Monarch Mind Control General [altered states edition]

Here is a link to the editable google doc with TONS of additional info and resources - please check it out

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e58rw_uulApyqezyzZm8qmAkwRWfvCl7JZHkIgE2Ju4/edit

here is one more folder with assorted related PDFs - some are more conspiracy orientated but the vast majority have to do with mind control.

Those of you with dubious intentions (that is, you want to actually manipulate people, you madmen) I recommend the robert greene file called the art of seduction. have fun

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzfXaIsoAPVyM2xfMlBwb2F2bTQ

>>18326165
I love mind control and I sympathize with you OP. Anything to do with the brain i suppose, mind control, enhanced brain function, psisonics, anything like that. lurking!

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>>18326169
oops, this might have been the correct link, sorry
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e58rw_uulApyqezyzZm8qmAkwRWfvCl7JZHkIgE2Ju4/edit?usp=sharing

>>18326186
Thanks! Hopefully you find something cool here. I definitely recommend taking a look at the PDFs, some of them are rather interesting.

>>18326191
will do OP! thank you.

anybody who is interested in cathy o brien - know I have been reprimanded on this thread for not mentioning her trance-formation of america, I might have some information you were not aware of

"Cathy O'Brien and her handler Mark Phillips have apparently kidnapped a young girl named Shaela Miller and are mind controlling her."
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2931364/pg1

this was a thread made awhile ago, but the actual family of the young lady living with those two actually did make an apearance to talk about their daughter being kidnapped by those two.

I think what happened to cathy might have been real, but I think there is something very very sketchy about mark.

>>18326187
From that google doc, this link

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream by David McGowan
http://netteandme.blogspot.com/2015/04/part-1-of-20-strange-but-mostly-true.html

doesn't seem to work. Can someone check if that's the case, or is it just me? And is there any other easy way to read that book?

>>18327320
>Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream by David McGowan

I'm not the one who added that link, it looks like a harder book to get online as a pdf. I might have found it however, or something similar:

http://www.conspirazzi.com/e-books/inside-the-lc.pdf

>>18326757
I honestly think it's disinfo against them because they talk about such sensitive information. Of course, the topic of disinfo is a very delicate subject, because even bringing it up might be a diversion tactic or proof that one oneself is brainwashed -- however, the information in Trance-Formation of America is so injurious to the elite that I would be surprised if people DIDN'T try to smear them. You can also find on the internet that William Cooper was a violent alcoholic and that Fritz Springmeier is a white supremacist armed bank robber who had sex with the girl Cisco Wheeler he was supposed to be deprogramming. It's just smear stuff to make it harder for you to know what to believe.

I mean, if you read this shit against Springmeier, and you've read Springmeier, unless you're a Buddhist monk it's hard not to get infuriated at the sheer idiocy of it: http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier1.htm

Anyway, reading what you've posted, it seems like disinfo to me. Expert disinformation and smear tactics. Look how those gullible shitheads in that thread lap it up, too, totally uncritically, thinking THEY'RE the cynical ones. Yuck.

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>>18328890
It pains me to see what they did to the memory of William Cooper.

Did we found out what happened to Max Spier?

>>18328890
Well I don't know if you've read the accounts of other mind control authors like Brice Taylor (Thanks for the Memories) but she meets Mark who totally misleads her, she writes about it in her book, basically pressures her into meeting with him and then tells her that nothing she remembered ever happened to her. Totally fucks with her head. And Brice isn't the only lady who had that experience with Mark in the exact same context.

Maybe you're just the kind of person who swallows everything without a second thought. I mean look at Cathy in those videos. You don't think Mark is her handler? That lady doesn't look like she has a free cell in her brain. She's totally taking cues from him constantly.

pertaining to mark...
I really think he's sketchy, if you don't you haven't looked into him enough
http://www.rense.com/general2/phil.htm

fritz is something different

>>18328890
Can you tell me anything more about this stuff?
Just anything in general.

I don't know where to start with it besides MK Ultra.
Everytime this topic is brought up on this board the thread turns to shit because of total nutcases who believe everything they read.

I don't really care about Illuminati bullshit, just honestly interested in brainwashing programs and techniques.

>>18328890
>William Cooper was a violent alcoholic and that Fritz Springmeier is a white supremacist armed bank robber

To paraphrase Bill Cooper, even if this is all true, does that change the reality of the things he revealed? The important bit is to listen to everybody and believe nobody unless you can research and prove things for yourself.

I heard they use low low frequencies to manipulate your emotions remotely. This combined with stalking the target and manipulating events and occurrences towards the parameters of the program goal by using your online info to create a profile and customizable brainwash to achieve whatever else is needed to push you into madness and to exhibit the irrational programmable behavior required, aka
=Mindless assassin Manchurian candidate style.

Whos this cathy and max everyone is talking about?

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>>18330483
Max Spiers was a british researcher that died under mysterious circumstances in Poland, when he went to give a conference on monarch and related stuff, look it up.

>>18330451
No, I don't think any of that would change the reality of what Fritz, specifically, revealed.

But if Mark is Cathy's mind control handler, and if he specifically went out of his way to mess with the minds of other victims of this abuse and "shut them down" - that WOULD be relevant against the things he'd written about.

>>18330483
Mark and Cathy O Brien wrote "Trance Formation of America", which are considered very important MK Ultra exposes

>>18330423
I would check out this article - "how to change minds and manipulate people"
https://cybercosmopolitan.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/how-to-change-minds-and-manipulate-people/

I do also recommend taking a look at this thread because some of the information in there is really excellent.
http://bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/10/machine-illuminati-handling

There is a lot of misinformation out there about mind control, but at its basic premise, it is just psychology utilized for unethical ends - it doesn't look so fantastical or conspiratorial when you see it that way.

To understand how mind control is put to work in a person-to-person context, there are a few things at work that you should have knowledge of.
-the effect of environment: for example, total institutionalization and isolation
-the effect of others; we are social creatures, and if the people around us are acting a certain way, we look to them for cues to understand the context of our situations
-interrogation techniques; you can look this up almost anywhere, and it is used in application with MK Ultra
-techniques in hypnosis; stuff like Erick Erikson's trance investigations are extremely pertinent.

This is the way that one single person might be manipulated for a special end. For example, celebrities or sleepers. Normal people are unlikely to ever encounter these methods.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMH5WgGFxlc

here's a real doozy for you boys

also a reminder that there were other programs in MK series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKOFTEN

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Yeah, I hinestly hate this shit. I wish I never got involved with it. It freaks me the hell out and it makes it difficult to function. You have no idea some of the shit I have seen and experienced. I don't think anyone would ever believe me. I would erase it all from my brain if I could. It's the absolute worst. Be cery very careful with how deep down the rabbit hole you go with this. Take it from someone who learned the hard way.

I wrote an article about WestWorld and its mk ultra themes recently , some of you may find it interesting.

https://cybercosmopolitan.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/westworld-ties-with-mk-ultra/

https://archive.org/stream/TranceformationOfAmerica/tranceformation_america_djvu.txt

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>>18332441
tfw you realise we live in a dystopia

>>18332441
Stop being cryptic you hole, what's the story dude

>>18334652
Well Trump did manage to get elected, and considering that Hillary was the Illuminati's candidate, that should restore your faith a bit in the system - nobody saw that coming.

>>18332441

You are what you intend yourself to be.

No more, no less.

The perspective of others will never change that.

>>18335185
Ah. A good point. It is worthwhile to think about how much of our experience and our reality we manifest for ourselves. And not in a "the secret" sense of that idea - our worlds are to some extent a product of our obsessions, our interpretations, and our minds. If we need to have faith in our own interpretations, that act of faith is perhaps not an inconsequential act.

>>18335193

Correct, you are the only God you will ever know.

Do not allow your willpower to be subverted, because you are the only one who can allow it.

Appreciate your reality, and your perspective. Because it IS yours.

rollpalyers aside, masonry/monarchy has to do with snapping people to personalities in order to build an ant colony style company.

these personalities are related to animals, foods, sounds, it's building networks of things so that saying one will activate all the others, and make the person start behaving with thepersonality you want. (think play boy bunnies)

is mind control and demonic possession related to each other? the Book of Revelation does speak of a massive worldwide delusion in the end times

>>18335279
Ever noticed the relationship between the word alter and altar? It's not accidental "spelling"

>>18335328
Yes. What do you think a natural ability to channel spirits really is? It's the ability to dissociate. DID. Did you know there is a major relationship between psychic ability and childhood trauma? Some say that the psychic ability is genetic, and that it is why the Illuminati is so obsessed with bloodlines. There is a major emphasis on occult power.

Ritual is the oldest form of mind control in the world. Altered states of consciousness are the practice of illusion. At its essence, this is what mind control is. It's the control of perception, the induction of deception. An egregore, a morphogenetic field- whatever you want to call it. Magick is really a matter of mind control, because everything that is really exists within our mind.

>>18335328
To expand on that- what is the state of being possessed by an entity? It is channeling. How does channeling differ from being a split personality? Only nominally. Somebody with the ability to channel entities is fragmented by definition. Who is to say that alternate personalities are truly different from being inhabited by "spirits"?

Schizophrenia is now known to be different then multiple personalities/ DID, but for many decades people mistook them for the same thing. There was a period of time that the schizo was referred to as a split personality or alter. At the same time, we have experts in trance - shaman - who see our mental hospitals as homes for the demonically tortured. What if the difference between a problem with demons and a problem with insanity was only one of cultural definition/perception?

What if the "illuminati" - like the eastern sages and shaman - were aware of how to properly handle and channel these occult forces? Being receptive to psychic powers and being vulnerable to insanity are two sides of the same coin.

"The mystic swims in waters the schizophrenic drowns in"

>>18335227
Thank you anon. I believe that I needed to hear that.

>>18335111
The story is a long story. I experienced a lot of what has been written. I will never know for sure how real my experiences are, because there is nobody aside of myself that would be willing to testify about them. If they were not the product of hallucination, then they must have been real. If they were the product of hallucination, I am surely insane.

How do I reconcile these disparate pictures of reality? Even if I am totally brutally honest with myself, the uncertainty remains. I am left with the question: is it better to seek the truth at the peril of my own sanity? Or to shut down the book on my questions and tell myself what might be a lie?

It is a mortal, spiritual torture either way.

To talk about masonry a bit; consider the implications of architecture. I call it architectonics. It's the way that physical structure influences what is internal, in this case the mind. There is a function to be held by those ancient and powerful symbols you see used in affiliation with the Illuminati and associated secret societies. Some of you have argued that these symbols are used in pop culture purely for their power to fascinate intruige and engender speculation.

I'd ask you to consider that possibility more closely. Could it be that symbolic archetypes have a sort of magnetism? You all on 4chan speak rather jokingly about the power of memetic engineering, but perhaps their are some of you out there that realize the ability to implant symbols in the sleeping consciousness of the collective is actually not a joke, but a real means of influence. Perhaps most of you are staunch materialists as I once was, but if you keep at your digging you are inevitibly to discover that all forms are the shadow of immaterial archetypes and perceptively constructed by the senses - that IS our reality.

Thus mind control is the only form of control which counts for anything.

>>18335279

i think masons trace themselves back into ancient times to the original builders of civilization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSU8lS4z_8k

>>18335488

terrece mckenna had a good lecture on shamanism. the shaman is the one who sees order in the chaos of the altered state of conscious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsg0PqWTGek

>>18335279
What you are referring to has a name that is used more generally - "the hive mind". Often what people believe to be a form of "stalking" would be better described as "synchronicity" - but all of this implies that you can conceive of a layer of reality which intrudes upon common dimensional divisors such as space and time. You could call these factors intercessors. The more you notice them, the more they are likely to appear. Whether or not you allot them any significance in your personal scheme of reality is your own prerogative, but many occultists count on them for ritual and many schizophrenics lose their minds when they allow these thematic trends to fall out of context with reality.

It is hard to live your life with the general milieu straddling two worlds. But, to be fair, we are all prone to hypnogagically act out the psychodrama of the hive mind or collective. In another sense you could say memetic engineers capitalize on speaking the lost language of the collective, symbols or - memes. If you can recognize these trends in their embedded unconscious state, you can work a form of "magick" that is really a form of mind control on the archetypal level. I recommend Jung.

The reason celebrities are valuable to the Illuminati is that they are what yoy might call "psychic vampires". What trait defines the psychic vampire? A shitload of charisma. That "je ne sais quoi" that engenders worship and pure idiocy and star struck lunacy - that is a siphooning of a particular and powerful form of energy: attention.

"Energy goes where attention flows"

So why control the celebrities? This is a massive harvesting of energy, the energy of what people are looking at.

"He who controls the media controls the mind"

>>18330423
This guy >>18330423 who responded to you is not me, the guy >>18328890

Hm well unfortunately the most detailed researcher to date I've come across on mind control, Fritz Springmeier, inextricably writes about the Illuminati while writing about this too. If you have a open enough mind, I suggest you read him, you can find the text of his books for free on the internet and print them out (wasting a shitton of paper and ink in the process) if you want, unless you wanna hurt your eyes reading them on the internet or buy unlicensed and poor-quality copies of them on Amazon. Gotta make some sacrifices to be a dedicated researcher on this.

Programmed to Kill by Dave McGowan is great. Operation Mind Control by Walter Bowart, which I'm reading now and admittedly haven't finished, seems to be pretty great as well.

You could also literally search at your libraries for books on mind control and the history of mind control and get the books on inter-library loan, which is what I did when I was beginner to this. However, you probably won't get very explosive and controversial books with very sensitive info in your public libraries, although you could still do something with it, at least. Good luck, really. It's a time consuming process, dedicating yourself to studying this.

>>18335828
Honestly there is a LOT more available online then you will ever find at a library, a public library is almost NEVER going to carry this kind of material - even my university library at a huge and major uni had next to nothing about it. It's hard to read online but there is a treasure trove of pdfs out there and if you can't stand online reading it might be worth your while to by a printed copy from amazon, I got a decent copy of Fritz's book that way.

we have to combine this with pizzagate. basically one thread to beat the ctr shills

>>18337243
Imagine your own death

>>18337254
I've thought about it many times
Sometimes wished for it

Here is Thanks for the Memories

https://archive.org/details/BriceTaylorThanksForTheMemoriesWITHPICTURESLARGEFONT

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>>18337312
Sorry, but this really only applies to beings with souls of their own

Thou spend entire days repeating the thoughts of other on this website, so incessantly that they become thy own

If thou wish to be rid of the softness of human flesh, then perhaps it is for the best that thou frail body be dashed upon the rocks....

tee hee

>>18338179
>Thou spend entire days repeating the thoughts of other on this website, so incessantly that they become thy own
How would you know this is true of anybody? How do we know it's not true of you? Why would you speak about something you know nothing about? Foolish and stupid.

>>18338219
It IS true of me! Behold! My ugliness

>>18338223
>It IS true of me
you and most of the internet-age human race, we are all online most of the time, and arguably almost all part cyborg. It's just the way the world works now, and there's no going backwards. Nothing is worse about the cyborgs who spend time on 4chan compared to the ones on twitter and facebook. We're all equally shit.

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>>18338356
Look just because I empathized with you doesn't mean that you've been elevated in any sense

You couldn't even get the dust off my shoes, knave

>>18338360
>You couldn't even get the dust off my shoes, knave
you're just some anon on 4chan. get over yourself.

>>18338373
my presteige or lack thereof does not change the fact that you lack the skill and understanding to properly and effectively clean a shoe

>>18338376
>the fact that you lack the skill and understanding to properly and effectively clean a shoe
you can't factually state anything about somebody you don't know. durr.

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>>18338397
and yet I know the truth

must be synchronicithy

>>18338406
>and yet I know the truth
it's easy to say you know stuff, especially on the internet where nobody will hold you accountable for it, doubly so on an imageboard where name has no meaning, and we are all more or less anonymous. If all you have is a claim to know something, you might as well be saying less than nothing. If you really know something worth knowing, say it, or be lost and forgotten like the rest of the dreg.

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>>18338433
oh my god, so you haven't been paying attention at all this whole time?
You were waiting for me to address you directly opr what?

>>18338443
Your trolling aptitude is okay, but I've seen better. Go ahead, address me directly. I don't think you could if you wanted to.

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>>18338467
Thou art no one, thou has no soul to call thy own
and so you usurp the places of other souls

>>18338476
You are merely cold reading generalities that you would use to describe anybody you met on this site because those are things that you obviously believe about nearly everybody (save yourself, possibly).

Anyway. To anti-derail if at all possible.
https://decryptedmatrix.com/pdf-mastervault/

I think in regards to that other thread asking abouy whether obsession with mind control is a sort of mind control, I think yes. I also think reading stuff like Fritz Sprongmeier can mess up your brain.

here is a ted talk called "the art of misdirection"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZGY0wPAnus
absolutely brilliant watch about how perception and attention control what we believe is true

>>18338476
>>18338376
>>18338179
as humans we have the unique ability to choose to believe something, not because we know whether or not it is objectively true, but because believing in it serves some kind of functional psychological purpose. Best case scenario is becoming aware of the underpinnings of your individual existential imperatives so you can remain lucid to yourself.

But most of us sublimate these 'faith imperatives' and convince ourselves we are immune to them. for example, maybe you actively reject the notion of a god, but are unaware that your 'faith' has been transferred from religion to politics, or to hedonism, sex, or consumerism. capitalizing off of sublimated needs is an easy way to control people. a cult conscious of its own practical purpose and actively aware of its mentalism is not necessarily a harmful thing”

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>>18337039
Yeah, I agree with this. That guy seemed skeptical though, so I just wanted to point out that you CAN read about about mind control at public libraries and get information about it. Some. But pretty much I get a lot from pdfs of books on the internet which I can't find at libraries. Libraries are useful for beginners because they might make you feel less insane, like you're reading something more mainstream.

Strangest thing though --- I got a copy of James Shelby Downard's The Carnivals of Life and Death through Inter-Library Loan, a very far-out book. You never know.

>>18339975
For the skeptics, I think I would refer them to the basis of thought control in fundemental psychology. A lot of the best material is the *least* sensationalized. A good grasp of fundementals in psychology is necessary to gain a comprehensive understanding of how this stuff works. That means slogging through some technical and scholarly works

>>18338406
does anyone else see something smiling?

>>18340276
pretty sure it's supposed to look like a smiling face.

>>18340283
please dont mess with me youre gonna make me go get my meds

>>18340347
Take them

>>18340178
>>18339975
To expand on this -
I would highly recommend some books on cult conditioning. The way that cults are able to convince people to do things as extreme as murder people and their babies (ie the manson families) or commit mass suicide (jonestown massacre) is an incredible study on mind control in and of itself. Anybody who says that mind control "doesn't exist" needs to look at what cults are able to do and consider that if mind control didn't exist, there is no way people would be able to be radicalized to that extent.

The study of cult conditioning is asking the question, how can people be changed so much and so far outside their nature? If you look into cults you'll see that it's more then that people are made to do insane things, their entire identities begin to become reliant on the cult's values. Once they get out the cult even they are prone to feel the draw to go back. This is a very, very powerful principle that cults are tapped into. And guess what? The CIA studied it....I wonder why?

Cults are a pretty good example of mind control, which is I think why theories like the illuminati prevail so starkly. Whether the illuminati is actually a cult in that sense is arguable, but it is supposedly something you are born into. I only know of two supposed illuminati programmers- svali and jos - they are both very different in what they say is true about mind control, so... There is that

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why are they allowed to talk about montauk secrets / Philadelphia experiments?

>>18342239
either
1) because nobody would believe them if it was true, and if it was true nobody would expect it to be out int he open, or because the truth was so absurd and ridiculous that it could be plainly stated on the new york times and would still be discounted as false
or
2) because the information they are sharing, whether it is or is not genuinely expressed, is promoting misinfo

the next question being, how would you know the difference? it's incredibly tricky. but I do believe it's possible to make some strides.

I think the nasty part of mind control is that it is perpetuated by trauma first and foremost. That is the mechanism by which people are used and controlled by others. There has to be a degree of fear involved. A degree of love two, but I think the particularly insidious part of mind control is that signals for fear and love become intertwined and intermixed.

Is there a reason that the demonic and satanic and abusive are always confused with mind control and the illuminati and child abuse? is the illuminati and satanic ritual abuse a way for people who had devastating things happen to them as children find a way of generating meaningfulness and closure?

I am not yet certain I can say for sure, but I can understand both sides of the argument.

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>>18335543
Reality for everyone is subject to perception. What do you define as real? Are your thoughts 'real'? Are your feelings 'real'? Surely you consider sensory perception as real. All of these phenomena are a product of mental processing. All of reality is 'mental' in this respect. This is whats 'real'. Anything outside of the bounds of perception may as well not exist, because it cant be experienced. 'Real' is what can be experienced.

>>18326165
Mind control is mych more simple when you use Josey Delgados work and combine it with Transcranial electromagnetic stimulation. TMS

lol. This entire thread is either filled with roleplayers or disinfo. You REALLY think if this shit was real they'd allow this post to stay up?

lmfao.

>>18343830
>you really think if this shit was real they'd allow this post to stay up?
Of course they would. First of all, this nebulous "they" you refer to doesn't have full agency over all content on the internet. The most potent and effective means of information control is not complete censorship. It's actually a lot more simple - there is such a glut of information out there and so much of it is blatantly fallacious that if there is truth, it doesn't matter. It gets lost in the millions of terabytes of shit and gets no exposure.

The only way this information could be threatening to the nefarious "they" you speak of would be if it were to recieve mainstream or credible coverage in a high exposure place with a lot of societal authority. Because the media is basically monopolized that'll never happen. A conspiracy subforum of an inage board, whether it has truth or lies on it, threatens literally nobody. In fact if "they" took it down, they'd only be making it look more credible.

Of course true sensitive information can be found on the internet. It can even be found in normal libraries and bookstores, but of it's not given attention it may as well not exist. True information control involves subtelty. Only a fool would believe "they" would simply excise anything that was true.

>>18343229
That is why mind control is the ultimate form of control
And control of our own minds is the ultimate form of mastery, for it is the control of reality itself
This is what some on this subboard call "magick" etc

>>18343259
What have you heard aboit TMS that makes you so worried? I doubt we know enough about the brain to use it properly but I am open to possibilities

Isn't it interesting how little real information there actually is about this subject? That alone should make people think. Consider this: psychology is the study of the mind. What makes people tick. But you don't often read about how to use psychology to control others. Why? Because it would be unethical to study and write about. Do you guys think that means that nobody has done the studies? That nobody has tried to take advantage of the potential use? That human nature wouldn't succumb to the greed of wanting to control others? That seems more unrealistic then anything else to me.

So then here's the question: if the science of controlling others is real - and it is, because we've seen it done in a naturalistic setting, for example with cults - isn't it important to understand it, so that it can be defended against? and how are you supposed to understand something that nobody truly believes exists?

The fact is, the keys to understanding "behavioral manipulation" are not buried in top secret documents somewhere in a fault. There's buried in technical jargon and obscurity. It's not the information isn't out there, it's that people are not insightful or perceptive enough to put the pieces together which are already available to them. People are distracted and lazy and they don't necessarily learn relevant or important information.

>>18344500
Truth

https://8ch.pl/baphomet/res/44.html#370

Just so you know NSA is behind this and it's called Experiment X.

http://www.mindcontrol.se/?page_id=6776

>>18335181
the Architect let Neo be The One

consider that

>>18346120
>What makes people tick. But you don't often read about how to use psychology to control others. Why? Because it would be unethical to study and write about.
What are you talking about? There's a multitude of studies done on hypnotism, deception, human biases waiting to be exploited. Most of them come with a preface like Schopenhauer's "The Art of Being Right" - they're meant to be used as safeguards against the techniques they describe. You don't even need to dig deep, it's all on LibGen or Wikipedia. The key is your last sentence, though:
>People are distracted and lazy and they don't necessarily learn relevant or important information.

>>18350311

The Architect was a lying bullshit artist who didn't craft shit except parlor tricks to dupe morons

consider that

>>18350365
Rarely are the studies about controlling others named explicitly as such, however.