How is your understanding of reality coming along?

I have no idea.

Just fine. It's more about doing things exactly as you say them, with true conviction.
The line blurs back and forth between the law of attraction and hard work.
Though things come together in threes, and multiply back and forth.
At least that's the set of time I have out for myself. Pretty sure you can do any number.
It's all mathmatical.

>>18523431
Good enough to know I shouldn't give a fuck

Nihilism is the only sound path that's not full of delusion.

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It cannot be grasped. I've been everywhere there is to be in my mind. Reality follows a logical pattern but the pattern runs on behind the wall of existence. I think sometimes that I should follow it but I'm afraid I won't ever come back. I think I might get lost. I don't know if it's a puzzle or a stage show.

Well despite my personal views on the man, i think Albert Einstein said it best “The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”


Soooo.... This... >>18523448

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>>18523496

Forgot to attach pic.

I have a very long road ahead, my work on the five instances is slow. i still only see what is before me, with the faintest of glimmers of more scattered about.

>Selfishness & Ego:
I am still bound by the material rather tightly, perhaps on some level I sabotage my own efforts for fear of change itself. It is a difficult shackle to cast aside-- to be content with merely what is needed to survive, and breaking the insidious foe/guardian which is the ego.

>Fear of Rejection:
The instilled desire for excessive accumulation because it is what the world at large tells us gives us worth, as a being, is a subtle thing. It's very easy to feel like you know your worth, and that others no longer determine it for you, but it is another matter to actually live it instead of simply saying it.

>Perception of Faith:
Great strides I have made in coming to terms with what religion is. Different paths to the same end, yet while the ego remains it is difficult to completely remove the perceptions that interfere with harmony.

>Discipline:
I am not a master of my own mind, nor even the meanest of neophytes at controlling that which has until now been left to run free as it so wishes. Old habits die hard, I believe the old chestnut goes. In truth, I am little more than a clever animal that yearns to be more, yet balks at what seems an insurmountable task when the work does not yield results quickly enough. I feel hope, but, y'know. Old habits & excuses.

>Ignorance:
At long last, I have come to understand I am ignorant beyond my capacity to elucidate. To know there is so much more out there, to know I still crawl, and have yet to truly take even a first toddling step, is humbling.

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>>18523431
P.S. /x/ is one of the worst boards.

You have to be delusional or naive to post here.

>>18523431

>Driving to work, randomly remember the $2 coin exercise from Prometuheus rising
>Think about coin for a second, forget about it
>3 hours later was to car, snag foot on $2 coin

>Driving home from work get to stop light, car in front of me has a license plate ending in 77
>Get to next set of lights, car in front of me is a different car, but the plate also ends in 77

All I know about reality is that I know virtually nothing about reality, either scenario in my head (either I manifested the coin, or knew the coin was going to come into my reality, it's either Magick, precognotion or 'coincidence', though my rational mind at this point can no longer make an argument for coincidence, it just gets BTFO, leaving manifestation or 'knowing'), shit is getting wild.

This is after my speedo in my car ticked over to 177777 right on new years eve, literally as the clock ticked over, and after I made a huge sum of money gambling on the election because i felt like trump would win.

If I'm losing my mind, it's been extremely profitable so far, let's see where the road goes.

in lakech

>>18523448
>this guy gets it

>>18523465
right
>>18523475
yep

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>>18523475
Nihilism is full of delusion and logical fallacies.
If things dont exist its impossible to say "Nihilism is best".
If things exist permanently then change or movement couldn't happen.

The best path is The Great Middle Way. Rejecting both eternalism and nihilism.
Everything is an interdependent illusion like a dream, but illusions still affect us.

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>>18523496
>The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
Everyday.
Everyday I reject more and more of what I was moulded to be like by society too.

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I think I'm starting to understand it a lot better within the last few months. Tell me if I'm right, or on the right path at least

>Were all one
>Time is an illusion
>Every point in space in time is connected and accessible through consciousness

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>>18523841
why are we all one?

reality is lame.

wheres that blue pill at

>>18523431
I don't know man how do we even quantify such a thing? In the words of the great sage, Wheezy F. Baby Baby, AKA Lil Wayne, Young Wheezy, etc.- I'm somewhere in between joy and pain

>>18523849
Were all eventually from the same source. The one people call it. Everything Forever.

I've been watching and reading some things on sacred geometry and they say the universe is in the shape of a toroid and everything is just an infinite cycle of interdimensional fractal fuckery. I feel like I've lost my point.

>>18523861
dont watch spirit "science" doot shit is retarded

>>18523865
What would you recommend? I like shit like that and aliens.

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>>18523431
My current state of being is,

>Knife
>Shark
>Shark is Dick
>Who is knife?

>>18523431

What does the B J on the columns stand for?
Blow Job?

>>18523431
Pretty okay.

>>18523488
Underrated

>>18523861
Fractal is the point my child
Your life is a fractal, live it that day. Whatever you do begets the same And threefold. Karma is a magnetic force.

>>18523865
Thoroughly.

Also don't buy into synchronicity, fate, religion, and the such. Assess yourself and figure out what it is that you are good at

>>18523945
Spirit Science is bullshit but don't you go talking smack about Jung or we'll have words.

>>18523431
Still trying to get out of the "everything is a simulation" nihilism hole and create meaning for myself. But yeah, pale blue marble, incidental consciousness hurling through the unfathomably vast nothingness, all that standard shit. It's a nice feeling.

>>18523865
Fo reelz! They think Jews are time traveling shapeshifting aliens from Mars. Yeah

>>18523610

t. Illuminated shill

>>18523935

Boaz jachim

>>18523475
Nihilism is for cunts, desu

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>>18523431
everyone seems to have a path here in this thread.

reality is what you beleive it to be. follow your own path. beleive what you like to.

>>18523431
Trying to unify myself with you and all to be it, prob should stop trying and be.

>>18523431
Understanding? I am reality.

>>18523431
This always gets me.

You have no ideas of your own understanding of reality... except for the idea that you have no idea.
Or similarly, the claim that we don't know anything would imply that we know something.
>hurr that just means you don't know anything including the fact that you don't know anything
Is that a fact?

Every time. It's fucking maddening. Sometimes I think reality is just like one giant self referencing logic pretzel.

>>18524380
meant to link to >>18523448

>>18524377
You can understand reality and be reality at the same time.
Reality is being aware and understanding by itself.

Reality is dependend on the observer or experiencer of reality

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>>18524363
Everyone wants to be happy therefor
paths that lead to genuine hapiness are correct. Paths that do not are wrong.

Sometimes if we belief whatever we want, its just our delusional ego lieing to us, so that we feel happy in tge short term, but dont feel satisfaction and contendness in the long term.

Cut your ego at its root and all wrong paths die like branches falling from a tree.

>>18524526
Heroine seems to make people pretty happy.

>>18523448
Fpbp

>>18524532
Pish posh, that's clearly just the ego making you feel all that pleasure from a drug.

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>>18524532
After a while heroin will slowly destroy the body wich is harmful and painful, so thats obviously a wrong path.

Your heroin example proofs the difference between short term pleasure and long term satisfaction and genuine happiness.

One of the main reasons someone would do heroin is because they are unhappy. So the ego tries to 'solve' or avoid the problem by taking a shortcut with heroin.

Replace 'heroin' by tv, anime, videogames, sex, alcohol, cars, computers, drugs, Trump, or porn, and you get a good overview of 4chan.

The only reason there is so much hate on 4chan is because 95% of its users are depressed. Quite pathethic really.

>>18524990
>Projecting.

The New Atlantis is coming soon.

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>>18524992
You are merely projecting the thought that I am projecting.
But its a fact that in general people tend to seek short term pleasures to solve their problems.
Then when obviously the short term pleasures get exhausted and dont really solve the problem people become bitter, insecure, angry, cynical, shortsighted, close minded, and full of hatred.

Their hatred only consumes them from the inside and try to even find more short term pleasures and instant gratification until at some point they either an hero, shoot up a public place, join a terrorist organisation, or just live a depressive lonely life.

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>http://deoxy.org/shamanway.htm
>First they showed me the planet Earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land, and a bright blue sky. Then black specks dropped from the sky by the hundreds and landed in front of me on the barren landscape. I could see that the "specks" were actually large, shiny, black creatures with stubby pterodactyl-like wings and huge whale-like bodies

Life began with biogenic graphite - which is black and shiney;

>http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v7/n1/full/ngeo2025.html
>Evidence for biogenic graphite in early Archaean Isua metasedimentary rocks
>Furthermore, the graphite grains in the schist contain distorted crystal structures and disordered stacking of sheets of graphene

It should be mentioned that what the paper is saying is that life produced lignin, which was then pulled under the Earth and cooked into graphite - which is coal. Lignin is composed of molecules called phenols, which are carbon hexagons with a single oxygen atom attached - C6H6O. Heating a phenol will cause the oxygen atom to fly off - if you do this in the presence of iron, you get graphene;

>https://www.fs.fed.us/research/patents/nanotechnology/lignin.php

Graphene can be attached to nickel or tin to make it more ductile (Graphene is only slightly less brittle than cement,) and if modern humans are descendend from marine life that synthesized graphene in the presence of iron, our salty iron-based blood reveals itself to be the perfect solution to cook for graphene production.

Speaking of which, sokushinbutsu involves eating pine needles - which contain 30% lignin. HCl won't dissolve lignin, and I don't know if the lignin could get into the blood, but if you ate pine needles some amount of lignin might perfuse your blood - if you cooked such blood, you'd graphene.

The Soma drink was supposedly made from a plant, which means lignin. Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism both feature abhisheka, which is supposed to grant siddhis.

literally

>>18524380

Its the human condition. We are paradoxical in nature. We are an anomaly of nature

https://youtu.be/vQgI4bHpAlA

>>18523431
I started understanding to the point where I didn't want to understand anymore. Now I'm trying to understand as little as possible. It's not working out so hot.

>>18523841

>Were all one
>Time is an illusion
>Every point in space in time is connected and accessible through consciousness

Your points 2 and 3 cancel each other out.
You are on the path, think about it

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>>18523431
I get that this is a meme, but it really hit me just recently. The further I go, the more I realize I don't really know.

I used to think that spiritual experiences were hallmarks to understanding. I thought reading books meant actual insight. I thought deep meditative states meant actual insight. I used to believe that I understood my teacher. I used to believe that I was getting close. Lies.

If anything, all that I've learned is that I have been in the way of my own progress. My insistence on finding the correct answer was keeping me from allowing the answer to reveal itself. True understanding must be effortless. It is self-evident.

So my job now is just to stop. Stop grasping for an answer. Stop building up lies. And start just letting the truth shine on its own.

If I can say anything about the spiritual path, it is that it is a destructive path. All along it's just been tearing away at what I thought I knew. Tearing away at my identity of being someone who knows. It took this long just to admit that. And now I'll continue feeding layers of myself into the spiritual fire.

>>18526461
Pretty much the same for me, except I was on the scientific path to find answers. In fact, I have a masters in physics now and was actually in a PhD program when I decided to quit.
I used to be really hardcore dedicated to it, but I couldn't do it anymore because the work became meaningless and I completely lost all my motivation.

Little logic problems slowly chipped away at me until there was nothing left.
My favorite example is gravity because it's one thing that everyone is so fucking sure of themselves exists, yet it's actually really simple to demonstrate that it is impossible for us to say we know 100% that it does. But people will try to deny it. Really shows how tightly most people will grasp to the reality they think surrounds them, even irrationally so.

It started to dawn on me that in all the years I've been alive, and all the physics textbooks I've studies, I could not name a single thing that I know to be 100% true. Not a single fucking thing.
Probably the closest thing is just to claim that pure logic itself has some kind of inherent truth. But we're talking about 100% certainty here so a proof would be needed, yet how do you suppose we go about using logic to prove logic?
Prove that logic is logical? What the fuck does that even mean?

Pretty much everything in physics to our best understanding anyway seems to be pointing at literally everything being relative. I wouldn't be surprised if reality simply doesn't allow for any absolute truths whatsoever.

>>18526527
good times friend
what does your logic say about:
>"Who Am I?"

Two of many, reborn of the digits.
Third still to come.
Chaos, reason and, then, permanence.

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>>18523431
Constantly questioning who i am and what I'm doing here more so now then ever before.

>>18526575
My best guess is basically that I'm an experience.

How can I say the conclusions I draw from my surroundings are absolute truths when we already know they can be faked in a laboratory setting?
Yet as far as I can tell there is one aspect of it that we can't fake, and that's the mere fact that you experienced _something_. Maybe what you thought it meant/implied was fake, but the sensation/experience itself was really there.

So it may sound dumb, but still, as far as I can tell mere experience is the most fundamental aspect of my being. Not my memories, not my "personality", not my ability to think, or my brain. Just experience.

>>18526670
experience is in the past. it relies on your memories. the past isn't real, it can not be.

> who am I?

good

>>18526689
>experience is in the past
What makes you say that? I'm not talking about experience like what you would think of as "gaining experience" or "that was a great experience"

Note that what I'm really talking about is something that is literally considered to be impossible to define. So if you take my words literally then you won't understand it.
The sensations of being alive, the experience of a moment, or just "consciousness"
are all attempts to describe something that is untouchable by science today. But that of course doesn't mean that will always be the case, and it doesn't mean that there isn't something real in the experience of being alive just because we can't define it yet.

>>18526527
On gravity, have you read the somewhat-recent theory by Erik Verlinde? (just google "erik verlinde gravity" if you havent)

He's still ballparking what gravity is, but at least he has developed a theory that can account for gravity NOT being a fundamental source of nature but rather as something that arises somehow.

Which, if true, it would simply BTFO basically everything Newton, Einstein, and anyone else who thought of gravity as a fundamental force.

I'm nowhere near as science-y as you but this paper singlehandedly convinced me that all "laws" of physics and such are bullshit and just part of the illusion. As you said, there truly is nothing that can be proved 100% true and that the proof will last forever.

>>18524526
But without my ego there to make up stupid crap I don't really need, all I want is love and attention.

>>18524990
>>18525026
autism

>>18527693
Doesn't really matter what theory you propose, and in fact it doesn't even have to be gravity, what I was talking about can really apply to anything.

It might sound dumb at first, but if you're honest with yourself I can't see any other conclusion.

Take a hypothetical universe that at every instant in time randomly changes its configuration. Then let the set A contain all possible configurations of that universe.
Then let B contain all possible _sequences_ of elements of A. (e.g. all possible sequences of random configurations of the universe)
Well 1 element of B (one sequence of random events) is going to be a logical looking universe, maybe even complete with gravity and intelligent life and seemingly predictable "laws" even though none really exist.

Of course saying that such a thing could describe our universe seems completely ridiculous, however I don't know about you, but it prevents me from ever saying I can know something like physical laws with absolute certainty.
To me "absolute certainty" means you are 100% aware of all possible explanations of a thing that are possible to fathom based on your knowledge, and you are able to prove that there is not a single element of the set of those possibilities that contradicts your theory.
Note that the above description does not care how big the set of possibilities is. Most people tend to think if you have 1 possibility that is infinitely more likely than any other that it means you can say you "absolutely" know the answer.
But then consider the problem of picking at random a real number from the set [0:1]. Because that set is infinitely large every single number has a statistical probability of 0 of being selected. Yet some number still has to be chosen right? So statistical probabilities and limits actually don't give us absolute knowledge of what can and can't happen like most people think.

>>18523431
Not too well apparently. I am constantly reminded of how insignificant and powerless I am at trying to make sense of reality... I think I should abandon trying, but I won't let myself. :(

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>>18523448
Good answer.

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Asking /x/ about reality is a little bit like asking /a/ how to connect to your little sister, isn't it?

>>18527858

Pretty much. 'Bout the same odds of tentacles getting mentioned, too.

>>18527958
Oh, anon...

>>18527974
definite misuse of obnoxious catchphrase

your understanding of reality must be very poor if you can't even figure out when it's appropriate to post something on an imageboard and when it doesn't really make sense

>>18527980
autism

>>18527851
This.

>>18523431
Greatest trap is to think highly of the intellectual faculties and restraining one's own understanding in conjunction with what the status quo expects of everyone

I won't claim anything tho but it's frightening to think that none of this matter(no pun intended) when you reach a point in your understanding of deeper things in life

I still have a shitload to learn, but holy fuck it's rewarding to look for answers and let the tao guide me towards the situations and circumstances that enables understanding of a molecular fraction of information to the whole

The whole universal dualistic aspects to existence is really a mindfuck when you see it for what it is

>>18528393
How can I let the Tao guide me?

>>18528803
You must be like the Tao

For this, read the Tao Te Ching.

>>18523929
lold
not op

>>18529127
Thank you

>>18526461
Agree fully

>>18526461
Spiritual path is a destructive because it destroys the delusions you have created yourself

>>18526527
>I have a masters in Physics

No you don't.

>>18529470
Do you?

I was writing, and everything ends deleted...

In resume, i know nothing and in fact everything. I see myself hanging out with duality, beyond his domines. I'm a paradox. And the only thing i can say without perturbing your own path with my own shared universe is:

If you want to live, follow the sun. If you want to die, follow the moon. If you want to be free, be with both in the same room.

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It's slow going. Recent months feel like a low point in a few ways. Right now I'm focusing on finding my way again.

Relationships have been strained, and some broken. But I've accepted that this can be the price of truth. I'm questioning whether my 'best friend' will remain as such or if we'll drift away.

I need to meditate more, so at least I know the next step in my journey.

It is what it is.

I had no leverage, nothing to offer, have accomplished nothing, achieved nothing, elevated and established nothing, but I am being given precisely what I asked for, as well as everything I didn't. Children think their parents are evil because they don't understand them. Then they realize the true cruelty is to be made in the image of another. And then finally they become parents themselves.

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It's going but the more I dig in, the more I continue to distance myself more and more from those around me

My mind is lately focused only on really big things. Things that only I understand or otherwise would have to spend days explaining to someone "normal". Now I have nothing to talk about with people I know because my interests lie so far away from theirs. Sure I could pretend to like what they like and to be interested in "things" but I've also been there and an existence of acting and pretending is worse than no existence.
I've become much more distanced, and I can only see this rift growing. I read somewhere that the enlightened existence or even the seeking existence is a lonely one. I now know this.

Anyone else feel like this?

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>>18531552

>>18524990
after a while, being alive will slowly destroy the body which is harmful and painful, so thats obviously a wrong path

>>18532231
i know this is meant to be funny but I don't consider myself to be any more intelligent than anyone else. I'm just a bit further down the spiritual path, but it makes all the difference really. Everyone will get here and "there" too but at their own pace. It's just lonely that no one I know is here too.

>>18532395
How would you truly know if anyone you knew was already 'there' you wouldn't, just as they wouldn't

>>18532406
It is definitely very evident what each person is most concerned with. You can most definitely tell whether a person is still caught up in purely materialistic desires and when they're not (which is by far most people in any western, first-world country)

>>18532422
It's hard not to live chasing 'materialistic' things in a capitalist society, what else is there to do ?

>>18532449
pursue intellectual, artistic or spiritual pursuits

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>>18531552
>>18532395
comfy feel

>>18523431
better, but now i`m more afraid of disinfo agents.
Also i`ve lost my hope on human race.
don´t see REAL purpose in my existence, not depression, just a kind of realisation about how my existence and everything around me is empty of meaning.
language, moral code, social code and such began to lose their importance.
I`m psychologist and the theories and point of view i learnt began to collapse under this new vision of the reality.

Actually making use of occam's razor is making things pretty easy desu

>>18532859
The existence of advanced life is the easiest way in which occam's razor can be proved wrong

I know all about the turtles...

>>18533753

The question is, though: Can your horns fit through the door?

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god is in his kingdom and i am at peace

>>18532262
Stupid. It's happening naturally that way, doing drugs you're obviously destroying yourself on your own accord.

>>18533764
That's a really fucking cool pic

PRAISE KEK

>>18533757

Can the door fit around my horns?

>>18523945
Really it is just a matter of finite tropes/cliches that generatively propagate. Numerous people with similar mindsets drawing towards each other.
Food for Thot.

>>18532601
Know your trope. Play your role.

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>>18531552
Sounds like we're in similar situations.

It's cliche as hell at this point, but I always go back to Morpheus' line in The Matrix:
>You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

People seem to be so sure of reality. But for me, when I dropped my pretenses of what's real and what's not, I could finally begin to see the world for what it is. And that's not to say that I have a complete or accurate understanding, but that I now have the mindset to achieve that understanding.

The most depressing part for me is that I see a sickness that's infected humanity. It manifests in selfishness, materialism, consumerism, malice, etc. And people accept this because "Well, that's just how it is." Yes, but it doesn't need to be! We can work towards changing it for the better!

It's tiring, but all I can do from here is move forward...

>>18533898
Please know that there are more unplugged then there were a month before.
We are at the dawn of the new awakening.
I too have severed my connection to the old system. I am a bored free man until the great happening starts happening.

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>>18523431
It's like I remember as a child.
There is a haunting charm to the world, as if at any moment the veil can be lifted.

And someone doesn't want you to look.

>The world is getting greener all of a sudden.

>>18523431
Can't even understand myself :D

>>18531552
Are you me?

>>18534443
Missed the quads :/

>>18523475
>nihilism

How's being 15 working out for you?