fluid dynamic, not defying gravity, and relative ease aside they have to expend energy to flap wings to stay aloft.
>Why can't NASA take a picture of Earth?
I know you'll reject all of them, but NASA and several other agencies have taken many thousands of pictures of Earth. Some are composited to show a continuous image while others are unmodified partials or have saturation problems when taken at 'full Earth', so truly flawless images are hard to get, but we have lots and lots of pictures of Earth.
>How is it remotely possible that gas and atmosphere blah blah...
Gravity. No, it isn't consistent that gravity is a weak force yet is sufficient to maintain our atmosphere, because it's competing with nothing. The atmosphere does thin radically toward the edge of space until it's almost vacuum, but at a certain height the molecules are as spread out as they can be and have nowhere to go but back down towards Earth.
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https://youtu.be/S4oT2EbDONs
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>>18717939
>a shill
but a flat earther brought it up for no particular reason and the article fails to acknowledge that the moon still gets a different result either away about it. If you just get to make shit up when the math disagrees with you, what good is any other measure of reason? Pictures are CGI, basic applied trig is wrong, and yet even the Greeks knew how fucking dumb flat earth was.
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I'm curious how old these flat earthers are. Like do they go to college? I wonder if they tell anyone their views.
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>>18717831
>>18717948
Continued responses
>Why does an object spinning at rapid rates not eject its contents..?
Gravity, again, and Newton's laws are sufficient for making sense of why we don't fly of of Earth. If Earth went from a dead stop to its present rotation in a day, we might possibly fly off of the Earth. At the very least there would be life-ending catastrophe as the plates slid over one another. As it is, we don't have to deal with significant slowing or speeding to Earth's rotations, and we have a rate of spin that doesn't exert enough force to overcome gravity (though there is a real, measurable difference between the equator and the poles, which is unfortunately a major problem for flat Earth to explain that is not even slightly troublesome for real science.) Also, it isn't easy to leave Earth's gravity well, if that's even what you mean. It's exceptionally difficult, though possible with a massive expenditure of kinetic force.
>Why does an object traveling into infinity always have the same view of space?
All objects in space are traveling according to their own local forces and are not traveling in the same direction. The parallax of astronomically distant objects is measurable throughout the year, and the star maps have changed over the course of human history, so you've identified a problem in astronomy that doesn't exist.
>Why are you mad?
Arrogant ignorance is annoying. You give yourself the advantage of being absolutely correct without having to know anything about anything, while giving yourself license to smugly dismiss people with knowledge of sciences as shills or sheep. So yeah, this shit does aggravate me.
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>>18716382
>ruler argument
ok kiddo
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>>18717967
I brought it up because his calculations were based on his assuming. His assuming proves neither model correct. Anon is right someone should save those for future reference. I brought the moon up. My question regarding it stands. If I had an answer as to what would happen with the moon in Eratosthenes' experiment I would have linked it/never asked in the first place. But I don't. So if the moon and sun are of the same size to the observer, them they should cast the same length of shadows, thus their distance away cannot be proven via this method, so you can't use it to prove the earth is a sphere, you can't use it to give me a distance or size, so Eratosthenes can't be used as a defense for ball earthers. It proves nothing other than you can make the length of a shadow change based on size of the light vs distance away vs shape of object being cast upon. Our math does not disagree with us anymore than it disagrees with you in this case. But it does help us, as that is one less thing for ballers to hide behind.
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>>18717948
Correction: said 'not consistent' when I meant 'not inconsistent'
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>>18717947
Shek shek sHEKELL!!!!
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>>18718036
Wow, I must be really bad at this shill thing you keep talking bout. lol
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>>18717981
> If there wasn't a clear abundance of evidence suggesting that there was a jewish masonic lie in the historical timeline concerning the gregorian calendar all the while studying anthropology and history in college, I wouldn't have stumbled onto flat earth except through watching century of the self then questioning jfk, nwo,911, flouide, satanist cabals, and therefore secret societies and their schemes.

I was taught what anyone who went to school was taught scientifically and had no reason to doubt it until recently. I was fascinated by space aand all its wonders.I learned about the physics and studied alot of science, but then I was shown to queston newton and einsteins theorys in favor of tesla thenleared how to change the hue of a nasa photo.

Then it was a redpill of its own, all of the photos of space on google were edited and pasted.

All in all socially, its suicide,
however the truth is so huge that it doesn't matter.
Just the thought of a iie so massive and impressive that it could only be woven by the father of lies himself blew my mind and simultaneously gave me peace of mind.

The greatest thing is its the "open minded" individuals who are the worst in degree of social programming. They are typically good people but react as all people do when theyre told the foundaton of their beliefs of what is truth is a lie created by luciferian illusionists.
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>>18717981
Probably varies considerably. Why? You think its just a bunch of neckbeard trolls? Or aplhbet soup agencies that go home every night to there shit families? Does age even matter in any case? I don't think so. Every now and again a supposed engineer or scientist pops up too.
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>>18718018
Here are several other armchair proofs for the spheroid Earth: The seasons, the yearly parallax of stars, time zones, commercial airplane flight paths plotted on a globe verses the flat Earth map, the southern hemisphere having different stars that seem to rotate the opposite direction around the axis near sigma octantis...
You get the point. There are several common sense refutations of flat Earth that don't require maths (except the commercial flight paths comparison. You'll need to know how to figure spheric section distances, but that's not terribly advanced.)
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>>18718076
Welcome Neo, to the real world.
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>>18718090
All of those were answered in the last thread. Google is your friend here. Armchair proofs are just that, armchair proofs. Something youre told, shown a little supposed evidence, and then never think twice about again. After a generation or two, roots take hold so deep people are willing to fight you over factual evidence. The matrix has you Neo. A world that had been pulled over your eyes lol
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>>18717848
>>18717848
>would it cast the same length of shadow as the moon or sun?

no
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>>18718114
I'd love to know how flat Earth could possibly be true. If there was a single shred of reliable evidence I might shift my confidence in the consensus, but all of the apologies for flat Earth are complete bullshit. What I need, what any reasonable skeptic should need, is evidence that supports flat Earth over physics.
There is nothing to indicate that Earth plays by different rules than any other object, relativity theory is not hypothetical, it's an objective model that is actually used for designing deep space telescopes and programming artificial satellites.
The challenges to flat Earth have no been adequately explained. The fact that the relative rotation of the southern sky is opposite that of the northern sky actually makes sense with the spheroid model without bringing up additional weird inconsistencies that have to be specially explained with a post hoc excuse. The fact that it is day for part of the world and night for the rest makes sense with the spheroid Earth etc.
The flat Earth is a nightmare of twisted rationalizations with no explanatory power and a utter nonsense plot (easily falsifiable, comprehensive conspiracy through all history involving all inquisitive minds for no discernible reason?) I would challenge you to use flat Earth mathematical figures to put a satellite in whatever you consider 'orbit', but I'm guessing the answer to that is that satellites are fake, too. Flat Earth bears no fruit, and even if I didn't have a fair degree of confidence in my knowledge of astronomy and physics I would consider that reason enough to disbelieve your claims.
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If flat earth is real, answer these two things then
>What's on the flipside?
>What's the point of hiding this knowledge from the people?

Two simple questions.
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>>18718018
>I brought it up because his calculations were based on his assuming.


No they weren't. It was based on direct measurements and observations.
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>>18718212
God or some shit
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>>18718076
Schools do not teach scientifically, they teach dogmatically.
It just so happens that most of the scientific facts they teach are reliable and true, except where it's infiltrated by theocratic fairy tales.
It is unfortunate that they don't do a better job teaching critical thinking, though. Without knowing the skill of thinking, they can't tell the difference between the facts they were spoonfed in class and horseshit like flat Earth and they wind up making fools of themselves on the internet.
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>>18718241
No, they teach scientifically. That's why the have labs and conduct experiments.
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>>18718233
Fitting, since they seem to be as devout to this idiocy like religious people to their 'holy books'.
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>>18718241
Oh no, idiots making fools of them selves on the Internet? Oh the humanity
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>>18718212
>underworld mentioned in every ancient human myth ever, duh. As above so below.
>its hard to explain but it leads to nwo and big government, by controlling the peoples perception of the world, you create their reality, just go from there.

No globe= no space= no big bang= no evolution= intelligent design and gods= human life value guaranteed= kingdom of the heavens on earth( civilization in line with the stars)= aligned chakras and spiritual balance= loss of power to the parasitc outlanders


rather than enslavement to corporate body attempting to be god with the keys to the heavens i.e. NASA and control of health trade and education.
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>>18718254
So you know, I've been refuting flat Earth this whole time and take science very seriously, but I'm not prepared to defend the USA's embarrassing public schools and I think that flat Earth is usually a combination of a failure to instill critical thinking, which is partly the fault of schools, and religious inculcation.
Experiments in the sense that a PhD scientist would understand them require making a testable prediction with a condition of failure, so university sciences are taught scientifically, whereas the labs and soda volcanos in primary and high schools are more like baking cookies from a recipe. You don't actually require the students to learn how to understand and utilize the scientific method, you just have them do rote memorization and regurgitation.
So I stick by my assertion that by and large, the accusation of public schools teaching dogmatically is accurate, even though the conclusion that the material then becomes false or unreliable is faulty.
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>>18718300
...so reality is the Truman Show?

>it's hard to explain
Is it cus you can't back this shit up with anything beyond new-age crap?

Jeeze, you must have a very bleak outlook on life if you need this cult-like thinking to give your life meaning as opposed to just giving your life a meaning.
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>>18715883
Filled with ball tards that can't provide any evidence besides the earth is round other then some cheap cgi.
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>>18718326
>it's the fault of the schools

No. These are all people who have purposefully ignored everything they've learned in schools. This sin't the school's fault. Blaming them is almost as dumb as thinking the earth's flat.
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>>18718300
>underworld mentioned in every human myth

Because primitive cultures have no understanding of the complicated theory of "caves are a thing."
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>>18718326
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

American schools are shitty, but thinking they intentionally mislead beyond sociology classes makes someone genuinely retarded
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>>18716337

You're just a disinfo agent shitposting to keep the truth from getting out!
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>>18718241
>schools dont teach scientifically
yes they do
>Schools teach dogmatically
which is why I did my own study after school
>most of what they teach is true
Sooo they tecah scientific dogmas...like globe earth and... gravity?
>except when it's infiltrated by theocratic fairy tales
similar to the government and scientific community being infltrated by that cabal of luciferian illusionists I mentioned?

It is unfortunate that they don't do a better job teaching critical thinking,

What you're trying to say is the school should have done a better job at conditioning my thinking with their dogmas because most of it is true except that which you refuse to accept as false.

I understand fighting flat earth but when you finally understand other answers will be easily answerable.
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>>18718290
Okay, the real horror is when these people start influencing public opinion and then policy. It's important that people be embarrassed to hold these opinions because otherwise you start convincing people that there is a debate. Biology is science, there is no other side. Astronomy is science, there is no other side. Germ theory is science, there is no other side. Chemistry is science, there is no other side.
There are fairy tales like flat Earth, intelligent design, vitalism and phlogiston, but they have no evidence to support them as real and we might actually regress as a science when we treat science and fiction as equally valid.
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>>18718362
I didn't say they intentionally mislead, except when they teach intelligent design, as is still done in several southern states. I said they fail to equip students with critical thinking skills. I also said that most of the scientific fact is still reliable, again with the caveat that sometimes fiction actually is presented in place of science.
Thinking public schools could stand to be dramatically improved is not equivalent to denying reality.
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>>18718416
I was agreeing with you.
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>>18718217
No they fucking weren't didn't you read or follow anything anon just said or has been linked? ERATOTHENES ASSUMED THE EARTH WAS A SPHERE AND THAT THE SUN WAS FAR AWAY FOR HIS CALCULATIONS. So the experiment wqs flawed from the get go. Now his math was fine, but the experiment was flawed.
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>>18718344
What so bleak about living under a dome with a wall of ice around it. If anything, you should be turning your attention away from the lie and more curious about the fact that the world is not what has been shown. Therefore you should go see it for yourself.

What if I told you several worlds exist concurrently alongside this one, only divided by time and choice. I bet thatd sound familiar.

The thing is despite the fact obviously we are entering a new age, There are forces being hidden from you to protect the balance of the other worlds. We are the third world of the real world.

The real world is much larger and has several enclosures similar to this one. The plane is endless and their are ways out of this enclosure you just have to find them if thats what you really want. Nothng changes you as a person and im not here to get anyone to join any cult. I didnt start this thread, its just nformation thatI researched in my time and using logic and reason I accepted I know nothing as I have never been to space.

Therefore I had to ask if I trusted the people responsible for telling me about the condition of the world.

The fact is I didn't trust freemasonic infiltrated organizations dude to previous research nto ther topcs on /pol/ and /x/.

I started with hollow earth because of antartica questions. Hollow earth lead me to flat earth, I had to actually study and read into newton and einstein to feel comfortable saying that i even remotely believed flat earth. Nevertheless Once I realized the flaws in the laws of physics.
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>>18718443
>>18718443
>assumed the sun was far away

No. He determined, by observation, that the sun was far away before he conducted his experiment. It wasn't an assumption. It was a given.
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>>18718451
>Dome with a wall of ice around it
>one big post of extreme paranoia
>even for an /x/ or /pol/ browser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xiWw5dwngc
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>>18718443
Making an assumption is actually fine in science, so long as you design tests to potentially falsify your assumption.
Einstein made a prediction based on his assumed model of relativity and tested it at an eclipse. If his prediction hadn't been precisely correct it would have falsified his assumption. Science starts with observation and previous models, builds into educated predictions for possible new or updated models, then tests those predictions for utility.
By the way, although he was able to provide proof-of-concept, we have progressed a lot since Erotosthenes and typically rely on the most up-to-date model with the most precisely reliable utility.
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>>18718451
>What so bleak about living under a dome with a wall of ice around it.
What's bleak about it is that you think we live in what is essentially a fucking magical cage of ice we can't see.
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>>18718468
Addressing the other prong of the 'science is just assumptions' line of fallacious reasoning, I agree.
The sun has to be very far away, something that could be confirmed even in ancient times by marking the location of the sun's relative position in the sky as you travel from one city to another and notice no measurable parallax, though the angle does start to change. Changing angle & no clearly observable parallax leads to the reasonable conclusions that the Earth is spheroidal (or rather a sphere, as was assumed at the time) and the sun is very distant.
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>>18718193
Your post is full of shit. I've seen every question answered and then ignored by you fuckers. And relativity is a pile of shit. Don't believe me?
http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/GeneralRelativity.htm
Good thing I saved this link. It has critical evaluations of special relativity too. So don't say its not hypothetical when its already been proven to be false by its own teachings. Not everyone here is a fucking child. Some of us are in fact college level or beyond.
>>18718326
So far all the flat earthers on /x/ seem to be intelligent, it is the ball earthers losing their shit and spouting fallacies as proofs. If anything, its good flat earthers didn't pay attention in school. It's been fucking hard to unlearn this web of lies that I was taught. Not to mention the the repetitive shill posts of insults and constant basic questions that have already been answered in the thread they're in.

Shills and trolls and honest ball matyrs can't stop what is happening. Its too late for you.
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>>18718355
Here we go again.
>blaming them is as dumb as thinking the earth is flat
Nice try. I see what you did there. That's a subliminal loop tactic shills try. By linking "stupid dumb subject" with "believing in flat earth." Seen posts like this for days. I'm gonna start screencapping them together lol don't bother replying shill
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>>18718501
Or you could just look at the fucking moon,

>>18717719
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>>18718384
Another shill. Thanks for telling us that none of these subjects are open for debate, that really clears things up as far as how science works. Oh lawd we better not hold those crazy opinions in our heads! Oh no! We better go with the flow better not start a ruckus with facts that disprove the mainstream model ohhhh no! I'm so glad you came here to tell us that believing in those things is "regressing!" THIS SHIT IS FUCKING HILARIOUS!!!!!!
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>>18718512
This is what pisses me off. You don't actually answer those questions. I do know the apologies you are referring to and they don't make any sense. They don't work. They are impossible. And relativity is utilized in exactly the ways I have already said. Time dilation becomes a factor in programming satellites and Mars missions, and special relativity allows us to adjust for gravitic lensing. We actually do real things with the theory, which is why it is reliably held as true.
Your false equivocation for people living in reality is astounding when you can't make any part of your fiction stand up while science actually does shit. Please join reality or at the very least become suitably ashamed of your intentional ignorance and stop spreading it around where you might infect others.
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>>18718451
Yea or its a flat realm between two flat plates, and there is only an illusion of a dome because of the way light interacts with our eyes and environment. And beyond the Antarctic ice wall there are more earth ponds like this one with their own suns, for infinity in all directions.
>muh dick so bleak...
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>>18717027
BTFO
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>>18718544
Science is not a debate. It is not a democracy. There is not equal weight given to the consensus and fairy tales. If you have some kind of falsifiable test to objectively prove your side and it stands up to peer review, then the scientific community is forced to adopt your new, better hypothesis.
When you don't even have a hypothesis, just bald assertions and conjecture backed by fallacious rationalizations and endless excuses as to why your special belief if non-falsifiable, you aren't doing science at all.
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>>18718481
What if the ice enclosure doens't just keep us in, but keeps worst things out. And there is alot of characterizing attacking and projecting some sort of of mental disturbance on to me. but m totally clear headed, i have no reason to insult your thnkng or view but see that realty is often stranger than ficton.

My question is why even ask about that which you have no desire to understand just to insult the answers?
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>>18718575
Because it's wrong and all of the answers are stupid
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>>18718468
Motherfucker, he determined it was far away because he started with the possible false assumption that the earth was a sphere, and in his mind the sun would be far away. His results backed up his assumptions. Problem is that this experiment didn't prove the sun was far away, it merely gave him a measurement based on what he expected because of how he carried out the expirement. If he had started with the assumption that the earth was flat, he would have measured the sun being very close and much smaller. Which would have worked out just fine also, other than its not what he was expecting.
>>18718479
Assumptions are fine, except in this case he didn't prove jack shit. If anything he gave both spherical earth and flat earth credibility. Open your eyes and read the links that were posted earlier. Its was stated quite clearly.
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>>18718568
>your questions aren't fitting within my programmed boundaries of indoctrinated reasoning and conflict directly with my beliefs, therefore I must redefine your inquiries as nonsense, fairy tales, and conspiracy theories to safe guard the foundations of my perceived identity.
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>>18718501
Parallax is the sun changing angle when you change locations...and by eratothemes calculations assuming the earth being flat or spherical, allows for that minute change in angle. No one has given valid proof on how the ancients knew the sun was distant or massive. Youre all full of shit. Eratothenes didn't prove anything. Damn did anyone pass with a highschool education on here? Even the shills don't double check what they're talking about.
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>>18718575
>no desire to understand
Because your answers are vague, based pseudo-'science' and dogmatic belief that the Earth is flat and everything in the sky is a hologram or some shit. Plus this dome "keeps things out." Like what? Cthulu? Satan? Some other 'evil' from the myths of primitive man?

Watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGRRxOf6dU

>>18718597
Plus this.
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>>18718575
>reality is often stranger than fiction
Flat Earth is, ignoring the wealth of evidence we have for how things actually are, intuitive. If you dropped a truly ignorant person on the Earth and gave them no hints about reality, they would probably not picture anything like gravity or the spheroidal structure Earth.
Gravity is a force generated by and acting on all physical objects, whether a pencil or a supernova. The influence of this force is proportional to the inverse square by relative distance. It is one of four fundamental forces in our present model of physics and one observed constant of the effect of this force is that objects tend toward forming into spheroids the more massive they are.
None of that is intuitive. It required outside observation and testing and is not something I could naively imagine, so it is indeed stranger than fiction.
Why would you attempt you use the "reality is stranger than fiction" axiom to defend infantile fantasy?
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>>18718597
I guess an insignifcant flying ball in the vastness of empty space where there is no god and all came from nothng and nothing matters appeals to you as less bleak. I choose not to believe such a story unless i get a clear pcture of earth from space.

Insultng me doesn't change my observation, either get a good space picture yourself not from nasa or fuck off. At least the flat earthers put a camera on the balloons and show a flat horizon which is what I see when I climb mountains..
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>>18718549
Nice quoting time dilation. That article he linked to specifically states and shows how it can't work. So much for your satellites and science "doing things." Lol dumbass next time read you shill. He didn't answer them because they've already been answered. Hahahhaha
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>>18718619
>myths of primitive man

You think yourself more intelligent than your fore bearers and hence your ego blinds you from the truth. Start with the pyramids and work your way into reality.
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>>18718638
I don't need god to give my life meaning, and I don't need a picture from space to affirm reality.
I pity how narrow minded you are
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>>18718568
Hey bud, you just did exactly what anon was making fun of. By saying science is not a debate. Just like the post he referred to said it was not debatable. IT IS DEBATABLE, which apparently none of you shills/ballers understand. Stop being close minded fucktards.
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>>18718640
It specifically states a bunch of bullshit. Things that are clearly stated are not automatically true, and things that are difficult to understand, like relativity theory, are not unreliable just because you don't understand them. Your article is immediately irrelevant because objects orbiting Earth actually experience a few dozen microseconds of time dilation each day. You don't get to use sophistry to escape that, you have to provide a superior explanation for the disparity, which is not only observed after the fact but which was also predicted by Einstein's model, or somehow prove that satellites are yet another component to this impossibly vast satanic conspiracy to trick the world into believing the Earth is spheroidal for... reasons.
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>>18718665
Ancient man could stack rocks. Whoa.
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>>18718670
Knowing and understanding the mathematics that supports a globed earth does not equate to being closed-minded.
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>>18718597
Lol shill tactics.
>>18718608
Haha nice :)
>>18718619
Well actually most flat earthers work with concrete facts, the dome is just how light behaves at a distance through the atmosphere. The "dome" above is just the bottom of a plate like ours of the next density layer above us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMooNFtFJk

These two videos pretty much tell you how fucking retarded the idea of a flat Earth is.
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>>18718621
flat earth is not simply what you just decide to label it, whether it be pseudoscience or a folk tale. To me its a perspective of the world many thousands of years old that we use to navigate to this day. The oldest standing structures and maps in the word were built on a flat earth model and the greatest minds who have ever lived believed the earth was flat and obviously so.
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>>18718670
My mind is open to facts and evidence and things that are demonstrably true. In a sense I am close minded in that I am not willing to believe things that have no basis in reality, but I don't see how that's a weakness. I am ready and willing to believe in gods, UFOs, bigfoot, body thetans, fairies, crystal healing, telepathy, vampires, you name it.
But not before there is reliable, falsifiable evidence to indicate such a concept, and only such a concept, over any other to the exclusion of all others in a way that explains the entire body of relevant evidence in a way that provides descriptive power and utility.
In other words, it has to work. I'll admit it all day: If your idea doesn't work, then my mind is closed to it.
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>>18718621
I like how ballers relate flatties to primitive ignorant people, as if we aren't the same regular people as them in real life who have just stumbled onto some counter evidence. I also like how all things engineering wise have two parts, causation and effect. Like how if you pass electricity through a wire, it makes a magnetic field. Arrange iron atoms in the same direction, makes a magnet, but then ballers always fall back on gravity making a spherical earth. And there only explanation for causation is, well there's mass..but we don't know how it works but we do know that neil degrass Tyson proved it to be real by dropping a micnon stage. Never mind the fact that if you did have this magic force acting on all objects, a hollow earth would make more sense than the current model. But hey all you need is density in a flat earth model, no magic needed.
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>>18718680
Umm.. Yea I just got through reading it and it actually breaks down relativity using relativities own math and rules..no Satan needed. It literally disproves relativity using relativity...You're just trying to one-uo other anons.. Or you're just spouting shit off because you're fucking stupid...
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>>18718686
No but ignoring facts and arguments that shows that your globe model is wrong is.
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>>18718735
this.
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>>18718698
Flat Earth has been a fringe-belief for over two thousand years for a good reason: We literally can not actually get around while using it. For instance, circumnavigation of the Earth would be impossible using the flat Earth model. You would get hopelessly lost by miscalculating latitude and longitude. You literally can't actually navigate using it because it is false. It is a pseudoscience and it is wrong no matter how sincerely you believe in it.
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>>18718715
Okay, so in other words the arguments and facts flat earthers bring up should allow for your mind to open then. Ballers have a lot of disproving left...
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>>18718617
there is no observable parralax.
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>>18718685
they could stand rocks better than you can imagine.
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>>18718719
? Wrong side. I was saying that flat earthers have facts that cannot be answered by ball earth theorists. Not the other way around.
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>>18718735
What are some facts that dispute a globe Earth and support a flat Earth? Remember to cite your sources and provide the math, please.
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>>18718765
YouTube
>it's peer reviewed
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>>18718745
Funny cause there is actual documented cases of sailors consistently being off course in Samuel rowbothams compilation book. And that is using a spherical earth, not flat earth. This was only "fixed"*winknwink* after the installment of gps systems (ground based stations, not satellites) last I checked all navigation via map is on, well, a flat map...
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>>18718745
>Flat Earth has been a fringe-belief for over two thousand years

Explain Galileo's trial.

flat earth was the predominant understanding for over 20,000 years. It wasn't til copernicus that ball earth was taken seriously and that wasn't until he murdered tycho brahi. If you researched into it you'd know much about how globes came about, but you haven't and dont care to know, and so i'm not inclined to care if you choose to believe it or not.
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>>18718753
You stated there is no parrallax. Then stated that the sun does change angle. Which IS parallax. My question stands on how ancients knew how big/far away the sun is. Because Eratosthenes experiemtn is flawed and could work for flat and ball models respectively. So where is my alternate evidence that the sun is big and far away? Bigger and farther away than the moon? Cause they are the same size and bet his experiment would show the same results for the moon too. So is it 93 mil miles away also? And the sun close up? Disprove me. You can't. You have nothing.
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>>18718765
scroll back to the to dipshit. Short circular argument posts like this are why I feel like shills are in these threads, and the outsider way of communicating makes me uspicious about wy shills would even challenge these threads yet leave reptile alien threads alone.
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>>18718750
No, I've heard your arguments and they aren't compelling because they provide no useful evidence and are factually, demonstrably wrong.
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>>18718779
Rowbotham was a fucking hack. I can't believe people are still eating that shit up. Even when his supporters tested his shitty experiments they found it to be bullshit, like the Bedford Level experiment.
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Didn't get to reply to this dolt from the last thread:

>>18716870

>if the Earth is flat, it implies land is and eyesight would be parallel
>therefore, standing at a higher vantage point with a powerful telescope = further view
>FE postulates that there is a tall fucking ice wall around the border that keeps everything in
>Mauna Kea is 9000ft+
>Max tides = 200ft
>Ice Wall = approx. 2000-3000ft
>If FE is correct and view is parallel, you should be able to see over tide/waves to see ice wall

First of all, vision does not work in parallel lines. We see in an angular fashion with our visual range stretching out from our eyes like two big cones. I said earlier that anyone on the fence should pay attention to this person's posts because they're either extremely thick or think that you yourself are extremely thick to fall for such stupid reasoning and that you should think carefully about which side you really want to be on, and this is exactly what I was referring to. Why would a flat earth imply that vision somehow ran in parallel lines? When we draw to perspective we generally draw a flat ground. If we drew a curved surface it would be significantly more complicated. I'm not saying that this itself is proof of the flat earth, just that a spherical earth is unnecessary for the laws of perspective.

Anyway, back to the point at hand: Things grow smaller at a distance, this should be obvious to everyone. This happens as your field of view expands meaning that the more distant an object, the less space it takes up at that point. In this way I can blot out the sun with my thumb, not see a mountain beyond my house, or a moth can obscure a star in my telescope. That doesn't mean that the former objects are larger than the latter, just that they're closer. There's 1000km separating South America from Antarctica meaning that even if you're 9000' up high and looking through a telescope, the 3000' Antarctic wall will be obscured by seemingly gigantic waves in between you and it.
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>>18718803
>scroll back to the to dipshit.

That's not sufficient evidence, you fucking buffoon.
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https://www.google.com/amp/io9.gizmodo.com/a-historic-experiment-shows-why-we-might-not-want-to-de-1627339811/amp
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>>18718803
Oh fuck! They're on to us, guys! Remember we don't get our shill checks if they uncover too much, and under no circumstance are they to discover that our species has nearly replaced the filthy apes. Keep them suppresssed, my brethren, and remember not to mix up our IRC with the thread!
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>>18718823
Uh... hahaha! Lots of funny joking just now, yeah? Just trolling!
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>>18718788
Copernicus died 3 years before Brahe was born. How the fuck did he pull that murder off then?
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>>18718810
Why can you see a plane at 40,000 feet but you can't see past the horizon at 16,000 feet?
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>>18718765
Easy.
1. Artificial horizons don't tilt backwards on airplanes.
2. Challenger expedition around Antarctica (which is only about 10000 nautical miles in circumference) took a whopping 69000 nautical miles. Over 3x the circumference of the earth at equator.
3. James cook had the same problem. Sailed 59000 nautical miles.
4. Sailors consistently complained(even James cook) of sailing off course below the equator in the southern hemisphere in Samuel rowbothams book. These were not everyday sailors. They knew how to navigate.
5.Ball eaearth has a magnetosphere cause by either a solid core or a spinning liquid core depending on who you talk to. Impossible, since when magnets heat up they lose their magnetic properties, and in the latter there is no field to start the excitation, or to cause the molten core to spin in the first place.
6. Things that go straight up like bullets hot air balloons and helicopters do not land farther west despite having to travel a greater circumference around the earth while being farther away from the rotational axis at such heights. This directly causes problems with the coriolis effect.
Just to name a few...sources? This isn't your English class, you have the internet and a brain.
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>>18718829
I meant Kepler. Who carried on Copernican heliocentric model in his assistant position under brahe and inherited his observatory and patronage after his sudden death. your mockery was deserved.
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>>18718842
When you put forward an argument, especially one that concerns data and mathematics, it's important to provide credible sources to back up your claim. Otherwise, it's not unreasonable to dismiss the claim. This is basic reasoning and debate etiquette, and telling me to Google it doesn't prove jack shit.
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>>18718851
Do you have evidence that undoubtedly proves that Kepler murdered Brahe to perpetuate Copernicus's model?
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>>18718805
See
>>18718842

>>18718808
Oh that's great, because I'm just talking about the parts where he quotes what other sailors say, not him. So his opinion doesn't matter thanks for pointing that out.
>>18718835
Lol because your not looking sideways across the bottom of a dirty fish tank? Heavier particles sit lower to the ground while in suspension in the air, so the air above you is easier to see through, not to mention less and less thick...
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>>18718852
>posts no sources supporting ball earth, while endlessly questioning flat earthers on their logic and enthralling them with endless wit and insults.
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>>18718869
Until I am provided with sufficient evidence backed up by credible sources, I will continue to question their logic. So far, all I've gotten is "just Google it lmao".
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>>18718863
>Do you have evidence of a several hundred year old muder.

Yea I have the smoking gun and autopsied body in my closet. The circumstancial evidence surrounding the death of brahe in itself is one of several hundred reasons to question the men who presented the heliocentric model before the 19th century.

Do you have one soild photo of the earth from space?
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>>18718852
Yea I could understand that if we were talking about what a specific professor said about electrons being ejected that were in the lymann series from hydrogen. But were talking about simple things like "how far a saillor traveled." It has every stop they made right there on wiki. Increasing altitude is basic geometry, the further you get from the center axis of rotation the greater the circumference you travel. Without increasing speed you "lag behind" the earth beneath you which is spinning ad fast as you are. Simple stuff man.
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>>18718893
Do you need NASA to tell you how to Google it, or to tell you that googling is okay?
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Okay, honestly I'm done, because there are several questions that I would need answered before I took this seriously, and I'm angry at myself for even wasting time on this. And for accidentally hinting at my reptilian nature. Kidding! Or zeitgeist! You decide ;)
Anyway, those questions are:
Do you agree that reality exists in one particular way, regardless of what anyone believes? My answer is yes.
Do you agree that it is possible to build models of objective reality that have utility through observation and testing? (Yes.)
Do you agree that only one side can be correct, and the other must be incorrect owing to its inadequacy to fit the available evidence? Yes again.
What would you accept to conclude that you are wrong? For me, the answer is evidence. If we found that the entire universe was accelerating in one direction at a constant rate, which would require relativity to be false (don't think I don't know why you wanted that narrative to pass the smell test)
Do you agree that you would rather operate on an accurate and working model of reality? Yes.
Are you willing to abandon arguments forever once they are shown to be inadequate or false? Yes.
Are you willing to protect your beliefs against falsification? No. Post hoc? No. Lie? No.
So yeah, have a good night, and have fun with my questionnaire.
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>>18718893
So after ignoring the countless threads worth of information and links to the information you request you choose to just bait flat earth people and expect to be spoon fed the truth jst so you can tell them theyre stupid for telling you?

whats your sufficient evidence that the earth is not flat?

Seriously people spent alot of time researching and learning to fight the 12 year programming pulled over their eyes. fuck off and google it yourself if youre just gonna be a lazy douche, or just stay in your masonic dreamworld.
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>>18718868
Okay, so why can you suddenly see 300,000 feet across lake Michigan to see Chicago which is always given as evidence of a flat earth? Shouldn't the air still be too dense to see through?
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>>18718914
Asking for sources is not asking to be spoonfed. It is your responsibility to provide sources to your claims. Otherwise, I could spout all the bullshit I want and absolve myself of all intellectual honestly by dismissing the other party as lazy because they asked for evidence. Not providing sources is fucking lazy -- asking for them when they are absent is not.

Once again, saying "Google it" is not evidence, so cut it out.
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>>18718906
Wow. Good job. You're reptilians ways are so 1337. Too bad you haven't followed your own reptilian questionnaire,because you've got some questions that need to be answered. Like the post earlier about relativity being false? Bad move putting that in your post and saying it needed to be proven false. You shills don't fucking read do you? Every post you make helps us gain another flat earther in our ranks because you prove yourselves wrong by your own logic and data, and then they come along and spot your errors. LOL
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http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Why+the+earth+is+round
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>>18718904
No, my argument pertains to the nature of telling someone to "Google it", and that it is insufficient evidence to a claim. It's intellectual dishonesty.
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>>18718937
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Op+is+a+faggot&l=1
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>>18718788
No. Ancient Greeks knew that the earth is round, so did ancient Egyptians. They probably knew about precession of equinoxes, too
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>>18718954
I remember watching a Disney cartoon back in the day, had like Donald duck playing pool talking about ooctaves n shit, and I remember it had the Greek philosopher s talking about the flat earth, then a small squeaky guy said "maybe the earths is round?" (Ptolemy maybe?) And they all shush him and tell him to be quiet.. As I kid I thought they were being mean to him, but as I got older I thought that perhaps he was a trouble maker. This could possibly tie into the Jesuit conspiracy part, Idk.
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To this day I cannot believe that anyone would seriously think that the flat earth shit is real.
Its just a bunch of people trollin' around. No fucking way people are that stupid.
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>>18719133
Shill shill shill shill do not come to our thread unless you wish to talk about flat earth and how it works vs sphere earth please leave leave leave
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>>18715883
shillfag

flat earth is biblical
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>>18715883
since /x/ is the most retarded board on chan yeah iwould say so
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>>18719133

God damn it will you shut the fuck up you fuckin shill? Every goddamn minute you turds are here trying to sway the naive people on the fence. Low. Why don't you get real jobs instead of sucking George soros's taint for quarters?
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>>18718921
Depends on the weather. Sometimes you can see for miles and miles, sometimes you can't see your own hand in front of your face.
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>>18719235
Why are you here?
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>being a sphere queer
Wew. I steer clear of sphere queers.
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trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls being gay
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>>18718954
Which Ancient Greeks? Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Eratosthenes? That's 4 Greeks. Prove to me that the whole of Greece believed the Earth to be spherical at any point back then. It was flat according to their mythology. It was flat according to Hesiod and Homer. There were plenty of other philosophers than the aforementioned four and you never hear about them saying the world was a sphere.

The Ancient Egyptians one is completely new to me. This one you're definitely going to have to back up with more than four words.
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>>18719269
For the record, this is how the Ancient Egyptians saw the world. That's Nut there arching across the top. She's the goddess of the sky and that's her draped over the world.
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>>18719277
For the further record, this fella in the middle is Atlas. His punishment for siding with Cronus in his battle against Zeus was to hold up the heavens for the rest of eternity. He is commonly depicted nowadays as holding a globe Earth, but this is wrong. He was turned to stone by Perseus wielding the head of Medusa and the mountain that were his remains was smashed through by Hercules leaving what we call today The Pillars of Hercules, that sit either side the Straits of Gibraltar.

Also, the heavens were Uranus, Cronus's dad and the earth is Gaia, his mother. These are primordial gods, greater than the titans and far, far greater than much lesser deities such as Helios and Selene: the sun and the moon.
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>>18715894
>shills are trolls
First day on 4chan ?
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>>18719269
>Comparing scientists (Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Eratosthenes) and storytellers (Hesiod and Homer)
>Like "people knows elves don't exists? Bullshit, WHAT ABOUT TOLKIEN?"
>Being this retard
>Yes, it's a flat brainer

No ancient culture believed in flat earth, not everybody knew about it (in the same way not everybody knew how to read or do math) but everybody with a little culture knew that earth is not flat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession
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>>18719277
And eductational read, in case you're too lazy to do it yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

TL;DR: modern flat earthers knows LESS about the world than the people living in the fucking bronze age
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>>18719301
>Comparing scientists (Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Eratosthenes) and storytellers (Hesiod and Homer)
>Like "people knows elves don't exists? Bullshit, WHAT ABOUT TOLKIEN?"
>Being this retard
>Yes, it's a flat brainer

You're talking about the fundamental beliefs of a culture. My challenge still stands. Give me proof that this belief went beyond these four philosophers.

>Posts link about axial precession
>Implying that this flimsy explanation for the precession of the equinox is proof of anything
>Doesn't understand how damning to the sphere model it is to realise that the only change you'll find in the stars over thousands of years is that a different sign rises with the sun at the vernal equinox
>Best they can come up with is "it wobbles"

>>18719313
>TL;DR: modern flat earthers knows LESS about the world than the people living in the fucking bronze age
>Posts link that refers to the middle ages
>Doesn't realise that medieval Christianity in Europe was largely shaped by Saint Augustine who was influenced by Plato and Thomas Aquinas
who was influenced by Aristotle.

Get off wikipedia and get yourself a proper education you pleb! And don't dismiss the classics so flippantly. You obviously have no idea of their worth.
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>>18719301
Also, SCIENTISTS?! How did I let that one slip? You dare to call these men scientists? Do you have no shame? Science has been trying to usurp philosophy's throne for over 3 centuries now and you dare to call even the person who coined the word philosophy a scientist? You can just go and get fucked sir. Fucked right up the arse.
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>>18715883
Flat earthing the most powerful trolling tool known to man. My god it's ingenious.
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>>18719371
- You failed to even read the article: "there never was a period of 'flat Earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the Earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."

TL;DR: you can't even read a wikipedia article. LOL

>>18719387
You did that one slip becuse of you're a retard. Science = making predictions that can be verified or falsified. So they were scientists (even if they were not called that).

I think you misunderstand the meaning of philosophy...... As you misunderstand everything else, it seems
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>>18719406
Shills switching gears. Happens every time I wreck em.
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>>18719412
Dear flat brainer PLS explain:
- Why is sun always the same size in the sky? If it was near and moving far enough to disappear at night we should be able to detect the variation
- Why people living on opposite sides of a flat disc still see the sky in the same way in the southern hemisphere?
- Why do circumpolar constellations in the night sky vary when you move north to south?

Flat brain 0 - Round earth 3
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>>18719411
You left out "According to Stephen Jay Gould,"

You can't even quote a wikipedia article. And seriously, don't get your information from wikipedia. You wont learn anything.

>You did that one slip becuse of you're a retard. Science = making predictions that can be verified or falsified. So they were scientists (even if they were not called that).

Maybe you should actually read some of their work before you make stupid comments like that.

>I think you misunderstand the meaning of philosophy

I have a degree in philosophy. Philos means "the love of", sophia means "wisdom".
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>>18719422
>- Why is sun always the same size in the sky? If it was near and moving far enough to disappear at night we should be able to detect the variation
It's not.

>- Why people living on opposite sides of a flat disc still see the sky in the same way in the southern hemisphere?

You mean the stars? They rotate with the sun meaning they follow the night to whichever part of the southern hemisphere you might be referring to.

>- Why do circumpolar constellations in the night sky vary when you move north to south?

Do you mean, why can't I see the north star down here in the southern hemisphere? Well I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean much considering I can never see all that many stars where I live. I've heard that it's been sighted far further south than should be possible on the globe, but in any case, the further away you move from any star, the lower down it will be on the horizon for you. Eventually, if you're far enough away, it will disappear behind whatever stuff you've got blocking your view above your horizon (mountains, trees, buildings, atmosphere, whatever) or it will simply be lost in the vanishing point.
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>>18719425
>I have a degree in philosophy
Well, here's your problem. Learn some scientific method, discover that you're not a scientist, then we can talk....

>>18719447
>It's not.
Ok, that just trolling. No one can be that stupid
>You mean the stars? They rotate with the sun
You realize that if this was true you'd see the sky moving sideways during the night instead of rotating around a fixed point? Also, PLS explain why the rotation in the northern and souther hemisphere is in the opposite direction
>Do you mean, why can't I see the north star down here in the southern hemisphere?
Partly but no. If you move from north to south the stars never "sinking" above the horizion are different if you move north to south. On a round globe it's intuitive. On a flat planet it's impossible.

Also, care to give me the eight of the stars above your flat earth? I can do the math and show you that they would never go below the horizion, I can even calculate the minimun height above the horizon. Same for the sun,

So, round globe: 6 - flat brain 0
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>>18717966
>went to bed
>woke up
>still waiting for a roundy to explain how a landmass that should be entirely underwater is completely in view from sea level
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>>18718012
a long enough ruler should work

a guy did it optically in the 1880s and it never found a curve


now days we knwo the supposed math of the curve but it never matches real life observations where we see ships mountains and buildings when they are supposedly "under the curve"


hard for me to believe in a flat earth but hwen I see shit like this it really fucks with me
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>>18718928
>it's your responsibility to teach me

No.
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>>18717134
wow yeh lol heheh fish eye lenses were invented by satanic jews to trick us into believing the earth is a different shape for ??? reasons ???
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>>18719513
Rowbotham has been discredited a million times over for a faulty experiment. He didn't account for light refraction over the water (which every surveyor at that time knew about)
When the experiment was reworked with multiple points, it confirmed a round earth. Not to mention the experiment cannot be duplicated over dry land
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>>18715916
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>>18717831
Physics for 5 year olds... kek...do you even Maths bro?
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>>18719422
1.Due to light refraction through atmosphere as it travels. As it gets farther away its magnified by the amount of crap it travels through. On a clear day it appears smaller at the horizon.

2.Because the flat sky is rotating. Airys failure proves both the sky is rotating, and there is a static aether field.

3.Same reason anything trails off into the horizon. Why the fuck does this one even need answering? Seen it a millions times.
Check your scorecard faggot shill.
>>18719477
Troll? Hardly. No points for you.

2.holy fuck do you mean the stars travel the same direction as the sun? Lol both travel around the north pole star dummy, not in straight goddamn lines...the only proof or reverse rotating is from modern science. None of us have ever been down there, and Samuel rowbothams book contains quotes of sailors where they said the stars still rotated from northeast to northwest, if less pronounced. In other words like getting farther out on the edge of a CD and looking towards the middle.
3.its sinks like anything falling into the horizon at a certain distance...you're just rehashing the same old shit that's already been answered
All points to flatties.
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>>18719555
Yea but noone reads his book, which contains a shitton of actual accounts from sailors. You can call him a quack, but not the explorer for British navy James cook, or the countless others WHOSE ACTUAL JOB WAS TO NAVIGATE BY THE STARS AND WERE LIKE GUYS...SOMETHINGS NOT RIGHT, WERE CONSISTENTLY OFF COURSE...
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>>18715883
Hi faggot retard op.
Do you think the earth is flat because of religious reasons?
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>>18719867
He was not able to provide any meaningful solution. So basically he just says "sailing is tough and inaccurate "
As the technology got better there were fewer issues with sailors going off course starting around the 1860s with the age of steam ships
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>>18719858
>the only proof or reverse rotating is from modern science
I don't know how many people live in the southern hemisphere, but you're saying that NOT ONE of them noticed that the whole goddamn night sky behaves in the opposite way that it should.... LOL

Wow... And STILL you can't supply me with a simple number (the height of the sky above the earth), so with simple math I can calculate at which height above the horizon te sun can NEVER go......
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>>18719878
Hi shill. Go fuck yourself.
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>>18720163
You didn't answer my question, answer and I will consider killing myself
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>>18718954
>precession of the equinoxes

tell me , how would a god fearing bronze age age culture who actually believed the earth was flat hence underworld stories, know about a 26,0000 year cycle of the sun and constellations unless they have first noticed that there was a cycle then having measured it first hand, requiring minimally 58,0000 years of observation and calculation and reaching a mathematical precise system that we carry on til this day. BUT OH WAIT HUMAN ONLY DEVELOPED WRITING IN THE LAST 4000 YEARS

therefore you should respect the knowledge that your ancestors were smarter than modern man in many regards and thus should begin your research there.
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>>18719923
Back up your statement. Did those steamships navigate the Antarctic? I want data.

Its not about whether he provided a solution. Its about his compiled accounts of sailors observing what contradicts globe earth theory. You have to defend your globe earth, not the other way around. Or are you telling me that sailors who NAVIGATED BY THE STARS TO LITERALLY STAY ALIVE AND CHARTED NEW LAND WERE -ALL- INCOMPETENT? The burden of proof lies with you.
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I can post pictures of a round earth. Can anyone in here post a photo of a flat earth?

/thread
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>>18720072
I don't understand your second part... Please rewrite it.

Maybe they never noticed that the stars still rise from a slightly northeast direction and still set in a slightly northwest direction. After all that's what multiple accounts in Samuel rowbothams book states. We can't trust evidence from the Antarctic station, as it could be filmed up north for all we know and the video mirrored. Most of those sailors also couldn't see the southern cross at the same latitude, never mention it always staying in the sky like Polaris either. I also don't believe they ever seen it from the tip of south america, only from Africa and australia , which makes since on a flat earth map.
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>>18719412
>you can see the behavior the more you post, its something about the way they question that isn't indicative of trying to learn but disrupt the thought process and appeal to shame, (jew and roastie tools).. it also isn't natural in the sense that there is a hidden dialect on 4chan that contantly changes yet is the source of all bant.
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>>18720183
Its flat regardless of your religious tendencies.
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>>18720275
You put that like a fact, bro, when you should say it like it really is "a few lunatic's theory".
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>>18715894
haha I agree but seriously we can't let flat-eathers get control of the nuclear codes.
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>>18720331
This.
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>>18720283
Like the theory of gravity and Pythagoras' theorem.
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>>18720269
Nothing but goddamn shills and AI replybots man. Fuck em. Every time a newfag shows up and reads through this shit, it'll be obvious enough.
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>>18717966
Still waiting for an explanation
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>>18720247
Before the age of sail, most navigation was done in relation to the coastlines, with the exception of some Mediterranean Sea travel and the impressively accurate navigation by the Polynesians who navigated by the positin of the sun and stars in the southern hemisphere.
In the age of sail, astrolabes and compasses became the norm, but the largest problems in navigation here were that ships were bound to wind patterns, travel from Europe to the new world is relatively straightforward, but straying from those predictable winds led to more unpredictable journeys. Couple this with wildly inaccurate maps of the new world vs the old world and a lack of accurate means of timekeeping across large areas (time zones wouldn't become a concept until rail caught on)
By the time you reach the age of steam all of these things were in place. You no longer needed to rely on wind patterns, charts and almanacs became more accurate which meant sextants and compasses provided more accurate positioning.
The flat eart model may account for some anecdotal accounts of sailors taking longer journeys than planned, but it doesn't account for the vast increases in navigational proficiency that took place, based on a spherical earth prior to the invention of radio and electronic positioning technologies
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>>18720386
What the fuck is wrong with the pythagorean theorem? Mathematic theorems /= scientific theory
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>>18720382
Or round earth theory, or flat earth theory.

This is how modern day sci3nce addresses any topic that that questions modern knowledge and authority:

>*laughs hysterically*
>you aren't STUPID are you?
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>>18720383
>>18720419 was meant for this post
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>>18720419
>ignores the theory of gravity

On cue
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>>18720389

wow a real experiement. this is pretty convicing
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>>18720433
Seriously though, I get gravity is complicated, fine.
What is wrong with the pythagorean theorem? Is it just because it has theorem in the name?
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>>18716689

Is that a meme post? I've seen that too.
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>>18717153
>wake up
>STILL haven't been giving an explanation as to how NASA keeps getting away with it

I'm waiting globerounderballers
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>>18720460
>created a stand

JOTARO!
MUDADA
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>>18717966
At about 2:50 when they move to a higher elevation more of the bottom of the island becomes visible. Why would more distance and a higher elevation increase the view of the BOTTOM of the island if the earth is flat?
Show me a comparable experiment done on dry land so we can rule out atmospheric lensing
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>>18717253
this is just cgi, ffs
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Wait a second, are all the planets flat, including the moon, or is just a special thing for us earthlings?
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>>18720510
I think earth is supposed to be special because of god and every government is covering it up to please satan by turning us away
OIr something
The other planets are either spheres are discs depending on who you ask

Pretty good lore in this anime tbqh
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>>18720382
You know that you can actually calculate those with real number, right?
Do you know what you cannot calculate? Earth flatness. kek
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>>18720522
what if earth was round but every other planet and stars are flat ?
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>>18718810
>There's 1000km separating South America from Antarctica meaning that even if you're 9000' up high and looking through a telescope, the 3000' Antarctic wall will be obscured by seemingly gigantic waves in between you and it.
If you're at a higher altitude looking at something on a lower altitude, the only thing that can obscure it is something getting directly between you and it. There's just no way the sea could do that unless the waves really were gigantic.

If things aren't actually disappearing below the horizon, and there isn't sufficient matter obscuring them, sufficient magnification should be able to bring them into view.
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>>18720610
New thread losers
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>>18720473
cgi and effective lying campaign, also people will believe a lie told 1000 times. and die defending it
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>>18720549
After 1000km the angle of your vantage point to the object being viewed would by minimal, meaning that there's plenty of room for the very large waves in between to block your view. Come on, you should know this. This is the same reason you say that the Sun's rays are parallel by the time they reach Earth.
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Earth is flat dude,deal with it.
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>>18717179
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