Nov. 22nd 1963 -- JFK Conspiracy Thread

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The Official Story:

John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was assassinated at 12:30 p.m. Central Standard Time (18:30 UTC) on Friday, November 22, 1963, in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas. Fatally shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, he was traveling with his wife, Jacqueline, Texas Governor John Connally, and Connally's wife, Nellie, in a presidential motorcade. A ten-month investigation from November 1963 to September 1964 by the Warren Commission concluded that Oswald acted alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

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President Kennedy's motorcade route through Dallas was planned to give him maximum exposure to local crowds before his arrival,along with Vice President Lyndon Johnson and Texas Governor John Connally, at a luncheon with civic and business leaders in that city. The White House staff informed the Secret Service that the President would arrive there via a short flight from Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth to Dallas Love Field.

The Dallas Trade Mart had been preliminarily selected for the luncheon and the final decision of the place as the end of the motorcade journey was selected by President Kennedy's friend and appointments secretary Kenneth O'Donnell.

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>>18354786

Dealey Plaza is an odd little plaza, featuring a pair of small obelisks.

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>>18354791
Obelisk with Book Depository in background.

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>>18354791

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Bizarre postcard you could buy in Dallas to mail home to the folks showing the Plaza.

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View of plaza from sniper nest.

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>>18354806
Red line shows path of JFK car.
Why did Oswald not fire when car was at point "A"? Car was coming towards him is a straight line. Easier shot.
No, he waits to shoot when car is at "B" going away from him at an angle with trees in the way.

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Weird fact: Working in the same building as Oswald was a man named Billy Lovelady who looked so much like Lee Harvey Oswald that their coworkers often mistook the two.

http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/lovelady/
http://www.orwelltoday.com/readerjfkoswaldlovelady.shtml

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>>18354847
Photos of Oswald outside during the murder or somewhere else were explained away as people seeing Lovelady instead.

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>>18354847

>>18354852
convenient that they dressed the same that day

>>18354812
because Oswald was not the assassin; the killers were set up near grassy knoll, triangulated, ensuring a clean kill with no civilian loss of life and quick getaway.

>>18355256
Well no, they caught him later

>>18355294
so, he changed his clothes between leaving the book depository and going to see a movie?

Shit post, but there's a masonic lodge near dealy plaza. By which I mean walking distance.

Why is this thread so dead? Everybody too busy summoning succubi?

>>18355124
what was he trying to tell her in that quick?

as far as who actually shot JFK, i've heard that one of the people there was a professional hit man who had been working for the Sicilian mob in France, part of the international heroin trafficking syndicate running drugs from the Golden Triangle during Vietnam into Europe and the U.S.A (see: The French Connection) Obviously this could be taken as a connection between the CIA and JFK's assassination.)

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/corsican-assassin-in-dallas-on-day-jfk-killed/

Hey OP cool thread, thanks for the lesson about Dealey plaza and Lovelady the Oswald double. I have to ask you about two things:

a) iirc Oswald had a weird service history, with a lot of time spent in Russia and even had a Russian wife who didn't speak English, and was tied to some intelligence agencies that way. What's the best or weirdest or most damning evidence you've come across in support of Oswald being a spook?

b) what's Jack Ruby's deal? Did he really like to fuck Dachsunds, like James Ellroy wrote in American Tabloid? Seems like he's a link to some pretty dark stuff (getting into elite murder-sex fetish Larry King/Omaha territory here) through his strip club, so why would he get selected as Oswald's assassin? What's the story there? That's something I've always been curious about.

'American Tabloid' is definitely a fun read for the dark-minded conspiracy buff- goes into Oswald, Bay of Pigs and the army of Cubans being trained by the CIA in Miami, the ties between CIA and the Mafia at the highest levels, the heroin trade...

Thanks for making this thread OP! In a strange way I feel like it's something we need to be thinking about more than ever in 2016

Hitman hired by wife after she found out he fucked Marilyn Monroe

Just gonna leave this here..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1pGg-rS26c4

There are no answers, only more questions.

JEWS & LBJ

>>18355478
>elite murder-sex fetish Larry King/Omaha
what?

>>18355489
This

>>18355298
Oswald went back to his apartment, changed clothes, and got his .38 revolver. That was the gun he used to kill officer J. D. Tippit.

>>18355489
>>18355497

>jews
>/pol/

Into the trash it goes

>>18355511
oh, so he liked what Lovelady was wearing so much he just had to go and change?

>>18355518
to be fair... you can point finger at Italian mafia, why can't you point finger at Jewish one? Ethnic crime is ethnic crime.

>>18355518
>Jews never did anything wrong
>Jews have no group interests

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If you're into the JFK case a good book is Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History". Now the book is written to convince you Oswald worked alone, but the thing is over 1600 pages long with a ton of pictures and charts -- very, very comprehensive. Even if you don't buy the Oswald alone idea, it's still a very informative source.

In fact "Reclaiming History" has so much info it undermines Bugliosi's case in places. For instance Buglisosi says, "Yeah some of the SS agents frequented Ruby's strip joint before the assassination. And yeah, Ruby's tax records show some really weird stuff and very odd IRS audits, but it's no big deal." Then Bugliosi provides proof the SS were in Jack Ruby's strip joint before the assassination and shows the weird tax records -- And you're left going, "WHAT? The SS were in Ruby's strip joint? I've never heard of Ruby's weird tax records!! What is going on?" The implication becomes the SS visited him and said, "Hey, like to make that IRS audits go away?"

>>18355531
fucking this. most of the shit yids do falls under RICO

>>18355540
>jews did some things wrong
>blames them for everything, ever

I'm not saying that Jewish groups don't hold vast wealth and power, but automatically shouting "Jews!" whenever anything remotely bad happens is fucking retarded.

You realise that /pol/ is full of anti-Jew Nazi neckbeards, right?

>>18355554
I just ask you to google one thing "Coudenhove Kalergi". Read his full wiki bio

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>>18355548

One of Jack Ruby's strip clubs was a favorite hang out for cops.

The Warren report focus on the fact that Ruby had a history of violent assaults, not on the cops angle: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ruby4.htm

>>18355561
I ask you to google one thing "CIA". Read their list of former employees.

Lee. H. Oswald.
Jack Rubenstein.

Oh....

>>18355553
>>18355554

If you two just want to argue about jews could you go to /pol/? It'd be nice if we could keep the thread about JFK and Dallas.

>>18355575
If you want to dictate what anons talk about on a conspiracy thread then take your meds. It'd be nice to have a non-adhd conversation on /x/.

>>18355573
you didn't read it? Because those who do, change their perspective on things. Kalergi is not a Jew. But god damn read his bio.

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This is a still of Oswald being taken away after Ruby shot him. I've seen a video of it, they handle him way rough, the guy just took a .38 round to the stomach, but they toss him around like a sack of potatoes. His arm drags on the ground as they roll him to a plain looking station wagon for transport.

>>18355575
>jews can't be quality ever and jewish ethnic crime is not existent cause muh holocaust

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The Three Well Dressed Tramps.

This guys were corralled by the cops in the train-yard behind the Grassy Knoll. They were known as The Three Well Dressed Tramps, guess at the time hoboes looked more hoboish? ANYWAY the weird thing is the cops took the tramps to the Dallas police station, then when the cops got there found out that "the killer" was already found -- Oswald. So the cops turned the three loose, the cops didn't even record their names!! Just shooed them off, potential witnesses at least, in the crime of the century and Dallas PD is all, whatever.

>>18355609
Info on the 3 tramps:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/3tramps.htm

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>>18355571
Inside Ruby's strip club

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>>18355623

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>>18355590
First JFK, then Oswald. Two major political killings caught on tape. Start of a new era. Now there are cameras fuckin' everywhere, people watch gore on Youtube while snacking. Back then it was shocking.

The fact Oswald was killed before he said anything of substance absolutely certifies that he was not alone.

There is no way the killing shot came from behind Kennedy. His head jerked back on impact, not as a result of muscle reaction after the shot.

If the shot came from the front then Oswald didn't kill Kennedy.

I believe the first 2 shots were from Oswald. The first shot misses, and the second goes through Kennedy's neck. The third shot, imo, came from the front.

There's also the fact that the dozen or so police officers who found Oswalds rifle claimed it was a german Mauser. It was stamped on the barrel. Many of the officers present were ex-military or gun enthusiasts. Yet, 24 hours later it was changed to Oswalds italian Carcano rifle.

There are even pictures of the police holding up and examining a rifle that was not Oswalds Carcano.

if you examine closely oswald's life, you will come to only one conclusion, he acted alone. his motivations are crystal clear he fits the description of lone nut through and through.

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>>18355787
It's weird the way the cops were all taking turns handling the rifle, passing it around, holding it for photographers. Shit, I know it was the 60s, but no one is thinking "Gee, that's evidence in the biggest crime in Dallas history, maybe we should like bag it? Maybe lock it up? Keep some kind of chain of custody records?" Very weird, no they treat it like a show and tell toy being passed around so everyone can get a good look at it.

Pic from: http://theweek.com/captured/456093/retracing-jfk-assassination

>>18355807
That's not the Mauser which was found at the School Book Depository.

>>18355817
It'd be nice if you provide a link or image or something, anything to back up your assertion. Share the info.

>>18355827
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNHtUDEDAI

First hit on google. I don't know if its any good but the Guy is Roger Craig, one of the police that found "the gun"

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>>18355787
But, but the photos of Oswald with the murder weapon!!

>>18355609
one of them was Howard Hughes, according to tinfoil lore

>>18355983
I don't know why, but the funniest fucking thing about that first article is that Jack Ruby still killed all 43 gunmen.

>>18355478
>'American Tabloid' is definitely a fun

Most plausible thing I've read about it. The series of books leading up to it are also great reads and close to real as it gets.

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Multiple shooters, killing blow was delivered by William Greer, the driver, who slows the vehicle to a crawl (when it's taking fire) turns around and shoots Kennedy with a 45 Pistol.

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aftermath inside the car

>>18355651
That's what gets me... you can watch JFK get his brains blown out on cable during a family sit down dinner. But people know not to tune in.

Put something bad on the internet, and suddenly people go nuts and think "well, nobody wants to see that!"

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>>18356720

Crack in car windscreen.

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>>18356855
Bullet hole in the car itself, never adequately explained.

Two sites about the damage to the car:

http://ss100x.com/
http://www.doewatch.com/jfk/iiiindex.html

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Weird facts about the autopsy:
http://gizmodo.com/reason-for-conspiracy-5-mysterious-details-from-jfks-1469465879

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JFK killed by SS agent in the car page:

http://listverse.com/2014/06/08/10-reasons-jfks-death-might-have-been-an-accident/

>>18355488
>Evidence of Revision
Great movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations#General_conclusions
>On the Kennedy assassination, the HSCA concluded in its 1979 report that:
>Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired at the President.
>The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.

Did Jackie Kennedy blame LBJ for death of JFK?

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/jackie-kennedy-blamed-lyndon-b-johnson-for-jfk-murder-127220093-237788131

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>>18356882
My personal thought on the autopsy: the Emergency Surgery done was botched as it was done by clowns in Dallas pretending to know more emergency procedures than they did and wanting to be in on this important event. Then they tried to do a quick tidy up and sort of autopsy. This was all made worse when the body got to Washington DC and The Powers That Be tried to make it look like a real autopsy by people that weren't morons was done to appease The Kennedy Family. End results the body was so messed up it ended up being impossible to tell what had happened with any certainty. More a Three Stooges fuck up than a Secret Autopsy Squad, end results the same though, muddied the evidence up so The Powers that be were all like, whatever.

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This is my favorite image from the whole mess, LBJ shares a wink with a member of his staff AS they stand next to Jackie in her blood soaked dress as LBJ is being sworn in as President inside Air Force One. JFK's body is a couple yards away, the plane is about to take off from Dallas.

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>>18356949
The smirk on LadyBird Johnson's face. They did it, she and her hubby at the top now.

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>>18357042

Plus look at these two, taking photos right there from a different angle. Their photos have been 'lost' to history.

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>>18357095

>>18357191
Mary Ann Moorman was a witness to the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy.

Moorman was interviewed by the Dallas County Sheriff's Department and the FBI. She was called by the Warren Commission to testify, but due to a sprained ankle, she was unable to be questioned. She was never contacted by them again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman

Think about that, called to testify about the assassination she begged off said her ankle hurt, Warren Commission was all, OK Fine. Never got back to her. She was standing a few yards away, with a camera in her hand.

>>18355651
One shot, one kill. Just look at this charging bull! Jacob Rubenstein was a murder machine. This was not the first time he killed a man.

>>18355426
Nah dude, he was shot in the neck!! The first shot caused him to slump toward jackie, who was asking what was wrong when his head exploded!

>>18357019
nice exploded head there

>>18357019
>dat ass
Also, the furrow on JFK's brow as he is fading from consciousness..
>dat last breath

>>18355651
>>18357314
Ive always loved that photo. Ruby hits him center mass, no fucking around. Guts exploded.
Ive always wondered though, is the trigger pulled yet? Is Oswald flinching because he knew it was coming, or is he hit yet?
Also the guy holding Oswald in the cream suit and hat. What is the face he is making? Acknowledgement? Preparing for the sound of an inevitable shot? Knowing that he was holding Oswald still for that very purpose?

God i love this whole thread

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>>18354775
I had a dream last night that I witnessed JFK getting shot
>today is th aniversery of his death
...anons...what does it mean

>>18357437
It means that your subconscious was aware of the fact that it's the anniversary.

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Pick your Poison.

didn't the podesta emails leaks say that Rafael Cruz killed JFK?

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>>18355548 So some guys away from the wives end up in one of the few strip clubs in 1963 Dallas. Imagine that.

Related -- here's Jack Ruby's top performer. Her name was Jada Conforto. She was apparently a bit of a wild one. Among other things, she was noted for driving around Dallas in her convertible, sipping from a bottle of champagne, while wearing nothing but a fur-coat she didn't bother to button up. A little light in the chest, but she was still a hottie.

>>18357718
Its at least 3, 4, or 5 of these at once. Between agencies, people, and groups all either turning a blind eye, destroying evidence, or physically pulling a trigger, almost everyone had a hand in this. Obviously because we still live in a world based on pre-kennedy systems of cloak and daggger, oil-rich, god fearing bullshit

>>18357979
That shits got to be from a movie

>>18357960
I would.

>>18357979
You know what would have been right behind that shooter? A parking lot filled with cars. Anyone walking back and forth to their car would have a very good chance of seeing a shooter. If you want to prove that a rifleman was behind the fence north of the Grassy Knoll, you should start with determining how the conspiracy controlled access in and out of that parking lot.

>>18358002
Agreed, although there is a "sticking your dick in crazy" aspect to consider.

>>18357718

the mob ones make the most sense to me especially if you read "I HEARD YOU PAINT HOUSES." Essentially a mob hitman corroborates events with famous mob hits he was apart of so I don't have a reason to doubt he wasn't lying about the JFK hit being a mob thing.

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The southeast edge of the Grassy Knoll, looking onto Elm street. On the other side of the pavilion is another fence-line. Zapruder was filming a little to the left of the two guys near the easle

I work in intel. Why do you guys always miss the most obvious focus?

Google: "Joseph Milteer." The truth is hiding in plain sight, according to sworn statements by Miami police, etc. Now I can't tell you the people who put these people to use. That's related to JFK's intel community meddling. Vaguely, he personally fucked our national security by botching Cuba toppling. Milteer's folks were put to use by people tasked with overseeing national security. Anything else is too revealing, SAP/SCI.

Seriously I don't get it. You won't find him talked about here, on the conspiracy subreddit, mentioned in major JFK stories. It's right fucking there, folks.

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>>18357718
>pic lists the mafia, CIA, LBJ and cuban exiles as suspects
>doesn't even mention the obvious Soviet connection with Oswald

>>18358144
>doesn't even mention the obvious Soviet connection with Oswald

then instead of just bitching post some links and info

>>18358108
Also, I should add: Using an actor who's motivated, hired by an actor who's motivated, diversifies anyone who can be investigated. The public thinks in too singular and reductionist in terms. JFK's assassination involved a few actors, but was pretty simple, as far as ops go. Just the public is woefully behind in complex/comprehensive puzzle solving.

And another unclassified bit of info: the secret service agents tasked with riding on the back of JFK's vehicle depart, by order, with one even throwing his arms up in confusion. Then Milteer's folks, who were hired down the line and not skilled / sniping experts, could have clear shots.

Look at the path of the vehicle. There were many opportunities like it, especially with open vehicles, but it was essentially a kill box.

Anyways: Intel community motivations, driven by national security --> Hiring of Milteer, who had ethnic, racial, and economic motivations --> Hiring of others, with fringe element, extremist motivations. The further down the line, the more the emotional desire, and overall drive and commitment to follow through. The structure is pretty simple.

Anyways. I wish I could get into the SAP/SCI stuff, because Kennedy didn't understand the office of the president, overused his personal power, and given Cuba, was really asking for it. Just research his involvement in the Bay of Pigs, and you'll begin to understand what an idiot he was capable of being. While he was skilled in some regards, he wasn't in others, but failed to see that to the detriment of the country's safety. This is why presidents have teams and advisors, and they don't go it alone. He let his emotions intrude on well-planned ops taking several years at a time to plan, sometimes ruining things in a matter of moments. >>18358108


Anyways, back to work.

Has anyone in this thread ever actually used a bolt action rifle while hunting/firing at a swiftly moving target?

>>18358159
Yes. It proves that Oswald could never have hit with more than one bullet.his service record indicated that he wasnt a very skilled marksman in the first place

>>18358167
I'm not so sure about that. Oswald was a life-long hunter (even when he lived in the Soviet Union). His marksmanship scores varied up and down while he was in the Corps. On the three-level scale of Expert, Sharpshooter, and Marksman (Expert is the best), Oswald scored Sharpshooter once and Marksman once. The latter test, where he scored lower, was when his service as a Marine was disintegrating into a mess all of his own making -- given his personality, he was probably in a full-blown pout..

TLDR -- Oswald was very familiar with firearms, received some good training, and was a mediocre shot only by Marine Corps standards.

>>18358167
300 yards with a pretty wide grouping? I'm not saying luck wouldn't have been a factor, but its not like he was knocking flies off a moose's ass.

>>18358194
Nowhere near 300 yards. The three ranges where Oswald shot at Kennedy were 176.9 feet, 190.8 feet, and 265.3 feet.

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And of course there's The Umbrella Man. Standing there with an umbrella over his head right where the shooting happened. It was a cool day, notice most people wearing heavy coats, but clear with no rain.

He says he was doing as a sign of protest, maybe he was. It's still very surreal.

>>18358208
Thats...a pretty basic series of shots.

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>>18358212

Some say The Umbrella Man was there to open the umbrella if it was ALL GO on the hit. Others say it's like a 007 spy umbrella that shot JFK.

No matter what it's just another bit of weirdness, LoveLady, the Three Tramps, Umbrella Man.

>>18358212
The Umbrella Man is named Louie Steven Witt. As of 2014, he was alive and still living in Dallas, Texas. He claimed to still own the umbrella in question. Mr. Witt was questioned multiple times by various authorities. He said the umbrella was a form of political protest/heckling -- comparing Mr. Kennedy to English Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. It was well into the 1970s when Mr. Witt finally found out that he was at the center of many a conspiracy theory.

>>18358218
And yet I keep reading that Oswald could never have made those shots. I've done better with a bolt action rifle and I'm not that good of a shot.

>>18358238
If he'd fired one shot and hit Kennedy in the head from 265ft while he was on the move it would be impressive. A series of shots starting at 60 meters, though...

>>18358249
It can be done, but it's apparently tricky. For example, CBS did a test where they had a 11 guys shoot at a moving target that replicated the movement of Kennedy's motorcade.

Results: "7 of 11 shooters were able to fire three rounds under 5.6 seconds (64%). Of those 7 shooters, 6 hit the orange target once (86%), and 5 hit the orange target twice (71%). Out of 60 rounds fired, 25 hit the orange (42%), 21 hit the blue portion of the target (35%), and there were 14 misses on the target (23%)."

Blue was a near miss. Orange was a hit.

See the "Ballistics Research Laboratory tests" section at wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_rifle

It was the jews.

>>18358189
>Oswald was a life-long hunter (even when he lived in the Soviet Union).
Marina stated that Oswald hadn't used a firearm since they'd returned to the US.
While in the Russian hunting club he'd used a shotgun, not a rifle.

>His marksmanship scores varied up and down while he was in the Corps.
In the late 1950s, US Marines were categorized at three levels of shooting ability, according to the scores they achieved at a standardized test of their accuracy:

Expert: a score of 220-250
Sharpshooter: 210-219
Marksman: 190-209

According to his Marine score card (Commission Exhibit 239), Oswald was tested twice:

1) In December 1956, after “a very intensive 3 weeks’ training period”, Oswald scored 212: two marks above the minimum for a ‘sharpshooter’.

2) In May 1959, he scored 191: one mark above the minimum for a ‘marksman’.

(I'd like to point out that the standards have since been raised, currently Oswald wouldn't even qualify.)

---
CONSIDER THIS...
>"Every time we changed the adjusting screws to move the crosshairs in the telescopic sight in one direction it also affected the movement of the impact or the point of impact in the other direction. … We fired several shots and found that the shots were not all landing in the same place, but were gradually moving away from the point of impact." ~ FBI’s firearms specialist who examined Oswald's rifle

For the benefit of the Warren Commission, expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds.

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Source: Warren Commission Hearings Report

>>18355590
>as they roll him to a plain looking station wagon for transport.

That's all ambulances were in those days, youngfag. Paramedics didn't become a thing until the 70s.

>>18358383
>Marina stated that Oswald hadn't used a firearm since they returned to the US.

Uh... an obvious lie by a scared wife?

>Stuff about Oswald's Marine marksmanship.

Yep, pretty much exactly what I said.

>The telescopic sight on Oswald's rifle.

Yes, the sight on the weapon was damage when found. Almost as if Oswald dropped or threw it before running. Or perhaps he adjusted his shooting to a bad sight with practice. Or perhaps he simply used the iron sights on the weapon. Or perhaps The Conspiracy trying to frame Oswald carefully placed a purposefully damage sight on the firearm they left in the building as evidence of his guilt because of.... of.... reasons.

>Stuff about the Army and FBI

I've read differently -- I'm not sure about the FBI, but as I understand it the Army marksmen apparently scored hits (see Bugliosi).. And even if -- as you say -- the Army and the FBI couldn't replicate Oswald's shots, some guys CBS lined up a few days before their test still managed to get results. Weird, huh?

>>18357019
Uhh but his head had exploded on the right side

>>18358438
>Yep, pretty much exactly what I said.
Not really, you stated "[Oswald] was a mediocre shot only by Marine Corps standards".

In May 1959, he scored 191: one mark above the minimum for a ‘marksman’. (the lowest classification)
(Again the standards have since been raised, currently Oswald wouldn't even qualify.)

This means Oswald was a barely passable shot.

>The CBS experiment
>The rifles were in good condition.
>The rifles were oiled and allowed to cool down between shooters.

The rifle Oswald used however was described (by the Warren Commission Report) as a "cheap old weapon".

According to the testimony of Ronald Simmons (again, to the Warren Commission)...
"There were several comments made — particularly with respect to the amount of effort required to open the bolt. … There was also comment made about the trigger pull … in the first stage the trigger is relatively free, and it suddenly required a greater pull to actually fire the weapon. … The pressure to open the bolt was so great that that we tended to move the rifle off the target."

Oswald was setup. We all know it. Sucks I hope someday the truth comes out. I think the Clintons took him out.

>>18358535
>>18358535

>Oswald's marksmanship

"Military experts, after examining his records, characterized his firearms proficiency as "above average" and said he was, when compared to American civilian males of his age, "an excellent shot" -- Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Chapter 4 1964, p. 191.

Oddly big range of opinions on this, isn't there?

>Modern Marine Corps ,marksmanship standards.

So what? As indicated above, experts reported that Oswald was a good shot.

>CBS Experiment's weapons

In fact, the CBS weapons had a fairly high jam rate. Also, I know of no particular evidence that Oswald's weapon was particularly poorly lubricated or maintained. And since Oswald fired three shots, dropped the weapon, and then ran... well, a cool down period for the weapon seems moot.

>Cheap old weapon

Very cheap indeed -- it was war surplus from a defeated Axis power that dumped its weapons on the market for fast cash. It was certainly not up to the standards of a professional like Simmons. However, at the time of the assassination, Oswald's weapon was 23 years old. I own perfectly functional bolt action rifles that are three or four mes that age.

In any event, repeated tests with Oswald's weapon showed that it was quite capable of chambering a cartridge, firing, and hitting a target at ranges consistent with the assassination. Some tests also show that it could fire three rounds within the time space suggested by the Warren commission. So President Kennedy wasn't killed with a shiny new weapon. That means nothing.

>Simmons report on the weapon.

Again, so what? Oswald apparently dry-fired his weapon constantly and there's evidence he did some shooting at ranges. Long story short: he adapted to his firearm. I've done similar with "stiff" weapons -- like the Mosin-Nagant.

Okay, that's all I have to say. Have a good night and I hope you and yours find that second gunman soon.

>>18356949
poor jackie ;_;

JOSEPH MILTEER, YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rawB5_fq6o

>>18358615
You arent addressing the speed of the shots. Thats the toughest part for other shooters to repeat. If oswald was a shooter with capabilites between the opinion that you and >>18358383 are claiming, it still seems a remote possibility he could have fired all 3 shots that quickly, AND hit 2/3, from the ranges previously specified.

>>18358155
>Joseph Milteer

pardon my ignorance,but what is SAP/SCI?

>>18357019
Wasn't this image used as part of Zack Snyder's promotional material for The Watchmen??

>>18359172
is that image a real image or fake?

looks like he's grinning a little, also where is the blood?

Should he not have blood running out of his nose etc.

I gotta say. that takes a great sniper shot to take on a moving target like that.

>>18357019
This was from a re-enactment.

>>18359104
An acronym for US Government classification.
Special Access Programs/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information.

>>18359847
thank you.


>Anyways. I wish I could get into the SAP/SCI stuff, because Kennedy didn't understand the office of the president, overused his personal power, and given Cuba, was really asking for it.

reading this makes me wonder if trump will have similar issues

>>18355586
>non-adhd conversation
>can't stay on topic

I wish I was JFK...

>>18354775
JFK Cosplay

Nobody mentioned Executive Order 11110


Debt free money

>>18360857
>Nobody mentioned Executive Order 11110

Then contribute, post a link or two, give your opinion, maybe a related image.