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Was Ted Bundy possessed?

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>had an unusual chameleon like ability to change his appearance at will
>at times his face seemed to distort and made observers feel immense dread as if he was going to kill them (witness accounts from investigators and psychiatrists)
>some even noted a foul odor emitting from him
>ted himself spoke of an 'entity' within him that pushed him to kill

All classic signs of demonic possession

what do you think /x/?
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source for that information first

I'm pretty familiar with Bundy and never remember reading anything like that
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Was Al Bundy possessed?

>had an unusual warlock like ability to summon a beer at will
>at times his face seemed to distort and made family members feel immense dread as if he was going to kill them (witness accounts from two ghostwriters)
>some even noted a foul odor emitting from him
>Al himself spoke of an 'entity' he called Peggy that pushed him to kill
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>>18619485
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201309/bundys-demon-part-i
>To several of his post-arrest interviewers years later (William Hagmaier, Robert Keppel, Steven Michaud), Bundy described a malignant being – an “entity” – that emerged from him whenever he was tense or drunk.

>Defense investigator Joe Aloi seemed to have gotten a clear view. While they were talking, he suddenly noticed an odor emanate from Bundy as his face and body contorted. “I felt that negative electricity,” Aloi said, “and along with that came that smell.” Aloi was suddenly terrified that Bundy would kill him.

>a great-aunt witnessed an episode during which Bundy "seemed to turn into another, unrecognizable person ... [she] suddenly, inexplicably found herself afraid of her favorite nephew as they waited together at a dusk-darkened train station. He had turned into a stranger." Lewis recounted a prison official in Tallahassee describing a similar transformation: "He said, 'He became weird on me.' He did a metamorphosis, a body and facial change, and he felt there was almost an odor emitting from him. He said, 'Almost a complete change of personality ... that was the day I was afraid of him.'"
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He escaped from jail twice, pretty crafty guy
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>>18619404
>had an unusual chameleon like ability to make faces

Yup demon confirmed
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>>18619404
Ted Bundy, Al Bundy.
Think about it.
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This look...
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>>18619516
>While they were talking, he suddenly noticed an odor emanate from Bundy as his face and body contorted.
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPHHHHHH
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>>18620076
Yup. Dæmon confirmed
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>>18619404
Bundy was a classic psychopath who would change his persona to fit any situation required. He also was a notorious liar, who would blame violent slasher flicks (ironically enough) and porn for both his and other people's violent tenancies.Ted was full of shit, so I don't take the whole "entity" thing seriously.
Satanism is a pretty popular excuse for crimes among serial killers: Henry Lee Lucas+Ottis Toole, Richard Ramirez, David Berkowitz, etc.
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I have 3 thoughts... 1: ted was possessed. 1b/2: some high(er) power possesses people to make them kill others. 3: getting possessed is a scapegoat
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>>18619499
underrated
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"the entity" was bundy's way of speaking about his crimes that relieved him of some of the burden of taking personal responsibility, a thing he struggled with until he was at the very end of his life when he finally opened up and spoke candidly. in particular, he catered his vocabulary to dr james dobson, the christian preacher, in order to gain sympathy and appear more like a victim himself - a victim of pornography, evil forces, whatever - rather than the solely guilty one. it may well be that, in his own way of seeing it, bundy thought of his "dark side" that emerged with ease once intoxicated as an entity, since a person experiencing dissociation from their normal personality does experience a shift within themselves which can feel like possession, but who can go over that metaphysical line and attribute it all to demons?

the smell was, in my opinion, simply human pheromones or whatever that got released whenever his mood shifted from his extroverted bubbly personable side to his selfish, dark, amoral, sexualized side. if he was smelled like this while in prison, it's likely due to not showering regularly etc. it is said that predators can smell their prey, and prey can smell their predators. ted bundy was considered a master predator, so to the rest of us, who are "prey" to serial killers, our ancient instincts tried to warn us about him.

his evil glare or stare is simply his psychotic personality gleaning through the carefully constructed persona mask he put on around others. particularly when attracted to a female, he could hardly hide his dark desires and intentions. prior to the chi omega sorority killings, he went to a disco and apparently gave such a death glare to a few girls, who made note of it to each other. they even thought he was a convict - he must have given off some kind of a tough persona even though he was not a typical macho man type of guy.
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>>18621157
as for the changing chameleon looks, part of it is his natural features, which are plain yet handsome, and part of it is his own deliberate changes. for example, when he saw his lawyer in a certain kind of outfit, he appeared at next session in a very similar outfit. or he would appear in the morning with hair parted one way and then after a break appear in the afternoon with it parted the other way. all an attempt to fool witnesses and create doubt and confusion in them.

what he could not give away, and what got him charged with that initial kidnapping and 15 years in prison, was his walk. carol da raunch knew him from his walk as soon as he entered for the photolineup. a person's walk can be very distinctive.

ted was an intelligent person and due to an intense inferiority complex rooted in his odd family situation he developed a maniacally narcissistic ego which was further inflated beyond all bounds as he killed more and more women - beautiful, powerful women in their own right who would never accept him - and evaded the law. escaping from prison, twice, and going on the run, was adventurous for bundy and a point of pride. he was gleeful to finally brag about the details of his escapes. and indeed, they were very impressive.
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anyone got a pdf of his lawyer's book? he suspected bundy of killing way more than the official count and even his (lawyer's) own girlfriend of the time. youtube ted bundy lawyer john henry browne.

other good bundy books are the essential ann rule "the stranger beside me" (she knew ted personally) and bob keppel's book about bundy helping them identify the green river killer.
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>>18621098
This. Bundy was the archetypical psychopath. He may have believed that there was a dark force inside him, pushing him and saving him but if there really was it wouldn't have let him fry and that's why he cried like a baby at the end.
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>>18621157
>avoiding responsibility
Probably, but that doesn't mean he wasn't influenced. It doesn't really absolve anyone of anything because everyone is influenced, and it's not random that some people are serial killers and some people are not. People who go along with are doing so by their choice. Even if someone is possessed to the point where they literally no longer control their body, they still ought to be considered guilty if they kill someone in that state, the same way that a person who kills someone else while drunk (but without showing other signs of possession) is still guilty because they allowed themselves to get drunk.

>not showering while in prison
A sudden distinct smell at the same time as sense of some kind of electric charge and distortion of the face? I don't think so.

>pheremones
Basically just a way of saying "natural smell." Again, the description doesn't sound terribly natural. Maybe it is a more extreme version of natural smells, but the point is that it seems notably more extreme than the usual.

>psychotic personality
Sure, but again it is a case of it being so extreme. Multiple personalies in themselves are really not usual and seem more and more clearly like possession the more of them there are and the more extreme their differences get.
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>>18621167
>deliberate changes
Yes he did that, but is that the only thing that was going on, or did his face itself also change? Again you can note that these things blend into each other and it is not easy to read a written description of something and get the full sense of what it was like to be there.

It's probably a case of not going to convince someone who doesn't believe demons exist, but if you have other reasons to believe that demons exist then it seems likely that he was possessed to some extent. If demons exist, you really have to assume that they are always involved when people do evil things, and especially when people do especially evil things. When there are distinct physical signs, then it just makes it more obvious.

Does that mean people who do these things are not responsible, or not responsible enough to be locked up for a long time and maybe executed? No. It really doesn't. Don't fuck around with demons.
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>>18619499
kekkorini pizza
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>>18619404
no, he was a highly intelligent psychopath who lost control of himself in the end, end of story.
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>>18619654
county jails in the south arent that impressive, especially in the 70s
theyre still not that impressive
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>>18621157

your sweat smells stronger when you're under stress, as a result of a cortisol spike
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>>18619516
Lots of killers are described as having similar changes of expression and the way they carry themselves when they are in kill mode or let their guard down. It's more like them showing their true selves in the heat of the moment that being take over by a spirit or something. This could easily come out if they were drunk or severely agitated. As for the smell when a person is in panic mode and thinks their life is threatened their senses become sharper, Bundy probably always smelled kind of bad but if you thought he was going to kill you it would have stood out more. If he drank a lot that could be an explanation, alcoholics stink after a while
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>>18621274
>if there really was it wouldn't have let him fry
lol, its like you think demons actually give a shit about the person they they corrupt. they are millions of shit stains in the us they could take over after he fried.
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