Magic for sex?

>>18554667

There are /always/ repercussions for our actions and intents, whether good or ill. Regardless of what you wish to delude yourself with and pretend this is, you're describing restricting another beings free will for your own interests. Frequent shit like this ends you up as an animal or preta in short order for the future lives.

>>18554667
well you're trying to manipulate someone for your own ends so I would say yes, it would probably be a little bad for your karma.

>adventurous
>submissive
kinda sounds like *you* want to be adventurous and you want her to go along with it.

>but I feel we can both benefit from it.
that sounds like self-justification.

>So, what can I expect here?
expect that it might work. but expect it to damage your relationship too. think about it - your wife is the person she is. to get her to do what you want with the methods you describe, it would either have to

a) give her a compulsion to do these things even though she doesn't want to do them, which will mess with her head (put yourself in her shoes for a moment and imagine what it would be like for you to feel inexcplicably compelled to do things in bed that aren't normal for you), and possibly cause her to resent or avoid you because it's sexually related and you're her sex partner; or

b) cause her to become a slightly different person, one who actually wants to do what you want her to. only, you can't really predict exactly what things about her personality would have to change to get her to be that person. maybe changing her into the submissive slut you want in bed will cause her to become someone you don't like being married to overall. by the time you find out, it'll be too late.

>>18554711

Thanks. We have sex, I'm just asking for a little enthusiasm, that's all.

>>18554743

>kinda sounds like *you* want to be adventurous and you want her to go along with it.

Yes

>that sounds like self-justification.

Yes and no. I'm willing to recognize that. But after 14 years of being in the same relationship, I'm bored. I've told her this. And I have had her do some things she wasn't comfortable with at first and ended up enjoying it.

It's really hard to explain. I'm not saying I know what's best for her, but as far as the bedroom, It's really my choice. She doesn't care about sex the way I do. No fetishes, no adventure. She just wants to cum and go to sleep. I want more, but I want her to enjoy it too.

So yes, it's all selfish justification. But I don't want to rape her or humiliate her. I just feel there is a world of sex we are both missing out on.

>>18554763
I'm still not decided if you are a good man, or if you are asking us for a voodo spell for a zombie wife.

>>18554763
> I want more, but I want her to enjoy it too.

Why not ask HER what would make her more hot and enamored in bed?

>>18554772
this. honestly OP all I've heard so far is how this is all about you. and yeah, you are one of the two people in the marriage and as such, your needs are important. but so are hers. how would you feel if she used magic/law of attraction to make you more vanilla?

Just get her really drunk

>>18554772
>>18554778

We have talked about this a lot. The closest thing I have come to find that she enjoys is when I send her a dirty text through the day. This gets her excited to come home. But honestly, over the past few years we have talked at length and she just doesn't have any real interests other than vanilla sex. Talk is cheap. I've put her needs first for a long time and it has gotten me nothing but shitty sex.

>>18554769
I love her the way she is in every other aspect. I don't want a zombie wife and I don't want to cheat.

>>18554784
She doesn't drink much and neither do I. Most times when she's drunk she just goes to bed early. The few times we have had sex while she's drunk have been really fun though.

>>18554667
you both should go to the gym together

>>18554843

That's really hard with a kid. But we have both been working out more over all and losing weight. It's a step in the right direction for sure.

>>18554667
Yes

>Magic sex drink:

1. Go to deep web and buy some GHB
2. Put it in the his/her drink
2.1 If he, put some Viagra in the magic drink too
3. Wait 25-30 minutes
4. enjoy

>>18554853
Or just stick with the good MDMA
Both take a roll

>>18554861
>>18554853

Nah, not like that.

>>18554833
dude get a marriage counselor, or get a divorce and bang someone who's into what you're into. I notice you didn't answer
>>18554778
>how would you feel if she used magic/law of attraction to make you more vanilla?

>Talk is cheap. I've put her needs first for a long time and it has gotten me nothing but shitty sex.
getting your needs met in a marriage is a lot more than just "well we did it your way and I don't like that, so fuck it, we're just gonna do it my way." I mean, you can try it, but unless she's secretly longed for you to dom her all this time, it's gonna blow up in your face. you gotta find a way to accommodate both of you. you have to do it with what is healthy for *both* of you, and your marriage, and your kid, in mind. or any magic shit that you do will be a stopgap at best, and possibly kill your marriage.

I think if you really, deep down, thought this was a good idea, you'd have done it already instead of asking a board full of psychotics and armchair mulders if they think it's a good idea. so consider that too.

t. marriedfag

>>18554896
Nah, it'll work, you are just to married.

It's cute how you pretend to be above date rape drugs but are asking for help in mind raping your wife

>>18554896

>I notice you didn't answer

About the law of attraction thing? I would be highly offended, for sure. But she has never told me she enjoys only bland sex, it's just the go-to.

>getting your needs met in a marriage is a lot more than just "well we did it your way and I don't like that, so fuck it, we're just gonna do it my way.

True, I understand compromise. But at the same time, I'm unhappy with our sex life. So only one of us gets to be happy?

>but unless she's secretly longed for you to dom her all this time

I think she will enjoy it, honestly.

>I think if you really, deep down, thought this was a good idea, you'd have done it already instead of asking a board full of psychotics and armchair mulders if they think it's a good idea. so consider that too.

I'm new to the occult and wanted the opinion of the community.

You seem really upset with me for having done nothing.

>>18554903

>It's cute how you pretend to be above date rape drugs but are asking for help in mind raping your wife

I don't want to rape her. The problem now is that she lays around too much in bed. I want some damn enthusiasm.

>>18554667
Maybe get her involved with your magical sexcapades? Roleplay or something. There is lots of tantric sex magic that involves both people. Kama sutra, etc.

I think maybe also you should reevaluate what you are really trying to get from sex. There is lots of soulful things about it, but sometimes they are meant to be discovered through by oneself. Learn to truly love who you are sexuality and all. Its not always about the orgasm, it can be about feeling your inner self and connection with life. For this pursuit I would recommend that you start practicing yoga

Tantric yoga on mushrooms was the most fun I ever had, and I was completely by myself just in love with what I was feeling for what seemed like the first time ever.

If you want her to be enthusiastic in bed, try having a bigger dick.

>>18554903
You're ignorant. He can't rape his wife. She's HIS wife. She's his property.

>>18555014
That's not how marriage or rape works.

Have you discussed an open marriage?

>>18554928
> she just doesn't have any real interests other than vanilla sex
> I just want her to be a submissive little slut

Are you saying you haven't been talking about forcing someone to have the kind of sex they don't want? Is there a synonym for rape you'd prefer?

Doing magic can't get you laid,

.t lvl 30 wizard

>>18555014
i found the guy in the friendzone

OP, i'd suggest asking if there's anything super special that she wants during sex similarly to the way you want a submissive slut. you may just need to be more specific with what you want; if all you say is that you want a submissive slut, what is she supposed to do with that? it may not be as obvious to her as it is to you.
however, if she is really that insistent on sitting still and doing nothing during sex, like the person a few replies above mine said, you may want to talk to her about an open marriage, and set some terms for that. she may not be super enthusiastic about it, but the fact that she isn't satisfying you sexually to the point that you are willing to ask for that may just be enough for her to realize how important to you it is.
and it doesn't have to be "the husband fucks any girl he wants while the wife isn't allowed to fuck anyone" unless that's what you both agree upon. there's always give and take in this sort of thing anyway. it could be that you end up with a girlfriend that you both agree upon who you are able to fulfill your submissive slut fantasies with. keep in mind, though, if you do end up with an open marriage, you can't just expect her to sit down and shut up. maybe her sexual needs aren't being met either, and she has need for a boyfriend or girlfriend as well?
you'd be surprised at how many married couples end up like this. i've slept with a few myself.
however, i would really advise against making it an ultimatum, unless this whole lack-of-sexual-satisfaction thing is just that bad and she refuses to budge on it, because that's kind of a dick move and you'll prolly end up losing your wife.
lots of give and take with these things, OP; lots of give and take. think on it carefully.

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You're the one with magical knowledge. Change yourself, not others.

I'm going to go against the grain here and say just do it. Start with a sigil (look up chaos magic) and request a small, specific thing in the bedroom that doesn't happen very often. Once this manifests you will gain the confidence and faith in the magic you will need for larger manifestations. I would always make it clear to the universe/God that your request is for both of you to be happy about the thing that you request happening and for both of you to enjoy it.
This will mean that instead of you downright "manipulating" her it will feel to her like a natural progression for your sex life together. Make sure you hide your sigil though... Obviously.
In terms of karmic retribution, I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you make it clear that your request comes about in a way that is positive for both of you. The universe may have to work a bit harder to make this happen and it may take a little longer, but it will be a lot more worth it than it feeling like you've forced her