For beginners in alchemy divination or magick

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https://mega.nz/#F!jBk3nBwC!3kbcd3Yb0I1Dkw6GCBLY1A
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/uldbxpm2nyw7a

>>18507110
OP here this link is perfect for alchemy

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>>18507112
Glad to help, OP.

>>18507103
whats the goal of alchemy magick?

What do i need to start?

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>>18508484

>>18508488
Elaborate? Im a complete novice so ive got no clue what those are.

Hey I'm just wondering but is it possible for me to change the shape of an object using alchemy? Say I had a ton of just random metal could I possibly take that metal and then turn it into a dagger

To be honest that is what caught my attention for learning to do alchemy so I'd appreciate it if someone could help

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>>18508508
the ultimate alchemist herb.. pinecones

>>18508508
the pinecone means smth can't rly remember what it was but it was important

Anyway op i got a question.Is there a short cut or do u actually have to memorize all the shit in your head and will it matter if u do.By that i mean does this actually help in any way with the fact that the world is shit because humans are humans.

>>18508517
Yes

Is it possible if so then what would I need to look into doing?

>>18508517
No you fucking weeaboo

>Does alchemy have any direct relation to the zodiac, or is it just related through some reach-around with the kabbalah?

>Can you compare alchemy with tattwas? Are they interchangeable?

>Do you know the correspondences between the elements in rune magic and the alchemical elements? Is ice supposed to be earth? In that case, what is earth supposed to be?

>>18507103
I need help with something, Im not sure if its beginner or advanced already,
My question is:
How do I combine 27 strings of 27 symbol patterns into 1 string of 729 symbol pattern without ruining the absolutle balance/symmetry?

Thanks if you are able to give a hint on this...

>>18508745
Do it twice?

What is meant by the green lion eating the sun?

What are some resources to understand Rosecrucianism in its pure form?

Explain Archons/energy vampires/unforgivable sin.

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how do i make this?
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>>18507103
What is the Gold made out of?
How should I begin my studies?
Are Platos solids a key?

>>18508775
Twice?
As in use the matrix of 3 and the matrix of 6 to find how?
A bit more hint please if you really know..

>>18508880
>Are Platos solids a key?

No.


>How should I begin my studies?

Read Fulcanelli, and the books he leads you to.

I know absolutely nothing about magick where can I start

>>18507103
I want to create the philosopher's stone to be immortal, where do i start?

>>18509033
See>>18508900

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Alchemy:
1: Make up a bunch of horseshit
2: Nearly a millennium of work
3: Still can't into philosopher's stone
4: ????
5: Wtf

>>18509046
Wrong.

>>18509054
Oh, so someone on Earth can transmute "base" elements into gold? Does his name end in Walton? Because that motherfucker better be the richest man alive or he's a fucking liar. Or are we pretending this is just some pointless metaphor now?

>>18509057
Yes.

>>18509060
No.

>>18509039
>Fulcanelli
But he died before finishing the third book, how can i trust his words???
I don't know... i think you are lying. If it would be that easy as to read someone who didn't finish his books to make the greatest finding in alchemist, everyone would be doing it.

Please, provide me a real source or this thread is fake.

>>18509065
Wrong.

>>18509072
Explain yourself.
In his third book he would reveal everything, but he didn't finish it.

>>18509081
Wrong again.

>>18509083
Well, explain.
I am smelling rp already.

>>18509087
Ok, then leave.

>>18508461
Traditionally, turning base metals into gold, which in key plays a turn in extending the human life span.

Most apprentices use it as an advanced form of herbalism and never achieve those goals.

>>18509093
>Traditionally, turning base metals into gold, which in key plays a turn in extending the human life span.

Wrong.

>>18509100
Apparently learning things make people live longer.

Go figure.

>>18509089
Well, confirmed.

You have readed books that make no sense whatsoever and spit them to fullfil your rp interest.

Don't thanks me for giving you a few (you)'s, good work rp'er.

>>18509109
Heh. What a silly person.

>>18509120
Wrong.

>>18509128
Bye.

>>18509060
>>18509064
Lol, this sounds about right.

>>18509065
People need to start being more skeptical about centuries-old claims that, if true, would set the stage for us to be living in under a COMPLETELY different paradigm than we currently do.

>>18509134
You feel threatened by things you cant fathom. Thats understandable.

>>18509144
This site has become such cancer I can't tell the difference between bait and stupidity anymore. Why would I feel threatened by lies? If alchemy were real, the world would not be remotely the way it now is. PERIOD. Stop being so uncritical in your thought.

>>18509162
Wrong on all accounts. All caps doesnt medicate your stupid logic. Alchemy is ordained by God to be revealed but to few. That hasnt changed and will never change.

Stupidity it's bait.

>>18509133
Bb, have fun with ur rp.

"Our books aren't made for everyone, but they all are called to read them."

"The truth is slow, pity and tortuous."

Yeah right, they are making that way lmao. If they stop being so secretive and pull it to everyone, humanity would make the next step.
But why isn't that happening? Because it DOESN'T HAPPEN.

It's all fake.

>>18509179
Keep being wrong, im loving it.

>>18509184
I am not wrong.
Tell me why i am wrong. From all this chat you never typed a single argument.

Dont even bring "personal effort" to the discussion.

>>18509196
He doesn't have to present arguments, if you are truly wrong.

>meme arrows

>>18509196
The most ironic thing youre an instrument of Gods will without even realizing it. Youre helping to thin out the number of people that will seek alchemy, thus ensuring it will stay in the hands of few. Youre a useful tool. Strange are the ways of the Lord.

>>18509172
Offer proof of this or you're just a plain liar. This isn't a debate.

muh links?

>>18507103
How do i cast quen?

>>18509226
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

>>18509212
Wrong. More people know it, more people practice it and it will get improved beyond knowledge.

Alchemist is for people who want to persuit an unreachable "dream", or just waste their life in a few words.

>>18509235
do i have to read the key of solomon and why if positive

>>18509262
Nah, just start with the Alchemy or beginners section

What is the most basic thing I can do that proves any of this is actually real? I really want to be a believer, but I need proof.

>>18509311
Read what op provides and think its true. Then waste your life trying to achieve something. There will be a point that you will understand that you just threw your life and need money. That moment you will write a book about your awesome findings, baiting people with nonsense and gain a few dolarus.

People who reads your book will keep the circle LOL!!

>>18508508
The pineal gland, a part of the brain which allows oneself to manifest spiritual energy in reality.

>>18509559
Tbh atheists will believe anything a dude in lab coat says. Not that I have a problem with athiests but people really need to start looking for their own answers and stop being such lazy fucks.

>>18509593
Interestingly enough an "unlocked" pineal gland resembles a pinecone.

>>18509607
And by extension a pinecone follows the Fibonacci sequence.

>>18507103
So OP, how far are you in your alchemical practice just so I know you aren't a charlatan?

>>18507103
I don't have any initiatory knowledge I'm just not an idiot like most people.

>>18507103
Aaaand OP has just proven him or herself a charlatan. Unless they are just busy of course.

>>18508538
pinecone symbolizes the pineal gland/third eye/consciousness
alchemy is a spiritual/psychological method.

>>18509311
Apply alchemy to psychology. Become superhuman.

>>18510104
Alchemy is both physical and spiritual. Not knowing this is a red flag that a person has no idea what they're talking about. But 98% percent of /x/ has only very superficial grasp on anything occult, because it's filled with kids and stoners that hate reading.

>>18510267 He wants results.

Do you really think one who knows the spiritual aspect would know not the physical?

>>18510104
Tommy Pynchon is the pineal gland you say?

Do you know where the pinecone thing is from? Is it like a 60s fellow traveller thing or an internet thing or an actual belief for some reason in whereever etc?

>>18510334
Pinecones everywhere. From antiquity.

>>18507103
>magick
crowleyniggerfaggot

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>>18508461
Alchemy is the quest for Unity.
Which implies being able to turn back into light.
Source: Patrick Burensteinas.
(Bible) "You are light and will turn back to light" (mistranslated as "dust")
Also... check us French people in general. We carry the oral tradition of alchemy in these centuries.

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>>18508538
check what the guys on right and left are holding in their right hands

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>>18508682
just found this in the first link given on top of this thread

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>>18509005
http://rexresearch.com/bardon/FBardonInitiationHermetics.pdf

>>18509033
immortality isnt the goal, it's a fool's errand

>>18509057
No.

>>18509065
it's not about trusting, it's about tasting

>>18509065
>everyone would be doing it.
it's so simple children can do it
it's the quest for unity, not complexity

>>18509134
>if true, then
everytime

>>18509162
see what i mean?
the fallacy goes like this : if A was true then (insert my assumptions) therefore it cant be true

>>18509172
yet hens do it, and so do plants

>>18509179
>It's all fake.
sure;-)

>>18509184
skepdicks... hitting the wall they keep well built and oiled everyday

>>18509196
>Tell me why i am wrong.
how could I? You know it's fake.

>>18509196
>never typed a single argument.
you really think you're gonna argue your way into the mysteries of reality?

>>18509207
yup he can just guide anon into the right direction
but then he wont follow his guidance, which makes him DOUBLE WRONG lol

>>18509212
it doesnt have to be into the hands of the few, it's just that very few are willing to do what it takes (give up everything)

>>18509215
sure, set the rules of the game you dont know the solution of then wonder why people tell you you're wrong

>>18509243
yet, it revolves.

>>18509311
that's fine. Are you a nuclear physicist? ;-)

>>18509351
LOL!
Such knowledge!

>>18509673
>I sit on my ass and if you dont give me what i want then I'll shout you're a phoney
everytime

>>18510755
So can someone who sits on their ass regenerate a burn wound at will?