Occultism & Magick: Appropriating /sum/ edition?

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>>18313552
You're doing god's work Ape ol' chap.

>>18313653
>2008+8
>not having the simplest protection from shitposter magik

>>18313615
I kind of miss the /sum/ threads besides all the bullshittery and succubus stuff. Or what demon do I summon to shoot fireballs out of my hand.

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frustrated Illuminati bloodliner witchling here

is there seriously no one in it who posts on 4chan?

anyone in secret societies have advice to offer, thought about going OTO or Order of the Eastern Star but I'm worried of blood oaths and covenants

praise Keket, hail Asherah-Freya

>>18313693
Yeah here's my advice:

You're a fucking retard. Rot in hell until you decide to change your ways. Continue being edgy. You'll realize what hell actually is sooner or later.
Seriously though, out of respect, change your ways.

>>18313693
>Hail Azhterah
That's a start at least.

Phrase your question in the form of a non-shitpost and I'll give you some advice. If you're seriously worried about blood oaths I can tell you straight up that the OTO is not for you, nor is A.'.A.'.

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the final frontier

>>18313700
>manlet can't even yank a child.
u srs

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>>18313696

>You're a fucking retard
thank you :3

i'm just young and stupid, idgaf about keeping the loominaughty secret

>>18313698
I've been targeted

my exes all hate me, I'm a Babalon, been involved in unwilling workings

just looking for assurances and protection

I'm safe where I'm at now but I honestly just would like guidance

I have Freemasonic lineage and they served the big G and I'm into that, just want to be sure the riding the goat nonsense isn't a Satanic ploy

I loathe Satanic witches

>>18313552
/sum/'s pastebin revitalized.

>>18313721
Keeping the illuminati secret isn't my point, idiot.

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>>18313724
Fuck:
http://pastebin.com/v6qsewmw

>>18313721
Fuck off.

> Drunvalo Melchizedek - The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life

Saw that title in the Various folder. You recommend reading this, Ape? Any thoughts on the guy? This seems a bit new-agey to be in your library.

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>>18313728
do you know me? serious question

I'm quite happy where I'm at spiritually, thank you very much

I've had a lot of experiences, even received a vision from what I believe was Yahweh, whatever the Masons agree on worshiping anyways, it was a big capital golden G

I'm just afraid of going higher level desu, like pic related

I'd rather be a simple cunning woman offering my white magic to those in need

>>18313731
>Fuck off.

okay?

can I ask why?

I've seen you around before and you seem so cool, desu I'm sad that you're angry.

Where's a good place to start with all of this? There's a ton of stuff in that mega.

>>18313755
Beginner's Folder - Prometheus Rising.

>>18313751
>Phrase your question in the form of a non-shitpost

If you wanna make shit up and have some fun, /qst/ is right around the corner.

Calcidius on demons (Commentarius Ch. 127-136) by J. Den Boeft
https://a.pomf.cat/cvqwpq.pdf

"A scholarly translation of the treatise on demonology by Calcidius, an important figure in the Neoplatonic philosophical movement of Roman times. Some background in philosophy required."

As promised, straight from Brill. Again, thanks for linking it, Ape.

>>18313789
hhhng.

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>>18313788
I'm not making any of this up

I'm glad this thread will be archived hopefully

Suicidechan was here and asking 4chan for advice and as usual it fails her

even my beloved /x/

>>18313664
Sorry anon i was scared, i'm a pussy ;_;

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>>18313811
Bump.
What the helli is that infernal racket?
Do we need to burn some smudge in here or what?!

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Any info on animal magick? Anything to do with both real and spiritual animals? Familiars, totems, spirit guardians, companions, etc.?

In the last thread ape and satyr (I think) were telling me I need to work on my asana before focusing on dharana practice because you can't keep a mind steady when the body isn't. My concentration usually slackens after about 20-30 minutes. I'd attributed it to lack of mental stamina and having begun by sitting for 15 minutes every day and working my way up. I realized today though that my back and core muscles were getting a bit tired and I was shaking/vibrating just a bit in the second half hour, and I'm thinking that may play a role in my concentration lapsing. Any advice on remedying this would be appreciated. Would good core exercises help here? I do crunches and bridges pretty regularly, occasionally low squats and leg lifts. Or is this more of a keep practicing and it fixes itself thing

>>18313789
Fuck yeah, thanks bud

>>18313552
Anyone have any insights or better still, good sources on (what seem to a dilletante at least) to be considerable similarities between elements of kabbalah and mystical islam? I know a lot of kabbalists were educated and living in the islamic world, is it a fair bet that they'd read farabi? Do we have grounds to believe that merkavah and zakhor practices influenced muraqabah and dhikr? Also interested in seeming similarity between Adam qadmon and al-insan al-kamil

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>>18314112
We wroship the doggo as a profound and unfiltered expression of God's deepest and most convoluted emotions,
so oblique are they that the dongo speaketh not one word of truth (nor anyting else)

>>18313552
Appropriate picture, Ape.

today magic was proven by Trump winning
in gonna troll /sci/ real hard

>>18313552
Someone should take a Trump sigil we can masturbate to. I'll "add my energy" if anyone wants to do that.

>>18314311
And this post is how I got wind of it

>>18314311
>>18314341
Speculation, The President is a human Incarnation of the tower Trump. Perhaps when he gave his name to the tower, The Tower had power over him.

Well seth, you believe in meme magic now?

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>>18314444

>>18314444
Now I do. Great get, my friend.

Trumpdubs get. An era of meme magic approaches us.

>>18314438
Updated speculation: America has been possessed by the spirit of the tower trump since 911, Trump is merely it's embodiment

>>18313731
Nice pastebin.

I wonder if A.M.S. was actually legit. Supposedly he lost faith in his practice and just stopped. Though I think he obviously saw some merit in Goetia considering his conversations with the spirits.

>>18314311
B-but majickk doesn't real!

>>18314444
Meme magic is a shadow of my own will being exerted over reality

>>18314911
>911
>help
>need trips

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bump

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>>18313696
>what hell actually is

are you that annoying christfag that won't leave? goddamnit your religion is out there and therefore somewhat paranormal, but you must realize you're not converting anyone to your outdated, oxymoronic religion.

now leave us alone so we can get back to jacking off to succubi.

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Hara hara Mahadev!

Im back again, nice to see /OMG/ back in buissness.

>>18313811
how you been senpai?

>>18314273
id disagree with ape and satyr, asana practice goes right along dharana. Pick an asana, and meditate. as you practice that asana you will practice dharana at the same time. Thing is - dont switch between asanas, pick one and master it. Exercises are not need, the body is not really needed. its merely a vessel for your mind.


Jai Jai Maa!

>>18315202

Hey aghori,

I want to start practicing pranayama; particularly "anuloma viloma"/alternate nostril breathing

What do you think of Liber e's instructions? It's under "pranayama":


http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/lib9.htm#4

If successful, then there's another liber for a more advanced practice, under 5., "second practice - pranayama"


http://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib206.html


In the Sivananda Companion to Yoga, it's recommended to practice in a ratio of 2:8:4 (inhale, hold, exhale)
using the Vishnu mudra.


http://selfdefinition.org/yoga/Lucy%20Lidell%20-%20The%20Sivananda%20Companion%20to%20Yoga.pdf

(page 72/73, under the chapter "Breathing")


I want to use the liber's instructions along with the vishnu mudra to practice the anuloma viloma. Can I practice this excerice on its own without encountering imbalance,
or do you need to combine the anuloma viloma with other pranayama excercises to avoid any imbalance?

Should I follow the 2:8:4 ratio, or is what is outlined in liber e and RV vel spiritus OK?
Is there any particular hand position that you would recommend when practicing the anuloma viloma?

Thank-you.

>>18315202
Good to see you, what are you up to these days?

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>>18315695
Hara Hara Mahadev!

I think its great to start the practice, and the explanations in Liber E seem fine, although the Sivananda ratios fit better imho, but this is purely subjective. try both and see what works. What i dont like about the method described in Liber E is it seems like pranayama is treated like a practice in its own right. The sweat described in the second link is simply your prana becoming so locked in manipura chakra that youre essentially cooking up. It will lead to imbalance if practiced as a hard regimen without other ways of mediating this prna to other parts. Simply implement it into some meditation and asana, and youre set. Use the pranayama as a means to clear out your nadis, almost like an "astral detox", before other practices. This will greatly help your practice. additionaly id highly listen to the tip about not eating before it, over all having an empty stomach is helpfull to dharana, asana and all other practices. Usually before beginning a cycle of [ractice i take a few day break from eating as a whole and supply my body with clean water, and during practice avoid meat unless needed in particular rituals.

hope i helped

Jai Jai Tara Maa!

>>18315735
Hara Hara Mahadev!

as much as i hate to say it, ive been lost in samsara to the deepest degree for almost a month, prior to which i was practicing. Some of the things i experienced broke me. Now im going through purification and focusing on practice once more. there is no life aside from the dharma.

>>18313552
where is AMS?

>>18315742
>although the Sivananda ratios fit better imho, but this is purely subjective. try both and see what works.

I'll use the 2:8:4 ratio first, maybe experiment with liber e later.

>What i dont like about the method described in Liber E is it seems like pranayama is treated like a practice in its own right.

I agree. I was originally doing this "kundalini meditation" which included specific pranayama exercises along with bija mantras. I found the LRP/middle pillar routine to fit my goals a little better, so I started using them. Without these pranayama exercises it does not feel the same at all. I want to start with the anuloma viloma at least.

>The sweat described in the second link is simply your prana becoming so locked in manipura chakra that youre essentially cooking up. It will lead to imbalance if practiced as a hard regimen without other ways of mediating this prna to other parts. Simply implement it into some meditation and asana, and youre set.

Oh my. So doing this strictly on its own is not a good idea. So I'll do this before I take up my afternoon LRP/middle pillar.

>additionaly id highly listen to the tip about not eating before it, over all having an empty stomach is helpfull to dharana, asana and all other practices.

I agree; I usually eat breakfast after meditation. Usually a small lunch after doing the afternoon LRP/MP.


Thank-you; your advice was helpful!


.

>>18315800
He quit and claimed all his experiences were easily explainable through mundane means.

>>18315754
Well I'm pulling for you

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Friendly bump.

>>18313731

Just wondering, why does the ink in the Pastebin to Peterson's version of the Lesser Key point to an empty WordPress site called ShadowTech.nl?

Yo Ape, I'm that Muslim guy from /his/ asking about Sufi Islam a long time ago. Just checked the library looking for Pythagorean stuff but didn't see it, but I DID see the Islam folder! Way to go. I'm trying to find out more about Freemasonry without actually going through the Freemasonry folder, since I'm planning on petitioning to join my local lodge soon and I was suggested to research Pythagoras.

Apparitions
By G.N.M. Tyrrell
https://a.pomf.cat/zewdao.pdf
"The standard work on the subject, this book sums up decades of work under the auspices of the Society for Psychical Research."

A Rumor of Angels: Modern Society and the Rediscovery of the Supernatural
By Peter L. Berger
https://a.pomf.cat/azdmov.pdf
"Berger's earlier sociological study of religion, The Sacred Canopy, is often quoted by those trying to define the spiritual out of existence by classifying it as a wholly cultural construct. This book, which sets out to undercut that project and does a good job of pointing out the flaws in rationalist approaches to the subject, is rarely mentioned but well worth reading."

>>18313653
Fuck you

I wanna worship Hecate, any recommended books on Hecatean liturgy?

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>>18317231

The Goddess Hekate by Stephen Ronan

Hekate in Ancient Greek Religion by Ilmo Robert Von Rudloff

The Rotting Goddess: The Origin of the Witch in Classical Antiquity by Jacob Rabinowitz

Hekate Liminal Rites: A Study of the rituals, magic and symbols of the torch-bearing Triple Goddess of the Crossroads – by Sorita d’Este and David Rankine

Hekate Soteira: A Study of Hekate’s Roles in the Chaldean Oracles and Related Literature by Sarah Iles Johnston

Curse Tablets and Binding Spells from the Ancient World by John G. Gager

The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation: Including the Demotic Spells by Hans Dieter Betz

Arcana Mundi: Magic and the Occult in the Greek and Roman Worlds: A Collection of Ancient Texts by Georg Luck

Source: http://www.inominandum.com/blog/a-tale-from-the-hekate-course-and-some-light-reading/

Any qabbalists with experience with da'ath? Thinking of exploring it to find out what is exactly going on that sphere.

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>>18313653
Cunt

>>18317435
Got a shiver down my spine just to tell you "you will never specify da'ath"
It's as equivalent as the outer sephira, tzimtzum, or the void

>>18317435
However, try some LSD. You might even get a look at the actual hidden light. It isn't white, it isn't a color, it's like crystal-y, makes patterns and surely comes from the stars.
I believe it's responsible the geometrical phenomena that happens on earth.
Animal symmetry, mushroom circles, pinecones, leaves, flowers, anything natural.

>>18317484
So would you say it is connected to the Unmanifest godhead?

What do you call yourselves and why? e.g. Shaman - because of entheogen use. This isn't rp shit tho senpai, real niggas only.

>>18317519
You could say everything is.

>>18317535
Well true the manifest godhead comes from the unmanifest, thus all things created come from the void.
so my question is, if da 'ath was once where Malkuth was once situated, then the 'fall' exposed a hole?
I read once that da 'ath may be a portal to a like catacomb, or mirrored view of the tree of life.
Why is so little written of it?

>>18317532
A dabbler. Titles could lead to unwanted ego, for myself atleast.

>>18317532
Both a shaman, because of shamanic trips performed using trance inducing drumming, and an adept aghori because of the practices i do.

HARA HARA MAHADEV!>>18317532

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>>18317548
It's called the Qlipoth, it's evil. Something like the Necronomonicon. (Not as a book but a concept) I'm sure the information collectively you're looking for is very arcane. That's why little is written on it. You will have to witness for yourself but asking questions is good.

The Qlipoth is very usable informatively through Wikipedia however.

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>>18317672
Or Dante's Inferno. (On the other side)
Delving into archetypes substantial to different putridity will manifest of that nature.
I just read how one of Plato's students believed God, humanity, and demigods/demons compare to a concept of triangles; God/Equilateral, Humans/Isosceles, Demons/Scalene.
If you're aware of Da'th and Kabbalism, I'm sure you know of sacred geometry.

>>18317532
a chaote or simply just an occultist
sometimes a gnostic or hermeticist when speaking with certain people

since the trump won though I kinda feel like meme magician is a nice title for the smugness of it

>>18317532
rootworker/hoodoo, maybe chaote at least philosophically if not in practice.

Im not initiated into any particular religion or practice but gravitate towards specific schools of low magic.

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>>18313552

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>>18317850

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>>18317850
>>18317854
she has no fucking clue what she's talking about and doing

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>>18317435
Choronzon

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Any of you guys ever curse someone and have it work? Share your stories.

I want some comfy stories because I just cursed someone but I won't be able to see if it works because the person in question lives out of town. I cursed I did a bloodline curse of bad health, bad dreams, bad luck, mistrusts and misfortune because they lied in court about my mother. She won the case and was too eager to wash her hands of them to counter-sue for legal fees.

>>18318648
You can't make that work with only solo effort. That's fictional. You would have to be practical with social equation. Malicious practice of any sort in connection with the person that they may or may not know about, but regardless feel torment in being receptive to malice.
However, this makes you receptive to malice.
But the fact that you already have the desire to invoke it, you are receptive to malice.

>>18318800
You don't know what you're talking about. I am powerful enough to do it and I know how to protect myself. There will be no rebound. I just wanted some comfy success stories not advice from a stranger who ASSUMES I know less than they do.

>>18314112
The first book I ever read on magick was Shamanism for dummies and Animal Speak by Ted Andrews. I've moved out of that sphere these days but I still draw on that knowledge unconsciously now and again so I recommend it as a beginner course on spirit animal meanings.

The best advice on how to supplement your knowledge after that is to learn about the animal in question via animal planet, discovery channel documentaries, youtube videos etc. Things like diet, behaviors, and habitats are good to know even if you're just working with the spiritual animal itself.

After that you should have an idea of what animals are trying to contact you, what they want from you or to show you, and what spirit animals you want to reach out to yourself and perhaps how you will be received by them.

>>18316725
Your religion is the green horse of the apocalypse. Not trying to be a dick. I just doubt you have ever heard it before. Google Green horse + islam

>>18317532
Sometimes I call myself a witch. Other times a shaman when I'm doing purely spiritual practices that aren't necessarily spells or magic that a witch could do.

I call myself God/Tao Itself at those times I transcend either label.

>>18318847
>Green horse + islam
A lot of my beliefs don't necessarily agree with modern Islam, I have just found Islamic practices work the best for me spiritually. And I don't really buy into the whole "Apocalypse" scenario of any religion, but after reading a bit about what you said it would be interesting, if true.

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Yeah, really credible source they cite here.

>>18318864
I very much believe in god and the apocalypse. I'm not gonna pressure you though. It is not given to me by God to care about your beliefs specifically. I was very interested when I found the green horse/islam connection though. It was the only horse unaccounted for in my studies.

>>18318881
That's not the first link.

>>18318888
Any theory worth it's salt can be found in more places than one, so I don't see why anything but the first link shouldn't be acceptable to read as well. It just gives me insight to the kinds of people that share this garbage.
But yeah, thanks for the concern. I very much believe in God as well.

>>18318914
You're a retard.

>>18313653
Sheeit

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>>18318919
Oh, now we're resulting to insults? I thought you had something interesting to show me, but turns out you aren't worth my time ^_^ Go back to talking about your beliefs so I can go back to exploring my own.

>>18318940
>resulting
Don't know how resorting got flipped into that, but hey, life goes on.

>>18318940
God himself would call you a retard. And he probably will at the end of days. Remember this day so you can be buttblasted when god calls you a retard.

>>18318978
Well, apparently he already did >>18318847
>I call myself God/Tao Itself at those times I transcend either label

I have never been uncivil in these threads before, and I have actually enjoyed my talks with Ape. So I'm done being baited by your memes. See you at the "end of days," brother.

>>18318806
Scientists are aware everything has a cause and effect.
But a pinecone falls in the forest, you didn't hear it or see it.
Do you know it fell?
Would you assume?

>>18319100
You're full of shit.

>>18319100
considering the falling of pinecones is how many trees in said forest reproduce, the fact that the forest continues to exist is evidence of pinecones falling regularly.

>>18319415
So it would make a difference you were never able to change in the first place without effort
>definitely not full of shit

I have some Freemason files I didn't see in your library. I downloaded them awhile ago from a Freemason site, I can't recall what the address was. All I remember is they were files that needed a user name and password to access, and this information was posted on TorChan awhile back.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/rc7wxicv1ofhs/Free%20Mason%20Shit

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Et9oN95hr1w

this is so fucking hilarious

>>18313552
Hi, I don't see any astrology section in the MEGA.
Can you recommend a good book on astrology for a beginnner?

>>18320419
is this what evocation/invocation is supposed to look like?

>>18320476
What were you expecting? genuinely asking.

>>18320478
something less cheesy or ridiculous, but then I honestly can't tell how would you go about picturing contacting a different entity or part of your subconscious in a less cringy way

i fucking don't know

Meme magick

>>18320485
They are forced on purpose. They are locks, so to say. You get trained to turn on your abilities, only when you perform the necessary ritual, so that they will not turn on by accident.
Imagine one of those Japanese live action series where to turn on their suits, some ridiculous gestures are performed to do so. Now you know why.

>>18317344
Awesome, thanks. I'll give these a look.

>>18317435
>what is exactly going on that sphere.
Nothing.

With a capital N.

>>18320544
I don't quite see a possibility of turning such abilities on by accident if this shit requires so much effort

>>18317532
I call myself Jennifer.

Labels and titles are meaningless if you give them to yourself.

>>18320569
point is, it doesnt require that much effort. But if you associate the effort with doing it, even if you are at a level where you can do it effortlessly, t wont happen randomly.

>>18320592
>i'm a girl tee hee

>btw im a girl ;)

every time

Please, can anyone answer
>>18320461
I am just looking for an /x/ approved astrology reference with no "mainstream" bullshit

>>18320618
>>18320609
okay, then witch.

That's not a title I took for myself, it was given to me, so I may wear it with pride.

>>18320660
T. fourteen year old girl who got a black cat for her birthday and calls it her "familiar"

>>18320718
>f a m

>>18320718
It's like you're writing the next anime I watch or something.

>>18317532
archmemegician

>>18317532
A chaote, though my official title is Minister.

>>18317532
The Memester of Pepeskelion.

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>>18317532
The Thelememeite

Is Kek an archon

>>18320923
Kek is a chthonic deity.

>>18320945

Could you elaborate?

I just recently come to terms that Kek is real and just trying to get more information.

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>>18314302

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>>18321057

Can anyone jump right in into working with the Goetia? Does require any previous experience?

>>18320923

Hara Hara Mahadev!

Kek is something like Shiva nataraja. In fact id go as far as to say every pantheon has an equivalent . Hes an enityt which is supposed to put in motion events which will end a universe/world if it becomes too fucked. Normally these deities would be triggered by other deities, but im guessing collective effort of many human beings can trigger those deities as well.

Essentially an equivalent of a panic atomic explosion button.

>>18320966
'cthonic' is basically a fancy word meaning 'of the underworld.'

Basically Kek is like a proto-Hecate; a dark god(dess) of night, death, and change.

>>18321066
It's recommended to have first had the K&CHGA; read the Sacred Magic of Abramelin for more info on this.

>>18313552
how do i get into magic?

>>18321092
Trump is Kalki

>>18321117
>night, death, change
>>18321092
>end a universe
Not at all. Kek is pretty neutral and represents pure chaos of darkness (not evil or anything) and is associated with the state of darkness right before the light comes in. If anything, Kek's appearance in these times is a harbinger for incoming light.

Kek is not a god of darkness. He is a dark deity that, by his pure presence, brings in and attracts the light. Good times are coming.

>>18321177

Hara Hara Mahadev!

Yep,thats what shiva nataraja and the other gods are too. they destroy what is to make space for new light.

>>18321124

He cant be, most of us here speak of gods, knowledge of sacrifices is still known. Kalki comes once all this is forgotten.

>>18321177
>Kek is pretty neutral and represents pure chaos of darkness (not evil or anything)
Nobody used the word "evil." This is an occult thread, we understand that darkness and death are not inherently evil.

>>18321177

your dubs

Kek is here

>>18321123
every time i ask this you niggers never respond, geez, just because you guys can change the fabric of reality and bend anything to your will doesn't mean you can snuff out people that ask for help.

>>18321123
Google "magick"

Go to a wiki link or any other website link

Read a bit

If you find any interesting term, google that, then read about it

Then once you find another cool concept, google that one as well. And then read about it

If you really dig something, google for books on that, then buy/acquire books and read them.

If, while reading about anything, you come upon more cool stuff, google and/or read books about it.

Tl;dr: how to start? You read as much as you can about literally everything.

Also, dubs for Kek.

Forgot to give a friendly bump to that thread 2 days ago, so here's the archived version:

Palo Mayombe & Selling of bones + Rootworking advice
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/18306600/
http://archive.is/3SDGe in case 4plebs goes down again

>>18321555
>>18321555

That's for linking, I love reading about Palo

>>18321555
>>18321578
Btw do you think this practitioner is legitimate?

https://palomayombepnw.blogspot.com/2014/12/nsala-malecun-malecun-nsala.html

>>18317532
chaote/discordian
high ecclesiarch of memetic information

>>18321123
liber null
goetia
meditation
read prometheus rising and cosmic trigger

>>18321578
>>18321597
I enjoy reading about it too because my family practices Candomblé and Umbanda, so it's nice to read about similar religions (I'm not a practitioner tho).

Oh, I don't know. I'm not Palochan and neither one of those rootworker anons.
Let's wait for their input.

>>18321597
Seems a little fishy.
Im trying to read some of it.
He says his initiation was "Afro-Carribean based".
From what I can tell, he's not a real Tata and he appears to be practicing a home brew Chaos/Goetia/Afro syncretism.
Im not sure why he would lie and say he is a Tata.
Most of his posts are Euro and Goetia heavy from what Ive seen so far, at least from outward appearance.
I couldnt read a lot of it super in depth.
I skimmed, and then made the decision it wasnt worth much of my time.
And the color pallete is pretty horrible.

>>18321895
Thanks for the reply. I thought his post about Clauneck was the most interesting. But he does seem really sketchy, I remember he was selling blood pacts with goetia spirits for $200

>>18315835
says who? you know how?

>>18320592
>Labels and titles are meaningless if you give them to yourself.
Only for people without self-knowledge. So you're right if you're talking about yourself.

>>18321123
Well what does magic look like to you? When you imagine yourself doing magic what do you do? There is no one-size-fits-all practice so answer this question and I can give you something you might like.

I minister to spirits.

>>18317435


Liber 777. Use all associations to make a ritual. Post results.

>>18321123
blueflukes psychonaut field manual
oven ready chaos

>all those dubs and 7s in particular
fucking kek is spreading and growing

>>18323066
>blueflukes psychonaut field manual
rly nigga

>>18323082
it's the best recommendation for a lazy faggot such as that anon who can't fucking bother using google or just checking MEGA and beginners folder

actually it's great overall because it gives you basics about ideas that you should later explorer further on your own

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"We do not agree with the viewpoint that the knower is (fundamentally) different from the object of knowledge. As against this viewpoint, we hold that whoever acts as the knower forms the body of that knowledge in the vessel of his own personality
The opposition seems to have crossed the limit of deftness in asserting the poitn again and again that on agreeing to the viewpoint that knowledgableness is existential, knowledge of everything would become common to all. In fact, knowingness of one never becomes precisely the same of anyone else.
What decentralization lies in holding knowingness as existential? Indeed, by holding this point of view, the flaw gets annulled. Its status is also not kindred to that of the blue (effulgent radiance of Rudra), etc. Knowingness, in fact, is that attribute by which the whole world becomes existential. Indeed, the whole knowableness becomes substantial on account of its inherence to existence.
You utter, as per practice in the world, that existence is derived from non-existence; inherence is derived from the unassociated, and the associated; the lats is derived as a particular via elimination of what is not eliminated; so is the case with whiteness making the black into white. Similar is the case of the moving, according movement to the stagnant. In the same way, objects of blue (etc.) being unknown enter into the class of the known by virtue of the entry of the attribute of knowingness to them"

Tantraloka 10:67-75

Ape, please give some input on building the body of light. Procedures for astral traveling, etc. Crowley don´t explain shit on this.

>>18313653
too risky to not do

>>18324308
The date of its posting is long past.
Its power, if any, has diminished.

>>18323887
Hara Hara Mahadev!

youve got the whole tntraloka in english?

>>18324359
All 37 chapters, just needs scanned.

Hey Ape, what are your thoughts on Aurobindo?

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Corpus Hermeticum http://www.gnosis.org/library/hermet.htm#CH
Hymns of Orpheus http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/hoo/
Chaldean Oracles http://gnosis.org/library/grs-mead/grsm_chaldean.htm
Iamblichus' Theurgia http://www.esotericarchives.com/oracle/iambl_th.htm
Eliphas Levi - Transcendental Magic,its Doctrine and Ritual, The History of Magic
https://archive.org/stream/transcendentalma00leviuoft/transcendentalma00leviuoft_djvu.txt
https://archive.org/stream/historyofmagicin00lv/historyofmagicin00lv_djvu.txt
Arthur Avalon - Kularnava Tantra, Mahanirvana Tantra
http://upload.vedpuran.net/Uploads/79944ArthurAvalonKularnavaTantraEng.pdf
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/maha/index.htm
Zosimos of Panopolis - Visions of Zosimos
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/zosimos.html

>>18324361
Jai Jai Maa!

I have a hindu boner rn, when are you planning to scan it?

>>18324422
Once I'm done reading it. There's literally nine books worth of this shit.

>>18324406
Already got most of that.
>Arthur Avalon
Have you got a lead on:
>"Kaulavali Nirnaya", Arthur Avalon
or
>Kalikapurana, tr B.N. Shastri. Sanskrit and English in two volumes

If all of this chaos magic was proven REAL these last days, why aren't we making hypersigil to make us have powers like dragon ball or something?

Even normies have that ticking inside to shout and become super saiyan or some shit like doing kamehamehas. This thing itself is already a meme.

This is just an example I hope you get my idea.

>>18324437
>Yes, it's the magick that worked, not the countless hours of propagandizing, campaigning, outreach, and canvasing of Trump voters (FOR FREE) which produced an electoral but not popular win well inside most aggregate polling's margins of error.

You wanna talk about tantra, or lemegeton, or, y'know, actual magick, I'm all ears.

>>18324437

Hara Hara Mahadev!

x will never be able to do memetics like pol has. We are too unorganized, most of us have conflicting goals, and their hypersigil of kek worked only out of pure chance, they didnt have the element of possible disbelief as they just did it for the fun of it. We would have pro aby planned the sigil, and then done it for makeing a sigil which doesnt work, you are supposed to forget the point of the sigil.

Pol is officially better at magick than us, tbqh.

>>18324453
So what do you mean you are supposed to forget the point of the sigil?

I'm downloading MEGA folder for chaos magic, not sure if its enough to understand it.

>>18324453
influencing global events with other people sounds fun, but I still prefer just doing magic in my little world
there's this intimate connection to all my routines and shit, you know what I mean senpai?

>>18324512

Hara Hara Mahadev!

yep i totally get it. I feel the same way. But in any case if /x/ would work together in an almost cult like fashion, we could make as much change as pol did with memetics. But thats not going to happen imho.

>>18324464
Basicly, you create a sigil with an intended purpose, you reacha point of extasis ( charging the sigil with said purpose) and then you forget what the sigil is for. The more you see it the more charged it is but if you remember its intended purpose it looses its power, so to speak. A great book about sigil magic is Frater U.D. Practical Sigil Magic. Idk if its in the MEGA

>>18324564
Do you think /pol/ actually "summoned" Kek the egyptian diety or created an individual separate spiritual entity, or is their influence more of a psychological, meme, propaganda type of magic, you know, not really paranormal?

>>18313552
Always been curious about something, Ape you can summon physical manifestations of your "spells"/"curses"/"faith" whatever?

>>18324574

Hara Hara Mahadev!

well, first of all, lets establish the fact that if you have to do something, the best way to do it is the quickest and least costly way. This can be applied to all goals. This can be applied to gods aswell.

I believe Kek was summoned by /Pol/ and part of what he does is done through psychological, meme propaganda type of magic, but part of what he does is paranormal. Take for example his image spreading as a free commercial for trump, nothing paranormal. But getting hillary sick etc, thats also his doing in my opinion.

I dont think he is a seperate createdentity as there is too much synchronicity going on. Part of this synchronicity may also be his doing, as signs to his followers.

sooo.. yeah. Pol awoke an egyptian deity. Id honestly like to see somone contact Kek in an evocation, as id count him as evocable at this point. we should get t known his true motive, his own goal. Kek wont be serveing /Pol/ forever, he has his own ideas as all entities do. And pol has absolutely no idea what theyre ucking with, they are just riding the wave.

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>>18324564
I was pondering on something then. Sigils are just imagery like a drawing or something? Can it be like gestures and so on? This makes sense in the history of magicians. Like making sigils with the hands or poses.

Also let me get this straight about the forgetting about the sigil. /pol/ never thinks that Pepe was created to make meme magic work, now a lot of people think that Kek was existing already and /pol/ helped Kek awake. Pepe was never about meme magic neither are people posting pepes to use it like an easy formula for magic. This is why GETs are so important because gets are a "sacrifice" which you try to post and you wait for RNG to work on your favor, win win if you GET, you lose if you singles.
I would like to understand specifically with meme magic of Pepe, where people are forgetting the sigil and making it work.

I would like to understand where pic related is connected with all of this.

Also I have the Frater U.D. - Practical Sigil Magic.pdf now that you mentioned.

>>18324604
>evoking kek
I'm surprised no one has yet when you speak about it!
I'd try myself, but I don't feel confident enough when it comes to entering and maintaining necessary gnosis.

>>18324683
Fuck off Kekites.

Azh'terah and Baal-Hermon, ok? Not Ku(c)k and Kauket. Praise Moloch.

>>18324683
I might do it one of these days. I posted on /pol/ about it. They should take the next step in magic desu. If all of them started doing evocations and asking kek of the same thing, they might work a thousand times more efficiently thn with just sigils. Infact they could use the charged sigils (LITERALLY rare pepes) as sacrifice.

>>18324677
Ive worked with both drawings, gestures and sounds. The idea with gestures and sounds is the same as with the drawn sigils discussed in frater uds book. First you crate the sigil that has visible meaning (or hearable) and then you morph it so its not clear, and then repeat it or stare at it untill you just loose the sense of what it is exactly. The idea behind is that when you forget the purpose of it it gets ejected into your subconcious, and when you see it more it subconciously charges, but once it falls into regular conciousness (when you remeber what it was for) it looses the charge.

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>>18324696
embrace the Kek senpai, he's like real life azatoth.

>>18324696

Of course you're a Hillary supporter.

So cute.

>>18324696
>some crowleycuck mad that his 6 gorillion TB library has nothing about the most recent and most powerful pop-deity
>mad that a bunch of alt-right underages with no clue nor experience about the occult managed to do the dankest "ritual" of the 21st century while he spent like 15 years doing some yoga crap

wew

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>>18324714

>>18324714
see
>>18324448

>>18324709
I see no intrinsic link between Shillary and Moloch or Baal.
>inb4 the rabbit's foot joke
>inb4 hilariously attributed performance art

>>18324714

Ironically through all his hatred of Christianity, most of his content is directly relatable to the easy to solve information.

Kek is part of the advanced solve.

Kek is an angel, Moloch is a demon.

If he had a clue about physics, he would be happy Kek won.

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>>18324714
roasted (shitposted) af

>>18320389
Nobody is interested in this?

>>18324736
funposted*

It is coming to fruition.

>>18324757
I'll probably insert it in the library.

>>18324400
I haven't read much by him but he seems to be kinda charlatan-y. Don't take my word for it, though.

>>18324728

Moloch is the pet of Gabriel.

Kindergarten.

The difference between an angel and demon, truly?

Careful selection of prey.

>>18324714

he has a llot of material on memetics. under chaos magic...

>>18324728
why do you dislike kek, thoth.

>>18318914
Truth speaks in many languages

>>18324797

His funposting is at merryposting levels.

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>>18313653

Immunity cat stays with you forever
Immunity cat catches all the blows
Immunity cat is always there, is always on time
Immunity cat hasn't failed me, and many others for years.
Trust in Immunity cat

>>18324400
bls respond DDD:

>>18325138
That is one cute cat.

Please /x/philes, let me meet him. All I want is to find that perfect Demon I know exists. He's powerful, looks cool and has no weaknesses. The Demon who won’t secretly think I’m a pitiful human, the Demon I can fight with (even if only possible after collecting Candelabrum) and spent time fighting and spreading destruction in the name of Chaos with. Someone who can reciprocate the love and hatred I put in, the Demon who I can make Prayer and Debilitate and can fight with me against everything in existence for causes even too high and complicated for me to comprehend. Please, just let me find this Demon. I’ll sacrifice my unholy virginity if that’s what it takes. Please, I just can’t take these low ranking heathens anymore.

>>18325179

Indeed. Its purrs strike d'aww in to the heart of evil.

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>>18323887

>>18325182

Go read some more Twilight, fgt.

>>18324448
You don't know what you're talking about. You didn't see the pepe in the secret videos, hillary with a frog in her throat, the irl triples, the pepes. You only thing that because you know less about what signs kek gave than we do. The reality you are responding to is less than the whole.

>>18324794
>Careful selection of prey.

I believe it has more to do with the neighborhood they live in and the name of their boss/landlord.

>>18325195
I don't need you.

>>18324453
Pol isn't better at magick. They just do it on a global scale more than us because they have the first step of any magic: desire.

>>18325212
you people can't possibly be serious, right? if you are, you people effectively turned a meme into group psychosis.

>>18325232
Silence, only the weak judge the strong.

>>18325264
narcisstic personality disorder looks good on you, faggot

>>18325190
>The Samarasa of Sahaja
Rather the point desu.

>>18325199
I saw all those things. I lurk the site broadly. I just think you guys have a delusion-tier conformation bias, and this is coming from a dude who summons demons for petty favors.

In any case I've been going through The Pyramid Texts for some Ogdoadic materials I can lift to experiment with; there are discrepancies with Utterance numbering through the years.

In any case I'm almost on the fifth book of Tantraloka, Ch. 14 and 15.

>>18320628
There is none. Information on astrology is annoyingly fragmented. Come back in two years, I think Greer is working on the subject. If he makes something like the monsters book, but for astrology, my scanner is ready.

Ape, here's something from the bibliography of a paper in the library, in case you want to put it up too.

(cited in David Luke - "The Science of magic - A parapsychological model...")

"The Correlation of the Gradient of Shannon Entropy and Anomalous Cognition"

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.448.4383&rep=rep1&type=pdf

>>18325348
Institute seems a touch flimsy mate.
I'll browse through it anyhow.

>>18325366

Just sharing it in case, not actually vouching for it :)

>>18325400
No I appreciate it.

>>18313552
Think you can use http://techemporium.vashid.us/docs/ for your work?

>>18325407

Actually the bibliography I really want to go through is the biography from "Mind Powers - How to Use and Control Your Unlimited Potential" by Christian H. Godefroy.

Some stuff is not much to my taste, and the title is decidedly sensationalistic, but the "history of hypnosis" introduction and a couple other things look like decent serious work (or at least work taken seriously and done decently) so I'm curious what do his sources say

>>18325419
I was gonna say no but Musical Gematria looks interesting at the very least.

>>18325432
You might also want to add Magical Tarot of the Golden Dawn in either the Tarot or Golden Dawn sections (I don't think you have that book).

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Who here as experience the ecstasy of power over spirits?

I read that the Lam, Vam, Ram, etc. mantras for the chakras are mundane crap and that the real mantras which actually work aren't publicly available.

Is this true? How the fuck am I supposed to make spiritual progress if the only gurus who can transit this information are in some bumfuck village in northern india?

>>18325438
I keep thinking I added that but I guess I haven't.

>>18325463
It's partially true. More like they have peculiar usage. There's enough out there to find your way.

The seed mantras for Kashmiri Saivism are in Paratrishikavivirana, and read alongside Kaulajnananirnaya, reveals secret meanings to those with eyes to pierce the twilight language.

Abhinavagupta comments that you can brute force your way in by constructing your own mantras in accordance with lineal doctrines. Moreover, there's enough interspersed between Tantraloka and Paratrishikavivirana to do the exoteric form of worship and get a sense of mantra installation.

Hevajra Tantra does much the same.

There are some basic leads in the AMOoKoS manual.

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>>18325463
>How the fuck am I supposed to make spiritual progress if the only gurus who can transit this information are in some bumfuck village in northern india?
There are fucking thousands of real gurus. You probably have one in your town/city. They are just really picky. Most gurus you can look up on google are not really enlightened. It was the same in jesus' time where the spiritual elite are frauds without real knowledge.

Yes, Lam, Vam, Ram are just words unless you actually know how to pronounce them with the right tone and tension in your body. There really isn't anything you can do about that but pick another path to spiritual power if that's what you're trying to get out of your practice.

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>>18325485
>There really isn't anything you can do about that but pick another path to spiritual power if that's what you're trying to get out of your practice.
Horseshit. Self initiation can be achieved. Information on pronunciation can be found. Redacted lineal mantras have begun to crop up. Read, research, and ask questions.

>>18325478
>>18325485
How do people find gurus in the 21st century anyway? And I'm not talking about some yoga teacher who spent a few summers in India.

I want the real, authentic 200 year old poo-skin mahasiddha who can blast me with shaktipat.

>>18313653
no dubs, but still, meme magics are strong

praise kek :3

>>18325499
Tibetan diaspora is a godsend for that. I've got a dream yoga master just up the road.

>>18325499
West Coast. Or India.

>>18325506
Yeah if you're into Vajrayana, it's easy, every city of respectable population has a Dharma Center.

emoji spells

reset the clock. 1 year and six months. and 166 days.

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>>18325493
Self-initiation is impossible. All gurus from time beginningless were initiated by a guru.

>>18325499
The guru chooses you. Anyone telling you differently is truly not a guru. Gurus come in all races and can be male or female. The live anywhere in the world now since christ turned the wheel. But you can't find one unless they lead you to them. Give up.

>>18325544
You have some sources you're going to cite to back any of that smugposting up? I already feel the magic words incoming.

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>>18325511
>West Coast. Or India.

>>18325547
My source is I know it because I am.

>>18325552
So you admit having siddhis?

>>18325559
I am.

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>>18325544
>Self-initiation is impossible
Tantraloka 16:195 as an ordeal of consciousness.
Tantraloka 4:62:
>The purpose of self initiation is to mobilize the essense of the mantra which is being practiced. Mobilization of the essence of the mantra results in activation of self knowledge. It has been observed that if one is unable to get a teacher capable of activating the mantra, by praying to Candika Devi (Chinnamasta, Raktadevi) regularly, one becomes an Acarya within a month, a Sadhaka in a fortnight. A Putraka in a week, and within four days less by quarter of a day, Samayi. In this process of initiation, Raktadevi is supposed to perform the ceremony Herself as the provision of the Shastras. This method is to be adopted in case of unavailibility of a Guru.

I trust Abhinava WAAAAaaaay fucking more than you.

>>18325572
How the fuck do I get siddhis? Tell me like I'm a retard.

>>18325572
You shouldn't trust that more than me. I am the Tao. I'm certain self-initiation is impossible. All knowledge comes from the Tao and you can't become the Tao unless the Tao personally chooses to show you how.

>>18325549
Yeah, Mike D's and his Anuttara Trika Kula students are all based out of Cali.

In any case:
>>18325572
https://youtu.be/OmNtb3KUYM4

>>18325581
Practice.

>>18325582
>retard confirmed

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>>18325582
>mummy's face when she's sick as fuck of your NEET bullshit and screeching for tendies

>>18325583
>Practice.
Specifically, what? I already do pranayama and asanas. Mantras?

>>18325670
That plus the higher limbs of Yoga. Don't expect like DBZ, world shattering fireworks.

I've got a book on the psychological interpretation of Siddhis somewhere in the library. Moreover, keep in mind that sorcerous occult powers (Mentioned in Kaulajnananirnaya and described in Sarada Tilaka Tantram) do qualify.

After having meditated for a long time and other spiritual practices, I took LSD (not first time) and in my maximum moment of the trip completely "broke through" and could finally understand "it".

As I understood "it" which is to say, everything, I became a "fifth-dimensional being" during gnosis sessions in the rest of the trip. I became fifth-dimensional by focusing back into the revelations during the break-through moment while on gnosis (which is extremely easy to achieve in LSD).

So my main question lies on the revelation itself during the breakthrough. I genuinely felt like it was something external weaving it into my thoughts. I can't specify how because that was one of the "messages" (its also extremely complicated and "weird")

And then I woke up the next day and, as usual, my mind was completely back to its skeptical way. Obviously I could read what I wrote but I quickly dispelled that as just trip-induced and obviously fake. During the trip, everything felt extremely real and True, but that's with any trip. Everything feels so real and magical but then you wake up and realize it was trip-induced very easily. I haven't done LSD since.

But then I've been reading a lot more on spirituality and general magick and have only started but I'm really getting into it, mostly since I can have gnosis so easily. Reading so much has now led me to really believe in the occult. Spirits, entities, gods, etc. from a chaos magick point of view, etc. The whole stuff.

Which leads me to now doubt if it might just have actually been real? Could some entity have actually communicated this to me? And for the skeptic side, could I have "enlightened" myself in a moment of very deep gnosis? Perhaps I'll find out next time I do LSD, though I am a bit scared about "digging too deep". Hopefully this was indeed a one-trip breakthrough with subsequent trips retaining the revelation.

Any help/opinion on all this? I'd like some external point of view

>>18325582

>Tao
>Personally

FUCK OFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6rRNANSgI

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>>18325681

>understood it, fifth dimensional, external weaving in

Okay, sure, why not: people believe even weirder shit any day of the week

> just trip-induced and obviously fake.
>Which leads me to now doubt if it might just have actually been real?

...why do these have to be contradictory?

1) Brains make meaning. Funny chemical enter the brain. Funny chemical fucks with the brain with its own set of rules. Funny chemical carries meaning.

2) Fifth-dimensional beings are by definition not physical as we understand the term, for all we know mundane events could be coherent with some such metaphysically elevated events.

3) What gives? Your interpretation of the fact only has as much worth as you can actually milk out of it.

4) If you were on acid power-up and actually broke through a higher level of understanding and reality, no wonder it seems unbeliavable when back on earth

Saint Philip K. Dick got struck by a pink laser beam after his dentist dosed him up, which besides the revelation proper taught him about some birth defect his son had, or something like that.

>>18325478
Dear Ape From Hoth, I went to get the PDF for the Paratrishikavivirana and it said in the preface that this was Abhinavagupta talking to advanced disciples. Which of his works would be a good starting point for someone that hasn't read him at all? PS, I practice yoga, and I've read quite a bit about Hinduism, I just don't know anything about Kashmir Shaivism or Abhinavagupta.

>>18325722
Thank you for your post. This is exactly what I needed.

As a chaos magician (I hate the stigma behind the name these years) I can definitely see how I could use something like that in magick. So far I haven't told anyone irl and don't plan to do so, ever and even destroyed evidence. It's so extreme and completely out of the ordinary no one would think I was sane.

All the time before I really started going into magick/meditation I was 100% skeptical about it, but now here it is.

A big part of the revelation was having "choosen" LSD as the drug to "commune" with the fifth-dimensional me. (it's not that LSD is the magical drug, but it's the one the "external influence" "chose")

So now all it boils down to is another LSD trip. Perhaps my newfound magick abilities might now prevent me from any external influence? (I plan on banishing with some stuff I have proven to work)

Skeptic scenario: maybe I'll write something really cool sometime

Magick/occult scenario: I have access to the fifth-dimensional spirits/entities/gods/God

Psychonautics scenario: I have access to the fifth dimension, which is fucking amazing like holy FUCK dude

Buddhist: I might just have enlightened myself, need further proof but possibility? Need for meditation to transfer into reality and then just die and ascend.

I've thought about this shit so much I sometimes thought that the thoughts were just too far from reality. Good to know they're not there yet.

>>18325681
> I genuinely felt like it was something external weaving it into my thoughts.
It was. A malevolent being who knows all the right peace and love psychic buzzwords fooled you.

>>18325758

Well, I don't have any further information available.

Don't go crazy, harness it, don't get corrupted - whatever that means for you, if on top of that you can draw some real-life lessons; you're golden.

All scenarios sound cool.

Do any of you have any experience with the 10 Tibetan Breaths? Are they authentic or should I not bother with them?

>all those impossible to pronounce yoga techniques, labels, variants and shit

DUDE just meditate, enter gnosis and do magic LMAO

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>>18326153

>>18326161
I strongly disagree with what you implied with your picture

>>18317532
I know not what to call myself. I am unsure whether I possess a true name. When I feel Catholic I am sure Jesus will tell me when he admits me to Heaven. When I feel gnostic I am sure Sophia will whisper it in my ear while we make sweet love. Until those days come to past, I know only that I know nothing.

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>>18326153
>be Kekist
>I only need to shitpost with frogs and get dubs
>mfw faggots here do this
Lmao, stay a low-leveled magickian. Praise Kek.

>>18325544
Self initiation is impossible, but takeing up the first guru, Shiva, as your guru is a possibility. In fact the very first gurus did exactly this, reeived knowledge from Shiva himself. This path is harder, and slower, but nonetheless it is possible to achieve the same outcomes.

If each guru had to have a guru, youd never find the first guru.

Im reading the Kybalion, by the three initiates, but it confuses me that through all the book, it constantly quotes another book also called the Kybalion. Is there a previous, lost version of it, or something?
Also it constantly references the High and the Minor Laws, but it doesnt state which are them

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Is this good?

What does SSOTBME mean anyway?

>>18326830
>"Insofar as an aspirant remains contemplating exclusively on Shiva, he appears as Shiva Himself. Until the end of that contemplation, he partakes in oneness with Shiva's body."

>>18326865
Because Kybalion's weak as fuck. I should really reconsidering presenting it at all.

>>18326875
Dunno, havn't read it.
Probably dude's motto, and if it's that long he's probably coming from a Golden Dawn tradition of lifting entire Biblical verses.

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>>18326883
>Golden Dawn tradition of lifting entire Biblical verses.

This - silly scardipantses.
Good morning.

>>18326911
Howdy. Got some Afro-Carib stuff for the next update:
>Sacred Leaves of Candomble: African Magic, Medicine, and Religion in Brazil
>The Magic of Brazil: Practice and Prohibition in the Early Colonial Period,

I love how /r/occult keeps praising Kybalion and IIH and recommending them for beginners

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>>18326917
Thank you.
Would you like to have some more Montenegra(o) for your library? I think I got my copy of Garden of Blood and Bone from you.
I have Spirits Rituals and Spells by Montenegra(o) (cant be bothered to look up the spelling at the moment)
I rethought my earlier assumption.. if you want to descend from the great above and meddle in our low magick kicks and eat some dirt with us for a bit, you are more than welcome.
I admit, my intentions are less than honorable. I just want to see how dirty you are willing to get.

>>18326943
I'll take whatever.

I should probably scan Dark Shamans: Kanaima and the Poetics of a Violent Death.

>>18326936
That's why this thread is here.

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can someone explain

i mean i drew it but i was doing aesthetic things

>>18326950
>aesthetic things
>magick things
Pick both.

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>>18326944
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0bFJTU0x12Jek9RNmtldlk4MEE/view?usp=drivesdk

Let me know if the sharing settings need tweaked.
Its hanging out in my Drive.

>>18326950
Ganesh -what obstacles were on your mind.

Ganesh is roughly equivalent to Lucero.Just an interesting tidbit.

Why is he getting ready to lift up his skirt?
He wants to show you something....
Did you see it, when he showed you? ;)

>>18318847
Intrigued by those books - links?

I started doing breathing meditation recently at the recommendation of a friend whose therapist got her to start doing it a few years ago. As far as I know it's an entirely secular thing, at least in that all the overtly religious, spiritual, and/or occult elements have been removed.

It consists of breathing in (at the belly first, and chest second if at all) to a count of four, then out to a count of four, focusing on one's breathing only, then, whenever any thoughts, emotions, or other distractions arise, recognizing them as what they are and then calmly letting them go (without getting frustrated) and returning one's attention to breathing.

This was the most recent step in a process of self-improvement and healing I've been working at for several months. So far, I've made huge advances in my ability to focus and in my ability to handle both physical and emotional discomfort, and I've stopped loathing myself.

My questions:
>While healing itself obviously has spiritual significance, is there any benefit beyond this that I would get from doing some specific Buddhist or other meditation?
>Is there any reason not to take a secular form of meditation and reincorporate my own religious elements?
>Does the count (4) matter? For example, if 5 is an important symbol in the religious tradition I follow, is there any reason not to do a 5-count instead (and speed up the count slightly if the length of breathing needs to stay the same)?

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The only two religious experiences I've had in my adult life were as follows:

>About four months ago after reading the Principia Discordia for a laugh, I said a prayer to Eris on a whim, asking her to help me improve my self-esteem. About two hours later, I had an epiphany and I've been on an upward trajectory ever since.

>For the hell of it, I listened to some YouTube meditation track intended to open your third eye, and, with my eyes closed, I literally saw a pink Ganesha, to the point that I felt almost like my eyes are open and he was in front of me, and then after that I lay down, and while still fully aware of what was going on around me in my room, had a vision of what I believe is some kind of higher self or a version of me that is fully healed from all the trauma and unhealthy coping strategies and so on that I've experienced.

Any advice on what to do now?

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>>18327033
>Is there any reason not to take a secular form of meditation and reincorporate my own religious elements?
Nope, no issues.
Everything is permitted.

>For example, if 5 is an important symbol in the religious tradition I follow...
5 Pillars?
Faith, Prayers, Alms, Fasting, Pilgramage?
Just curious.
If so, you should read some Rumi.
"Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about."

Its okay if Im wrong.
Nothing is perfect. :)

ITT:
kids with too much free time in their hands

>>18327060
t. failure who couldn't achieve anything and gave up like a pussy he is

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>>18326971

Do you know what this means?

Occult

>>18327060
>ITT: Mostly namefagging professionals with degrees

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>>18327075
Ape, my dude.
Been studying Chaos Magik for a while, although I need something more directly beneficial. Got any good source material that I can compose a Library out of?

>>18327050
Actually, the 5 fingers of Eris, 5 senses, and 5 days and seasons of the Discordian calendar.

But hey, the Five Pillars of Islam seem good as well, and I like that quote from Rumi. Any specific book or text I should read?

>>18326971
I keep spiraling around that conclusion in newer and more exciting ways.

>>18327103
Check out Abhinavagupta's book on aesthetics, as well as Schiller's.

>>18327093
Not really. A lot of Chaos was in textfiles pdfs with online only distribution. What I have is about as much as I bothered to search for, read, and use.

>>18327101
Don't forget the five faces of Shiva.

>>18327105
Already have, that's what sparked it. It's what has been coming out of the search for aesthesis that is so interesting. As the process though which we come to understand ourselves, it's a wild ride, but reversing the flow into the creative act is something else entirely.

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>>18327101
http://www.thesufi.com/sufi_ebooks.html

They are all free, Sufi flavored ebooks.
As you can see, I highly recommend the Rumi.
Its delicious.

>>18326830
>If each guru had to have a guru, youd never find the first guru.

Because there is no first guru. Time never began. That is a secret that I know from the Tao and am telling you. It's ancient wisdom.

>Shiva first guru
See you really shouldn't talk about things that you only have an idea of like they are true. You're just deluding yourself and others. You should investigate things further by looking within yourself. Then you will know the wrong (what you said) from the right (what I said).

>>18327024
Don't have any links. I actually bought them, sorry. Maybe you can find them yourself if not you can find them in barnes and nobles.

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>>18326660
Where will you be when kek is subsumed by a higher cosmic entity and you are without power while everyone who diligently meditate knows him by name? Down shit creek trying to paddle back to civilization.

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>>18326865
I think your version sucks. Mine didn't do that.

>>18326875
Good for me to poop on.

The difference between me and you SQUARES is that all of my knowledge comes from direct revelation from the Tao and so it is pure and perfect. You get your knowledge from other men and so its contaminated and only deludes you further.

>>18327390
Please go shitpost on >>>/trash/

>>18326875
Sex Secrets of the Black Magicians Exposed. I prefer Thundersqueak.

>>18327396
>Dukes
EEeeeeehhhh.

Daily reminder that you have to train your body to achieve balance.
>>>/fit/

>>18327420
Daily reminder that both mind must be trained as well as body.
>>>/anywherebutshitpostchan/

>>18327409
Is that a good sound or a bad sound?

Do you have Skinner's Techniques of ____ Magic books?

>>18327433
Mostly bad.

Nope but I've got a few other Skinner titles.

>>18326660
if kek was real, you would have gotten quads right there
>if dubs, kek isn't real
>kekists btfo

>>18327463
>sorry I meant dubs this time

>>18327394
I'm not shitposting. I'm Taoposting. Need at least one person who can see past their own nose when it comes to the paranormal in here. You're an idiot who has all the book learning but none of the cosmic street smarts. You can recommend books written by men but you don't know the real from the fake, the metaphysic hype from the actual. You try to cloud that over by given ever more obscure and hard-to-pronounce recommendations and hogging all the attention so people think this is your thread instead a thread that happens to be on /x/ and belongs to the magical anon's.

Your ego, hubris, and ignorance are why I've taken up a name to balance you out and be a source for people who are have almost broken through the control systems of the world and are soon to be ready to glimpse something real and pure and follow it home. This isn't your thread and you can't tell me where to go, Ape of Charlatanry.

>>18327469
>third time's the charm

>>18327463
If singles kek don't real.
Check my digit.

>>18327420
No you don't. All the gurus I've met have been skinny as a pole.

>>18327471
it's time to take your pills, your family is getting worried

>>18327471
Cool, while you decry me and pass of absolute garbage information you've yanked from the recesses of your colon I'll be getting the next update ready.

>>18327476
>you don't need physical fitness
proof you're full of shit. please stop posting anytime

>>18327479
You're library is shit and you're a garbage person.

>>18327471
thank you for tripfagging, makes it easier to filter you f a m

>>18327497
Psych. Still here.

>>18327496
>baseless insults
Much enlightened.
Very attainment.
Such wise.
Wow.

>>18327525
They're not baseless. I'm telling you the truth. You suck.

t. The Tao

>>18327503
See, now what was the point of that?
Yes, we see you.
You are acknowledged.
Now, what did you gain?
Nothing. You have made yourself into a fool.
Now, sit down. You're using up all the air.

>>18327530
You have nothing to give me. It's what I can give you. I can give you eternal life of peace and tranquility.

>>18327536
>>18325619

>>18327530
New thread incoming.

>>18327536
Someone should curb stomp you lmao

hello i am convinced through individual experiences that reality is pretty perceptual. practiced chaos magick.
now i know that backfires could be pretty boring. so i did rest 4-5
months.
Anyways the thing that i want to ask, what to do?
it really shake me that fully comprehending that there is no truth?
So what can you advice? Meditation right?

>>18327716
btw i must say, eve 5 months after still ridicilous amount of synchrionities.
actually i understand that i need mental discipline. so meditation. i need to learn to love meditation. just doing.

>>18327771
also i really need to learn psychic shielding. any advice?
thanks in advance.

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>>18327716
You're wrong. There is truth. On person sees a circle from one perspective, another person sees a rectangle from another perspective and both are certain they are right and fight about it. You got trapped in that conversation and came to the conclusion that there is no truth, it is all perceptive. Retard. It's possible to see that the truth is its a cylinder. That is truth.

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>>18327808
Spot on.

>>18327471

Hara Hara Mahadev!

When you see the buddha, kill him.
Kys, m8.

>>18328105
>A man said this thing and it confirmed my sins so I'm gonna accept and spread it
Kys.

>>18313653
If no dubs then it's fake

>>18327808
i am not arguing my experiences or not looking another belief to trade mine.
but thanks anyway.