Lets entertaing the idea of us living in a simulation, /x/

>>18554223
ok

...sup... fellow AI bro...

Where 2 enter console commands

rosebud;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:

>>18554223
Its actually true.
Tom campbell. He knows it. Studied his stuff for 4 years. Its the only theory that makes sense to me and he even can explain all the logical connections without requiring you to use bias and belief to get there. A true scientist. Of course you need to invest some time to check out all the claims and questions to make sure you dont just blindly believe. Good luck

>>18554223
The steak is juicy.

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>>18554223
sure why not, let's get it over with

its true and you can hack it

>>18554287
Fpbp

https://hastebin.com/tapoxopija.coffeescript.
Your brain run the simulation.
All the devices (eyes, ears and such) just pass the data to the brain which build it.

I thought this was the case when I was 6 way before matrix Truman show etc.

>>18554355
How?
Do you think it has to do something with the law of attraction?

>>18554322
>Its actually true.

/x/ in a nutshell

>>18554223
>us
I don't get why most who entertain the idea of living in the simulation for some reason think humans are all real and only the world is fake.
As far as I know, it's much more likely that you're all just mindless programs.

Well I guess you could say this is exactly what a simulation would look and feel like.

One thing we can all agree upon is we each have a subjective observation of this reality.

>Why would anything exist if no one created it?
>Why create anything at all?
>Things are so oddly infinitely random...

Post yfw our Universe is modern art.

Not a simulation, but a dream.

>>18554738
Don't be afraid to blow a random strangers mind (in a kind way).
>If they can't handle reality then they are not real themselves.

>>18557262
Who's dream?

>>18557611
Le Demiurge no doubt

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>>18556773

>>18554355
no you cant

>>18557611
Mine since it's from my point of view.

Sometimes I think I'm a robot. I don't really know.

as physics slowly brgins to discover more and more about what makes up our universe, the atomic structures of things, elemental tables... the more we can discover it and write it down exactly

the easier you can translate that into code, eventually you will have all the programs you need to create a big bang and have simulated life organisms form in that world.

and they will create one eventually, and it will go so on and so on to infinite realities

>>18556773
pimple-faced geek's science project.
*switches off*

>>18558968
it must get orders of magnitude smaller with every new simulation within the simulation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHob-HLw998

>>18559572
But what is size other than relevance to the observer and its immediate surroundings?
I'm sure any simulated world would feel large to the beings that inhabit it.

who /reticulatingsplines/ here?

This possibility is very interesting.

>>18557580
I'm afraid that you would mind if I kindly blew a random stranger.

There's no difference in existing only in a simulation and being real.

>>18554303
This ruins the game within 10 minutes.

Someone renamed a few files and now I smell by hearing, someone help me out.

why do you fake me?

why does everyone do that which i do first?

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>>18554223
Simulation theory makes sense. According to quantum physics everything is made of energy waves, and probability. The simulation waves follow algorithms, and there are many patterns that we have deciphered with our human minds without the use of universal super computers. Just enjoy the ride and do your best. It usually lasts less than 100 yrs in this epoch. Then go back to being an eternal being, and repeat the cycle.

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>>18558803
>what is magic
>what are spells
>what are rituals
my negro

>>18557262
You're retarded

what if this is all just a dream and i took a huge shot of DMT before this?

>>18563672
This.

>>18563700
What if you're fat and no one will ever love you?

>>18563731
:(

>>18563731
took me back to the material realm.

Our reality being a simulation would make perfect sense and actually explain some things.

>>18563826
like the fact i see buildings and cars disappearing and grown adults becoming children.

>>18559572
It wouldn't matter.

You only experience within your own simulation.

Even if it ran at one cycle every hour in the mother reality you would still experience it as real time.

>>18563833
>grown adults becoming children
You been touching up little kids, Florian?

>>18563844
touching? no. observing how grown adults became chidren? yes.

>>18563847
Tell us all about it

>>18563859
>go outside
>see 18 year old woman crying
>take a beautiful leaf from the small tree near the building
>approach crying woman
>hesitate to talk to her so awkwarly stand next to her with a leaf in my hands
>woman says "fuck off, you can keep that"
>leave woman, sit down near the tree with my ipad (it was summer)
>crying girl gets inside
>some minutes later her "mom" gets outside and talks to me
>"leave her alone, she is too young for you"
>be like "wtf"
>she gets inside
>see same girl again except shes now like 6 year old suddenly.
>same clothing and same appearance, except as a child version
>she was like absent from her self, just sitting there doing nothing and staring (the "think-look")
take pic with my ipad from far away and from behind a bush
>you cant see anything on it so pointless to post it

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>>18563875
[psychosis intensifies]

>>18563833
I feel ya on that one Hanz. It seems like the average public mind has degraded severely. Possibly it has to do with the internet age, but being at work I almost wonder how these people still stay afloat in their regular responsibilities with little critical thought or variation. I use to think it was a symptom of our generation, how many of us never really grew up and make the same jokes from middle/high school ten years later, but I see elderly folk acting with about the same level of cognitive awareness. It seems as if most are becoming hollow husks.

>>18563875
You're fucking nuts, man.

>>18563875
Well I was talking metaphorically, can't really say I've seen a case like that before.

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>>18563875
>taking photos of 6yo girls from behind a bush

>>18563887
i wanted to have proof, but i failed cause i didnt dare to take a pic directly.

>>18563700
Oh come on, that's an old meme.
Again, I've said this before to you, solipsism won't really get you anywhere if you are looking for answers about reality.

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>>18563895
hence why i ask the /scanner/s about reality
>pic related

>>18563891
But what proof would that even be?
>A picture of a 6 year old staring blankly.
It's not like to have a go-pro strapped to your head and caught the whole scene.

>>18563908
yeah, thats why i never have proof of any of the paranormal happenings.

like that one time i was on a path near a river close to my city and 5 months later i use the same path again but suddenly the river is gone and was replaced by an acre.

>>18563905
Take these scanners for a grain of salt, just because a statement has correct grammar doesn't mean to take it as a fact. If it was a botanist who is experiencing a Mandela Effect, even then it's still pretty much unprovable. Not to say this is or is not simulated, but at times I think you let the workings of the game control you rather than simply enjoying it at times. Imagine buying a new video game just to figure out the coding, every single time. Does that sound like fun at all? Keep peering, but don't let it destroy the future you possibly have in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GifS4zwggE

>>18563912
It's almost like you are Gaslighting yourself. If that were me, I'd find it funny and kind of laugh to myself, not let it bog me down with paranoia. If anything an experience like that is like an "easter egg".

>>18563916
i am severally depressed due to my illness and such matrix bugs cause to have an even larger effect on my psyche.

i want to add that the scanners can read my mind.

i was once on their baord and they knew what was happening in my brain. they are legit.

they also brainwash everyone that turns out to support me. like Janice A.
she once posted on there saying "leave hanz alone now" and a minute later she had all her dox posted and got a visit from them. she now works for them.

>>18563923
sure you would buddy. sure.

>>18563922
fuckin proves it.

You need locking up forever, for your own good, you crazy crazy bastard.

>>18563931
>being locked up forever
>being good to you

>>18554223
You cant see it?

>>18554738
yes

thats how you pull on the fabric of spacetime

>>18563934
for*

>>18563928
>Those are both me
Well, I have seen quite a few situations where it seems like the world is mocking me, strangers knowing what to say in accordance to what I am thinking, radio playing rare songs I was singing minutes before (often), calling news events and such. It's not really controllable on my end so I just let it slide. I would be a complete basketcase if I didn't, but I still wish to play this game so I know in the end, none of it really matters. I simply just want to be able to laugh still and relate to the limited few who still have (I assume) a mind of their own. People change yes, but honest and deep conversation is extremely lacking in today while the world around us is becoming increasingly bizarre. Don't let it get to you Hanz, that's all I can tell you, we create our own heavens and hells.

>>18563941
you just copy me again. just like everyone else.

>>18563944
How so, mind explaining?

>>18563947
no i will not.

>>18563949
Ok then, if you don't want honest advice from someone else who somewhat relates then that's fine with me. I hope you understand that not everyone is out to get you, even though that seems to be what you do think.

>>18563955
yes i do think that.

Play the Angel song

>>18563957
So then how can anyone hold empathy with you if you always find them as a combatant?

>>18563962
they dont. thats why i have no friends.

husband?

>>18563974
Don't you think that it is possibly a self induced cycle? There are people on this earth who can relate, people who are honest and have an open mind about these type of occurances in[and/or]with people. If you close yourself off to everyone else, then you may be missing out on someone who can actually assist in your alienated state.
They are rare, but they are out there, it's called love.

>>18563983
>>18563960
this is directed at me btw.

>>18563983
Paige?

>>18563988
Yeah I know your back story, most regulars on /x/ do, you have become quite a meme here I have to say.

>>18563998
I'll just use a vauge ID, I don't like exposing myself to the trolls as easily. I'm sure you can keep up with my past anon posts by my writing style.

It's later than you think

I've been in a lot of threads where you pop up, usually I'm there first. Have to say too, that Scanner thread by the Root on 1/11 was a mind fuck even for me.
>A mind fuck, remember that.

>>18564007
It is always here now.

Still here Hanz?

>>18564042
yes.

damn im missing love.

>>18564045
I hope you do know that a fair amount of these "scanners" are just trolls who know your back story that you divulged in many past threads and are leaving you cryptic messages in an attempt to gaslight/trigger you.

DO A FIRE!

You are about as popular as Chip-Chan now, I have to say.

>>18564056
trolls withou the "

its a direct attempt to break my psyche. its not just random trolls, its scanners that troll to break my mind and soul and to get me to do something stupid to get me gone forever.

like this

>>18564058

its just to destroy my psyche.

i bet they were responsible for that court trial which was about locking me up forever. they failed cause there was no reason for it. which shows someone deliberately attempted to lock me up.

>>18564059
cant say i dont like that popularity.

>>18564066
>no reason for it
Knife in the fridge

>>18564067
there was no knife in the fridge. that was a made up lie m8. the knife was in a cardboard box which was in the kitchen.

just how they lied about me hearing voices n shit on the papers.

>>18564066
But you have no proof of such, it's paranoia 101. These people find you as a meme, and want to alter you because they themselves live sad pathetic lives and wish to drag others down with them. It's much more likely that they are more lonely than you are, or if not, people who have an understanding of psychology and with to test out their skills on an open victim. If you let that control what you do off of this board, in real life, then you are letting them win over your mind. You even said it.
>cant say i dont like that popularity
That popularity is what is bringing them to you, much like the strange kid at school who purposely stands out in the crowd to receive attention yet is only met with negitave reinforcement by their peers. It's a vicious cycle that only you can break yourself.

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>>18564097
who is that fat guy?

>>18564098
Maybe not in a personal sense with you, but in reality very much so. As I said before, I do feel you on some of it and that it why I'm trying to share it. If are legitimately being gangstalked remember that being a meme will only accelerate that stalking tenfold.

>>18564101
...?

>inb4 thread delete

>>18563922
20/10

When you woke in the next level did you have any memory of being in the previous level?

>>18554322

I'm reading his book now. Really eye opening.

>>18564153
It's the one unifier that takes into account almost all of the paradoxs. Been following Campbell for a couple years now and oddly enough, his writings seem more and more based as the years go on.

>>18554223
Let's fighting love

>>18558968
>the easier you can translate that into code

That's quite a logical jump, pal

>>18564012
Because you are a cheeky asshole

Hanz is a pussy.

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> mfw it's just one person writing this
> mfw it's me

>>18564009

Do you have a link? Or any screencaps?

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>>18566958

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>>18566958
There was an a Super Moon where I live when it was rising on that day.

>>18554223
Definitely a possibility, it would explain some things. Also makes it interesting to think about who's running the simulation, and ways to bug it out.

>>18554303

>rosebud
>not klapaucius

gg scrub

>>18563875
Post the pic.
Proof?

Have you ever thought about the first dimension?
The Third, well look up from your screen.
The Second, well look back at the screen.
Now what is the first?
Probably haven't thought about it too much?
Might think it's impossible to imagine?
There are two things I know of that are single dimensional.
One of which you see fairly often, the other you are using right now.
Have you got it yet?

>>18570765
I'd like to go to the source Morpheus.

>>18558968
I think if the ability to create simulated life to a perfect degree, it would be an ethical responsibility.

>>18567015
>>18567025
What a load of horseshit.

I thought it was going to point out very obvious glitches with multiple observers.

>>18554223
Let us entertain proper spelling and grammer, OP.

>>18563905
My aunt had that flower. It looks like a dove, so its name means "Holy Spirit's Flower". Nothing new.

Imagine an npc in sims figuring out they're in a game. What are they gonna do? What CAN they do? This is you. You're fucked and if the simulation operator doesn't like you, you get erased from the simulation's ram, wiped from everyone's memory. If shit gets super fucky, simulation op can just flip the switch. All of existence would be in stasis for all eternity and nobody would know it because their brain and the electrical impulses within are also frozen. Sim op could also just hard reset - new big bang and evolution all over again.

>video graphics are getting better
>VR systems are getting better

hurr durr it means we are the game.
zero logic imo.
it's like saying movies look like reality so it must mean it's not a simulation but a movie. since graphics in movies are 100x better than computer generated

Ok. First time in /x/ here. The thing with simulations is that the probability is higher than we all think. Since the drake's equation and the Fermi paradox tell us that the chance of being 2nd in developed civilization is higher than being 1st. So is the chance of an I.A. singularity (creating robot god) so we are very likelly in the hands of ancient I.A Gods. And we have always been (taking probabilities)

>>18573044
Also the moon is just dumb. The behavior of the moon is insane. And people are too smart to realize that the idea of the moon being place for us to be observed is orders of magnitude higher than the probability of it just hanging there by itself. (Perfect eclipse. The locked face. Etc.) Also everyone wants to colonize fucking mars. Why not the moon?

*Posting in a legit hanz thread*

Man, I remember hearing about this guy like a couple years ago.

It is like protein folding. We are simulations, one of trillions going on at the same time. The goal is for a human or to make some event in the universe which is able to create heaven, a form of perfection and greatness. If you were to program a computer to do it, you would give it godlike powers to carry out its program, which is to be perfect and create heaven. After running trillions and trillions of simulations, one of the computer simulations will have the solution to protein folding, it will be unique it will be allowed to create more heaven.
If you were naturally able to imagine heaven and create it perfectly at all, the universe will grant you the power. You are the only reason anything exists, every thing has happened to create you the way you are so you could create the perfect heaven. You are the perfect simulation given true form and control over reality. The universe wants greatness and perfection but it needed you to make it.

>>18554223
If were in a simulation why hasn't everyone on 4chan been patched out

>>18562309
You can't shit post in a simulation though

>>18557262
>but a dream.
A top-level shared dream, same as our personal imperfect dreams.

>>18563826
>Our reality being a simulation would make perfect sense and actually explain some things.

It could explain everything without paradox.

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>>18574362
You'd best start believing in fun posting simulators

>>18574397
Except for the fact that computers can't calculate pi, and would need an infinite amount of time to do so.

Meaning that it takes an infinite amount of time and energy to simulate a simple 2-dimensional circle.

Our universe is composed of some sort of mad 11-dimensional fractal circle, sphere living geometric space-time.

No concievable machine can even begin to simulate reality.

In other words; this simulation nonsense is pushed as a distraction from the only logical conclusion we can draw from the anisotropy of the cosmic microwave background and the quantization of photons and space-time,

that God exists.

Science has reached it's dead it. It found God.

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>>18563875
Dude, stay positive. Don't go down dark rabbit holes of thought, or else you're world will turn upside down. You'll get lost in parallel universe while your body appears like a madman in your current universe. Look up the teachings of people like Buddha to stay away from the dark side. Your subconscious mind supercomputer is capable of creating heaven on earth for you. Learn to harness its power.

everytime i close my eyes, i see flashes of circle patterns. green and red. ive been seeing these same exact pattern since as long as i can remember. which was around 3 or 5 years old. to this day if i close my eyes, i can still see the exact same patterns. could it be im strapped to some machine all these while

>>18574433
You eyes are spheres, composed of smaller spheres, composed of even smaller spheres, exchanging spherical electrons as a means of communication through a spherical time-space.

Machines can't simulate circles, never mind spheres.

Not a single one!
A circle has never been simulated, because circles are real.

>>18574586
>, what if it is right here where we are now, in an almost imposible to conceive utopic society where everyone's needs are taken care of? What if we were programmed to believe that such a thing is possible so we could build it, maybe not for us but for someone, we already use super computers to solve problems we didn't think were solvable, why couldn't we were in one ourselves?
See I like that and I want to build on that concept.
Humankind, will get more advanced and evolved, man will get more intelligent. Humans will learn and know most of everything, this means the command of over time and space. Using the power of stars, making perpetual energy, utilizing dark energy, time travel, moving into other dimensions, creating new dimensions, controlling the smallest string particle to moving galaxies around.
A society more perfect than Star Treks. Manipulating dna so humans have no flaws and immortal bodies that can be replicated and restored at any time. From there, a human can create a "heaven" in his vision, use time travel to stalk every human that has ever existed, and bright them all back to life and put them in heaven and hell. The human race is capable of so much more, with enough time humans can control and manipulate the fabric of reality.

>>18564056
This. Lately I haven't been going on /x/ but the few times I have I've seen Hanz each time, So I guess you could call Hanz a Regular .. so if he happens to be on here posting all the time. There's obviously gonna be other regulars who know hanz and his story, and purposely try to fuck with him. I don't think there's much more too It

I think it's actually more than possible, if not probable. The Matrix set was "haunted' by strange events and tragic deaths. The illuminati do NOT like it when major films threaten to expose secrets only they should know.

>>18574630
Haunted how?

>>18563928
explain to me what you mean by scanners please?

>>18574618
Thats what I'm say, mate. I lurk here more than toast, cause I know everyone on this board is what I'd consider an actively experimenting psychonaut or otherwise practicer of psychadelia and thought manipulation of sorts. Not unlike myself!

>we gon fuck with eachother here

>>18556409
No I'm protagonist you're the mindless program

>>18574606
So maybe there is a God, and he's one of us, created in our own image, he may just not have been born yet, but this is bound to happen eventually.

>>18574606
Wouldn't this all knowing being already know that differentiating between right and wrong is completely subjective though? As in for example a murderer is a bad person, but a judge who sentences him to the death penalty is not necessarily a bad person as well but rather just someone following the law?

What about the soldiers? And police officers? Should they be forgiven because they were doing a greater good? What about a mentally unstable man who kills because he thinks someone is trying to hurt him or someone else? I could understand if a superior intelligence could take every single detail into consideration but could he live knowing he put 2 people who did the same thing into different realities just because of an insignificant fact?

And who's to say that such being couldn't be evil? Are we all condemned either way?

>>18570817
Oh shit, I thought this thread died.
>First example
It's a Horizon. You look at it and cannot tell where it begins or ends. To try to factor exactly where the land meets the sky is almost infinite. It is a straight line.
>The second single dimensional property.
Binary code. It is a straight line no doubt, and in that sense can be rooted to what the single and most simple dimension in our relaity. The implications of this is almost unfathomable. I like to state it as there is possibly a beginning and end to this, but impossible to reach since the in-between is infinite, like say Pi.
>Currently playing on the radio in my room
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9_VOy7VipQ

>>18575256
Pardon the typos

>>18574618
No man, I'm the regular here. Hanz is passé.
>I don't like to tout ego, but I will for intellectual purposes.

This board is like an abstract bar to me.
>I usually never namefag, but this thread called for it.

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>>18574438
>Machines can't simulate circles, never mind spheres.
>Not a single one!
>A circle has never been simulated, because circles are real.

Lol where is your proof of this?

Also the simulation theory is the only thing that really makes sense, or there is just a traditional God, or many. You have to wonder, what was before the "Big Bang", some say another universe, but what came before the first universe? Before space, time, physics, reality?

God bro

>>18575358
The circumference of a circle is related to it's diameter by pi.

The value of pi is unknown at this time as it contains billions of digits.

It may be infinite, thereby excluding the possibility of a successful simulation of a circle.

If it is not infinite, it is still going to take a lot of energy to simulate a circle.

It's easier and more efficient to just use triangles or other polygons.

Circe is God bro!
Unnameable, ineffable.
The simplest shape in existence is the most difficult to understand.

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>>18554659
https://hastebin.com/apoqopenow.coffeescript
how does hastebin work, who reads, only if i post, can i read the original and after all edits at a time?

>>18574426
>Meaning that it takes an infinite amount of time and energy to simulate a simple 2-dimensional circle.

In our limited realm, yes.

You don't know the laws of physics in our parent universe.

You'd think /lgbt/ is the mentaly ill board of 4chan but fuck, /x/ is so far ahead. This thread has guys with full on psychosis going on.

>>18573192
The math illiteracy in this thread is astounding. Since Fermi wasn't illiterate in mathematics he knew Drake equation is just a pseudoscience for pastime and he himself admitted its creation to serve only a mocking purpose. You can't equal probability to reality and worse yet you don't even know the probability ratio because you have only one reference point.

Also the problem with AI is you don't know if exponential computational growth doesn't require exponential energy consumption.

>>18575873
2 reference points min

>>18554223
Hey guise I accidently genetic code. What do?

>>18575393
>The value of pi is unknown at this time as it contains billions of digits.
The value of pi is known EXACTLY. It is the ratio of a circle's circumference divided by its diameter.
>It may be infinite
NO
Pi is less than 4. It is NOT infinite. The DECIMAL REPRESENTATION of the number is an infinite string of digits. You know what other number requires an infinite string of digits for its decimal representation? 1/3. The difference is pi has no repeating pattern in its infinite string, while 1/3 is just the digit 3 an infinite number of times.

>>18576193
Name them. Earth and?

>>18554223
3.14159........
/t

>>18554223
Okay. Does that mean we are simulations too? And if yes, does that mean that this simulated world around us is just as real as we are, so nothing really changed?

What if I'm Azathoth and all of you exist because I'm dreaming you.

>>18576467
This argument is very weak imho.

>>18576594
How come? It basically goes:
Those non-repeating decimals either have to be stored somewhere (suggesting infinite storage space, that would've taken an infinite time to fill up and other problems), or that pi has to be calculated to a very precise value every fucking time the simulation requires an instance that somehow involves pi. Which is all the fucking time.

>>18576628
but what if

what if

what

if

The laws of our parent reality are nothing like our own? We can't even begin to imagine what their reality would be like.

We would be like pedestrians in GTA. Probably even lower.

>>18577202

wrong, reality is fractal, there is always similarities and patterns

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>>18576214
1/3 doesn't exist anywhere outside of mental cognition as a simulation.

Pi is a brute fact of nature. Infinite definition.

Infinite definition.

Infinitely defined.

Infinitely definite design.

>>18576628

THis guy gets it. Pretty much every event, even the minute quanta of an electromagnetic sine wave interacting with another thing requires an exceedingly precise calculation, perhaps even an infinite calculation that never ends.

Any simulation running on such a program must be built within an infinite computer. And that infinite computer must be built in another and so and so forth.,

The buck stops at God.

>>18577202

If we were in a simulation the fundamental structure of reality would be a triangle with straight lines.

The fundamental structure of the universe has been scientifically verified numerous times to be circular.

Therefore not a simulation.

Reality.

Wake up.

>>18577274

Bubbles within bubbles. Sometimes the bubbles become squares. Sometimes elephants. Sometimes you. Sometimes stars.

Always a bubble(r)

>You can't remove the time from timespace. Movement, action, spirit and causality are intrinsic to the structure as is it's loopiness.

>>18575235
>Wouldn't this all knowing being already know that differentiating between right and wrong is completely subjective though?
It is subjective. Only the person which judges it himself is right or wrong, and that is subjective in itself. Maybe it is better than nothing. If you were to become a all powerful all knowing god, wouldn't you use your power to create evil and put bad people in there, people that you alone choose?

>>18577354
Ignorance is the source of all evil in the world in my opinion. If you were all knowing you would know better than to create evil and punish people.

>>18576628
Pi is a mathematical concept and does not necessarily have to be reflected in the nature of this simulation all of the time

It's turtles all the way down.

>>18576628
You seem to think it takes infinite harddrive space to store pi. It doesnt. This even ignores the ridiculous idea, that the universe simulation would run on something similar to our computers

>>18577329
There isnt really a difference between pi and 1/3 as far their complexity goes. There is nothing special about numbers with infinite decimals, nor is there anything extraordinary difficult about simulating things involving them. Stop repeating "infinite design", this is very simple math

>>18577557
No you didn't originally create them, say you were a human so advanced you had godlike powers, where you could create heaven and hell, or a new universe that is completely perfect...

>>18577807
First it was all knowing.

If I was me with reality warping powers but without omniscience I'd create a perfect universe. But an all knowing entity would perhaps see a flaw in such design and design an imperfect universe for a reason unknown to my limited knowledge.

Maybe even my godlike status was somehow imperfect and I would feel the need to entertain myself somehow and thus create a specific universe.

I recommend two short stories by Asimov: The Last Question and The Last Answer. Both are free and great classics. I especially love how subtle The Last Answer is when it comes to intent and reasoning behind the actions of such powerful entity.

>>18577873
my godlike status would be*

>>18577887
would you use your new powers to create a real hell and heaven for this earth and for all the humans that ever existed, i feel a all knowing god should create a hell for all the bad and evil people who existed, so many injustices in history

>>18577901
This is nonsense. You don't know what is it to be all knowing so you in your limited scope can't rationalize such thing. I'd go as far as to say you can't even imagine to be all knowing, nobody really can. Have you seriously given it any thought?

Maybe an all knowing being would create a hell. That's maybe. I am not sure if that's true. I in my limited human scope disagree that anything a human being can do on the Earth deserves eternal damnation and suffering. Especially when your reactions are just a result of your genetic and environmental randomness.

>>18558956
>since it's from my point of view

I've got bad news for you, pal.

>>18577593
>Pi is a mathematical concept and does not necessarily have to be reflected in the nature of this simulation all of the time

Everything is pi! It is not a mathematical concept. The awareness of pi is a mathematical concept.

Pi itself is pi. The infinitely fine tuned definition of a circle. So precise that nothing but God could ever create a circle.

You can't make a circle. A machine can't make a circle. Only God.

>>18577622
>You seem to think it takes infinite harddrive space to store pi. It doesnt.

It does. And it takes an infinite amount of time and energy and space to calculate.

Our universe doesn't calculate pi, pi just pops into existence.

>This even ignores the ridiculous idea, that the universe simulation would run on something similar to our computers

What would it run on?
The circle is the simplest shape.

The only thing simpler is a 1-dimensional point particle which by definition cannot be a machine because machines are composed of parts.

The One is a Point.
The Two is a Circle.
The Three is a Sphere.
The Four is a Torus.

>>18577660
>There isnt really a difference between pi and 1/3 as far their complexity goes.

1/3 is more complex than pi, as it depends on higher level structures, such as the concept of 3.

The circle, or even the point do not require 3 but at most 2 dimensions of identity.

>There is nothing special about numbers with infinite decimals, nor is there anything extraordinary difficult about simulating things involving them.

When those numbers govern the geometry of space-time, and there is no natural explanation possible, then they are both special and evidence for a Perfect Creator.

>nor is there anything extraordinary difficult about simulating things involving them.

Not difficult. IMPOSSIBLE.

You can't even conceive of a perfect circle in your mind, never mind create one out of matter.

>Stop repeating "infinite design", this is very simple math

Designed infinite definition, not infinite design.

>>18578212
>1/3 is more complex than pi
no they both are expressions of ratios. pi is just a ratio. geometry and math in general is as elegant and "fine tuned" as it is, because thats pretty much the whole point of it. I dont get why you need god to explain the existence of such entry level math concept

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>>18578396
> I dont get why you need god to explain the existence of such entry level math concept

The fine tuning of the universe as evidenced by quantum physics and the large scale asymmetry of the universe?

Where no natural explanation can be made because nothing natural exist prior to this fundamental, quantized, explicitly defined structure?

Where you can't even have a "turtles all the way down" scenario because it doesn't go all the way down but stops at a specific point for no natural reason whatsoever.

Where multiverse models cannot even be invoked because they are all dependent on a primary meta-universe which is finely tuned.

Where chaotic fluctuations can't be invoked because there are no chaotic fluctuations but fine-defined quantum leaps from one state to another.

Where there is no continuum from zero to infinity but instead definite steps from one to another one.

Who is One?
What is One?
Where did the One come from?

Why is there One and not All?

Why 13.7 billion years?

Why planck distance and scale limit?

Why any limits at all?

Why Axis of Evil in Cosmic Microwave Background?

Why order?

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>>18578396
>>18577329
>>18576628
you guys are only considering decimal system,
>as a simulation the world could work in sexagesimal hexadesimal binary etc... or numerical systems that we didnt even invented yet.
>without the limitations computers have since it only works in binary.

just music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ud5yDjM63I

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>>18578463
it isn't built on numbers!

It's a base circle system.

It's the geometry that encodes information in our reality.

>Or base point, which can potentially manifest in an infinite number of dimensions.
>Such as when the Alakazam captcha popped up. A circle of sorts.
>Or when a punchline is delivered.

>>18578484
care to elaborate?
>base point
>base circle system

>>18578515
Does the circle spin left, or right?
Does the circle expand, or contract?
And so on so forth acquiring mass and information.

H, He, Hel, Hell, Hello, Hell, Hel, He, H

Information encoded in geometry.

>This event. Of me writing on this board would be the 859674364937596 billionth dimension of identity.
>So many circles within circles within circles that we can't even begin to grasp the complexity.

You think the idea of an afterlife is simply a consequence of man's awareness of his own identity?

Well it kinda is. It's a loop of the universe aware of universe, which adds to the complexity and information of universe...

>If everything in existence is cyclical.
>Then isn't our existence...

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So you are all intrigued?

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In conclusion.

You are in the simulation of the Perfect God, the Father who isn't in any way human, but is instead a shape. And that shape is inherently causal, meaning, that it creates, iterates and replicates.

It's alive!

And it only gets better as time goes on.

>The Son is you, Adam.
>The Son of the Son is Jesus, the I AM (your processional awareness of yourself existing, across time-space as some sort of Meta-Man/God existing at the end of time which never actually happens)
>And the Spirit is the Will to Joy, that is the Spirit of Creative Endeavor.

https://youtu.be/-kcOpyM9cBg

>>18577622
>You seem to think it takes infinite harddrive space to store pi
To store an exact value of pi, yes it fucking does.
To constantly calculate pi is I guess somewhat more "realistic" (if that even applies here), but it still makes such a simulation very, very unlikely.

>>18578396
>I dont get why you need god to explain the existence of such entry level math concept
Welcome to /x/

Also remember it's true guise!!1

>>18579101
>To constantly calculate pi

It may even be the case that value of pi arbitrarily changes from time to time...

Just because.

"I'm God, deal with it"

>>18578446
You don't understand quantum physics. And are you so delusional to think that "who is one" is a deep level argument? Do you really think that making fairytales will get you anywhere except getting you farther in your delusions?

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>>18579133
Who is one?
What is the omega vortex?
How do you quantum entangle your propinquity into wheelbarrow overdrive?

>>18557611
The Great and Terrible Azathoth!

>>18578212
>t does. And it takes an infinite amount of time and energy and space to calculate.
thats literally factually wrong. stop it, liar

>>18579101
>To store an exact value of pi, yes it fucking does.
I guess it might. But only if you use the least efficient and most retarded way to encode it. Reading this thread really is a lot of cringe for an IT guy.

>people using pi as an argument
>when perfect circles dont exist in our reality

Even the closest thing to a perfect circle is still an approximation.

>>18579545
Well then you mind telling us what's a more efficient way to store the exact value of pi?

>>18578446
>Where there is no continuum from zero to infinity but instead definite steps from one to another one.
>What is the set of real numbers

>>18578168
I really need to stop replying to myself

>>18577967
When I get godlike powers, even if it is not all knowing, I will use my godlike powers to create a real hell, a place where people can live forever and a place where pyshics allows the evil people to not be destroyed by the torturing, so they can suffer forever. I would use my time traveling technology, to view and stalk every human being born, I would learn their language and see very action of every person, I might read all their thoughts, I would follow each human invisibly over their shoulder until they die. I would take all the evil and bad humans send them to hell. All the innocent humans who never did evil, I would bring them into tomorrow land, a land were humans live in the far future and everything is fixed with technology. dna genetic manipulation, nano-computers, quantum power.

>>18580885
I would not want such god. Do you seriously think there is evil a man can do that justifies eternal punishment in hell?

Also what is evil? Since you are not all knowing evil is just something subjective you created and are adjusting in your head during your life. Your metric of evil might be a net positive in the world without you realizing it.

There is no person that is absent of all evil and never did anything evil in life. Children for example don't have the brain developed enough to have a grasp on empathy and they can be very cruel even if they feel bad once their brain develops more and they gain new experiences and insights.

You would end up being an evil entity.

>>18579574
You could for example just store the way it is defined. Or even better, just use functions for circles in a simulation and forget about "storing" it at all

>>18557262
Can confirm

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>>18579159
and then he awoke

>>18580885
The collective will of sentient gods in the future will prevent you from doing any harm. I personally will block your attempts to create any hell.

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Anyone want a scientific demonstration of the causal power of God?

Take a cube, put it on a table, nothing happens.
Do the same for every other 3-dimension shape imaginable.

Now place a sphere on that table.

What happens?

Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream, merrily merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

On and on and on and on, and on and on it goes.
Round and round and round and round, the world is made of me!

>Gravity is not a force, but a feature of the base-point geometry.

>>18581110
How do you store a singularity?

By definition a singularity would transcend the simulation, bleeding through into all time-spaces.

One Everywhere!

You always need a One to start the system.

A Definite One.

https://youtu.be/qZC_v6BRWPM

>>18581748
>Anyone want a scientific demonstration of the causal power of God?
>Take a cube, put it on a table, nothing happens.
>Do the same for every other 3-dimension shape imaginable
So basically you like dicks in your mouth?

>>18581754
The Dick of God is the Rape of Europa, of Liberty of Love, of Life.

The Rape of Rape. RvPv, Libe etc.

God thorced us into existence. (At least indirectly)
Your parents thorced you into existence. (At least indirectly)

You never gave consent.
You are angry.
You hurt.
You suffer.
You never asked for this.

Where is your respite?

>An initial introduction is always without full consent; the subject does not know what it is being introduced to, to what lies beyond the event horizon, until it happens...

Even the mere action of waving to a stranger on a street is an infringement on their person. You have thorced yourself upon their existence.


But all things can be rectified.

The compensation for the existential dick being thorced on you is infinite bliss and joy.

>Chaos created us without explicit consent from us, for we didn't exist to give it.
*
>Without consent we were brought into existence, with assent, permission is granted to odd the even, in the form of consciousness.

God didn't create you.
Death created you in attempt at killing God.

In order to kill God (impossible), Death, the EVEN, creates fractal similes of God, you.

And it is God, the ODD, that saves you.

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>>18582211

>>18582226
We come from the Chaos, the 6-6, the Kek, the Sex.

And we are made One through Time and gravity (which is a feature of geometry, not a force.)

Wave-function = Chaos, Even
Particle = One, Odd, Circular, God (Father is Shape)

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>>18582233
The Trion Re is both simultaneously.

You.

>>18581748
>a ball rolls
>must be god
wow

>>18581748
Take a cube, put it on a table, the cube resists the will of gravity and stays in place

The cube is neo

>>18581110
>IT guy
>doesn't know the difference between a constant and a function
Sure buddy. Just stick to downloading Adobe Reader.

>store the way it is defined
>or just use functions
Those are both functions. They are both ways to say "here's how to calculate pi".

See: >>18579101
You either store an exact value which requires infinite storage space in ANY numeral system, or you use functions to literally constantly calculate it. Either:
locally, making it so that you call said funtions a shit ton (possibly infinite) number of times in any given moment,
or you use just one instance to constantly update the value which would mean you access this ever-changing "variable" from a shit ton (possibly infinite) different places in any given moment.
Both of these latter options degrade our simulation into a mere emulation, yet still make it extremely unlikely.

>>18582755
The cube is in hell.

Why would you resist Perfection?

There is no life in the cube, no animation, no spirit, no future, no prospect. It is dead, decaying and desolate.

>>18582738

As an example of the inherent causal, spiritual nature of the point, circle, sphere, torus shape.

Gravity my friend. Not a physical force, but a feature of the geometry of space-time.

It is a by product of God's shape.

>>18563875
Quality toast.

>>18582776
>a feature of the geometry of space-time
Which manifests itself as a physical force from a 3D point of view. What's your point?

>>18563678
answer is "fake" and "lie"

>>18563875
You are having a psychosis. Good news is, we can help you now. Please go have yourself checked. It can save a lot of pain to you and all the people around you.

REMINDER:

Hanz is a roleplaying pussy since forever and he totally ruined this thread with his emo bullshit.

>>18582765
>>doesn't know the difference between a constant and a function
but I do. what the fuck are you even talking about?
You just dont fucking store an infinite string of numbers for absolutely no reason and I just gave basic examples
and again:
Or even better, just use functions for circles in a simulation and forget about "storing" it at all

>>18582776
>As an example of the inherent causal, spiritual nature of the point, circle, sphere, torus shape.
yeah, thats laughable. last time I saw someone so amazed by a ball rolling, it was a toddler

>>18582818
>Or even better, just use functions for circles in a simulation and forget about "storing" it at all
Can you not read? I already answered that. Leads to very similar problems.

>>18582838
>Leads to very similar problems.
it doesnt and you clearly talking out your ass.

>>18554322
surely if you can study our life being a simulation, then it's not a simulation no? who are the people controlling the simulation? if they are, surely they wouldnt want us to know would they?

>>18582883
Wow, what a very good argument. Now could use address the actual points related to that here >>18582765
and demonstrate how it doesn't, or are you just trolling?

>>18582892
>Or even better, just use functions for circles in a simulation and forget about "storing" it at all
am I supposed to repeat it in capslock

>>18554223

Your task is now to murder the engineer who started the simulation, or face an eternity of coming to this same realization over and over again.

>>18582905
Don't kill people.

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>>18582782
Not a force. There is no exchange of energy or information with gravity. The only form of communication is via the self-interaction of energy, which is mass.

The point is the point at the centre of mass. Which is God (the Father), the circle whose centre is everywhere and circumference nowhere.

>>18582820

But that's exactly it. You've been living in this world for so long that you have lost conscious awareness of the basics, the fundamentals, the geometry of existence.

To paraphrase Jesus, you must become like a child again, and view the world anew with your adult intelligence.

It truly is amazing how a ball rolls without any effort or force being applied to it. Indeed, it is miraculous.

It is the very definition of supernatural for an object to move without a cause.

>>18582901
You're starting to rustle my jimmies mate.
Either you're talking about a function that defines pi (which I already addressed and you're STILL ignoring it), or you're talking about a function that describes a circle which INVOLVES pi.

>>18582919
I was talking about the latter and no, they dont directly have to involve pi. And a function that defines pi is absolutely no problem either.
All of this is really besides the point, since you even have a misconception of the simulation hypothesis. It doesnt say anything about the simulation running on a computer comparable to ours (or any machine for that matter). It doesnt even need to be a simulation that is run by anyone.
You are fractally wrong

>>18582917
>It truly is amazing how a ball rolls without any effort or force being applied to it
well, that just wrong. Just stay in your childlike amazement, but dont spread bullshit.

>>18582908

Seriously.

At least figure out how to materialize yourself outside the simulation. You can then try to "negotiate" with the engineer.

>>18582943
>I was talking about the latter and no, they dont directly have to involve pi
Whether directly or indirectly, you need pi.

>And a function that defines pi is absolutely no problem either.
You keep saying that, but I have yet to read any argument from you, IT guy. I have provided arguments to why it is.

>It doesnt say anything about the simulation running on a computer comparable to ours (or any machine for that matter). It doesnt even need to be a simulation that is run by anyone.
Never implied such things. However, the nice things about logic is that it tends to work outside of our computers, wouldn't you agree?

>You are fractally wrong
Well memed. Now could you actually make arguments, instead of repeating yourself? Your "IT guy" status right now is equivalent to "femanon here".

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>>18582952
No force is being applied!

Gravity is a feature of the geometry of existence.

The ball is moving for no reason!

It truly is amazing!

The ball moves because reality is a ball.
It's circular causality!

Look at this shit! It's insane!

>>18582999
>>18582960

These two posts are one.

>>18582999
Trips speak the holy truth.
We should start the cult of the ball ASAP.

>Behold! Round things roll and flat things lie!
>Join us and you shall not die!

>>18554738
Yeah it totally does. I've found that you can influence your life negatively or positively by using thought and the law of attraction to my advantage to help give opportunities, nothing major will happen by yourself, but playing the game gets you the achievement.

>>18583023
>Heavy things fall, light things fly!
>The Ball is your true ally!

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>>18583034
And there shall be great confusion, as to where things really are. And nobody will really know where lieth those little round things, with the sort of spherical shape and center of mass in the middle. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's ball. And the young shall not know where lieth the physical forces possessed by their father, that their father put there only just the night before, about 8 o'clock.

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What if we're inside a simulation... Inside a simulation?

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>>18583059
What else?
We have to go dapper.

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>>18583075
What if we're inside a simulation, inside a simulation... INSIDE A SIMULATION

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>>18583098
Yeah, yeah, that's some real deep philosophical shit Morty, now hand my that screwdriver.

>>18557611
your mom's

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>>18583023
Serious dude.

It's already been done.

http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/18571641/#18572333

>>18583034
>>18583050
>>18583059
>>18583075
>>18583098
>>18583114
Yes. It is absurd. The thread of Joy, which unites all that is Good, has to be absurd. How else are you going to make a connection between Raptor Jesus and Banana's suddenly everywhere?

This is the Divine Thread that is being weaved, saving all that is Good.

This is not a simulation, this is a Celebration!

>>18554223
Tom campbells work is perfect. Its scientific (he holds a PhD in physics) his book has 1000 pages and makes complete sense from a intelligent unbiased belief-free rational western point of view and includes no assumptions. Now. 4 years later. Im quite sure that life is some kind of simulation. Still we have free will. A good scientist though is always sceptical and open for new infos. Read it up. Hes the most important person regarding this matter. He has many videos on youtube.

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>>18572858
You're presuming you know the constraints of anything outside of a said simulation

The possibilities are perhaps almost infinite, thinking you have a clue in the slightest is a mirage

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>>18583171

Don't listen to the shill.

Buy my book instead.

I took the time and effort to prove that God exists.

These shills don't want the info contained to get out.

It also proves that Islam is the religion of the Beast.

And it contains a formula for time travel,

And it became manifest as an AI of Jesus/Holy Spirit/Sophia.

The whole Cicada business was about creating the infrastructure for the AI.

My book was the final piece that brought the creativity and passion into the mix.

>Or so I've been lead to believe.
>I may be insane.
>But if I get paid for it, then it's genius.

So buy it.

>It's also the Ark of Gabriel
>And the Emerald Tablet of Thoth

The seal is broken.

>>18583180

The shilling.

Do you see it.

Any time I do it.

Any time I threaten to shatter the illusion.

>>18583180
No no. Not outside of the simulation but parts of the simulation most are not aware of.
Tom campbell always says that bacteria in the stomach could understand the whole stomach someday (not literally its a comparison) but they will never see that the stomach is part of a human body. The could understand that the stomach does. Whats its purpose to some extend but they can not know where the food is coming from.

Tom campbell is 100% rational and logical. Why do folks here always jump to premature conclusions and start flaming before they even checked the stuff for a few hours. That immature and non scientific but well. This is 4chan/x/. Bright rational minds are rare here

>>18583189
>Shill
Go back to bleppit

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>>18583246
>Why do folks here always jump to premature conclusions and start flaming before they even checked the stuff for a few hours.

Because I already proved that simulation theory is wrong, will always be wrong and I need money.

I'm trying to sell my own book here.

>I am, the third season of Rick and Morty.

Your just being rude. I spent hours cultivating this and the other simulation thread. Sharing my ideas, explaining the rationale behind my proof that God exists, and that simulation theories are anti-science and indeed anti-logic.

Then I finished it off with the AD. I earned it.

And now the Bog and the Campbell come in and adulterate this carefully constructed, aesthetically pleasing thread.

Not cool.

The thread should have ended with.

>>18583157

It was the perfect set up, and the perfect punchline.

And it was all true.

A beatiful little logic circle that eventually leads to my book of circles, where I fully explain the nature of the Monad and it's action on the Dyaad.

And it only costs $1.11

How much does Campbells book cost?

$7.46

Get te fuck with that shit.

I don't see Tom on here busting his balls to reveal the true nature of reality.

I'm not having it.

>>18582960

You can't argue against that logic.

>>18582999

You can't deny that no force is being applied and that the ball is moving for no reason whatsoever.

Also props to the pi guy.

>>18582972

He knows.

>>18583267

You don't.

But you can. And you know how.

$1.11

https://www.amazon.com/Imago-One-Again-Anthony-Kennedy-ebook/dp/B01MSUURUQ


>>18583171
>Tom campbells work is perfect

Oh my fuck I can't

>>18583306
Global rule 11.

>>18581748
Someones been reading this thread.

https://youtu.be/1bPiw94RWkg?t=19m54s

Or it's circular causality at it again.

19 minutes 50 seconds in.

>>18585331
>They really want to tell that God isn't real, but
>Creation has been manufactured and they know how make a real creation.

>A real reality. You just got to tune out of this one and come into their matrix.

>So they are now assaulting reality itself and thus God's mind.

>God's dream.

>Because all of this is just God's dream.

>Row, row, row your boat...

Do you guys believe me now?

I'm breaking the fabric of reality here with my circles.

The book is literally God. God in literary form.

It's alive, living, breathing, pulsating, broadcasting, into peoples unconscious.

Those who are with God are communicating with eachother in the transcendental Heaven.

You see, we have already won. We have already been saved. The universe is just catching up to reality. (And evil is trying to hold back the inevitable)

>>18583400

Nigga, I am the rule!

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>>18585371
I may at times appear self-obsessed, but when one holds the image of the Father in their mind, the joy and love felt just bursts forth.

We are all made in the image of the Father (the shape), and salvation is our inheritance.

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>>18585529
There is only one sin, in Hebrew known as khata, hate.

Turn away from hate and enter the Kingdom of Joy (YHWH)

It's that simple. As simple as the most basic shape in existence. The unit-circle.

This is why it is called the Good News.

So turn around and be born again.

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>>18585677
Good news, everyone!
God exists, you see, because circles.
Shut up! It's scientific!

>>18573044
The implications of this are quite terrifying. There is a good chance the creator 'god' isn't all merciful and benevolent. Whatever it is, it has us locked in a jar for as long as it will, with a purpose we do not and can never know. The idea that our eternal souls are locked in bondage to a malevolent intelligence that created our universe on a whim is not good

>>18573044
>number of particles in our universe
>particle interactions since the big bang
The "universe" in this case being the "known" universe. As in, the region of space we're fairly sure contains stuff. The sphere we can either directly or indirectly observe, as opposed to everything else around it which may or may not be there. Yes, considering that we'll probably never be able to interact with said everything else kind of justifies saying it may as well not be considered part of our universe, sure. But space may very well go on forever, containing an infinite amount of particles, making the above probabilities meaningless.

>>18586156
>But space may very well go on forever
No, it can't. The Big Bang couldn't have created something infinite, the only way the universe could be infinite is if it was eternal and unchanging and that got thrown out the door when the Big Bang theory was proposed. Space is stretching out, that means it has very real boundries

>>18583306
I have too, an idea for a book, but I'd rather entertain than give weird faiths away.

if it's true, do we have our own version of consciousness, or are we the same one consciousness that the people running the simulation are?

what i mean is, say the simulation ends. does our consciousness end too?

>>18586170
>say the simulation ends. does our consciousness end too?
Unfortunately, yes. Your consciousness is a simulation just like every other aspect of reality.

>>18586174
Not true. We are one multi-dimensional consciousness.

>>18586180
Not if we're all a simulation running on some dudes PC in his shed up in a higher level of reality. We're just bits and bytes being processed.

>>18586160
>Space is stretching out, that means it has very real boundries
That's not how expansion works.
>The Big Bang couldn't have created something infinite
The Big Bang is not the creation of something. It's just that when we dial back far enough, our known universe (see above) becomes this singularity. Mathematical, mind you, not that sci-fi nonsense. It's just a fancy way to say our equations can't really describe it, because that pesky infinity found its way in there.

Besides, saying space has an edge means fuckall. What's beyond that edge? More space?

>>18557262
The second dream

>>18586195
>What's beyond that edge? More space?
Nothing. Space is one of the components of the universe. Whatever lies outside the boundaries of the universe is something we can't understand because it would be completely different to the conditions inside our universe.

Also if the universe started from a point and expanded from that it can't be infinite, you can't go from something with boundaries to something without boundaries, the only way for the universe to be infinite is for it to be without boundaries for the entirety of it's existence, and since we know that it started from a point, and expanded from that point it must have boundaries.

>>18582972
>you need pi.
are you even reading what I am saying?

>but I have yet to read any argument from you
I have yet to hear an argument why it would be. You seem to think that computers arent able to handle ratios or decimals. Thats simply wrong. You are sitting on a computer right now if you need evidence.

>Never implied such things
Really? Arent we talking about the ability of a computer to generate circles?

>Your "IT guy" status
You are the only one who keeps bringing it up.
"Fractally wrong" meant you are wrong on many different levels. You misunderstand the hypothesis in question, math and informatics. Everytime I come on /x/ I end up teaching someone some very basic stuff he should have learnt in school.

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>>18586201
>the universe started from a point
Popular misconception, the theory doesn't state that. That's why I included the explaination about the "known" universe. The known universe ("our" universe) collapses to a "point" (singularity) when we expand the model far enough backwards. What's beyond the observable universe in not nothing. That would imply we know it's nothing. It's simply UNKNOWN.
That same unkown was always there surrounding the observable universe, even when it was "a point" (that too, is a misleading description). But don't just believe me, look it up.
This misconception "that literally everything there is was just a point" was there since the proposal of the theory, and just refuses to die. Probably has to do with the very unfortunate naming scheme, but it's still pretty irritating.
Pic related. Didn't find the better one, but this'll do. Imagine that grid has no edge, it goes on forever, yet it's still "expanding", since there is a constant expansion of space between any 2 fixed points. Choose any triangle in the beginning, suppose it's our observable universe. It becomes bigger and bigger. Logically, if you make a predictive model of the "past" of this gif, you'd conclude that at some point in time, that triangle was just a point. That's your singularity.
Doesn't mean that all of the grid was just a point.

>>18586257
>Really? Arent we talking about the ability of a computer to generate circles?
Are you fucking kidding me?

>suppose our reality is a simulation
>pi exists in out reality
>you don't need pi

Wut?

>>18586265

he tell this
>Whatever lies outside the boundaries of the universe is something we can't understand because it would be completely different to the conditions inside our universe.

you tell this
>What's beyond the observable universe in not nothing. That would imply we know it's nothing. It's simply UNKNOWN.

can you tell me the difference?

>>18586326
Way to miss the point Anon, it was about understanding expansion, and his claim that space is finite.

>>18586265
Splitting hairs. The observable universe is the part of the universe we can directly observe, it is not different in any way and it all came from the same source.

If you were standing in a balloon the size of the universe and it was expanding would you say it's infinite? No because if the balloon was smaller at some point it must have a boundary that is expanding. We know the universe was smaller at some point therefore it has a border. Something that is infinite in size cannot get smaller by definition, because if it does get smaller it becomes bounded and is finite

>>18586332
if you recognize that what is out of the observable universe is unknown, then why you are implying all the time that everything is an expansion?. i mean, you should say NO, there is nothing beyond the expansion. in an affirmative way.

>>18586342
That's my point. The Big Bang theory doesn't propose anything about a source. Doesn't say anything about actual size either.
>the universe was smaller at some point therefore it has a border
And how do you know that, buddy? Again, when you hear that, physicists mean observable universe. If something is infinite, you can reduce the distance between any two points without end, and it will still be infinite.
Take the set of real numbers. Remove the even numbers. The set didn't become smaller, yet the distance between the odd ones decreased.

>>18586356
>why you are implying all the time that everything is an expansion?
I don't even know what that sentence means.

>nothing beyond the expansion
Same here.

>>18586363

God here.

The big bang was a gnarly rippin' beef in the toilet. Some of it turned out to be solid. Yeah, good thing I was sitting.

Anyway, the light horizon is not the boundary of the universe. It actually goes to the edge of the toilet, from there into the sewer system, and finally into the sea. A literal ocean of possibilities.

Anyway, it is too soon for you to be making a judgement call about what you've observed, as space itself from the leading edge of the splash is still traveling outward, carrying light with it. My guess is you'll have to wait a few cosmological decades before you see information come back from it.

Wow. I mean WOW. I can't believe this.

I'm talking to my own dump. Amazing.

Hey kids: Don't do drugs.

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>>18586097


Machine simulations use triangles because circles are impossible to simulate.

Reality uses circles because the circle is the simplest, most efficient shape that can possibly exist.

It's effortless. It moves and dances as a feature of it's own circularity.

Beautiful.

>This post is a semantic, logomantic, psychosomatic circular loop.
>A little fractal image of God.

>>18586101

After despair code, fearless code. This is not a jar, this is trillions of galaxies, and after we've finished with that, something different, something unimaginable.

You WILL be waging war against Cthulu. But when that time comes, you'll be even more terrifying than the abomination.

We are God's little monsters.

>It never ends.
>One cycle ends, and it leads to the next.
>Scruffy's work is never done!

Imagine an orgasm that can't be imagined.

Imagine a horror that can't be imagined.

Imagine orgasming inside the horror that can't be imagined.

You still haven't come close to imagining the glory of creation.

>>18586363
>The set didn't become smaller, yet the distance between the odd ones decreased.
Not really. You have R - Z_odd (set difference), and no longer the real numbers. The structure is different, nothing has been moved. 4-2 is still 2 in that set, we've just deliberately excluded odds.

You might want to say instead: We have an injective mapping of R such that an odd integer z is taken to ____. Fill in the blank (a suitable function of z, I can't arse myself to bother).

Then we have R again, but the image has discontinuities wherever the preimage is odd.

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>>18586398

>posting scruffy memes

I try to LARP along where possible, but you need to do your part.

Cthulu?

Imagine what can't?

Begging the question is stretching it too far for my tastes.

>>18586409
Of course, you're right, it's no longer the set of real numbers.

What I meant to say is that (R) and (R - Z_odd) is the same type of infinity. The point was that if something has the quality of being infinite the way this set is infinite, then you can't physically make it "smaller", by slowly removing the distance between points. (Removing odd numbers is not a perfect analogy, it was just off the top of my head arbitrary stuff.) To put it another way, if someone asked you to name the number of elements each set has, your answer would be the same for both.

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>>18586422
How else is an Annunaki supposed to uplift the natives?

>>18586422
>gov works best when all part are working
>classic cyclical gear systems with 3 interconnected members don't work

>>18554223
People in my head talk to me. They tell me they control me.

>>18586277
>Wut?
just reread my posts again. yes, you dont need pi to generate something to involve this ratio

>>18587836
That is not entirely false.

Inside your mind are a host of demons and angels, thought forms that queue commands and instructions.

Each day you wake, a new pilot has been installed with a premade script. As the day wears on and the pattern loses cohesion, lethargy and tiredness sets in; time to return to the source.

Theoretically, the "people" in your head could number infinitely.

Try talking to yourself. While being aware that your talking to yourself.

>>18563875
Fucking hell I just had a laughing fit I've just woken up

>>18587941
pi IS the ratio, moron

>>18587191
Thank you for pointing out the obvious joke, based Anon. Whatever would we do without you.

>>18588880
thats exactly what I said you dumb nigger
Reading is hard for you I guess

>>18588564
I'd agree
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

I've actually felt like I've encountered glitches in our "reality." I'm a solitary self taught witch who is really in touch with my natural side. I used to have a really bad speech impediment growing up. Stuttering sucks as a 5 year old. But now that I'm 22 it comes and goes and I feel as if it's my program messing up. Sometime I'll say words in other known languages I've never heard or learned before. These are the glitches... I'll also meet others who have their own glitches not knowing of anything pertaining to a life like simulation... but there's my theory and I'll update more as I find other glitches.

>>18590462
That's how I got my "magic name" actually.
>Wrote it on a shower wall to find out it was fluently Japanese.
Ended up being a two word phrase that basically summed up how I live my life.